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Gospodarska kriza 2018
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branimirII ::
Truga ::
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ai...
Zaradi tarif morajo ameriski kmetje prodajat koruzo 44 centov pod ceno. Trump, garbage socjalist kakrsen je, je zdaj subvencioniral 1 cent. Kmetje so eden vecjih sektorjev v kar precej zveznih drzavah...
Zaradi tarif morajo ameriski kmetje prodajat koruzo 44 centov pod ceno. Trump, garbage socjalist kakrsen je, je zdaj subvencioniral 1 cent. Kmetje so eden vecjih sektorjev v kar precej zveznih drzavah...
microchip ::
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ai...
Zaradi tarif morajo ameriski kmetje prodajat koruzo 44 centov pod ceno. Trump, garbage socjalist kakrsen je, je zdaj subvencioniral 1 cent. Kmetje so eden vecjih sektorjev v kar precej zveznih drzavah...
A moramo jokat?
ZaphodBB ::
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ai...
Zaradi tarif morajo ameriski kmetje prodajat koruzo 44 centov pod ceno. Trump, garbage socjalist kakrsen je, je zdaj subvencioniral 1 cent. Kmetje so eden vecjih sektorjev v kar precej zveznih drzavah...
A maš že Trumpovo sliko na steni?
"Naši dedje so se borili za to, da lahko odločamo
o lastni usodi - ne o usodi drugih ljudi." -jype
o lastni usodi - ne o usodi drugih ljudi." -jype
Truga ::
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ai...
Zaradi tarif morajo ameriski kmetje prodajat koruzo 44 centov pod ceno. Trump, garbage socjalist kakrsen je, je zdaj subvencioniral 1 cent. Kmetje so eden vecjih sektorjev v kar precej zveznih drzavah...
A moramo jokat?
zdaj se jim lahko smejis dvojno. koncno bojo sli v zasluzen stecaj, in se rogas se jim lahko ker so welfare queeni.
microchip ::
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ai...
Zaradi tarif morajo ameriski kmetje prodajat koruzo 44 centov pod ceno. Trump, garbage socjalist kakrsen je, je zdaj subvencioniral 1 cent. Kmetje so eden vecjih sektorjev v kar precej zveznih drzavah...
A moramo jokat?
zdaj se jim lahko smejis dvojno. koncno bojo sli v zasluzen stecaj, in se rogas se jim lahko ker so welfare queeni.
Vprašal sem, če morem jokat ker Trump ni nacionalni socialist?
3p ::
Truga ::
Invictus ::
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V 17 stoletju se je islam čudežno spremenil iz religije miru v nasilje? Morda bi nasedel kdo ki ne ve od kje izvirajo križarji, ki ne ve nič o temu koliko sužnjev so muslimani pobrali iz Afrike, Italije, Madžarske... Nice try kiddo.Muslimani niso pobrali nikogar - katoliki so jih pomorili, potem pa trdili, da so jih odnesli muslimani.
Seveda so jih...
Saj je celotna ekonomija temeljila na sužnjih...
"Life is hard; it's even harder when you're stupid."
http://goo.gl/2YuS2x
http://goo.gl/2YuS2x
microchip ::
Vprašal sem, če morem jokat ker Trump ni nacionalni socialist?
kako ni?? fura blazno zunanjo politiko, in fura socializem za njegove izbrane ljudi, lol
Ne razumem, "zatira" lastne kmete, kako je potem naci? To so delali komiji v USSR. Trump je Stalin sploh če bo res zgradil Iron curtain.
microchip ::
ZaphodBB ::
mhm, the k in stalin stands for komunism
Neoliberalci imate zmeri neke bedne izgovore.
"Naši dedje so se borili za to, da lahko odločamo
o lastni usodi - ne o usodi drugih ljudi." -jype
o lastni usodi - ne o usodi drugih ljudi." -jype
gruntfürmich ::
Roubini & Rosa: Although the global economy has been undergoing a sustained period of synchronized growth, it will inevitably lose steam as unsustainable fiscal policies in the US start to phase out. Come 2020, the stage will be set for another downturn – and, unlike in 2008, governments will lack the policy tools to manage it.
Will lack the policy tools to manage it...
To verjetno misli na tiste lepe zadeve preteklih predsednikov, ki so debele denarce davkoplačevalcev zdevali za one propalice too big to fail, trump pa bi kot dober gospodar pustil propasti gnila jabolka?
"Namreč, da gre ta družba počasi v norost in da je vse, kar mi gledamo,
visoko organizirana bebavost, do podrobnosti izdelana idiotija."
Psiholog HUBERT POŽARNIK, v Oni, o smiselnosti moderne družbe...
visoko organizirana bebavost, do podrobnosti izdelana idiotija."
Psiholog HUBERT POŽARNIK, v Oni, o smiselnosti moderne družbe...
jype ::
ZaphodBB ::
Neoliberalci imate zmeri neke bedne izgovore.Obriši si no to peno z ust, pa kravato si malce razrahljaj, da se ne zadušiš.
Errr, to je cela poanta...
"Naši dedje so se borili za to, da lahko odločamo
o lastni usodi - ne o usodi drugih ljudi." -jype
o lastni usodi - ne o usodi drugih ljudi." -jype
3p ::
gruntfürmich je izjavil:
Will lack the policy tools to manage it...
To verjetno misli na tiste lepe zadeve preteklih predsednikov, ki so debele denarce davkoplačevalcev zdevali za one propalice too big to fail, trump pa bi kot dober gospodar pustil propasti gnila jabolka?
Tudi, ja.
"The space for fiscal stimulus is already limited by massive public debt. The possibility for more unconventional monetary policies will be limited by bloated balance sheets and the lack of headroom to cut policy rates. And financial-sector bailouts will be intolerable in countries with resurgent populist movements and near-insolvent governments."
Smrekar1 ::
wrong wrong wrong and super wrong
Papirnat denar (ali srebrni novci) nimajo vrednosti zato, ker vsi pristajamo na to, da jo imajo. Vrednost imajo zato, ker neka dovolj močna politična instanca (templji v Mezopotamiji, stari Egipt, nacionalne države danes) prisilijo ljudi, da neko stvar uporabljajo kot denar.
Papirnati denar so uporabljali že kitajci nekje v prvem stoletju našega štetja - ker je bila država dovolj močna in dovolj dobro organizirana, da je lahko to uveljavljala.
Malo manj slaven izum Kitajske je bila tudi hiperinflacija, do katere je prišlo, ker so visoke in močne inštance ljudi poskušale prisiliti, da bi sprejele ogromne količine tiskanega denarja.
Hyperinflation @ Wikipedia
Že v 14. stoletju so poznali hiperinflacijo. Tega ti razni "konfucijevi inštituti" ne bodo povedali.
Kaj se dogaja ko razne "močne politične inštance" ljudi poskušajo prisiliti, da nekaj uporabljajo kot denar, je kristalno jasno. Zimbabwe pred 10 leti in Venezuela danes sta dva tipčna primera.
Jao.
Denar je bil "ideja" že v najzgodnejši zgodovini starih civilizacij. Najprej je bil kredit "usluge", nato pa se je rojeval denar. Ki ga vsakodnevno nihče nikjer ni uporabljal, ker so ga imeli zaklenjenega v templjih. Služil je zgolj kot mera vrednosti za stvari. Bil je isti virtualni denar, kakor sedaj. Tudi po propadu zahodne polovice rimske države in izginotju njihovih novcev iz obtoka, so še stoletja v Evropi stvari preračunavali na rimski denar, čeprav ga generacije nikoli niso fizično videle, ker ga pač ni bilo.
Poglej si serijo videov zgoraj.
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Truga ::
https://twitter.com/ABC/status/10444376...
U.S. farmers will soon begin receiving government checks as part of a billion-dollar bailout to buoy growers experiencing financial strain from Pres. Trump's trade disputes with China.
Kot sem rekel, welfare queens. lmao
U.S. farmers will soon begin receiving government checks as part of a billion-dollar bailout to buoy growers experiencing financial strain from Pres. Trump's trade disputes with China.
Kot sem rekel, welfare queens. lmao
Mr.B ::
https://twitter.com/ABC/status/10444376...
U.S. farmers will soon begin receiving government checks as part of a billion-dollar bailout to buoy growers experiencing financial strain from Pres. Trump's trade disputes with China.
Kot sem rekel, welfare queens. lmao
Gel, ko amerika rabi dner, ga samo natiska
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Pac-Man ::
Še tu me boste trpeli.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-...
In a town where a 30-feet tall chair is the chief landmark, and which is synonymous with a U.S. furniture industry decimated over the years by imports from China, many greet the possibility of tariffs on Chinese goods with a shrug.
No wonder. Of three once bustling Thomasville furniture plants in the city limits, one is being demolished and cleared for parkland, another may become the site of a new police station, and a third is being converted into apartments.
...
At family-owned Bernhardt Furniture in Lenoir, some 90 miles west of Thomasville, executives say it would take about $30 million in capital investment - some 10 percent of annual sales - to resurrect standard wood furniture lines now mainly made in countries like China and Vietnam.
That is too much to commit based on a policy that a future administration could reverse.
“The theory is you turn (imports) off, the jobs come back. That’s not really true... The buildings don’t exist. The people don’t exist. The machinery does not exist,” to make the sorts of furniture that now gets imported, said Alex Bernhardt Jr., chief executive and the company founder’s great grandson.
What the company needs now, executives say, is the open markets and steady economy that have allowed it to grow its workforce from below 800 at the end of the 2007-2009 recession to almost 1,500 today - partly on the basis of exports to China.
That growth has been largely driven by demand for more customized, higher end furniture. In expanding, the 129-year-old company has been hiring not only factory workers, but also designers, marketing experts and other professionals.
...
Economists say the same is true across much of U.S. manufacturing. To invest and hire more workers, executives would need certainty, for example, that consumers would prefer U.S.-made products at a potentially higher price. They would need confidence that tariffs would last beyond the Trump administration and that production could not be shifted to other more cost-competitive countries.
Even then, there may be little incentive to go back to old product lines for industries that have changed dramatically because of globalization.
Across the Rust Belt and the former factory towns of the south, the transformation is apparent. In Buffalo, an old steel mill is now a solar panel factory, and a retail goods manufacturer now houses an office and restaurant park.
...
Some companies are considering moving production from China as a result of the tariffs, but the jobs are unlikely to head home.
Illinois-based CCTY Bearing, for example, said it planned to move U.S.-bound production from Zhenjiang, China, to a new plant near Mumbai in India to keep labor costs down.
JLab Audio’s China-made Bluetooth products are not being taxed yet, but its chief executive Win Cramer had been scouting for suppliers in Vietnam and Mexico.
...
The price of, say, its Bluetooth earbud would jump from $20 to as much as $50 if it was made in the United States, Cramer said, far more than what tariffs would add to the cost of imports.
To be sure, early reactions suggest that foreign companies that make U.S.-bound goods in China may move some of that production to the United States. Still, countries such as Vietnam may ultimately benefit the most from Trump’s tariffs.
...
In Thomasville, few expect that tariffs will bring furniture manufacturing back to its heyday, nor does the community need it, says city manager Kelly Craver, whose parents worked in the furniture and textile industries.
Since the recession, Thomasville has become a residential hub for growing nearby cities such as Greensboro and Charlotte. It also has its own mix of manufacturing and white collar jobs. Mohawk Industries (MHK.N) recently expanded its Thomasville laminate flooring facility while the Old Dominion Freight Line transportation firm (ODFL.O) and the fast-growing Cook Out burger chain have corporate headquarters there.
“We, for the very first time in this city’s existence, are going to have a diversified economy,” Craver said.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-...
In a town where a 30-feet tall chair is the chief landmark, and which is synonymous with a U.S. furniture industry decimated over the years by imports from China, many greet the possibility of tariffs on Chinese goods with a shrug.
No wonder. Of three once bustling Thomasville furniture plants in the city limits, one is being demolished and cleared for parkland, another may become the site of a new police station, and a third is being converted into apartments.
...
At family-owned Bernhardt Furniture in Lenoir, some 90 miles west of Thomasville, executives say it would take about $30 million in capital investment - some 10 percent of annual sales - to resurrect standard wood furniture lines now mainly made in countries like China and Vietnam.
That is too much to commit based on a policy that a future administration could reverse.
“The theory is you turn (imports) off, the jobs come back. That’s not really true... The buildings don’t exist. The people don’t exist. The machinery does not exist,” to make the sorts of furniture that now gets imported, said Alex Bernhardt Jr., chief executive and the company founder’s great grandson.
What the company needs now, executives say, is the open markets and steady economy that have allowed it to grow its workforce from below 800 at the end of the 2007-2009 recession to almost 1,500 today - partly on the basis of exports to China.
That growth has been largely driven by demand for more customized, higher end furniture. In expanding, the 129-year-old company has been hiring not only factory workers, but also designers, marketing experts and other professionals.
...
Economists say the same is true across much of U.S. manufacturing. To invest and hire more workers, executives would need certainty, for example, that consumers would prefer U.S.-made products at a potentially higher price. They would need confidence that tariffs would last beyond the Trump administration and that production could not be shifted to other more cost-competitive countries.
Even then, there may be little incentive to go back to old product lines for industries that have changed dramatically because of globalization.
Across the Rust Belt and the former factory towns of the south, the transformation is apparent. In Buffalo, an old steel mill is now a solar panel factory, and a retail goods manufacturer now houses an office and restaurant park.
...
Some companies are considering moving production from China as a result of the tariffs, but the jobs are unlikely to head home.
Illinois-based CCTY Bearing, for example, said it planned to move U.S.-bound production from Zhenjiang, China, to a new plant near Mumbai in India to keep labor costs down.
JLab Audio’s China-made Bluetooth products are not being taxed yet, but its chief executive Win Cramer had been scouting for suppliers in Vietnam and Mexico.
...
The price of, say, its Bluetooth earbud would jump from $20 to as much as $50 if it was made in the United States, Cramer said, far more than what tariffs would add to the cost of imports.
To be sure, early reactions suggest that foreign companies that make U.S.-bound goods in China may move some of that production to the United States. Still, countries such as Vietnam may ultimately benefit the most from Trump’s tariffs.
...
In Thomasville, few expect that tariffs will bring furniture manufacturing back to its heyday, nor does the community need it, says city manager Kelly Craver, whose parents worked in the furniture and textile industries.
Since the recession, Thomasville has become a residential hub for growing nearby cities such as Greensboro and Charlotte. It also has its own mix of manufacturing and white collar jobs. Mohawk Industries (MHK.N) recently expanded its Thomasville laminate flooring facility while the Old Dominion Freight Line transportation firm (ODFL.O) and the fast-growing Cook Out burger chain have corporate headquarters there.
“We, for the very first time in this city’s existence, are going to have a diversified economy,” Craver said.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
Ma imamo tudi govorice in špekulacije.
https://twitter.com/svdate/status/10446...
Trump is about to get a spending bill with no wall money. Again.
He is likely to sign it. Again.
https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/statu...
Just a note to you Trump supporters: this is not how you do conservative economic policy. Not even a little.
https://twitter.com/jennydemilo/status/...
Another local dairy farm by me just listed selling their whole herd of 120 cows.
They are going out of business-they absolutely blame the president and his trade policy -IN RUAL F’ING MD these are people in the only red part of my state.
Trade wars are easy right?
https://twitter.com/evansiegfried/statu...
Virginia voter registration stats for 2018 so far:
172,116 new voter regs.
101,491 in 2014 & 89,975 in 2010
106,401 of new regs are under 35
In 2017, young voter turnout was highest in state history. 2018 likely higher.
https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/statu...
Note to my Dem friends: the Qpoll in FL is notoriously noisy on both sides. Grain of salt.
That said, Gillum is likely ahead +3-5 based on overall averages.
Maybe "But Socialism!" isn't the genius killshot people thought.
https://twitter.com/svdate/status/10446...
Trump is about to get a spending bill with no wall money. Again.
He is likely to sign it. Again.
Just a note to you Trump supporters: this is not how you do conservative economic policy. Not even a little.
U.S. farmers will soon begin receiving government checks as part of a billion-dollar bailout to buoy growers experiencing financial strain from Pres. Trump's trade disputes with China.
https://twitter.com/jennydemilo/status/...
Another local dairy farm by me just listed selling their whole herd of 120 cows.
They are going out of business-they absolutely blame the president and his trade policy -IN RUAL F’ING MD these are people in the only red part of my state.
Trade wars are easy right?
https://twitter.com/evansiegfried/statu...
Virginia voter registration stats for 2018 so far:
172,116 new voter regs.
101,491 in 2014 & 89,975 in 2010
106,401 of new regs are under 35
In 2017, young voter turnout was highest in state history. 2018 likely higher.
https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/statu...
Note to my Dem friends: the Qpoll in FL is notoriously noisy on both sides. Grain of salt.
That said, Gillum is likely ahead +3-5 based on overall averages.
Maybe "But Socialism!" isn't the genius killshot people thought.
Florida governor's race
Andrew Gillum (D) 54
Ron DeSantis (R) 45
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Zheegec ::
Just a note to you Trump supporters: this is not how you do conservative economic policy. Not even a little.
Trump & Ryan & McConnell (trenutni voditelji Republikancev in USA) so en najboljših primerov "conservative economic policy". Znižaj davke, povečaj državno porabo. Ko bi državno porabo povečali vsaj za kaj uporabnega...
"božja zapoved pravi; <Spoštuj očeta in mater>,
ne govori pa o spoštovanju sodstva."
Janez Janša, 29.04.2014
ne govori pa o spoštovanju sodstva."
Janez Janša, 29.04.2014
gruntfürmich ::
Sse mi zdi da se dežurni prognostiki posledic odločitev trumpa zelo zabavajo, pozabijo pa po njihovi stari navadi pogledat vse pretekle popolnoma zgrešene halucinacije, ki kažejo na popolnoma popačeno sliko njihove realnosti...
"Namreč, da gre ta družba počasi v norost in da je vse, kar mi gledamo,
visoko organizirana bebavost, do podrobnosti izdelana idiotija."
Psiholog HUBERT POŽARNIK, v Oni, o smiselnosti moderne družbe...
visoko organizirana bebavost, do podrobnosti izdelana idiotija."
Psiholog HUBERT POŽARNIK, v Oni, o smiselnosti moderne družbe...
gruntfürmich ::
Sse mi zdi da se dežurni prognostiki posledic odločitev trumpa zelo zabavajo, pozabijo pa po njihovi stari navadi pogledat vse pretekle popolnoma zgrešene halucinacije, ki kažejo na popolnoma popačeno sliko njihove realnosti...
"Namreč, da gre ta družba počasi v norost in da je vse, kar mi gledamo,
visoko organizirana bebavost, do podrobnosti izdelana idiotija."
Psiholog HUBERT POŽARNIK, v Oni, o smiselnosti moderne družbe...
visoko organizirana bebavost, do podrobnosti izdelana idiotija."
Psiholog HUBERT POŽARNIK, v Oni, o smiselnosti moderne družbe...
c3p0 ::
Nah, cedila sta se med in mleko.
Tebe ali tvoje bellingcate in podobno solato?
Še tu me boste trpeli.
Tebe ali tvoje bellingcate in podobno solato?
Zgodovina sprememb…
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Mr.B ::
Pričakovano, ampak Trump gre na dolgi rok...
The metals tariffs took about $1 billion in profit from us -- and the irony is we source most of that in the U.S. today anyways," Hackett said in an interview on Bloomberg
The metals tariffs took about $1 billion in profit from us -- and the irony is we source most of that in the U.S. today anyways," Hackett said in an interview on Bloomberg
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Truga ::
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-...
The week's events were not just consistent with the good times scenario both Powell and U.S. President Donald Trump have laid out. They validated it, and in doing so pointed to a U.S. economy that may be starting to work more like it used to.lmao
Spajky ::
... ko amerika rabi dner, ga samo natiska.. in pri nas se pa vlade zadolžijo pri takih in podobnih, zato da se približamo idealu : trošimo, saj bodo itak otroci/vnuki/raja/(vstavi poljubno) v prihodnosti namesto nas plačali, tako ali drugače ...
"Bluzim na forumu, torej sem !" (še živ ) ...
Mr.B ::
... ko amerika rabi dner, ga samo natiska.. in pri nas se pa vlade zadolžijo pri takih in podobnih, zato da se približamo idealu : trošimo, saj bodo itak otroci/vnuki/raja/(vstavi poljubno) v prihodnosti namesto nas plačali, tako ali drugače ...
Zgubil si missel, ker pač si kopiral samo tisti del, kar je na tvojem razumskem nivoju razumljivo. FAk the USA al nekaj takega... ter potem neke slovenske bla bla bla. Danes sem bral na Siolu, da brez fasade in ograje ne boš dobil števillke.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
kow ::
... ko amerika rabi dner, ga samo natiska.. in pri nas se pa vlade zadolžijo pri takih in podobnih, zato da se približamo idealu : trošimo, saj bodo itak otroci/vnuki/raja/(vstavi poljubno) v prihodnosti namesto nas plačali, tako ali drugače ...
Slabo si informiran. Slovenci smo relativno malo zadolzeni.
Zheegec ::
Sem že pozabil, kje sem videl številke za Slovenijo. Kolikor se spomnim, smo slovenci noro visoko zadolženi. Prav tako tudi američani in cel kup drugih.
Seveda govorim o najbolj problematičnem dolgu - dolgu pravnih in fizičnih oseb. Največji problem slovenskega državnega dolga je v tem, da je v tuji valuti (Evro), ampak kljub temu državni dolg sam po sebi ni problematičen.
Seveda govorim o najbolj problematičnem dolgu - dolgu pravnih in fizičnih oseb. Največji problem slovenskega državnega dolga je v tem, da je v tuji valuti (Evro), ampak kljub temu državni dolg sam po sebi ni problematičen.
"božja zapoved pravi; <Spoštuj očeta in mater>,
ne govori pa o spoštovanju sodstva."
Janez Janša, 29.04.2014
ne govori pa o spoštovanju sodstva."
Janez Janša, 29.04.2014
Mr.B ::
Sem že pozabil, kje sem videl številke za Slovenijo. Kolikor se spomnim, smo slovenci noro visoko zadolženi. Prav tako tudi američani in cel kup drugih.
Seveda govorim o najbolj problematičnem dolgu - dolgu pravnih in fizičnih oseb. Največji problem slovenskega državnega dolga je v tem, da je v tuji valuti (Evro), ampak kljub temu državni dolg sam po sebi ni problematičen.
A ce bi bil v tolarjih, bi bilo kaj bolje ?
Problem slovenije je, da je njen bdp bolj ali manj odvisenj zgolj od tega kar prodamo ven. Ko prodati ne moremo se samo implodira. Ta izpostavljenost je bistveno visja kot leta 2008.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Zheegec ::
A ce bi bil v tolarjih, bi bilo kaj bolje ?
Pa seveda. Nemci, ki nadzorujejo Evro, se še vedno borijo proti inflaciji, ki ne obstaja že desetletja. Celo pri našem (malo čudnem) merjenju inflacije je inflacija nizka in to kljub vsem biljonom (cca 7 biljonov €), ki smo jih dali bankam in bi po vsej "standardni" gospodarski logiki morali voditi do inflacije cene splošnih produktov v trgovinah.
"božja zapoved pravi; <Spoštuj očeta in mater>,
ne govori pa o spoštovanju sodstva."
Janez Janša, 29.04.2014
ne govori pa o spoštovanju sodstva."
Janez Janša, 29.04.2014
Mr.B ::
A ce bi bil v tolarjih, bi bilo kaj bolje ?
Pa seveda. Nemci, ki nadzorujejo Evro, se še vedno borijo proti inflaciji, ki ne obstaja že desetletja. Celo pri našem (malo čudnem) merjenju inflacije je inflacija nizka in to kljub vsem biljonom (cca 7 biljonov €), ki smo jih dali bankam in bi po vsej "standardni" gospodarski logiki morali voditi do inflacije cene splošnih produktov v trgovinah.
7 mijard je slo zato, ker so se komunisti vali svojih zapitkov. No slo je samo v drugo malho, rece se ji dupe. Za inflacijo no najprej je treba zapravljat, verjetno je kriva kitajska.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Zheegec ::
7 mijard je slo zato, ker so se komunisti vali svojih zapitkov
"Komunisti", kot na primer Deutsche Bank? O katerih komunistih ti govoriš?
No slo je samo v drugo malho, rece se ji dupe
Katero malho, kje, kdaj, link?
Za inflacijo no najprej je treba zapravljat, verjetno je kriva kitajska.
Ne vem, če veš kaj je to inflacija?
"božja zapoved pravi; <Spoštuj očeta in mater>,
ne govori pa o spoštovanju sodstva."
Janez Janša, 29.04.2014
ne govori pa o spoštovanju sodstva."
Janez Janša, 29.04.2014
Mr.B ::
7 mijard je slo zato, ker so se komunisti vali svojih zapitkov
"Komunisti", kot na primer Deutsche Bank? O katerih komunistih ti govoriš?
No slo je samo v drugo malho, rece se ji dupe
Katero malho, kje, kdaj, link?
Za inflacijo no najprej je treba zapravljat, verjetno je kriva kitajska.
Ne vem, če veš kaj je to inflacija?
Se strinjam, ko boš vedel na v EU govorimo o mijardahin ne biljonih in da 7 mijard , no verjetno si pozabil prišteti še kakšne mijarde, potem se bova pogovarjala dalje... Prav tako ne rezumeš, da za to da dupe vzame slabi kredit NLB, mora denar dati država, ja v bistvi ti imaš malo težave osnov...torej je pogovor s tabo nekako tako, kot trump volilec, za lačne matere samohranilke so krivi begunci, no muslimanski teroristi, če ti je to lažje
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Zheegec ::
Se strinjam, ko boš vedel na v EU govorimo o mijardahin ne biljonih in da 7 mijard
Evropski QE je bil okoli ~30 miljard EUR na mesec (sedaj ~15 miljard EUR), vse skupaj okoli 7 biljonov EUR (če štejemo še QE, ki so jih Evropske mednarodne banke dobile of Fed in BOJ).
Do konca leta 2015 smo globalno vrgli okoli $12 biljonov ($12 trillion) v QE, sedaj je seveda ta številka še večja.. https://www.cnbc.com/2016/06/13/12-tril...
Ko boš vedel, da v EU govorimo o biljonih in ne miljardah, se pa bova pogovarjala dalje.
"božja zapoved pravi; <Spoštuj očeta in mater>,
ne govori pa o spoštovanju sodstva."
Janez Janša, 29.04.2014
ne govori pa o spoštovanju sodstva."
Janez Janša, 29.04.2014
kow ::
Sem že pozabil, kje sem videl številke za Slovenijo. Kolikor se spomnim, smo slovenci noro visoko zadolženi. Prav tako tudi američani in cel kup drugih.
Seveda govorim o najbolj problematičnem dolgu - dolgu pravnih in fizičnih oseb. Največji problem slovenskega državnega dolga je v tem, da je v tuji valuti (Evro), ampak kljub temu državni dolg sam po sebi ni problematičen.
Skratka ne ves niti stevilk, in bluzis po forumih.
Zheegec ::
Za Slovenijo je težje najti dobre statistike na Googlu, za večje države to ni problem. Moram najti članek, prebral sem ga v enem od fizičnih časopisov. V glavnem, dolg države same (cca ~80%) bi bil neobstoječ problem, če bi bil v lastni valuti. Ker je v tuji valuti ni čisto tako, ampak še vedno ni velik problem.
"božja zapoved pravi; <Spoštuj očeta in mater>,
ne govori pa o spoštovanju sodstva."
Janez Janša, 29.04.2014
ne govori pa o spoštovanju sodstva."
Janez Janša, 29.04.2014
Mr.B ::
Za Slovenijo je težje najti dobre statistike na Googlu, za večje države to ni problem. Moram najti članek, prebral sem ga v enem od fizičnih časopisov. V glavnem, dolg države same (cca ~80%) bi bil neobstoječ problem, če bi bil v lastni valuti. Ker je v tuji valuti ni čisto tako, ampak še vedno ni velik problem.
Za namig, zakaj teh podatkov ne najdes... cnbc je ameriski medij, tam je enota za mijardo biljon. Podatki so jasni, ze lahko samo ugotovis koliko je slo iz proracuna v dupe in koliko jansevih kadrov , ki jih je v svojem mandatu nastavil v nlb, preselilo v dupe
, zato pa imas na dnevnem nivoju sedaj dupe afere. France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Zheegec ::
Za namig, zakaj teh podatkov ne najdes... cnbc je ameriski medij, tam je enota za mijardo biljon
In kaj je "trillion" ($12 trillion of QE)? Se moramo res iti te neumnosti? Če na hitro pišem, se mi dostikrat zgodi napaka iz eng v slo številke. Ti si se pa ravno na to obesil, pa dal sem ti link, pa še vedno samo ugotavljaš, da je angleški "billion" enako, kot "miljarda", naslov linkanega članka je pa zelo očitno "$13 trillion". Zadnja runda QE centralne banke (ECB) je bila 2,4 biljonov EUR - https://www.express.co.uk/finance/city/...
Podatki so jasni
O katerih podatkih sploh govoriš?
ze lahko samo ugotovis koliko je slo iz proracuna v dupe in koliko jansevih kadrov , ki jih je v svojem mandatu nastavil v nlb, preselilo v dupe:)), zato pa imas na dnevnem nivoju sedaj dupe afere.
Kaj pomeni "dupe" (kratica za kakšen finančni vzvod?) in kaj točno je tvoj argument? Pa jaz govorim o vseh EU bankah, ne samo NLB. Sploh Deutsche Bank je tukaj velik krivec.
"božja zapoved pravi; <Spoštuj očeta in mater>,
ne govori pa o spoštovanju sodstva."
Janez Janša, 29.04.2014
ne govori pa o spoštovanju sodstva."
Janez Janša, 29.04.2014
Mr.B ::
Za namig, zakaj teh podatkov ne najdes... cnbc je ameriski medij, tam je enota za mijardo biljon
In kaj je "trillion" ($12 trillion of QE)? Se moramo res iti te neumnosti? Če na hitro pišem, se mi dostikrat zgodi napaka iz eng v slo številke. Ti si se pa ravno na to obesil, pa dal sem ti link, pa še vedno samo ugotavljaš, da je angleški "billion" enako, kot "miljarda", naslov linkanega članka je pa zelo očitno "$13 trillion". Zadnja runda QE centralne banke (ECB) je bila 2,4 biljonov EUR - https://www.express.co.uk/finance/city/...
Podatki so jasni
O katerih podatkih sploh govoriš?
ze lahko samo ugotovis koliko je slo iz proracuna v dupe in koliko jansevih kadrov , ki jih je v svojem mandatu nastavil v nlb, preselilo v dupe:)), zato pa imas na dnevnem nivoju sedaj dupe afere.
Kaj pomeni "dupe" (kratica za kakšen finančni vzvod?) in kaj točno je tvoj argument? Pa jaz govorim o vseh EU bankah, ne samo NLB. Sploh Deutsche Bank je tukaj velik krivec.
A sedaj si iz biljonov presaltal na triljone, ker je ka metricna enota enaka. Ps uk uporablja mije, oziroms no ne vem verjetno so do izhoda na priporocilih eu metricnega imperialnega sistema, potem bodo sli pa verjetno nazaj.Zaro tudi tam uporabljajo bijon namesto mijardo. Lol...
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
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