WTC_What Was In Building 7 in kaj se je dejansko dogajalo 9/11 -

Vse vase teorije in dokaze smo ze razlozili in podali kontra primer. Vse.

Imaš dva dokaza. Takih dveh dokazov v linkih ni in ne bo.

Odprt um ima tisti, ki je pripravljen sprejeti drugacno mnenje in razlago. Mi smo pripravljeni sprejeti drugacno razlago, ki bo podprta z ustreznimi dokazi.

A mixture of thermite and sulfur produces thermate which lowers the melting point of the iron

PacificBlue je 3. nov 2010 ob 10:16 izjavil:

Odprt um ima tisti, ki je pripravljen sprejeti drugacno mnenje in razlago. Mi smo pripravljeni sprejeti drugacno razlago, ki bo podprta z ustreznimi dokazi.

For instance...na prejsni strani sem dal link, kjer je z poskusom dokazano, da luknje v kovinskih tramovih niso nastale zaradi žvepla iz gibs plošč, kot je to trdil NIST. Izvor žvepla je pač nekje drugje in začuda:

A mixture of thermite and sulfur produces thermate which lowers the melting point of the iron

In BW, tvoj argument?

Sem prebral cel tekst. Nikjer ni nobenega izracuna sil in nobene statike.

The total mass of the upper part is as follows:

Steel wall columns - 1 500 tons - 4.5 %
Steel core columns - 0 900 tons - 2.7%
Steel floor trusses - 3 000 tons - 9.1%
Concrete floors - 23 000 tons - 69.7%
Windows and misc. - 4 600 tons - 13.9%
Total - 33 000 tons - 100%

Note that less than 8% of the mass is steel in the supporting columns and that as much as 70% is concrete. If this mass filled the total volume of the building above the initiation zone (190.000 m3), the uniform density would be 0.18 ton/m3 or the density of cotton! You could say that a big bale of cotton (mass above) rested on the structure below!

No zdej pa še povej koliko je težek poln 707 in koliko na pol prazen 767... ker zgodbice o polnih 767 ne držijo.

CoolBits je 3. nov 2010 ob 12:15 izjavil:

Hja, računaj.

The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) found a three page white paper that mentioned another aircraft impact analysis, involving impact of a jet at 600 mph (970 km/h), was indeed considered, but the original documentation of the study was lost when Port Authority offices were destroyed in the collapse of the World Trade Center.

CoolBits je 3. nov 2010 ob 12:32 izjavil:

Ni pritiskalo, ampak je padlo zgornjih ~50 nadstropji. Velika razlika, ki je nekateri ne morejo dojet.

Ni mogoče, ker zgornjih 50 takrat ni več obstajalo... so bli v prahu

Aston evo zate:

The structural engineers on the project also considered the possibility that an aircraft could crash into the building. In July 1945, a B-25 bomber that was lost in the fog had crashed into the 79th floor of the Empire State Building. A year later, another airplane nearly crashed into the 40 Wall Street building, and there was another near-miss at the Empire State Building.[60] In designing the World Trade Center, Leslie Robertson considered the scenario of the impact of a jet airliner, the Boeing 707, which might be lost in the fog, seeking to land at JFK or at Newark airports.[61] The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) found a three page white paper that mentioned another aircraft impact analysis, involving impact of a jet at 600 mph (970 km/h), was indeed considered, but the original documentation of the study was lost when Port Authority offices were destroyed in the collapse of the World Trade Center.

Construction of the World Trade Center @ Wikipedia

imagodei: Problem je gibalna količina česa... praha? Vrhnjega dela takrat ni več, da bi pritiskal. No edino če bi rad povedal, da je vrhnji del trši od spodnjega? :)

CoolBits je 3. nov 2010 ob 12:49 izjavil:

imagodei: Kje je bila teža, ko je bil stolp na polovico podrt? A je še vsa teža pritiskala na spodnji del al jo je najmanj polovica že padla na strani? Kaj te bo bolj bolelo... 100 kil sena al 100kil železa? :)

blueFish: To sem linkal Aston-u, ker je hotel uradni vir, sam je pa linkal neke leve... sem pa nekje drugje zasledil, da se je računalo poln boeing 707... sam zdej ne najdem.