50let laži in norčevanja!!!odgovor je tukaj"v vesolju nismo sami

ramses324, ti odgovarjaš na vprašanja z vprašanji. Izmikaš se vsakemu vprašanju z nekimi filmi in dokumentarci. Pošiljaš nas da pišemo tem stranem ... kaj pa si sam do zdaj nam razkril?

Nič, dobesedno nič. Bodi raje odkrit do sebe in do nas, ter nam dokončno pokaže tvoje slike. Pokaži nam kaj imaš. Če imaš zares dobre slike in ne takih meglenih kot jih daješ že od začetka, se zna zgodit da ti bomo verjeli. Takoj ko bomo to videli (vsaj jaz), se ti bomo opravičili in verjeli da smo živeli v lažeh in prevarah. Do takrat ne slišiš od mene N od NLP-jev.

nasvidenje

Hehe .. ramzes ujel še hunterja na svoje limanice. A je edini, ne berem skoz?

Eden mojih vohunov, ki jih imam porazpredene po terenu, mi je sporočil, da je Ašterkomanda Alienov poslala tri agente provokatorje v svet, da bi z zameglevanjem in navajanje idiotskih primerov ljudi prepričali, da Ašterkomanda Alienov (AA) - v resnici ne obstaja!

Preden je umrl, zastreljen od standardnih hyperblasterjev, ki jih alieni rutinsko uporabljajo, mi je zaupal ime enega agenta provokatorja. Skozi hropenje se mi zdi, da sem razbral "rhamzes .." nekej takega.

Ramzes je torej provokator, ki bi nam rad prikazal, da alienov ni? Da so pravljica?

Oh, me, oh my ...

misliti da je Zemlja edini naseljen planet ni enako ne verjeti teorijam, da nas naši cimri v vesolju obiskujejo, padajo na naš planet in tajno sodelujejo z vladnimi organizacijami (pretežno ZDA seveda)

Preberte si malo kakšne so uradne razlage! In kar se tiče hunter01, ima popolnoma prav, da ste totalno otročji. Tukaj ni stvar meni verjet ali ne. Že sto krat sem povedal, da če si hoče kdo dokazat, si dokaže vsak sam. Jaz vam nimam kaj. Samo molo logičnega razmišljanja vam rabi, pa pridete do rezultatov. Ne pa slepe trditve, totalno brezpredmetne. Marsikdo je sam ugotovil, brez moje razlage, in brez vaših odgovorov. Odgovoril sem na vsa vprašanja in to še v večji meri kot ste hoteli, nazaj pa dobil totalno nesmiselne odgovore brez kakršnega koli argumenta. Zato kdo se izmika tukaj? Včasih ste še slabši kot, da bi govoril steni.
Zato pa vam ne dajem pod nos mojih slik, ker menim, da sem vam dal še preveč, in vsak normalen človek bi to že zdavnaj razumel!! Prej sem dal zelo lepo primerjavo s srednjim vekom, kar je dandanes ista situacija. Ste kot ovce, pa brez zamere!

LP

Za zdej ful raskira!!! A ne razumes ti tega?

BRIEFING DOCUMENT: OPERATION MAJESTIC 12
PREPARED FOR PRESIDENT-ELECT DWIGHT D. EISENHOWER: (EYES ONLY)
18 NOVEMEBR, 1952


WARNING: This is a TOP SECRET - EYES ONLY document containing
compartmentalized information essential to the national security of
the United States. EYES ONLY ACCESS to the material herin is strictly
limited to those possessing Majestic-12 clearance level. Reproduction
in any form or the taking of written or mechanically transcribed notes
is strictly forbidden.

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SUBJECT: OPERATION MAJESTIC-12 PRELIMINAR BRIEFING FOR PRESIDENT-ELECT
EISENHOWER

DOCUMENT PREPARED 18 NOVEMBER, 1952.

BRIEFING OFFICER: ADM. ROSCOE H. HILLENKOETTER (MJ-1)

NOTE: This document has been prepared as a preliminary briefing only.
It should be regarded as introductory to a full operations briefing
intended to follow.

* * * * * *

OPERATION MAJESTIC-12 is a TOP SECRET Research and
Development/Intelligence operation responsible directly and only to
the President of the United States. Operations of the project are
carried out under control of the Majestic-12 (Majic-12) Group which
was established by special classified executive order of President
Truman on 24 September, 1947, upon recommendation by Dr. Vannevar Bush
and Secretary James Forrestal. (See Attachment "A".) Members of the
majestic-12 Group were designated as follows:

Adm. Roscoe H. Hillenkoetter
Dr. Vannevar Bush
Secy. James V. Forrestal
Gen. Nathan F. Twining
Gen. Hoyt S. Vandenberg
Dr. Detlev Bronk
Dr. Jerome Hunsaker
Mr. Sidney W. Souers
Mr. Gordon Gray
Dr. Donald Menzel
Gen. Robert M. Montague
Dr. Lloyd V. Berkner

The death of Secretary Forrestal on 22 May, 1949, created a vacancy
which remained unfilled until 01 August, 1950, upon which date Gen.
Walter B. Smith was designated as permanent replacement.

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On 24 June, 1947, a civilian pilot, flying over the Cascade Mountains
in the State of Washington observed nine flying disc-shaped aircraft
travelling in formation at a high rate of speed. Although this was not
the first known sighting of such objects, it was the firs to gain
widespread attention in the public media. Hundereds of reports of
sightings of similar objects followed. Many of these came from highly
credible military and civilian sources. These reports resulted in
independent efforts by several different elements of the military to
ascertain the nature and purpose of these objects in the interests of
national defense. A number of witnesses were interviewed and there
were several unsuccessful attemts to utilise aircraft in efforts to
pursue reported discs in flight. Public reaction bordered on near
hysteria at times.

In spite of these efforts, little of substance was learned about the
objects until a local rancher reported that one had crashed in a
remote region of New Mexico located approximately seventy-five miles
northwest of Roswell Army * TOP SECRET *
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Air Base (now Walker Field).

On 07 July, 1947, a secret operation was begun to assure recovery of
the wreckage of this object for scientific study. During the course of
this operation, aerial reconnaissance discovered that four small
human-like beings had apparently ejected from the craft at some point
before it exploded. These had fallen to earth about two miles east of
the wreckage site. All four were dead and badly decomposed due to
action by predators and exposure to the elements during the
approximately one week time period which had elapsed before their
discovery. A special scientific took charge of removing these bodies
for study. (See Attachment "C".) The wreckage of the craft was also
removed to several different locations. (See Attachment "B".) Civilian
and military witnesses in the area were debriefed, and news reporters
wee given the effective cover story that the object had been a
misguided weather research balloon.

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A covert analytical effort organized by Gen. Twining and Dr. Bush
acting on the direct orders of the President, resulted in a
preliminary concensus (19 September, 1947) that the disc was most
likely a short range reconnaissance craft. This conclusion was based
for the most part on the craft's size and the apparent lack of any
identifiable provisioning. (See Attachment "D".) A similar analysis of
the four dead occupants was arranged by Dr. Bronk. It was the
tentative conclusion of this group (30 november, 1947) that although
these creatures are human-like in appearance, the biological and
evolutionary processes responsible for their development has
apparently been quite different from those observed or postulated in
homo-sapiens. Dr Bronk's tea has suggested the term "Extra-terrestrial
Biological Entities", or "EBEs", be adopted as the standard term of
reference for these creatures until such time as a more definitive
designation can be agreed upon.

Since it is virtually certain that these craft do not originate in any
country on earth, considerable speculation has centred around what
their point of origin may be and how they get here. Mars was and
remains a possibility, although some scientists, most notably Dr.
Menzel, consider it more likely that we are dealing with beings from
another solar system entirely.

Numerous examples of what appear to be a form of writing were found in
the wreckage. Efforts to decipher these have remained largely
unsuccessful. (See Attachment "E".) Equally unsuccessful have been
efforts to determine the methods of propulsion or the nature or method
of transmission of the power source involved. Research along these
lines has been complicated by the complete absence of identifiable
wings, propellors, jets, or other conventional methods of propulsion
and guidance, as well as a total lack of metallic wiring, vacuum
tubes, or similar recognizable electronic components. (See Attachment
"F".) It is assumed that the propulsion unit was completely destroyed
by the explosion which caused the crash.

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A need for as much additional information as possible about these
craft, their performance characteristics and their purpose led to the
undertaking known as U.S. Air Force Project SIGN in December, 1947. In
order to preserve security, liason between SIGN and Majestic-12 was
limited to two individuals within the Intelligence Division of Air
Material Command whose role was to pass along certain types of
information through channels. SIGN evolved into Project GRUDGE in
December, 1948. The operation is currently being conducted unde the
code name BLUE BOOK, with liason maintained through the Air Force
officer who is head of the project.

On 06 december, 1950, a second object, probably os similar origin,
impacted the earth at high speed in the El Indio - Guerrero area of
Texas - Mexican border after following a long trajectory through the
atmosphere. by the time a search team arrived, what remained of the
object as been totally incinerated. Such material as could be
recovered was transported to the A.E.C. facility at Sandia, New
Mexico, for study.

Implications for the National Security are of continuing importance in
that the motives and ultimate intentions of these visitors remain
completely unknown. In addition, a significant upsurge in the
surveillance activity of these craft beginning in May and continuing
through the autumn of this year has caused considerable concern that
new developments may be iminent. It is for these reasons, as well as
the obvious international and technological considerations and the
ultimate need to avoid a public panic at all costs, that the Majestic-
12 Group remains of the unanimous opinion that imposition of the
strictest security precautions should continue without interruption
into the new administration. At the same time, contingency plan
MJ-1949-04P/78 (Top Secret - Eyes Only) should be held in continued
readiness should the need to make a public announcement present
itself. (See Attachment "G".)

Bo dovolj?

Poglej postaš nam dokumente(TOP SECRET mogoče niso glih tak TOP) internetne strani poveš imena datotek. Zdaj nam pa še te daj eno navadno sliko ki si jo nareil sam in je nisi niti malo spremenil.
Kako pa so to TOP SECRET stvari če se lahko na njih na veliko razpravlja na forumu?

slo-one
To so citirani originali, kateri so bili v 90-ih deklasificirani, in so dosegljivi javnosti na Freedom of information act približno do 2001 naprej!

Pol si lahko misliš, KAJ JE DANES TOP SECRET?

Sej sem to že večkrat povedal, mogoče nisem dovolj jasno. ČE se nebi omenjeni državni organi zavzeli, še tega nebi imeli. Zato, do danes je že marsikaj prišlo v javnost.
Če npr. poznaš kak dogodek, ki ti ni jasen, lahko pošlješ prošnjo na FOIA in zahtevaš uradno poročilo.
To možnost ima vsak, ker so uradno sprejeli in uzakonili. Samo je še dosti ostalo skritega. In odgovor je, da se ne vznemirja javnost. To javno povejo in nobeden od vas tega neve. Zdaj vidiš kaj sem mislil s tem, da niste niti pogledali dokazov, ki sem jih predložil? To so zame dokazi, na srečo se jih že dosti da uradno pridobit.
Veš kaj je še zelo dober dokaz? Poišči javni sklep in analizo od skupine "Cometa group". Tam tudi zelo lepo piše. USA ni dovolila, da se objavi v Ameriki. Ta dokument je Francoskega izvora, pri katerem so sodelovali najbolj poznani svetovni znastveniki in častniki. Zakaj tega ni nobeden od vas opazil, ker vas očitno ni zanimalo.

Kakšne barve je že Mars?

Zame je Mars točno tak kot je prikazan na tej sliki! Slika iz internete strani "imgsrc.hubblesite.org"

mars kot ga pokaže google

Janševa vlada pa vse zanika. Tako kot je prej vse zanikala Drnovškova vlada, še prej Bajukova, še prej Drnovškova in še prej Peterletova.

Grizejo se med sabo, glede tega, da ni alienov, nas pa družno v živ mozek.

Preklete vlade!

S prve strani in prvega sporočila te teme:

S STE VEDLI DA MARS NI RDEČ PLANET IN DA JE NASELJEN?????

Menjaš barve?

Ne, zdej pa resno! Si ti to plačan ramzes, da tole bluziš, al zastonj briješ norca?

ramzes324, a nisi rekel, da je Mars moder?

hehehe....Zopet Žbintar pametno vn vrgu! A so od 47-ih do 90-ih imeli Photoshop? Pomisli preden, kaj rečeš. Večina slik zajema to obdobje.

Kar se tiče današnjih, pa jim niti jaz ne verjamem, ker se jih da ponaredit! Kljub temu pa nam tehnologija omogoča jih analizirat in ugotovit prevaro. Probaj resnično ponaredit fotko, pa ti še jaz, ki nisem expert, najdem HOAX. Pred teboj jih je dosti probalo, pa jim ni uspelo. Iz preprostega razloga, ker so uporabljali modelčke.
Če tolko govoriš, ponaredi sliko in ti dokažem, da se motiš.

Ej, sem glede na to, da nisem bral vseh klobasarij tle... ampak na kratko...

A ti verjames, da ima mars atmosfero in je celo naseljen al kaj?!

> A ti verjames, da ima mars atmosfero in je celo naseljen al kaj?!

Ajd grem stavt, da ti ne bo odgovoru na to vprašanje. Vsaj ne direktno. Boš moral pobrskat sam po linku, ki ga "je povedal in podal".

Slikej se!

Owca,

Atmosfero primerljivo zemljini.. hrmpf..

Tudi luno ima atmosfero... :P

A so od 47-ih do 90-ih imeli Photoshop?

Kaj rad povedal s tem? Saj Photoshop je zato, da se slike _naknadno_ obdela. Poleg tega jih je nekdo moral spraviti v digitalno obliko.

> Gravitacija ali Atmosfera je razlika. BigWhale![:\\]

Od kje si zdaj to privlekel?

(No tudi gravitacije mars nima niti priblizno taksne kot jo ima zemlja... nekako trikrat manjso...)

Atmosfero primerljivo zemljini.. hrmpf..

Tudi luno ima atmosfero... :P

Ja, jo ima, ampak tam je situacija drugačna, saj je težnostni privlak Lune premajhen glede na gostoto njene atmosfere, da bi imela stalno (stabilno) atmosfero.

"NLP-je" videli tudi v Iranu.

Še zanimiva teorija: "There are a lot of people (at these seminars) who believe in aliens, and all these beautiful women who will have sex with you even though you're a dork," he said. "And that's why most people were there." Citat iz: Wired