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CPU se malo overheata

FiReFTW ::

Pred kratkim sem kupil računalnik

ASUS PRIME Z790M-Plus
i5-14600KF
32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 Ram 6000 MHz
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Ti
2TB M.2 NVMe SSD
850W Gold Napajalnik
Vodno Hlajenje AIO

Problem je da se pri gamingu CPU overheata in včasih ven meče iz iger, temperature narastejo do 95-100 stopinj

Trenutno sem rešil zadevo tako da sem turbo od CPU omejil iz 5300Ghz na 4500Ghz, zdaj so temperature okoli 90-92 stopinj max, kar je vsaj sprejemljivo, ampak ni pa neka rešitev.

Any advice?

mtosev ::

Imaš najnovejši bios? Tile procesorji so imeli težave zaradi overvoltage.
Core i9 10900X, ASUS Prime X299 Edition 30, 32GB 4x8 3600Mhz G.skill, CM H500M,
ASUS ROG Strix RTX 2080 Super, Samsung 970 PRO, UltraSharp UP3017, Win 11 Pro,
Enermax Platimax 1700W | moj oče darko 1960-2016, moj labradorec max 2002-2013

Bizkit45 ::

Vodno Hlajenje AIO - tole si pa skor preveč detajlov dal :)
Moje mnjenje je da je ta tvoj "AIO" prešvoh za ta proc in ne odvaja 125W (180+W). Druga varjanata je, da stik ni ok (pasta in te fore pri nameščanju). Ali pa preprosto slabo hlajena škatLJa..

klinker ::

Sicer so Inteli pecice ja, sam i5 se pa ne bi smel tako segrevat.
Ne vem kako vodno imas to, a ce je na nivoju ostalega, ki ni slabo, bi reku da nekaj ne stima z naneseno termalno pasto.
Pa kot je omenil mtosev, posodobi bios ce se ni.
Ne vem kdo danes sicer se kuli Intela :)

FiReFTW ::

Bios piše da je iz 2023, tako da možno da je posodobitev na voljo, ampak nisem še nikoli tega delal, kako točno naredim to?

Nevem pa kakšno vodno hlajenje je to, a se da kako preverit? Je pa komponentko sestavljen računalnik tako da bi bil malo presenečen da bi bilo slabo hlajenje za ta računalnik... hm

klinker ::

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Glede hlajenja, bi moglo pisat na racunu, se pa ne bi cudil da je komponentko tudi slabo namazal termalno pasto :D

Robert_S ::

A si novga kupu ? Pol je še v garanciji , nes ga nazaj ko jih jebe , kaj se boš ti zdej s tem jebal .

Rias Gremory ::

https://slo-tech.com/novice/t833789

Če je procesor nov je rešitev posodobitev BIOS-a, oziroma uporaba procesorja, ki ni Intel 13. oz. 14 generacije.
Mirno gledamo, kako naš svet propada,
saj za časa našega življenja ne bo popolnoma propadel.

mtosev ::

Moje mnenje je da updajta bios. Če se težave nadaljujejo naj nese nazaj.
Core i9 10900X, ASUS Prime X299 Edition 30, 32GB 4x8 3600Mhz G.skill, CM H500M,
ASUS ROG Strix RTX 2080 Super, Samsung 970 PRO, UltraSharp UP3017, Win 11 Pro,
Enermax Platimax 1700W | moj oče darko 1960-2016, moj labradorec max 2002-2013

RedDrake ::

Sorry, tole ne more biti BIOS težava per se.
Lahko je:

  • krivulja za AIO fan slaba in preprosto premalo hladi,

  • AIO spustil del tekočine (če gre počasi lahko da je izhlapela),

  • termalna pasta postala slaba.


Jaz stavim na tretjo možnost, ker se je meni zgodilo podobno in to z arctic pasto, ki načeloma ni totalen šrot.
Po slabem letu je v identičnih pogojih CPU uspel iti iz okoli 80°C max na občasno dosežen Tjmax pri 100°C.

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kixs ::

Kupil bi Ryzna :)

RedDrake ::

Imel primer, ko je Ryzen 5700x v slabem ohišju (think 15 let star office box) s solidnim (za 150W+ deklariranim) bequiet coolerjem gladko dosegal 95°C ...

kixs ::

Kaj to delate...

RedDrake ::

Sve i svašta :)
Tipično je pa posredi skopuharjenje do zadnjega centa, veliko prahu in še kaj.

sbawe64 ::

Katero vodno ? Nastavi njegove ventilatorje na več obratov.
Katero ohišje ?

Če boš nadgradil bios, prvo odstrani cmos baterijo za 1 minuto (takrat je elektrika off), nato flashaj.

Ai odgovarja, glej bios nastavitve


Okay, let's address the i5-14600KF running hot on your ASUS PRIME Z790M-Plus motherboard. It's a common concern, especially with unlocked (KF) processors, as they can draw significant power under load. Here's a breakdown of BIOS settings you can adjust to help cool it down, along with explanations and considerations:

**Understanding the Problem**

Before diving into BIOS settings, it's important to understand *why* your CPU might be running hot:

* **CPU Cooler:** The most common culprit. Is your cooler adequate for a 14600KF? Stock coolers are generally insufficient. You need a decent aftermarket air cooler (like a Noctua NH-U12S, be quiet! Dark Rock 4, or similar) or a capable liquid cooler (240mm AIO or larger is recommended).
* **Thermal Paste:** Did you apply thermal paste correctly between the CPU and cooler? Too much or too little can hinder heat transfer.
* **Case Airflow:** Is your case providing sufficient airflow? Make sure you have intake fans bringing cool air in and exhaust fans removing hot air. Poor airflow can trap heat around the CPU.
* **Ambient Temperature:** A hotter room will naturally lead to higher CPU temperatures.
* **BIOS Settings (Default Overclocking):** Many motherboards, including ASUS, have "automatic overclocking" features enabled by default. These features can push the CPU beyond its stock specifications, increasing heat output.
* **Workload:** What are you doing when the CPU gets hot? Gaming, video editing, rendering, and other CPU-intensive tasks will naturally generate more heat.

**BIOS Settings to Adjust (ASUS PRIME Z790M-Plus)**

Here's a step-by-step guide to the BIOS settings you can adjust to lower CPU temperatures. **Important:** Make changes incrementally and monitor temperatures after each adjustment to see the impact.

1. **Accessing the BIOS:**

* Restart your computer.
* As the computer boots, repeatedly press the "Delete" key (or sometimes F2, F12, or Esc, depending on your system configuration) to enter the BIOS setup. The boot screen will usually tell you which key to press.

2. **Navigating the BIOS:**

* ASUS BIOS interfaces can vary slightly, but generally, you'll use the arrow keys to navigate and the "Enter" key to select options. Look for a section called "Advanced Mode" or similar to access the full range of settings.

3. **Disable ASUS MultiCore Enhancement (MCE) / Core Enhancement:**

* **Location:** This setting can be found in different places depending on the BIOS version, but look for it under these sections:
* `AI Tweaker` -> `CPU Core Ratio` or `CPU Configuration`
* `Advanced` -> `CPU Configuration`
* **Setting:** Disable "ASUS MultiCore Enhancement" (MCE) or any similar setting that automatically overclocks the CPU. This forces the CPU to adhere to Intel's official specifications. Set "CPU Core Ratio" to "Auto" or "Sync All Cores" and then set the "All Core Ratio Limit" to the maximum Turbo Boost frequency specified by Intel for your i5-14600KF (usually around 5.1 GHz or 5.3 GHz, depending on the specific model).
* **Explanation:** MCE often overvolts and overclocks the CPU, leading to significantly higher temperatures. Disabling it ensures the CPU runs within its intended power and thermal limits.

4. **Adjust CPU Core Voltage (Vcore):**

* **Location:** `AI Tweaker` -> `CPU Core/Cache Voltage` or `CPU SVID Behavior`
* **Setting:**
* **Option 1 (Offset Mode):** Set the "CPU Core Voltage" or "CPU SVID Behavior" to "Offset Mode." Then, apply a *negative* offset voltage. Start with a small negative offset, like -0.05V or -0.025V. Test for stability. If stable, gradually increase the negative offset (e.g., -0.075V, -0.1V) until you find the lowest voltage that remains stable under load.
* **Option 2 (Adaptive Mode):** Some BIOSes have "Adaptive Mode." This allows the voltage to scale up or down based on the CPU load. You can try applying a negative offset in this mode as well.
* **Option 3 (Manual Mode - Not Recommended Initially):** Avoid setting a fixed manual voltage unless you are very experienced with overclocking. It can lead to instability or damage if set incorrectly.
* **Explanation:** The CPU often receives more voltage than it actually needs. Reducing the voltage (undervolting) can significantly lower temperatures without sacrificing performance (as long as it remains stable). The "Offset Mode" allows the voltage to fluctuate based on the CPU's needs, while the offset you set is applied on top of the default voltage curve.

5. **Adjust Load-Line Calibration (LLC):**

* **Location:** `AI Tweaker` -> `Load-Line Calibration`
* **Setting:** LLC compensates for voltage droop under load. Experiment with different LLC levels. Start with a lower LLC setting (e.g., Level 1 or Level 2 on a scale of 1-7 or 1-8). Higher LLC settings can increase voltage and temperatures. The goal is to find a setting that provides stable voltage under load without excessive overshoot. "Auto" is often a good starting point.
* **Explanation:** LLC helps maintain a stable voltage when the CPU is under heavy load. However, aggressive LLC settings can actually *increase* voltage and heat.

6. **Power Limits (PL1, PL2):**

* **Location:** `AI Tweaker` -> `CPU Power Management` or `Internal CPU Power Management`
* **Setting:**
* **Long Duration Package Power Limit (PL1):** Set this to the Intel-specified TDP for your i5-14600KF (usually 125W).
* **Short Duration Package Power Limit (PL2):** Set this to the Intel-specified maximum Turbo Power for your i5-14600KF (check Intel's specifications, but it's often around 181W).
* **Package Power Time Window:** This is the amount of time the CPU can sustain PL2. Leave this at the default setting (usually a few seconds).
* **Explanation:** By default, many motherboards ignore Intel's power limits, allowing the CPU to draw significantly more power than it's designed for. Setting these limits ensures the CPU stays within its intended thermal envelope.

7. **CPU Fan Control:**

* **Location:** `Monitor` or `Q-Fan Control` (or similar)
* **Setting:** Make sure your CPU fan is set to a profile that ramps up the fan speed as the CPU temperature increases. "Turbo" or a custom fan curve is often a good choice. Ensure the fan is actually spinning and connected to the correct CPU fan header on the motherboard.
* **Explanation:** Proper fan control is crucial for dissipating heat.

8. **XMP Profile:**

* **Location:** `AI Tweaker`
* **Setting:** Enable your RAM's XMP profile. While this primarily affects RAM speed, it can sometimes indirectly impact CPU temperatures if the RAM is running at a higher voltage than the CPU expects. Ensure your RAM is compatible with your motherboard and CPU.

**Testing for Stability**

After making any changes to voltage or power limits, it's *essential* to test for stability. Use these tools:

* **Prime95:** A very demanding CPU stress test. Run the "Small FFTs" test for about 30 minutes to check for thermal issues. Run the "Blend" test for several hours (or overnight) to check for overall stability.
* **Cinebench R23/R24:** A benchmark that tests CPU performance. Run it multiple times to check for consistent scores and thermal throttling.
* **Intel XTU (Extreme Tuning Utility):** Provides real-time monitoring of CPU temperatures, voltages, and frequencies. It also has built-in stress tests.
* **HWMonitor or HWInfo64:** Excellent tools for monitoring temperatures, voltages, and fan speeds.

**Monitoring Temperatures**

Keep a close eye on your CPU temperatures during testing. Here are some guidelines:

* **Idle:** 30-45°C is typical.
* **Gaming:** 60-80°C is acceptable.
* **Stress Testing (Prime95):** Ideally, you want to stay below 90°C. If you're consistently hitting 95°C or higher, you need to make further adjustments or improve your cooling.

**Important Considerations:**

* **Silicon Lottery:** Every CPU is slightly different. Some CPUs require more voltage than others to achieve the same clock speed.
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DePalmo ::

mtosev je izjavil:

Imaš najnovejši bios? Tile procesorji so imeli težave zaradi overvoltage.

So? Kolikor vem imajo še vedno. Ali je bila vmes kakšna dejanska rešitev?

mtosev ::

Bios update naj bi rešil težavo. Vsaj tako sem jaz prebral.
Core i9 10900X, ASUS Prime X299 Edition 30, 32GB 4x8 3600Mhz G.skill, CM H500M,
ASUS ROG Strix RTX 2080 Super, Samsung 970 PRO, UltraSharp UP3017, Win 11 Pro,
Enermax Platimax 1700W | moj oče darko 1960-2016, moj labradorec max 2002-2013

mahone ::

https://ibb.co/3YBPz7xr
Izklopi Multicore pa probaj ce bo kaj drugace.