Delujoč reaktor hladne fuzije kmalu v vsakem domu!

Loocas je 21. nov 2011 ob 20:50 izjavil:

Članek Nasa inženirja je glede tega uničujoč.

Če navajaš Krivita, potem moraš vsaj to vedet, da je osebni prijatelj Piantellija (ta drugega iz povezave Focardi-Piantelli) in da se dogaja čista medijska vojna. Krivit in Piantelli naj bi sodelovala z Defkalionom, torej direktnim konkurentom Rossija. Defkalion tudi ne zanika, da bo v svojih napravah uporabljal Piantellijevo rešitev.

To kar lapa Krivit na svojem blogu je treba vzet z rezervo. Tako kot Rossija seveda.

According to a slide presentation given by NASA engineer Michael A. Nelson...

Počasi bomo lahko uporabili occamovo rezilo - če vse kaže na to, da je fail, potem je fail.

Loocas je 21. nov 2011 ob 20:33 izjavil:

@Silverflow
Cena delnice je predvsem odvisna od tega ali bo Rossi lahko patentiral svoj izum.
Močno dvomim, da mu bo uspelo preprečit prav vse posnemovalce. Pravzaprav upam, da ne bo mogel tega patentirat. Tako se lahko nadejamo izjemno ugodnih cen s strani raznih kitajskih proizvajalcev

Koliko EUR bi ti dal za delnice, če bi danes eCat kotiral na borzi, Rossi pa ni uspel z nobeno patentno prijavo?
Prosim za odgovor v obliki: 1 EUR / 10 EUR / 100 EUR / 1000 EUR / 10000 EUR.

Hvala.

So se vsi zmotili?

Ne boš verjel - komot.
Zelo zelo težko se je **ne** zmotit, zelo komot se je zmotit, tut vsakič drugače.

Zelo rad bi videl delujočo hladno fuzijo ampak vso tole dogajanje nekako 'does not compute'.

Ah Loocas Loocas, kaj če prevetrima teh 17 strani teme, ko si se skliceval na Rossija in Focardija in sodelovanje z Bolonjsko univerzo.

"no E-Cat experiments (not on October 28th nor in any previous occasion) have ever been performed inside any of the University of Bologna facilities nor by any of the University of Bologna researchers."

/prosim izbrišite

Matev je 21. nov 2011 ob 21:09 izjavil:

"no E-Cat experiments (not on October 28th nor in any previous occasion) have ever been performed inside any of the University of Bologna facilities nor by any of the University of Bologna researchers."

Sounds like a scam to me.

Niti Rossi ne ve. Pa bi skoraj moral.

dzinks63 je 21. nov 2011 ob 21:09 izjavil:

Sam sem še bolj pesimističen. Hladna fuzija bo mogoče uporabno mogoča čez kakšnih 1000 let ali pa še veliko veliko pozneje. Zadeva ni simpl. Lepiti nevtrone in protone na jedro z ravno pravo energijo, da se ne razletijo in da obstanejo stabilni, sploh če upoštevamo da se protoni od pozitivnega jedra odbijajo, vse to skupaj je izjemno težko v pogojih hladne fuzije. To niso lego kocke, to niso navadne kemijske reakcije, kjer se da s pomočjo katalizatorjev pospeševati in usmerjati reakcije. To so jederske reakcije, kar pa je nekaj povsem drugega.

Bistvo je premetavanje protonov in nevtronov.

res si biser.. strašni biser...

to niso navadne kemijske reakcije, kjer se da s pomočjo katalizatorjev pospeševati in usmerjati reakcije. To so jederske reakcije, kar pa je nekaj povsem drugega.

Tole ni cisto res. Ampak katalizator je mion - subatomski delec.

Muon-catalyzed fusion (?CF) is a process allowing nuclear fusion to take place at temperatures significantly lower than the temperatures required for thermonuclear fusion, even at room temperature or lower. Although it can be produced reliably with the right equipment and has been much studied, it is believed that the poor energy balance will prevent it from ever becoming a practical power source. However, if muons (?-
) could be produced more efficiently, or if they could be used as catalysts more efficiently, the energy balance might improve enough for muon-catalyzed fusion to become a practical power source.

Loocas:

bi moral brat še kaj drugega od Slo-techa...

Se pravi, tule niste ponovili vseh "pomembnih dejstev" vsaj ene 15x?

Včasih je bolje prebrati manj kot pa več. Da zaradi posameznih dreves ne spregledaš gozda - ki ga ni.
Potrebno je znati videt tudi tisto česar ni, pa bi po vseh pravilih logike moralo bit v takšni ali drugačni obliki.

Na primer kakšna vsaj na pol spodobna meritev dogajanja. V lastni garaži, pol ko avto zapeljem ven, lahko vzpostavim bol kontroliran proces/poizkus kot pa je tole, kar se objavlja kot *dokazni preizkus*.

Rezultat "voda se je segrela". GTFO.

Aston_11 je 21. nov 2011 ob 21:22 izjavil:

Kakšno vezo imata kvantna mehanika in rossijev štedilnik?

Everything.

Očitno se je tega zavedal, ker je iskal stik s Piantellijem in nato s Focardijem.

če prlimamo cel članek:

Brian Ahern getting 8 Watts for over four days of operation in a Low Energy Nuclear Process
http://nextbigfuture.com/2011/06/brian-...

Brian Ahern replicated the work of Arata where Arata got small amounts of power without adding any power into his cold fusion set up.

Brian Ahern received his PhD in material science from MIT, holds 26 patents and was a senior scientist for 17 years in research and development at USAF Rome Lab at Hanscom Air Force Base.

Brian Ahern is attempting replications of Rossi and Forcardi and he is getting 8 watts of continuous power output (for over four days of operation) from 10 grams of metal nanopowder. The good news is there is no radiation detectable above background levels . It is also worthy to note that there were no precious metals involved the alloy was Zr66%-Ni21%-Cu13%. The Zirconium becomes Zirconium dioxide when it is baked.

An email at vortex where Ahern provides some description of the processes he used that generated 5 watts for a few days

There is an as yet undisclosed spillover catalysts that amplifies the process. The LENR community is directing its attention to this nanoscale opportunity.

So Brian Ahern is getting some success replicating Rossi and Focardi. Brian Ahern plans to make some adjustments to what he is doing to attempt to get the higher power levels that Rossi and Forcardi have claimed to achieved over the last year or so.

2011 Lattice Assisted Nuclear Reaction/Cold Fusion Colloquium at MIT

Science and engineering of cold fusion, also known as LANR, LENR, and CMNS.
Where: Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Cambridge, MA
It was this past weekend. Saturday and Sunday, June 11 and 12, 2011

Speakers: Peter Hagelstein, Mitchell Swartz, Brian Ahern, Larry Forsley, George Miley, Robert Smith, Fran Tanzella, Xing Zhong Li, and contributions by other colleagues.

I think that the partial replication removes the scenario of complete fraud for the Rossi claims. I suppose there could still be fraud for the kilowatt level of work where the lower power levels replicate. However, Brian Ahern seems to think that he will be able to get to far higher power levels as well based upon his decades of related work and the results that he is getting.

The description of steps taken to get 5 watts for a few days

Ames National Laboratory processed metal alloy foils via arc melting
followed by melt spinning. This is the Yamaura process employed by Arata
and others. The foils were baked in ordinary air at 445C for 28 hours.

The brittle, oxidized foils were placed in a tumble mill for 24 hours.

This resulted in 30 grams of black powder with a median grain size of about
40 microns.Presumably, each grain has about one million nanoscale islands of
NiCu inside.

The 30 grams occupies about 7 ml inside the 50 ml dewar. The system was
vacuum baked at 220C for 24 hours and cooled to room temperature.

H2 gas was added at 200psi. The pressure dropped only to about 185 psi over
twenty minutes. In these replication experiments the exothermic reactions
have had peak temperatures above 220C with substantial loading above 3.0 H/M
ratios. This time the temperature only rose by 2 degrees C.

The system was heated with a band heater to high temperature. There was no
controller. A rheostat was set at an arbitrary position and the system comes
to a an arbitrary temperature.The average power input was 90 watts.

After several hours the hydrated system was evacuated overnight at a
constant high temperature at 530C. The next day H2 gas was again added at
100psi and the temperature rose by 40C to 570C and came back down to 530C
after two hours. At the end of the day the dewar was again evacuated while
still at 530C overnight.

The third day repeated the same procedure. H2 gas was added at 100psi and
the temperature rose by 44C to 574C. However, this time it did not come back
to the initial temperature. It remained at the elevated temperature
overnight.

On the fourth day H2 gas was again added at 100psi and the system rose by
50C to 580C and again stayed at the elevated temperature indefinitely.

A rough calibration suggests that the 30 grams of hydrated nanopowder is
putting out 5 watts of excess power.

Yesterday Peter Gluck suggested that the relationship between loading and
excess power may be a myth. This seemed to be true for electrolysis with Pd
and heavy water where loading levels exceeding 0.9 D/M were a prerequisite
for observing excess power.

My loading level with this nanopowder sample as less than 0.1 H/M.

This 5 watt excess is very much less than Rossi, but it is a real and
repeatable experiment There was no radiation above the background level.

Loocas je 21. nov 2011 ob 21:08 izjavil:

EC9 je 21. nov 2011 ob 20:56 izjavil:

Koliko EUR bi ti dal za delnice, če bi danes eCat kotiral na borzi, Rossi pa ne uspe z nobenim poskusom patenta?
Prosim za odgovor v obliki: 1 EUR / 10 EUR / 100 EUR / 1000 EUR / 10000 EUR.
Hvala.

Brez patenta.. ne več kot 10-15% (tako ali tako bo potem en kup firm, ki bodo to izdelovala)

Česa? Tvojega premoženja?

Če imaš recimo 100.000 EUR premoženja (vrednost avta, stanovanja, delnic, gotovina...) bi dal 15.000 EUR za delnice eCat?

Loocas: dej no, pa sej ne visi tvoje zivljenje na nitki zaradi tega izuma, da ga tako gorece zagovarajs in se prepriras tle z vsemi....

vsi smo svoje mnenje povedali... sploh ne vem, kaj bi rad dosegel? Za ostale trole vem...

daj si pusti dihat in ne nasedaj na provokacije... pac pridno lepi sem novosti in to je to...breveze svojih zivcev in na splosno smetit to temo.... tudi troli se bodo izpeli in potihnili, ce ne bos prilival vode na gorece olje...


pac vsi si zelimo cimvec relevantnih informacij...ce ze lepis linke, lepi tudi take, ki morebiti pricajo tudi proti rossiju..

peace out

Kar je res zanimljivo je to da na netu ni nobenega linka kjer bi bil Rossijev šporhet vnaprej obsojen na propad,oz da ne deluje. Če ma kdo kšn link da vidimo,jaz ga še nisem videl.

Okapi je 21. nov 2011 ob 21:51 izjavil:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/74155/Ecat%20ho...


O.

lol... evo pa mas link ;)

Loocas je 21. nov 2011 ob 21:33 izjavil:

Če imaš recimo 100.000 EUR premoženja (vrednost avta, stanovanja, delnic, gotovina...) bi dal 15.000 EUR za delnice eCat? 10-15% za ta sektor (eCAT, eCAT kopije, izdelovalci podpornih naprav, rudniki Niklja)

Aja.. mogoče se ti zdi malo.
Nooo... Fora je v tem, da Rossi ni edini, ki razvija take in podobne "štose".

Steorn (kaj si že rekel ZaphodBB?.. da od njih ni nič?)

eee.. wrong...

Dva tedna nazaj (8.nov.2011) je Steorn vendarle predstavil HephaHeat
http://www.steorn.com/heating/



HUD bojler!

tukaj je nekaj izjemnih filmčkov
http://pesn.com/2011/10/05/9501927_Steo...
pa še tehnikalije:
http://pesn.com/2011/11/08/9601951_Steo...

Okapi je 21. nov 2011 ob 21:51 izjavil:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/74155/Ecat%20ho...


O.

No,vsaj potrudil si se.

jep... 1kW inputa in 40kW outputa..

Loocas je 21. nov 2011 ob 22:12 izjavil:

jep... 1kW inputa in 40kW outputa..

Nope, nobene meritve vhodne moči/energije.
Samo copranje z napetostjo in temperaturo kar je samo po sebi le pol zgodbe.

V vsaki polspodobni elektro-štacuni dobiš klinčev kitajski powermeter, ki ti šteje Wh. Še tega niso mogl porint na vhod.

Ker je na webu na desetine različnih teorij, kako ta Rossijev LENR deluje, je tukaj kot zanimivost en link do teorije Franka Znidarsica (verjetno slovenskega rodu):

The Z Theory of Everything

Zakaj ni intervjuja s kupcem ?