Debian Gnu/Linux kot workstation

Zdravo!
Jst mam pa problem s pecenjem cdjev. sm naredu tko, kt je majster reku (nalozu un modul in zapisal tist text (primerno prirejen) v /etc/lilo.conf). pa mi k3b se zmer ne zazna pekaca, zazna ga kot bralnik.
Kako bi lahko to popravu?

kako to misls?
in kako se to naredi?

jp, sm to naredu, ampak spet problem:
jav napako!
ko odstranm uno, kar sm na novo vpisu, pa spet kewl dela.

kam tocn morm napisat uno, da bo delal (zdej sm napisu na konc, pa slabo kaze)

thx

# /etc/lilo.conf - See: `lilo(8)' and `lilo.conf(5)',
# --------------- `install-mbr(8)', `/usr/share/doc/lilo/',
# and `/usr/share/doc/mbr/'.

# +---------------------------------------------------------------+
# | !! Reminder !! |
# | |
# | Don't forget to run `lilo' after you make changes to this |
# | conffile, `/boot/bootmess.txt', or install a new kernel. The |
# | computer will most likely fail to boot if a kernel-image |
# | post-install script or you don't remember to run `lilo'. |
# | |
# +---------------------------------------------------------------+

# Support LBA for large hard disks.
#
lba32

# Overrides the default mapping between harddisk names and the BIOS'
# harddisk order. Use with caution.
disk=/dev/hdc
bios=0x80


# Specifies the boot device. This is where Lilo installs its boot
# block. It can be either a partition, or the raw device, in which
# case it installs in the MBR, and will overwrite the current MBR.
#
boot=/dev/hdc

# Specifies the device that should be mounted as root. (`/')
#
root=/dev/hdc1

# Enable map compaction:
# Tries to merge read requests for adjacent sectors into a single
# read request. This drastically reduces load time and keeps the
# map smaller. Using `compact' is especially recommended when
# booting from a floppy disk. It is disabled here by default
# because it doesn't always work.
#
# compact

# Installs the specified file as the new boot sector
# You have the choice between: bmp, compat, menu and text
# Look in /boot/ and in lilo.conf(5) manpage for details
#
install=/boot/boot-menu.b

# Specifies the location of the map file
#
map=/boot/map

# You can set a password here, and uncomment the `restricted' lines
# in the image definitions below to make it so that a password must
# be typed to boot anything but a default configuration. If a
# command line is given, other than one specified by an `append'
# statement in `lilo.conf', the password will be required, but a
# standard default boot will not require one.
#
# This will, for instance, prevent anyone with access to the
# console from booting with something like `Linux init=/bin/sh',
# and thus becoming `root' without proper authorization.
#
# Note that if you really need this type of security, you will
# likely also want to use `install-mbr' to reconfigure the MBR
# program, as well as set up your BIOS to disallow booting from
# removable disk or CD-ROM, then put a password on getting into the
# BIOS configuration as well. Please RTFM `install-mbr(8)'.
#
# password=tatercounter2000

# Specifies the number of deciseconds (0.1 seconds) LILO should
# wait before booting the first image.
#
delay=20

# You can put a customized boot message up if you like. If you use
# `prompt', and this computer may need to reboot unattended, you
# must specify a `timeout', or it will sit there forever waiting
# for a keypress. `single-key' goes with the `alias' lines in the
# `image' configurations below. eg: You can press `1' to boot
# `Linux', `2' to boot `LinuxOLD', if you uncomment the `alias'.
#
# message=/boot/bootmess.txt
prompt
timeout=150
# prompt
# single-key
# delay=100
# timeout=100

# Specifies the VGA text mode at boot time. (normal, extended, ask, )
#
# vga=ask
# vga=9
#
vga=normal

# Kernel command line options that apply to all installed images go
# here. See: The `boot-prompt-HOWO' and `kernel-parameters.txt' in
# the Linux kernel `Documentation' directory.
#
# append=""
append="hdb=ide-scsi"

# Boot up Linux by default.
#
default=Linux

image=/vmlinuz
label=Linux
read-only
# restricted
# alias=1

image=/vmlinuz.old
label=LinuxOLD
read-only
optional
# restricted
# alias=2

# If you have another OS on this machine to boot, you can uncomment the
# following lines, changing the device name on the `other' line to
# where your other OS' partition is.
#
# other=/dev/hda4
# label=HURD
# restricted
# alias=3
other=/dev/hdc5
label="Win/DOS(hdc5)"

other=/dev/hdc3
label="Other(hdc3)"

to je brez append="hda=ide=scsi" [drgac ga pa dodam na koncu]ž
LP, Jakob

sm tist vnesu pravilno v lilo.conf,vpisem ukaz lilo, deluje v redu. potem vpisem se modprobe ide-scsi (kot svetuje k3b), ampak k3b pekac se zmerej zazna kot bralnik. zdej mi pa ni vec jasn, kaj lahko naredim???
pekac je pa Sony CRX1611 (16-10-40)
Hvala za pomoc

hmm, a ni ponavadi cdrom /dev/hdc

append="hdc=ide-scsi"


saj pri meni je bilo ponavadi tako

jakob@strbenk:~$ dmesg | grep scsi
Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=Linux ro root=1601 hda=ide=scsi
ide_setup: hda=ide=scsi -- BAD OPTION
request_module[scsi_hostadapter]: Root fs not mounted
request_module[scsi_hostadapter]: Root fs not mounted
i2o_scsi.c: Version 0.0.1
scsi0 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices
jakob@strbenk:~$

tole mi izpise...
torej je problem v scsi emulaciji...

tm je bla torej napaka. zdej mi scsi emulacija dela!
ampak pekaca se zmerej ne zazna???

jakob@strbenk:~$ dmesg | grep scsi
Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=Linux ro root=1601 hda=ide-scsi
ide_setup: hda=ide-scsi
request_module[scsi_hostadapter]: Root fs not mounted
request_module[scsi_hostadapter]: Root fs not mounted
i2o_scsi.c: Version 0.0.1
scsi0 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices
Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
Attached scsi CD-ROM sr1 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 1
sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 40x/40x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
sr1: scsi3-mmc drive: 40x/40x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
jakob@strbenk:~$

tole napise dmesg |grep scsi
drgac mi pa zdej k3b zazna 3 cd pogone (mam samo 2), 2 sta SCSI, eden je navaden. Vsi se izpisejo pod reader.

Huh? Jaz sem uporabljal xcdroast ze pred vsaj tremi leti, z raznoraznimi pekaci. Nima xcdroast dosti veze, podpora za IDE/.ATAPI pekace je v kernelu, xcdroast in ostali pa uporabljajo tisti API (SCSI, za IDE naprave pa obstaja SCSI emulacija)

aja, kako je s serialata?

na zacetku ti na vrhu konzole napise kateri sistem imas..

oz. cat /etc/debian_version


glede tiste napake na nisem popolnoma preprican .. poskusi z apt-get install kde

apt-get update si pognal?

Riplix:

Še enkrat preveri /etc/apt/sources.list Evo ti kar mojega, pa ga C/P...

deb http://ftp.si.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib
deb-src http://ftp.si.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib non-free
deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib non-free


Potem še enkrat poženi apt-get update. Zatem apt-get dist-upgrade, Še dela? apt-get install kdebase
Zdaj bi mogl gret.. Če ne, kaj ti izpljune apt-get install kde*

by!

Najlepsa hvala obema...sem dal v sources.list linke, ki si jih Rocha dal pa deluje. Trenutno ravno updatam dist. Upam, da se ne bo kaj zalomilo pri KDEju.
Se enkrat hvala.

lp
Riplix

Ho...koncno uspel usposobiti XServer ter namizje KDE...zdaj pa se pocasi spuscam v bolj specificna podrocja . Rad bi usposobil Sambo, da bi sem ter tja kaksno datoteko povlekel iz Win masine. Kaksen nasvet kje zacet ipd?

lp
Riplix

a je že navoljo slučajno slovenski KDE???

Mali popravek paket je: kde-i18n-sl, da se tip ne bo po nepotrebnem mucil...

Še tko za "plošno izobrazbo" od kje ime i18n. Pride od besede internationalization, ker pa je malo dolgo za pisat, so pustili samo prvo in zadnjo črko, vmes pa napisali koliko znakov manjka :)


by!

kakak bedna fora tole z i18n.... sem se kr nekaj krat spraševal pa mislil kaj za ena verzija je to :)

unstable ima vcasih probleme s soodvisnostmi .. naceloma je pa ftp.si.debian.org uradni celotni mirror primarnega debian streznika in prenasa _vse_ tudi celotni deb-src (sem ugotovil, da recimo arnesov mirror nima sourca..)

Verjetno bi bomo lazje pomagali, ce bos povedal kaksen konkretni paketek. Sicer te pa verjetno muci kaj v tem stilu:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
evolution: Depends: libgnome-pilot1 (>= 0.1.70) but 0.1.64-1 is to be installed
E: Broken packages

To pac pomeni, da moras na roko resevat probleme s soodvisnotmi in je naceloma jeba, ce ne ves kaj delas oz. kaj se dogaja.. svetujem ti da tu povprasas kako in kaj oz. se bos ze naucil s casom :)

KBear uporabljam kot FTP client in mi je vsec :)

Ho...ko naredim dist-upgrade se sredi nadgradnje ustavi ter izpise:
"E: This installation run will require temporarily removing the essential
package libpam-modules due to a Conflicts/Pre-Depends loop. This is
often bad, but if you really want to do it, activate the
APT::Force-LoopBreak option.
E: Internal Error, Could not early remove libpam-modules"

Kaj mi je storiti? No uporabil sem ukaz dpkg --force-depends -r libpam-modules ter nato apt-get -f dist-upgrade ampak se mi zdi, da se pojavljajo kar neke napake...tako da verjetno to ni najboljse izbira...mogoce kaksna ideja kako bi moral postopat?

lp
Riplix

v konzolo napisem
smbmount //athlon/c /ath
in napise mi: Could not resolve mount point /ath
kaj naj naredim, da bo delalo?

unstable zdej sploh ne dela. zamenjam vse stable z unstable, prekopiram gandalfarjev seznam, jav napako!?! (v smislu da un direktorij ne obstaja)
a vam dela unstable?
BTW sm probu SLO, A in USA serverje. ne dela

kaj mi je storiti?

zdej downloada v redu, ko je pa treba instalirat, pa jav napako:

Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
E: This installation run will require temporarily removing the essential package libpam-modules due to a Conflicts/Pre-Depends loop. This is often bad, but if you really want to do it, activate the APT::Force-LoopBreak option.
E: Internal Error, Could not early remove libpam-modules
strbenk:~#

kaksne ideje? (sem probu 'apt-get -o apt::forceloopbreak=true dist-upgrade', pa se zgodi isto). poskusu sm tud xe ugasnt, pa ne pomaga.
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problem resen (s pomocjo Gandalfarja)
naredu sm napako pri vpisu dodatnih opcij. pravilno je 'apt-get -o APT::Force-LoopBreak=1 dist-upgrade'

Problem:
jaz mam preko routerja (planetovega) pol v router imam adsl vštekan.. pol pa iz njega v 4 pc-je :) zdej pa na winsih dela linuxu pa neznam nastavit.. mogoče veš ti kako?

hem.. zaminivo.. neče delat...
/etc/resolv.conf te datoteke sploh nimam!
Toraj je nekaj fejst narobe..