Kdo vodi svet in podobne zarote

No, potem pa res ni problema ;)
Mimogrede, RTV je tudi objavil to novico če se ne motim :)

Ampak ti ne verjameš televiziji, zato sem dal link na nekaj v kar verjameš. I think...

Odličen pimer fakerije :)

Zakaj pa ni zadosten, če je tako grdo očiten? Odličen primer je recimo Koprfild. Ker ni tako grdo očiten.

haha PaX_MaN, zdej pa že smešne govoriš XD
dej, ne vem, poglej si mal posnetke od tistega dne pa potem govori o mrtvih pričah

Hočeš reči, da so videi, v katerih se živi ljudje mečejo iz ravnokar zadete stolpnice, "odličen primer fakerije"?

Naj ponovim katere ljudi sem naštel al boš pogledal nazaj da si osvežiš spomin? Če prav vidim nism omenil nobenih skakalcev

Jaz sploh ne vem zakaj debatiramo z takšnimi,ki nočejo poslušat in nerazumem njih zakaj sodelujejo v tej temi?

Kaj pa mislite o FEMA campih,ki jih gradijo USA?

Do your research right:

No hard evidence
Surprised by the ease in which this FBI spokesman made such an astonishing statement, I asked, “How this was possible?” Tomb continued, “Bin Laden has not been formally charged in connection to 9/11.” I asked, “How does that work?” Tomb continued, “The FBI gathers evidence. Once evidence is gathered, it is turned over to the Department of Justice. The Department of Justice than decides whether it has enough evidence to present to a federal grand jury. In the case of the 1998 United States Embassies being bombed, Bin Laden has been formally indicted and charged by a grand jury. He has not been formally indicted and charged in connection with 9/11 because the FBI has no hard evidence connected Bin Laden to 9/11.”

Do your fuckin' research right:

MURDER OF U.S. NATIONALS OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES; CONSPIRACY TO MURDER U.S. NATIONALS OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES; ATTACK ON A FEDERAL FACILITY RESULTING IN DEATH

[...]

CAUTION

Usama Bin Laden is wanted in connection with the August 7, 1998, bombings of the United States Embassies in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and Nairobi, Kenya. These attacks killed over 200 people. In addition, Bin Laden is a suspect in other terrorist attacks throughout the world.

Plinovod je bil ena prvih skrbi novega "demokratskega" predsednika Afganistana.

Ja. Od leta 1990. Aja, takrat sploh še ni bil prezident. Kako grdo od Američanov!

očitno se vsaj nekje strinjava, američani lepo zalivajo tulipane.

Do your friggin' research right.
Tulipan != mak. No, priznam, imajo neke skupne prednike, tam, par milijonov let nazaj, nekaj takega kot črnci in belci.

Malo logične interpretacije besed...saj ni tako težko

O čem pa misliš, da pišem že celo jebeno temo?!

Do your fuckin' research right:
MURDER OF U.S. NATIONALS OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES; CONSPIRACY TO MURDER U.S. NATIONALS OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES; ATTACK ON A FEDERAL FACILITY RESULTING IN DEATH

[...]

CAUTION

Usama Bin Laden is wanted in connection with the August 7, 1998, bombings of the United States Embassies in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and Nairobi, Kenya. These attacks killed over 200 people. In addition, Bin Laden is a suspect in other terrorist attacks throughout the world.

Money connections between Bush Republicans and Osama bin Laden go way back and the political and economic connections have remained unbroken for 20 years. And what appears to be a "new" alliance with Pakistan is merely a new manifestation of a decades-long partnership in the heroin trade.

Conveniently ignored in all of the press coverage since the tragic events of Sept. 11 is the fact that on May 17 Secretary of State Colin Powell announced a gift of $43 million to the Taliban as a purported reward for its eradication of Afghanistan's opium crop this February. That, in effect, made the U.S. the Taliban's largest financial benefactor according to syndicated columnist Robert Scheer writing in The Los Angeles times on May 22.


We should revisit the history of BCCI, a bank used by the legendary Palestinian terrorist known as Abu Nidal. BCCI was closely tied to American and Pakistan intelligence. Its clients included the Afghan rebels, and the brother of Osama bin Laden, Salem. Salem bin Laden named Houston investment broker James R. Bath as his business representative in Texas, right after George W. Bush father became CIA director in 1976. By 1977, Bath invested $50,000 into junior first business, Arbusto Energy, while Osama bin Laden would soon become a CIA asset. George W. Bush FBI director Robert Mueller was part of the Justice Department questionable investigation of BCCI. (On BCCI, the bin Ladens, and the Bushes, see the books, The Outlaw Bank, A Full Service Bank, and Fortunate Son)." Further details of the business and financial relationships between the Bush and bin Laden family are found in Peter Brewton's 1992 book The Mafia, CIA and George Bush. BCCI, incidentally, was founded by a Pakistani.

Vir:KLIK

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Dokazov je dovolj Big whale ampak,če jih ti ne vidiš pa to ni moj problem.
Pač živi v svojem svetu in ne maži te teme z svojimi posti,ker so oftopic;))


Fema camps tko kot si rekel pryobeast.
Torej tisti ljudje,ki se ne bodo strinjali z novo vladajočo politiko bodo odstranjeni.
Ena možnost je tudi,da zaradi chemtrailov ker v njih so lahko tudi kakšni virusi in potem dost ljudi zboli in nekam jih je treba dat.

PaX_MaN s tabo je precej težko komunicirat, ker se spravljaš na nepomembne detajle, ali rečem tulipani, mak, rožice...me bo vsak z malo dobre volje razumel...sorry osebno ne rad pišem dobesedno kar hočem povedat v upanju da ti bo vseeno neslo.

Pri tako resni temi, kot je bil 9.11., hočem, da pišeš resno.

Kar se "cevovodov" tiče, se zgleda spet strinjava, talibani so bili v napoto za realizacijo let-eh. Z demokracijo pa se take ovire rešijo z dvema podpisoma.
BBC
Kako v napoto? V citiranem članku piše:

The project was abandoned in 1998 when a consortium led by US energy company Unocal withdrew from the project over fears of being seen to support Afghanistan's then Taliban government.

Problem so bili Američani. Ti so se umaknili.

Z malo logične interpretacije besed sem mislil:
-Vse priče = vse žive priče, ki so lahko pričale (neboš verjel kar nekaj jih je prišlo ven iz stolpnic v tisti dobri uri), ne pa da se potem čudiš, da kako lahko mrtvi pričajo....

No, tako povej, pa bo vse v redu.

Kar se pa tiče tvojega citata, bi te prosil če mi lahko po domače razložiš, kje ti vidiš 11. september?

Nikoli nisem rekel, da ga je on insceniral. Na strani lepo piše, da ga za 9.11 nikoli niso iskali. Vsaj ne FBIajovci. Napisal sem le, da je "Osama bojda povedal zakaj". Če bi malo logično pomislil in v zakup vzel zgornje citate (tisto, da morajo dokaze predložit poroti, sodniku in podobno), bi prišel do tega:

On September 16, 2001, Osama bin Laden issued the following statement via al Jazeera in reference to the 9/11 attacks: "I stress that I have not carried out this act, which appears to have been carried out by individuals with their own motivation."

Torej je povedal, zakaj.

Debata je sicer šla nekako takole:
Paxman:

No, pa mi tako povej, zakaj bi sploh *teroristi* izvedli tak napad?


Sej je Osama bojda povedal zakaj. Gugl it.

Potem kpkp:

Sej je Osama bojda povedal zakaj. Gugl it.


Nad osamo ni nobene obtožnice povezane z 11.9.....google it, al da ti pomagam, probaj z "fbi most wanted"

Potem jaz:

Do your research right:

The alleged terrorists on this list have been indicted by sitting Federal Grand Juries in various jurisdictions in the United States for the crimes reflected on their wanted posters. Evidence was gathered and presented to the Grand Juries, which led to their being charged. The indictments currently listed on the posters allow them to be arrested and brought to justice.

kpkp potrdi:

Do your research right:

No hard evidence
Surprised by the ease in which this FBI spokesman made such an astonishing statement, I asked, “How this was possible?” Tomb continued, “Bin Laden has not been formally charged in connection to 9/11.” I asked, “How does that work?” Tomb continued, “The FBI gathers evidence. Once evidence is gathered, it is turned over to the Department of Justice. The Department of Justice than decides whether it has enough evidence to present to a federal grand jury. In the case of the 1998 United States Embassies being bombed, Bin Laden has been formally indicted and charged by a grand jury. He has not been formally indicted and charged in connection with 9/11 because the FBI has no hard evidence connected Bin Laden to 9/11.”

Potem moj odgovor na to:

Do your fuckin' research right:

MURDER OF U.S. NATIONALS OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES; CONSPIRACY TO MURDER U.S. NATIONALS OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES; ATTACK ON A FEDERAL FACILITY RESULTING IN DEATH

[...]

CAUTION

Usama Bin Laden is wanted in connection with the August 7, 1998, bombings of the United States Embassies in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and Nairobi, Kenya. These attacks killed over 200 people. In addition, Bin Laden is a suspect in other terrorist attacks throughout the world.

Si slišal za tistega Lisjaka, vohuna na Projektu Manhattan?

Misliš Georga Kovala?

To je tema o tem, "kdo dejansko vodi svet".

Offtopici bodo brisani.

Si slišal za tistega Lisjaka, vohuna na Projektu Manhattan?

Misliš Georga Kovala?

Ne, Klausa Fuchsa.
Ampak, ja, ni (bil) edini.

Pri tako resni temi, kot je bil 9.11., hočem, da pišeš resno.

Pišem resno ne pa dobesedno.

Kako v napoto? V citiranem članku piše:

So bili talibani vzrok za nepostavitev cevovoda, torej so bili v napoto.

O.K. lepo da se še nekje strinjamo, torej kaj je bil povod za napad na Afganistan, sum da se tam skriva oseba katero sumijo, da je morda povezana z dogodki 11.sep.2001
In potem isto z Irakom, sumimo osumljenca, da se sumljivo obnaša in ima sumljive snovi, pa dejmo zravnat z zemljo še eno državo.

@BigWhale
Da začnemo najprej pri manj "zarotnih" zadevah, ali meniš da bi moral nekdo odgovarjati za stvari, ki so se v NYC dogajale po 11.9.
V mislih imam na stotine, bol verjetno tisoče, ljudi kateri imajo hude dihalne motnje zaradi azbestnega (in kdo ve še česa) prahu, ki se je sprostil ob rušenju stolpnic. Kot predvidevam da veš so odgovorni v državi trdili, da ni vzroka za skrb in da je vse varno.

@Ziga Dolhar
Nekje je treba začeti, od lokalnih oblasti, do državnih se počasi pride do globalnih... Kar streljat neka imena bi to temo spremenilo v še večje smetišče.
Iz malega dvoma lahko zraste velik...

Pa glede tistega, ko je Osama bojda rekel, da je on odgovoren za 11.9. se itak ve da je ponaredek, saj na posnetku ni enaka oseba kot na ostalih. Da bo mi pa kdo rekel, da v Pentagon letalo treščilo se pa naj malo zamisli pa pogleda posnetke. Kje so trupla, kje je letalo? Ker to ne more kar tako izginit. Obstaja še pa tudi polno drugih dejstev, da je to vse ena velika farsa in vse skupaj nastavljeno, da bi lahko ljudje velik denar potegnili iz tega vsega.

Glede Bush-a imam dve teoriji, vi mi povejte katera je bolj verjetna.

1. Bush ni tako neumen kot zgleda...
2. Bush je le lutka...

Še skupinska fotka..George Bush je taprvi levo od ure:

Hvala Ziga.

Še skupinska fotka..George Bush je taprvi levo od ure:
Lejga lejga, drugi iz desne je pa nas mali Jure ! Do kje je ta pob prilezel .. [>:D]

//Sarc. off

Ni bil to George Herbert Walker Bush in ne Bush jr. ?

A za pentagon je to piksna od katere niti motor ne ostane cel... ko se gre pa za wtc je pa to masa katera poruši celo megastolpnico... zanimivo vendar se nekaj ne ujema

A za pentagon je to piksna od katere niti motor ne ostane cel... ko se gre pa za wtc je pa to masa katera poruši celo megastolpnico... zanimivo vendar se nekaj ne ujema

Ja, tvoja predpostavka je napačna.

WTC se ni zrušil zaradi samega trka, nenazadnje je stala še nekaj minut po trko. Požar, ki ga je povzročilo letalo, je segrel jeklo, segreto jeklo pa ima dosti slabšo integriteto, tako da se je zrušilo.

Pa o tem smo na tem forumu že debatirali.

edit: Hehe me je Daedalus že prehitu :)

CoolBits - preberi si tole - The "Deep Mystery" of Melted Steel. Pa vsaj za ta čas malo pozabi na moonhoaxe, pol pa premisli.

A eutectic compound is a mixture of two or more substances that melts at the lowest temperature of any mixture of its components. Blacksmiths took advantage of this property by welding over fires of sulfur-rich charcoal, which lowers the melting point of iron. In the World Trade Center fire, the presence of oxygen, sulfur and heat caused iron oxide and iron sulfide to form at the surface of structural steel members. This liquid slag corroded through intergranular channels into the body of the metal, causing severe erosion and a loss of structural integrity.

"The important questions," says Biederman, "are how much sulfur do you need, and where did it come from? The answer could be as simple--and this is scary- as acid rain."

Ok bom prebral... ti pa si poglej ta video simulacije v finite elements glede temperature in vzdržljivosti.



Pač če vam je lažje verjet da je bil ogenj kriv... je meni prav.
Jaz ne verjamem, da se je zaradi ognja podrlo pač... in tud nevem zakaj se je... ko bo kakšna bolj pametna razlaga bom verjel.

So what. V ta istem članku tudi piše, da je bil član Kerry,... Pač Forum 21.

Točno imaš prav. Samo ni hecno, da ima ta forum toliko predsedniških kandidatov, od obeh Bushev, Kerrya, pa še marskido bi se našel. Taka neznana organizacija pa toliko vpliva.

Uh, Bush in Kerry sta si stala nasproti na volitvah pred petimi leti.

Točno imaš prav. Samo ni hecno, da ima ta forum toliko predsedniških kandidatov, od obeh Bushev, Kerrya, pa še marskido bi se našel. Taka neznana organizacija pa toliko vpliva.

A ni čudno, da je tolko precednikov - pravnikov?

A ni čudno, da jih je tolk iz Virginie?

A ni čudno, da so ama vsi moški?

Ja Žiga.

Ma ni čudno,da so oz še zasedajo najpomembnejše položaje raznih multinacionalk in političnih položajev v državi in izven nje. Potem pa ko izveš, da ti moški grejo skozi inacitivni obred, kjer morajo ležati nagi v krsti, in izpovedati svoje najbolj divje fantazije. In takšni moški potem zasedajo pomembne položaje in odločajo o usodi ljudi. Pa jebemtiš še lobanjo in kosti imajo za zaščitni znak. Weird man...

Kdo ga je pa postavil na to mesto?

Hehe, ti misliš da je Obama tako nedolžen kot izgleda...Obama je kabbalist, le poglej kakšne veze ima z vsemi mogočimi duhovniki. Pa on je ja The CHange. Ljudje ga imajo radi, zaupajo mu da bo naredil dobre stvari. Samo ti ljudje so tricky..Dont trust them at all.

Exactly, nemogoče je, da bo on nrdiw neki druzga zdj, saj mndarvndar ne vodi proedsednik države, predsednik je speaker, v ozadju se dogaja pravo. ...well, Imo :)

Science isn't everything

En razlog zakaj ne? Saj WTC-hoaxerji hočejo pokazati, da je bila zarota ravno s science - seveda s svojo različico science. Letalo ne more sesuti WTC, jeklo se pri taki temperaturi ne topi bla bla.