Delujoč reaktor hladne fuzije kmalu v vsakem domu!

Danes se začne pomemben test E-Cat-a v Italiji. Razstavili bodo modul razen reaktorjeve sredice in vse stehtali.
Test bo trajal 12 ur.
E-Cat bo deloval v takiimenovanem "self sustained modu". Se pravi napajanje bi rabil samo za zagon, potem bi napajal sam sebe.
Prisostvovali naj bi pomembni znanstveniki.

http://peswiki.com/index.php/News:Real-...

Bomo vidl je reku slep.

Eh. Too good to be true.

(Pa že tako nobena naprava ne more proizvajati več energije kot jo porabi, vse kar naredi je samo to da ima večji output flux kakor input na račun 'izgorevanja', notri pa pretvarja en vir energije v drugega)

Jaz mislim da je problem samo v izkoristku. Pri gorenju so vedno ogromne toplotne izgube.
Če gledamo kot napravo, so zaenkrat najboljše solarne celice. Koristi vir, ki ga je povsod dovolj, obnovljiv in zastonj. Ampak to je pač kolektor energije v naravi.

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/201...
http://tech.slashdot.org/story/11/10/06...

Sej to je glavni razlog zakaj "snake oil" produkti uspevajo.

Preveč si želimo da bi bili učinkoviti in želja zamegli razum.

Kaj se je pa dogajalo, tisti, ki ste spremljali?

Zaenkrat samo komentarji, o tehniki, ki je zadaj, je bolj malo.

Še vedno izgleda hoax, predvsem zaradi takih izjav "We were told the E-Cat itself got incredibly hot (so hot those present could not touch it),...". Kot da tej "znanstveniki" ne občutijo da je stvar vroča na razdalji 0,5m. WTF?

Pa imajo ti "znanstveniki" pri sebi Geigerje? Ker kolikor mi je znano pri fuziji ven letijo precej neprijetne zadeve, kot so gama fotoni in nevtroni, oni pa imajo reakcijo v posodici, ki se jo dotikajo z rokami...
IMHO gre za neko kemijsko reakcijo. 4h testiranja? Naj pustijo tak output 1 leto, po strogim nadzorom, potem bomo pa videli, kako bo stvar špilala brez vnosa goriva..

TUdi če se tole izkaže za nateg me prekleto zanima kako je to izvedel. :)

No, jaz dopuščam možnost kake kemične reakcije...kar kot že povedano niti nebi bilo slabo v kolikor so materiali zlo poceni.

Mogoče je ponesreči izumu kako novo baterijo al kej takega

najbolj bi pa bil vesel, da bi okapi dobil kol v rit

Že mogoče, ampak v resnici boš kol v rit (figuratively speaking, of course), dobil ti (skupaj z vsemi drugimi naivci, ki jim ni že od daleč jasno, da gre za nateg).

O.

Nafutraš notri par kil magnezija, pa imaš gorenja za 4 ure+

Že 1 ! L dizla ti da ven 10kWh energije.

Zadeva je na komot malo over-ratan plinski grelnik.

"Within a few months the product will be on the market, and the best test is done by the customers who will come back with the product if it doesn't work", he told Ny Teknik.

tole kar mocno zbode v oci ... okapi bi rekel, da bo tako nagrabil nekaj kesha in zaprl barako in sel na sejsele....kupci pa bodo jamrali v prazno

Če sem prav razumel je deloval samo en od treh "reaktorjev" v napravi pa še ta na 1/3 kapacitete.

valda moras vzeti iz konkteksta... mislim ej

valda moras vzeti iz konkteksta... mislim ej

a oni tudi tebi denar iz konteksta vzamejo

ali kar direktno iz denarnice???

verjetno iz denarnice - ane?

Ne vem, kaj glumijo. Po reakciji naj razstavijo zadeve in poanalizirajo produkte. Simpl ko pasulj in *bazicna* znanost.

Pri reakciji nastaja baker. Torej ni ožgano od ognja.

rockeye je 7. okt 2011 ob 14:46 izjavil:

Ko bojo znanstveniki širom sveta začeli nadgrajevati njegov izum.... samo pomislite, kakšen napredek si lahko obetamo.

Saj to je fora vsega tega. Zadeva je v osnovi prototip.
Kot je bil prvi jedrski reaktor v elektrarni pol stoletja in več nazaj.

Verjetno to ni edini par kovin, ki tako reagira.

zee je 7. okt 2011 ob 15:10 izjavil:

Nikelj v prahu + H₂ + posoda z zrakom. Tako "na uc" bi rekel, da tip izvaja enostavno oksidacijo vodika v vodo, pri cemer se sproscata voda v plinastem agregatnem stanju in toplota. Slednjo odvaja hladilna voda.

A misliš, da tega niso že preverili?

zee je 7. okt 2011 ob 15:10 izjavil:

Nikelj v prahu + H₂ + posoda z zrakom. Tako "na uc" bi rekel, da tip izvaja enostavno oksidacijo vodika v vodo, pri cemer se sproscata voda v plinastem agregatnem stanju in toplota. Slednjo odvaja hladilna voda.

V porocilu, ki je bil linkan, baker ni bil omenjen. Slednji lahko zaradi sirjenja posode, do katerega prihaja zaradi kemijske reakcije in plinastih produktov, enostavno odpade iz notranje stene posode.

Ce je dovod plinastega vodika konstanten, potem lahko tudi reakcija poteka prav lepo kontrolirano. Na zacetku je potrebna iskra, potem pa reakcija "tece sama", vse dokler se dovaja vodik.

Se kaj?

Google najde precej o tem. Sem našel tole iz leta 1974. Kaj je to ista reakcija? Link

^^

lol

Moje mnenje je da sodeluje z italjansko mafijo, ki mu je tudi sofinancirala nabavo opreme/materialov za ta zanimiv hoax.

a ne z osnovnošolskim??

mislim, dajte no...

http://peswiki.com/index.php/News:Real-...

October 7, 2012

Earlier today, we sent an email to Andrea Rossi, that contained a number of questions, about the test that was performed yesterday on October 6, 2011. He has promptly responded with answers, although he states some issues are confidential. I would like to thank him for taking the time to answer our questions.
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DEAR ALL,

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUOUS ATTENTION. PLEASE FIND THE ANSWERS IN BLOCK LETTERS ALONG YOUR TEXT:

Dear Andrea Rossi,

In regards to the latest test of the Energy Catalyzer, I have a number of questions I hope you can answer.

1) My understanding is that if a reactor core is not adjusted to be under-powered (below its maximum potential) in self-sustain mode, it can have a tendency to become unstable and climb in output. If the reactor is left in an unstable self-sustaining mode for too long, the output can climb to potentially dangerous levels. Can you provide some information about how the reactor core in the test was adjusted to self-sustain in a safe manner?

NO, VERY SORRY

a) For example, there was only one active reactor core in the module tested. How was the single reactor core adjusted to be under-powered?

CONFIDENTIAL INFO

b) Is adjusting the reactor core as simple as lowering the hydrogen pressure?

2) What is the power consumption of the device that "produces frequencies" that was mentioned in the NyTeknik article? Although the power consumption of this device is probably insignificant, providing a figure could help put to rest the idea (that some are suggesting) that a large amount of power was being consumed by the frequency-generating device, and transmitted into the reactor.

THE ENERGY CONSUMED FROM THE FREQUENCY GENERATOR IS 50 WH/H AND IT HAS BEEN CALCULATED, BECAUSE THIS APPARATUS WAS PLUGGED IN THE SAME LINE WHERE THE ENERGY-CONSUME MEASUREMENT HAS BEEN DONE


a) Can you tell us anything more about this frequency generating device and its function?

NO, SORRY, THIS IS A CONFIDENTIAL ISSUE

b) Is the frequency-generating device turned on at all times when a module is in operation, or only when a module is in self-sustain mode?

CONFIDENTIAL ISSUE

c) Some are suggesting that this device is "the" catalyst that drives the reactions in the reactor core. However, you have stated in the past that the catalyst is actually one or more physical elements (in addition to nickel and hydrogen) that are placed in the reactor core. Can you confirm that physical catalysts are used in the reactor?

YES, I CONFIRM THIS

3) Does the reaction have to be quenched with additional water flow though the reactor, or is reducing the hydrogen pressure enough to end the reactions on its own?

NEEDS ADDITIONAL QUENCHING

a) If reducing the hydrogen pressure (or venting it completely) is not enough to turn off the module, could it be due to the fact some hydrogen atoms are still bonded to nickel atoms, and undergoing nuclear reactions?

YES

b) If there is some other reason why reducing hydrogen pressure is not enough to quickly turn off the module, could you please specify?


Thank you for taking the time to answer these questions, and for allowing a test to be performed that clearly shows anomalous and excess energy being produced. Hopefully, the world will notice the significance of this test.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND, SINCE I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NOT TIME TO ANSWER (I MADE AN EXCEPTION FOR YOU) PLEASE EXPLAIN THAT BEFORE THE SELF SUSTAINING MODE THE REACTOR WAS ALREADY PRODUCING ENERGY MORE THAN IT CONSUMED, SO THAT THE ENERGY CONSUMED IS NOT LOST, BUT TURNED INTO ENERGY ITSELF, THEREFORE IS NOT PASSIVE. ANOTHER IMPORTANT INFORMATION: IF YOU LOOK CAREFULLY AT THE REPORT, YOU WILL SEE THAT THE SPOTS OF DRIVE WITH THE RESISTANCE HAVE A DURATION OF ABOUT 10 MINUTES, WHILE THE DURATION OF THE SELF SUSTAINING MODES IS PROGRESSIVELY LONGER, UNTIL IT ARRIVES TO BE UP TO HOURS. BESIDES, WE PRODUCED AT LEAST 4.3 kWh/h FOR ABOUT 6 HOURS AND CONSUMED AN AVERAGE OF 1.3 kWh/h FOR ABOUT 3 HOURS, SO THAT WE MADE IN TOTAL DURING THE TEST 25.8 kWh AND CONSUMED IN TOTAL DURING THE TEST 3.9 kWh. iN THE WORST POSSIBLE SCENARIO, WHICH MEANS NOT CONSIDERING THAT THE CONSUME IS MAINLY MADE DURING THE HEATING OF THE REACTOR DURING THE FIRST 2 HOURS, WE CAN CONSIDER THAT THE WORST POSSIBLE RATIO IS 25.8 : 3.9 AND THIS IS THE COP 6 WHICH WE ALWAYS SAID. OF COURSE, THE COP IS BETTER, BECAUSE, OBVIOUSLY, THE REACTOR, ONCE IN TEMPERATURE, NEEDS NOT TO BE HEATED AGAIN FROM ROOM TEMPERATURE TO OPERATIONAL TEMPERATURE.

Velike črke ločijo odgovore od vprašanj. Nima veze to z verodostojnostjo.

"Just wait 20 days since now: the plant will be inaugurated, and it will be clear to you that the plant is able to produce A LOT of energy "

1MW eletrarna bo postavljena kar v Italiji in naj bi začela s proizvodnjo elektrike čez 3 tedne.