50let laži in norčevanja!!!odgovor je tukaj"v vesolju nismo sami

Ajin,

Ja kaj si pa videl? Haluciniral, verjemi!

Pa jih malo pokomentiraj kaj si videl tvoje mišlenje o slikah. Bi lahko kaj dokazale ali je spet oddaljena packa, ki bi lahko bila karkoli (avijon, helikopter, ptič, žoga, satelit. komet).

slikan je srebrn disk, dokaj kvalitetna slika, nisem se je lotil da bi jo preveril , ker zgleda res realna in verjamem da je prava! Sem videl druge in ta napram drugih je res drugacna, pa se taksna mavrica je okol, avra.

kakšna se ti zdi slika v primerjavi s to boljša ali slabša in pa ali je slika slikana podnevi ali ponoči?

Ojej ramses324 ne spuščaj se na osebni nivo sploh če neveš s kom debatiraš. Tvoje posmehovanje pa tudi kaže kako preziraš ostale sogovornike in se imaš za nekaj več. Jst sem s sabo stvari razščistil! Pa napačnemu govoriš o veri takšni in drugačni.

Ti si izbral vero v sistem. To pomeni, da te je vzgoja prepričala, da ni nič tam gor.

Vzgoja mene ni nikoli prepričala, da tam gori ni nič! Niti nisem dubu občutka, da bi me želela.
Pa kašno vero v sistem naj bi jst po tvoje izbral. Mogoče vero v skepticizem? To je tudi edina "vera", ki bi lahko bila v mojem živlenju prisotna.

Vir neskončne energije. heheh.....mogoče se ti zdijo moji koncepti nelogični, hehehe....si se vprašal zakaj??

Brez skrbi da sem se vprašu zakaj, tako kot za vsako stvar. Nažalost tvoji koncepti slonijo na stvareh, ki nimajo trdne podlage. To lahko sklepam po tvojih linkih, ki si jih limal v to temo.

Naj pokomentiram tale link, ker se mi pač slika ne zdi posneta v realnosti.

http://www.kao.re.kr/space/SETI/ufo/image/ufo.jpg

Lastnik omenjene strani je William E Windsor
nickname: AstroMan in Windsorrex
e-mail: windsorrex@yahoo.com
rojen v Tennessee trenutno živi v New York-u samsko življenje
EDWARDS, WILLIAM E. WINDSOR NY-4-19-469

njegov najljubši film in knjiga sta presenetljivo Star Wars in Hitchhikers guide to the Galaxy.

Človek je med drugim izjavil:

I invented and provided the "katusha" rocket artillery sytem to the Russians in the battle of the Caucus. No hard feelings I hope.
It was war and a long time ago and I had to make sure the Panzers didn,t get to the oil fields or the Shermans in Europe wouldn.t have stood a chance.
I,m Anglo-Saxon.German. So it was a painful episode for me.World War 11.
Germans against Germans.

I also helped Professor Einstein and Doctor Oppenheimer to develop the Atomic Bomb for the Americans,my mother country.I was born in America and my mother was an American.My father,English.The abdicated King of England,King Edward V111.Windsor.I regard myself as American.

I didn,t do much in the Atomic Bomb area..Just gave them the critical mass The Manhatten Project resulted from that My only direct involvement after that was to observe the detonation of the bomb over Hiroshima on behalf of the USMC

I was responsible for NASA from the beginning.Resigned from it in 1947 as the only way of pursuading Herr Otto von Braun to build rockets for the USA in Los Alamos.He was quite a difficult person to talk to,Herr Von Braun.
His daughter and I got along o.k but he and I did not.

I,ve done a lot of things in my life,not all of them destructive.
Doctor Oppenheimer was pursuaded to come over to us more for our developments in nucleur Fussion than Fission We have the means to produce food from household electricity but no one seems to be interested any more.

I,m not saying these things to "grandstand."Just by way of introduction.
The reason I,m writing is to say that I have a lot of things to contribute yet to the world,and my country and my people.and I want to speak to someone who can help me a little bit to do so.Someone who can cut through red tape,confirm facts,things like that.An assistant

The German people are my people.Things have been difficult and we,ve suffered,but we have a way of vindicating ourselves By positive contribution to the welfare of the people of the world.Let me tell you how.

Thanks steve. I don.t blame you for any confusion.I,m struggling with a bit of it myself.Not only the preliminary navigating with this forum but also generally.
Must be old age I guess.
Anyway whatever. I felt the need to say something beneficial to anyone who cares and I guess it,s you right now steve.
Somehow though I find myself at a loss for words.Stage fright.Finally,someone to talk to.I thought this Internet was another stone wall.I helped to implement it you know.Internet,NASA and USASEF.The last is still to be displayed.
I can say a lot and I really feel that I should, without making a complete ass of myself,but how should I approach it? There.s so much to say over a really long time period.
Right now I,m organising to get the record material together,the factual base for my narrative,but time,money and energy militate against me.Nevertheless
I will persist if you allow me.
I have to rely substantially on my memory at this stage and that,ts unsatisfactory.That.s why I adopted a "who I am" approach.An introduction. Hoping that people who are still alive and remember me can help out.Perhaps if I may continue that approach for a while and someone can check out the story as we go along. if they can.
Firstly,my parents. King Edward V111 and "Mrs Wallis Simpson" as the media referred to my mother.
We were stranded at the chateaux at cherbourg after dunkirk.My father,my mother,our butler,jeeves,and I.
I was in Paris the day that the nazis arrived.
If you can get the book "Chronicals of the 2oth Century",turn to the photo of the little boy wearing the luftwaffe officers hat.It appeared in most of the newspapers of the world at the time.That little kid was me.
If you can do that for me first we can proceed from there A factual springboard from which I can develop the narrative of events,preceding,during,and after that time.
Thanks again for your reply steve and kind regards to you all.

No response yet, so I gather your,e having as much difficulty with the record retrieving as I am.No matter.Memories it is then.
I spent a lot of time thinking about just how to continue.It,s virtually impossible as far as I can see,to get all the records about my involvement.My story is scattered amongst the records of England,America,Russia,France,Germany,Israel and who knows where else.
I think a biographical approach is far beyond my means to accomplish,and frankly,pointless.
Why am I writing? That,s really the point
Well,I guess it,s probably a need to explain why I did it.A cleansing of the spirit.Let me ramble on for a while and perhaps it will become clearer to us both.
I remember the tank battle of the Caucus.Blurry,like a scratched and worn photograph left on a battlefield.
Stalin had placed me in command of the Katusha system.The system that I had invented and offered,at my own personal expense,to the Russians to meet the impending advance of panzas to the oilfields.I made it clear that I did not support the communists,that my contribution was to help the Russian people,being the Grand nephew of the late Csar nicholas 11.My Great Grand Uncle.
The soviets had nothing to stop the advance so they accepted the Katusha.
Stalin being the cynic that he was put me in command.A little kid,in USMC uniform.A little toy captain.
The Russians made fun of me but obeyed because Stalin had ordered them to.
I cant remember the bearings.I was on a high point,with telescopic binoculars.About 6" diameter,standing on an ammunition box because they couldnt make the tripod any lower.
The river and the woods were on my right.The panzers hiding in the woods.
There were Russian scouts bringing me continual reports of movements.
The situation was simple.The tanks would emerge from the woods and advance in a unobstructed course along the steppes towards the oilfields and win the war.The Russians had nothing to stop them
My job was simple also.I had the Katusha system Untested.
Basically it consisted of three semi trailers each with a square box from which a number of rockets were launched simultaneously,impacting on the ground in a square mile pattern.
I can,t remember all the technical details,but think of it as fly swatters.Anything caught in that square mile impact area would be destroyed.
The panzer commanders were cautious.Feints were made from the river on the russian side,and eventually,they advanced from a number of points and joined in one mighty thrust.
We had the advantage of surprise and speed.There were only three trailers
The rockets gave us the advantage of range.The rockets far outranged the artillery support and the tank armanents.
Once the advance had been established definitely,one trailer moved into position ahead of the column and destroyed the artillery units.The lead Panzer continued to advance.A Panzer against a semi trailer.The trailer waited.The Panzer fired off a round to scare the truck away.The round fell short a long long way from doing any damage.Then the Katusha opened fire.Woooosh.The lead tank and a few behind stopped in their tracks.The tanks following behind hesitated for awhile,observed no aircraft,bypassed the destroyed tanks and continued to advance and got smashed also, Then other tanks tried to break out and the other two Katushas moved in.One on either side of the column
Well from then on it was artistic.Tanks tried to hide,they tried to bluff,they tried every thing,but those fly swatters kept crushing them untill finally they turned and tried to make their way back to the river and presumably the comparative safety of the woods across the river.A vain effort.Non of them made it.The Russians were relentless in their pursuit and finally the only tank that made it back to and into the river was smashed in a combined salvo from all three Katushas.
Even though we won.I didn,t feel good about it.I respected the efforts of the commanders to save themselves even though they realised by now that they were well and truly doomed.The Russians were completely besides themselves with glee.
That was the only major tank battle that I was involved in Katusha v Panzer.
Even though they were my enemy at that time and even though I won,I salute them for their bravery.German against Germans
I,m on a mission now.My final one probably and I guess that,s probably why I felt the need to relate that episode of my life. My salute to the fallen.
My mission is to fulfill the prophecies of Revelation 18:20/21.The Judgement Day.The machine to accomplish that was left in the care of the USMC at Kirtland airforce base in New Mexico in 1944, and the time has cometo deploy it.
It,s not easy because I,ve become shrouded with so much secrecy I cant, get to it! but God willing that will become possible soon.
Churchill used to call me his "secret weopon".Secret allright.Mr X !Mr No body!
Thats all that I,ve become,and frankly I like it that way.I can walk down any street.It is nice though that somethings are revealed.
I look forward to encountering the real enemy-Babylon, and dealing with it as God wills.I look forward to the Judgement Day and to the Ressurectin and to
meeting once again those that God has judged worthy to live agin. I believe that many of those I fought will be there.
It was interesting the comment of one of the members about the pictures of those tank crew. " They look just like kids"
They were- and so was I. Salute.
Pray for me,pray for us all.
" Surely shall one say 'In the Lord have I righteousness and strength, Even unto him shall all men come and those who are incensed against him shall be ashamed." Isaiah.KJV. Thus it is.I say so. In the Lord have I righteousness and strength. Mon Dieu est mon Droit, God Dave The King.
William E.Windsor. SAXE-COBURG-GOTHA. Rex.

Imam še kar nekaj njegovih zablod če komu tole nebo dovolj.

Človeku manjka par koleščkov v glavi in sorry zame to pol nemore biti kredibilni link. Upam, da sedaj razumeš zakaj moj skepticizem. In zakaj pravim, da limaš veliko nekredibilnih linkov.

Lp,
Alec999

Popolnoma razumem Alec999, seveda, zato moraš prebrat moje poste v celoti!

Citiram post od katerega si kopiral link!!! To piše direktno pod linkom!

Internet ima dosti PONARJENIH SLIK, ampak jih skušajo izloćat, zato glej samo objektivne raziskave, ne pa vse slike na interentu!!! Jaz vem , katere so prave, zato se ne oziram na strani.

Hotel povedat; Opozoril sem na stran, katero si v tem momentu citiral in podal kot nekredibilno! To stran nisem NITI pogledal, ampak sem postal sliko, katero sem prepoznal, preko "google search image"!

PS; Vse mečeš v isti koš! Misliš, da branje drugih komentarjev ni vplivalo na tvojo objektivnost?

Sem videl ja.....KAKŠNE POKAJO!!

Edit: Nisi videl še nič! Pogej linke čarovnic in nevem kakšnih sekt, češ da jih obiskujejo NLP-ji.
Zato raje niti ne berem takih strani. 2x menda sem pa res, dal kakšen levi link, ampak zgodba v njem je bila preverjena, oz. zabeležena.

Recimo, poglej si omenjeno stran, katero "označim" za "nekredibilno" in preberi članek!!

Nebom skakal v zrak, ker sem te tudi z namenom vprašal. Mogoče, sem kdaj pretiraval, v toku teme, ampak nič zlonamernega.

Kar se tiče George Adamskija, je primer izmišljen, se popolnoma strinjam, ampak slike, ki jih je uporabil izhajajo iz Nemških arhivov 2.svet vojne. (Iste slike, so bile uporabljene, v drugem primeru, ki ni šel v javnost in v katerem je človek hotel ostati anonimen- kasneje ugotovljeni Nemški znanstvenik) Dokaz zakaj je bil Adamski obsojen HOAX-er. Sedaj, skeptiki, ko ugotovijo, takoj napadejo in seveda tudi "slike", pa čeprav so bile nekatere avtentične. On je primer zlorabil za svojo slavo, ki je bila grajena na resnici. Ampak ustvaril pa je zgodbice, ki so se iskazale laži. Moraš vedet, da so to visoko varovani projekti, za katere se ljudje nočejo izpostavljat).

Samo to vem, da je Adamski pisal knjige na temo in ustvarjal profit. Veš, da take z veseljem pod prste gledajo in na vsak način diskreditirajo(skeptiki in ufologi). Še posebno po tem, ko je naredil celo zgodbo iz enih slik. Kot še nekaj akterjev podobnih scen!

PS; Poglej si primer, ki sem ga podal zgoraj. V toku teme, sem dokumentiral nekatere dogodke. Ker so dogodki subjekt razprave, prav tako skeptikov in ufologov, dobimo potem believerje in skeptike med nami. Ampak ti so samo posledica raziskav, ne pa stebri na katere se znanost upira.(To so v večini vojaški projekti. Zato skeptiki skrbijo za diskreditacijo ljudi, dokazov, in vsega ostalega materiala) In ti lahko potrdim glede na vse, da skeptiki napadajo z razlogom(razlog ni resnica). Menda, sem 1 primer omenil, kateri opisuje kakšni so zaključki skeptika v razmerju z 20 pričami.(slikami, odtisi, radijacijami, posnetki,..). To je primer Rendlesham forest.

Tip bo zdaj nekoliko poniknil, potem bo pa čez čas trdil naprimer:

Rekel sem, da je slika avtentična, nič nisem rekel da je UFO avtentičen. Kam vaju to postavi Gondolf in Alec? Premislita sama! HAHAHAHA ...

... itd ... itd ...

Pa še eno kilo smeškotov bo prilepil, preklet frik!

Ramzi verjamem ti, da slika JE prava in da ni predelan kovinski lestenec! Verjamem tudi, da ostali verjamejo v aliene, vendar jih je strah priznati vso to čisto resnico!

Upam, da neboš res poniknil, ker si me do zdaj že skoraj popolnoma razsvetlil (bolj kot Zois slovence) in nebi želel biti prikrajšan za informacije, KI SO EDINE RESNIČNE!

Vi friki, ki ne verjamete ramzesu, pa lahko kdaj vzamete kako strokovno gradivo v roke (ne vem kako se reče zbirki, vendar je nekako največje skrivnosti našega časa - UFO), tam tudi piše o tem, da nas obiskujejo. Kaj mislite od kod si avtorji dobili informacije? Sigurno si jih niso na suho izmislili.

Ko bodo alieni prišli med nas in nam začeli gnar talat, bote vi dobli en moker ku... od njih, in to je edina resnica!

Sej Thomas, kot ti in tvoj "Exorcizem"!

Maš preveč osebnosti, da bi lahko sam kaj pametnega sestavil?!(In pol ti omenjaš kredibilnost!)

Kaj vas matra branje postov ali ignoranca? Ponavadi se temu pravi Egoizem! Samo pojme ste začeli mešat!

Poslano: 18.12.2005 03:58:32
Kar se tiče George Adamskija, je primer izmišljen, se popolnoma strinjam, ampak slike, ki jih je uporabil izhajajo iz Nemških arhivov 2.svet vojne. (Iste slike, so bile uporabljene, v drugem primeru, ki ni šel v javnost in v katerem je človek hotel ostati anonimen- kasneje ugotovljeni Nemški znanstvenik) Dokaz zakaj je bil Adamski obsojen HOAX-er. Sedaj, skeptiki, ko ugotovijo, takoj napadejo in seveda tudi "slike", pa čeprav so bile nekatere avtentične. On je primer zlorabil za svojo slavo, ki je bila grajena na resnici. Ampak ustvaril pa je zgodbice, ki so se iskazale laži. Moraš vedet, da so to visoko varovani projekti, za katere se ljudje nočejo izpostavljat).

Jaz sem povedal svoje! Sedaj pa v modelčke, kar naprej verjamite! Sej je boljše kot pa nič!

PS: Aja Thomas, si pozabill dodat še ostalo večino uporabnikov, ki so že povedali svoje in šli, ker so opazili vaš odnos do ljudi. Kaj imaš preveč prostega časa?

Iste slike, so bile uporabljene, v drugem primeru, ki ni šel v javnost in v katerem je človek hotel ostati anonimen- kasneje ugotovljeni Nemški znanstvenik)

kaj sedaj - je šlo v jasnost ali ne

prvič rečeš: v drugem primeru, ki ni šel v javnost
drugič pa trdiš: da veš zanj (za projekt in za znanstvenika)

tole se malo izključuje med seboj

ali pa spet samo ti ramzi veš nekaj kar je top skrivnost in zanjo ne ve nihče
če izvzamemo aliene in tebe ramzi ter sedaj nas ki si nas razvetčlil in nam zaupal skrivnost ki je ni vedel nihče na svetu do sedaj

hvala ramzi

Torej si dal ali nisi dal pristnih slik zgoraj?

> Jaz sem! OStali so modelčki!

KAJ TO POMENI???

Lahko še enkrat postaš pristno forografijo pristnega vozila alienov?

Oziroma jasno poveš, katera je tista?

Oziroma poveš, da je ni?

(Za BAR je druga tema, ne svinjaj tele še z off topic!)

Veselim se zate ajin.

Ne mešaj pojmov "Thomas" slike so vse avtentične, ampak tisto kar je na njih je vprašljivo.

Edina slika iz te serije, ki sem jo postal je.

PS; Kar trdim že od začetka seveda. Samo ti nimaš "ščink" za kaj takega. Bi se lahko reklo, da sem precej siguren v svoje besede. Glede na to da uporabljam samo en NICK NAME...

.Intellectual honesty is the only tool required.. Kaj je to omenjeno, kakšna HONESTY?

Pomeni, da so vse slike UFOtov v tem topicu pristne? Vsaj tiste, ki si jih dal ti?

Se pravi, nekaj takih in nekaj takih slik si postal.

Katera je pristna? Katera je pristna fotografija pristne vesoljske ladje alienov?

Samo še enkrat jo zlinkaj, da ne bo dvoma.

Sicer spremljam to temo od začetka. Kolikor jo sploh lahko. Pa se mi poraja vprašanje?

Koliko dragocenega časa je že požrla folku tule gor? Vi ste čist nori.

Bravo, kateri njegov kolega pa si?

Ps; ne se obremenjevat z mojo starostjo! se vidimo potem fantje, nimam časa za take otročarije, kot jih izvajate na internetu! to lahko dela vsak, ne pozabi tega. "mati"!

samo nekaj mi odgovori!

koliko je takih(multiplih osebnosti) kot je thomas; na slo-techu?

pa sem ti povedal vse, in ne delaj se, da nisem nič rekel, ampak pričakujem konkreten odgovor!

Če je Slotech živel doslej samo za link na avtentični UFO dokument, potem je več kot upravičil svoj obstoj! Že s tem!

Samo link na nesporen UFO dokument nam daj Ramzes, pa ne se sekirat zaradi izgubljenih duš, kot sem jest pa "moji kloni"! Magari če si ga že dal, tokrat ga podaj nedvoumno, da se ne bomo več begali!

Pokaži torej tisto sliko, ki prikazuje nekaj alienskega, pa boš v mojih očeh postal najpomembnejši človek, kar jih živi!

Brez heca.

JAz sem videl sliko NLPja HAHa

To paje desinformacija! Dobro jutro!

Sedaj pa pomisli, kaj pomeni "top secret" in kako to obdržiš!

Nekako treba zakrit prave dokaze nejc!

Tako, da so beliverji(hoaxerji) in skeptiki(hoaxerji)!

Prava informacija pa je vse okoli tebe, samo poiskat jo moraš! Toje " Mikekemble. Com/misc/grail. Html sang real!"!
ampak ne jemlji vse dobesedno! Kot praviš ti!

zato, nehaj se spraševat, in raje spoznaj sebe (človeka), pol boš spoznaval življenje v vesolju!
to je moje sporočilo; v temi!

Ps:nekaj je deklasificiranega! In to zlorabljajo na vse načine!

Ok, ajde, and never come back.

Ok Nejc, dobro da le non-believerje, ker za Ramzesa, takole po postih sodeč, bi rekel da je zjutraj še znosen ampak se verjetno potem kmalu zadane. Sploh tile zadnji posti so bili narejeni pod vplivom enega fajn "heavy fuel". Tako da ga ne pumpat še z vesoljskim pivom.