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windigo ::

Medtem v ta drugi bananarepubljik. Resnica pač ni za plebs. Kaj vam bo resnica, če imate bulšit.



Ampak celo postmodernitsti, ki so "presegli" univerzalnost in univerzalne vrednote in trdijo, da resnice niso absolutne ampak pogojene s skupnostjo, izhajajo iz skupnosti, ne povedo kaj dosti o odnosu med resnico in skupnostjo, torej kaj se zgodi, ko skupnost ostane brez (skupne) resnice. Ali lahko skupnost brez resnice sploh obstane, ali nujno razpade na dve ali več skupnosti / resnic.

Meni se zdi bolj verjetno, da nas bodo fentali razni PR mojstri, ki jih ni sram lagati, ki jim ni problem reči česarkoli za trenutni kratkoročni efekt in niso in se niti ne rabijo trudit biti zadosti brihtni, da bi ostali konsistentni v svojih lažeh, ker se lahko vedno obrnejo na naše strahove in naše udobje in privilegije. Ampak dolgoročno bi morali ostati konsistentni, to dobro vejo religije, ki v to vlagajo velik trud, sicer jim bo to prej ali slej eksplodiralo nazaj v glavo.

ADIJOOO1 ::

Samo 2 možnosti sta kdo je zastrupil Skripala in njegovo Hčer ali je to MI6 ali CIA. Po možnosti je tzudi, da je eden od teh dveh organizacij naročnik drugi pa izvajalec.

Pac-Man ::

Lahko našteješ ljudi, ki sta jih do sedaj zastrupili MI6 in CIA?
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Poldi112 ::

No, Castrota so že hoteli, samo jim ni uspelo. To ne šteje?
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.

Samuel ::

Poldi112 je izjavil:

No, Castrota so že hoteli, samo jim ni uspelo. To ne šteje?


Če bi hotel Castra mrtvega, bi to tudi bil.
If you notice this notice, you will notice that this notice is
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Poldi112 ::

O, lej ga, pravljičar. A ni mal zgodaj za sanje?
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.

Samuel ::

Poldi112 je izjavil:

O, lej ga, pravljičar. A ni mal zgodaj za sanje?


Castro je umrl 2016. Prepozno, ne prezgodaj...
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noticably not worth noticing.

windigo ::

638 Ways to kill Castro

Samuel ::

windigo je izjavil:

638 Ways to kill Castro



Lepo te prosim. Koliko si star?? Tri leta, da verjameš tole...
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Pac-Man ::

Poldi112 je izjavil:

No, Castrota so že hoteli, samo jim ni uspelo. To ne šteje?


Šteje.

Torej v 60ih so hoteli zastrupit Castra. Še kdo?
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

windigo ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Še kdo?

Operacija Condor.

Drone Assasination Program.

Cervantes ::

Ne, CIA nikoli ni hotela ubiti ali ubila nikogar.
Kdor trdi drugače, laže.
:))

Samuel ::

Cervantes je izjavil:

Ne, CIA nikoli ni hotela ubiti ali ubila nikogar.
Kdor trdi drugače, laže.:))


Lažeš in zavajaš. Kot vedno.
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noticably not worth noticing.

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Mr.B ::

Samuel je izjavil:

Cervantes je izjavil:

Ne, CIA nikoli ni hotela ubiti ali ubila nikogar.
Kdor trdi drugače, laže.:))


Lažeš in zavajaš. Kot vedno.

Teroriste, druzine teroristov ter njihove otroke, se enako tretira kot diktatorje. Ergo se temu ne reče, da je kdo dal ubiti koga...
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold

xxxul ::

Cervantes je izjavil:

Ne, CIA nikoli ni hotela ubiti ali ubila nikogar.
Kdor trdi drugače, laže.
:))

ampak, ampak, .... CIA je good guy, vse k so oni potamanili so si zaslužl.
Še collateral žrtve so si zaslužle, če CIA ne ve pa že žrtve vejo zakaj.

Samuel irelevantna in neargumentirana žalitev incoming 3.2.1...

Cervantes ::

Samuel je izjavil:

Cervantes je izjavil:

Ne, CIA nikoli ni hotela ubiti ali ubila nikogar.
Kdor trdi drugače, laže.:))


Lažeš in zavajaš. Kot vedno.

Bedno. Kot vedno.

nsa_ag3nt ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Lahko našteješ ljudi, ki sta jih do sedaj zastrupili MI6 in CIA?

Cia
1951 Pont-Saint-Esprit mass poisoning @ Wikipedia

ZDA vlada
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/gover...

ZDA mornarica
Operation Sea-Spray @ Wikipedia


btw, tale novičuk je nekako čuden (taista zadeva, ki naj bi v 30 sekundah lahko pomorila 500 ljudi), da lahko modela potem še 4 ure hodita po mestu, hčerki se je vid izboljšal, nekdo je zadnje dni dostopal do njenega vk računa.
Ruskemu konzulu dostopa do obeh ne omogočijo.
Vse skupaj se bere kot false flag, ki vsak dan bolj razpada v lažeh.
https://gizmodo.com/c/goodbye-big-five

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Cervantes ::

In policaji so tri dni hodili not in ven iz te bajte, ne da bi se dotaknili kontaminirane kljuke.
Fenomenalno.

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Cervantes ::

Upam, da je cilj tega scama res samo zyebat fuzbal v Rusiji.
Sicer smo ga vsi...

nsa_ag3nt ::

Ta policaj je ziher napol rus, da novičuk nanj ne učinkuje.
https://gizmodo.com/c/goodbye-big-five

Pac-Man ::

windigo je izjavil:

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Še kdo?

Operacija Condor.

Drone Assasination Program.

Skripal je bil zastrupljen.

Iščemo specifično zastrupitve.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

nsa_ag3nt ::

Kot pove ex direktor obveščevane službe NATIV Yakov Kedmi - za sankcije sploh ni potreben razlog - Zahod je napadel Rusko Federacijo in je z njo v vojni.
Uporablja vse možne metode - tudi uredniške politike medijev v državah, ki jih obvladujejo z isiljevanjem in grožnjami....
https://gizmodo.com/c/goodbye-big-five

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Pac-Man ::

Cervantes je izjavil:

Ne, CIA nikoli ni hotela ubiti ali ubila nikogar.
Kdor trdi drugače, laže.
:))


Nisem napisal, da ni nikogar ubila. Ampak zanima me, koga je zastrupila.

Se je pa pred leti zgodila neko malo čiščenje hiše in reforma.

Church Committee @ Wikipedia

The Church Committee was the United States Senate Select Committee to Study Governmental Operations with Respect to Intelligence Activities, a U.S. Senate committee chaired by Idaho Senator Frank Church (D-ID) in 1975. The committee investigated abuses by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), National Security Agency (NSA), Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), and the Internal Revenue Service (IRS). The committee was part of a series of investigations into intelligence abuses during the mid-1970s, including the Watergate Hearings, the Rockefeller Commission, and the Pike Committee. One result of the committee's efforts was the establishment of the permanent U.S. Senate Select Committee on Intelligence.

nsa_ag3nt je izjavil:



Spet nikogar ciljno eliminiranega.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

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Pac-Man ::

nsa_ag3nt je izjavil:

Kot pove ex direktor obveščevane službe NATIV Yakov Kedmi

Bwahahahaha.

https://www.haaretz.com/.premium-where-...

In late September 2002, Israeli businessman Yaakov Kedmi landed at a Moscow airport. Kedmi had once headed Nativ, the government agency for promoting immigration from the former Soviet Union

Troll harder.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Pac-Man ::

Ruski dopisnik za Telegraph.

https://twitter.com/ASLuhn/status/98152...

The foreign ministry spokeswoman is currently arguing that an 1885 article by Friedrich Engels accusing Russia of involvement in London bombings proves the Skripal poisoning is part of an anti-Russian smear campaign
More evidence the UK probably poisoned Skripal, according to the Russian foreign ministry: In 1867, Jules Verne wrote in the novel In Search of the Castaways that British colonists killed indigenous Australians with...POISON!
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Mr.B ::

Joj,
koliko ljudi umre naravno zaradi odpovedi srca :)). Pač stresno delo.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold

Smrekar1 ::

nsa_ag3nt je izjavil:


btw, tale novičuk je nekako čuden (taista zadeva, ki naj bi v 30 sekundah lahko pomorila 500 ljudi)


Leta 2004 je razlivanje divodikovega (I) oksida pobilo četrt milijona ljudi, večinoma v Indoneziji.


Posledice razlivanja divodikovega (I) oksida v provinci Banda Aceh, 2004.

Kljub temu lahko ljudje dobro toleriramo manjše količine te smrtno nevarne kemične substance in jo pogosto dodajamo hrani, zdravilom ...

Organofosfati in številni drugi bojni strupi so olja, ne plini. Na stotine pobije kot aerosol (majhne kapljice, suspendirane v zraku), dokler je nekje namazan in tega ne primeš z roko ali kakšnim drugim deloma telesa. Za razliko od filmov učinek ne bo takojšen, saj se mora strup raztopiti v koži. Ker gre za nepolarne interakcije in pasivno difuzijo to lahko traja ure in ure preden se razvijejo simptomi. Kot aerosol ima zadeva bolj filmski učinek. Če vlečeš življenjske odločitve na podlagi tega, kar vidiš v filmih in tretjerazrednih nanizankah (tu prednjači CSI) imam zate nekaj res ugodnih poslovnih ponudb, začneva lahko z mostom čez Ščavnico ...

windigo ::

Cervantes je izjavil:

Upam, da je cilj tega scama res samo zyebat fuzbal v Rusiji.

Če ne bodo ustavili Severnega toka 2, ne bodo naredili nič.

http://www.delo.si/svet/globalno/nemcij...

To se mi zdi trenutno najbolj zanimiva opredelitev znotraj EU. Kjer bi si lahko pribarantali tudi nemško podporo pri uveljavljanju arbitražne sodbe, ker hrvaška na to karto le težko (odkrito) igra. Smo pa v tej igri daleč za decimalko, odločale bodo recimo EEZ baltskih držav.

fikus_ ::

Če pustimo politiko USA-RF-GB in Skripal ob strani, če odločitev DE čisto gospodarske narave! Zakaj bi kupovali dražji USA plin, namesto Ruskega?! Preko političnih pritiskov skušajo USA sforsirati prodajo svojega dražjega plina DE in EU!

Smrekar1 ::

fikus_ je izjavil:

Zakaj bi kupovali dražji USA plin, namesto Ruskega?!


Ameriški plin ima ceno v evrih (ali dolarjih), ruski v truplih. Meni se zdi to dovolj dober razlog.

Cervantes ::

Smrekar1 je izjavil:

fikus_ je izjavil:

Zakaj bi kupovali dražji USA plin, namesto Ruskega?!


Ameriški plin ima ceno v evrih (ali dolarjih), ruski v truplih. Meni se zdi to dovolj dober razlog.

Kronski dokaz, da se modelu rola.

Mr.B ::

Smrekar1 je izjavil:

fikus_ je izjavil:

Zakaj bi kupovali dražji USA plin, namesto Ruskega?!


Ameriški plin ima ceno v evrih (ali dolarjih), ruski v truplih. Meni se zdi to dovolj dober razlog.

Seveda, ti samo povprašiaj bližnji vzhod, ene 800k jih je umrlo samo v iraku po drugi avanture amerike v iraku. Aja pozabil, so teroroisti, to se ne šteje.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold

Pac-Man ::

fikus_ je izjavil:

Če pustimo politiko USA-RF-GB in Skripal ob strani, če odločitev DE čisto gospodarske narave! Zakaj bi kupovali dražji USA plin, namesto Ruskega?! Preko političnih pritiskov skušajo USA sforsirati prodajo svojega dražjega plina DE in EU!


Ker je ruski plin cenejši samo, če imaš dostop do alternative ali pa si Rusija s tem kupuje geopolitične koristi.



Republikanka malo spitballa.

https://twitter.com/CheriJacobus/status...

+ Wondering if perhaps Stone was involved in orchestrating the email hackings and then having the emails "laundered" through WikiLeaks.
https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/...
Roger Stone, on the day he sent an email claiming he dined with Julian Assange, also predicted that “devastating” WikiLeaks documents about the Clinton Foundation would be disclosed

+ So it's not a stretch then to see how Stone and Trump could simply have arranged for anyone they thought was a threat to be hacked so that they could use personal info against that person.

- Is Stone actually smart enough to manage that? Serious question (maybe I'm underestimating him b/c he always looks so insane).

+ He's not smart enough to avoid being caught. Old timey criminal like "Red" in Shawshank Redemption. He can operate in his little pre-Trump POTUS world but on the outside (when this s**t gets real) he's in over his head. That Mueller hasn't yet talked to him is all u need to know.

+ Mueller also hasn't interviewed Lewandowski. Two key players. saved for last. If they aren't scared half to death then they are as stupid as I suspected they are. Especially Lewandowski.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Pac-Man ::

Sem šel skozi zadnji dan njenih tvitov. Zanimiva zbirka informacij.

https://twitter.com/CheriJacobus/status...
When Trump and Lewandowski defamed me and my lawyer sent a cease and desist letter, Trump campaign counsel Don McGahn said Trump would delete the tweets about me if I signed and NDA. I was going to sign, but they were taking a long time and the damage was done & during this process I discovered I was being "catfished" (fake group pretending to hire me) - I thought likely by Team Trump, so I backed out. I'm told McGahn freaked out.

https://twitter.com/CheriJacobus/status...
few weeks later as reporter was calling around to Team Trump about the "carfishing" of me (fake persona pretending to rep anti-Trump GOP donors wanting to hire me) my email was hacked. Catfishing began day I publicly confirmed WaPo report Trump had a superPAC in the primary lied.
https://twitter.com/Mediaite/status/981...


https://twitter.com/CheriJacobus/status...
If Stone has any money, he's hiding it. He rents in NYC and Florida. He likely knows how to ensure his assets can't be found for asset forfeiture or damages in lawsuits.
https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/roge...


Left field:
https://twitter.com/Rasputinish/status/...
According to a source close to poisoned Russian ex-spy Sergei Skripal, he was investigating Collusion between Internet Research Agency, AIQ, Cambridge Analytica & its parent, SCL in Brexit Referendum Campaign & Trump's Campaign 2016

https://twitter.com/TomKludt/status/981...
News here: a federal judge denied Bill O'Reilly's motion to seal settlement agreements with women who are suing him for defamation. This means that, for the first time, we get to see some of the terms of these agreements -- and some are pretty incredible. Perhaps the craziest detail: Andrea Mackris' attorney, Benedict Morelli, switched sides in the middle of negotiating her settlement and began representing O'Reilly. Andrea Mackris' settlement with O'Reilly also required her to lie, even in legal proceedings or under oath, if any evidence became public "by calling valid evidence 'counterfeit' or 'forgeries'". This is all part of a defamation lawsuit brought by multiple women who had settled with O'Reilly. According to today's filing, all plaintiffs were "forced to relinquish audio and video tapes recording O'Reilly's harassment and abuse."

https://twitter.com/Lawrence
Exclusive: last week lawyers considering joining Trump private defense team were told by their firms they’d have to quit the firms. The firms couldn’t stand the stink of Trump. The lawyers chose their firms over Trump.

https://twitter.com/CheriJacobus/status...
"A prominent media and entertainment litigator has moved to Ballard Spahr LLP as a partner after being told by Holland & Knight LLP that he could no longer represent journalists in matters directly adverse to President Donald Trump"
https://www.law360.com/articles/931189/...


https://twitter.com/jpodhoretz/status/9...
Whoa. Rudy and Judi divorcing.

https://twitter.com/ItZmeKatherine/stat...
Sometimes it's sensible for people implicated in a criminal probe to divorce in order to avoid asset seizure.
It's also sensible for women in close proximity to Donald Trump Jr or Rudy Giuliani to flee in horror, so who knows.

This is why Vanessa & Juniors divorce is so amicable. Secure assets until the storm blows over.


https://twitter.com/renato_mariotti/sta...
CNN reports that Mueller is stopping Russian oligarchs at airports and searching their electronic devices. He’s able to do that because courts have held that a warrant is not required for searches at the border. Savvy and aggressive move by him.
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/04/04/poli...


tweetstorm, click&read:
https://twitter.com/aliasvaughn/status/...

https://twitter.com/CheriJacobus/status...
FWIW once when I was at FOX they put me in the hair/makeup booths just off O'Reilly's green room. As he walked out of the other booth & thru the green room to his studio, staff made 2 lines as a "shield" so that no one could talk to him or bother him. I laughed till I cried😂

The 1st time I was on @BillOReilly's show was Feb 1998. I was an RNC spokesperson. I was on his show dozens of times before I was banned (the first time) for refusing to engage in a "catfight" (their word) w/ a female FOX contributor who wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer.


https://twitter.com/CheriJacobus/status...
this. absolutely this. It's why Rudy's been hiding out in Ukraine and strangely absent from the FOX News airwaves.👇
My guess is Rudy finally broke the news to her he’s headed to prison, most likely for his part in the FBI NY field office scandal that forced Comey into reopening the Hillary investigation right before the 2016 election.


https://twitter.com/RadioFreeTom/status...
I said at the start of this business: there was no way the Russians could have done all this without advice from people who understand American politics.

https://twitter.com/funder/status/98154...
Two Republicans close to the White House just told me Trump is not going to sit down with Robert Mueller. They add that he is still trying to figure out the right timing to fire Mueller. It’s not a matter of IF he will try to fire Mueller, it’s WHEN. Trump “already has a plan.”

https://twitter.com/funder/status/98159...
Erik Prince is linked to both Matt Gaetz & Dana Rohrabacher—a few months ago he hosted a fundraiser for Putin’s favorite Congressman Rohrabacher & Gaetz spoke. Mueller is likely investigating both GOP Reps for conspiring against the US. #TrumpRussia
https://www.forbes.com/return-of-erik-p...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Pac-Man ::

Medtem, ko eni MAGAjo in se drugi igrajo z raketami in bombami, tretji

The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Mr.B ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Medtem, ko eni MAGAjo in se drugi igrajo z raketami in bombami, tretji


When US wants to dominate, they send army to the country, level the field and thump the chest.
When China wants to dominate the world, they send engineers and money to the country and says hey, let's build some roads.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold

windigo ::

Mr.B je izjavil:

When China wants to dominate the world, they send engineers and money to the country and says hey, let's build some roads...

... and then they extend you the credit saying no worries until you are actually unable to pay it back and the country is theirs.

Pac-Man ::

Mr.B je izjavil:


Za ceste dajo posojila, ki jih države niso sposobne odplačevati. In nato v reprogramiranju dobijo pristanišče v 99-letni najem.
https://thediplomat.com/2017/12/sri-lan...
Ali pa morda malo ozemlja od sosede.
http://indiandefence.com/threads/is-thi...



RBKO stručko.

https://twitter.com/DanKaszeta/status/9...
Seems Russia just wants to rattle out the UK’s intelligence sources on the Novichok case so they can plug leaks and practice better opsec next time they commit murder in the UK.


https://twitter.com/DanKaszeta/status/9...
Thread on Novichoks and evidence and the like....

There seems to be an awful lot of tunnel vision and cherry picking of late, that seems to believe or want to believe that all the useful information is going to come from a lab at DSTL, aka "Porton Down". While the work that Porton has done and continues to do (there is doubtless a huge backlog of samples to get through) is important and relevant, it is only one piece of the pie. Conventional forensic evidence and basic police work are hugely important. It is not Porton Down that is processing conventional criminal evidence, nor should it be. Conventional evidence may very well be key here, like fingerprints, trace, DNA, CCTV, witness accounts, etc.

Likewise, intelligence sources are hugely important here. Demands to see secret intelligence are counterproductive and, indeed, destructive, as sources and methods should not be compromised. The USSR and (then) Russian chemical and biological research, production, and testing efforts have been the targets of Western intelligence agencies for 70 years. It is the height of folly to suggest that IMINT, COMINT, HUMINT, and (importantly in this area) MASINT have learned nothing of Soviet and thence Russian efforts in chemical warfare research. There are many ways in which the West may have gained information relevant to this case from classified intelligence sources. I can only speculate. And I won't too much lest I rumble a real intel op.

Additionally, the director of Porton Down clearly states that they were tasked with identifying the chemical, not with identifying its origin. As this is a critical point of information, this basically implies someone else has been asked to do this. Perhaps one of Britain's allies (while we still have them in the pre-Brexit world; in a year we may have none) has some better capabilities in this regard. I am, of course, only speculating.

Boris Johnson, well known for muddling up basic simple things like what the UK contributes to the EU, probably has muddled up his sources of information and spoken out of school. Not for the first time, and not the last. The overall picture must be compelling. Britain has convinced allies that are, actually, not terribly well disposed to help us at the moment, to expel Russian spies en masse.

As I doubt this was done based on a personal plea by Theresa May or Boris Johnson, both of whom are held widely in contempt, I am surmising that there is quite a good dossier going around. France, Germany, the USA, Canada, Australia all have very good people who work in chemical warfare defence and who may have been consulted.


https://twitter.com/DanKaszeta/status/9...
The Novichok (note spelling) family was developed for a number of reasons. There are a number of chemicals in this family. The most important reason for their development in the late 1970s and early 1980s is that they could not be detected by the existing detection and monitoring equipment in use by NATO/Western militaries at the time, such as the M8 chemical agent detector.

One of the Novichoks was developed because it remained liquid at cold temperatures instead of freezing. Of possible use in a country with lots of cold weather. Another was useful as a solid/powder. This made for the ability to evade detection regardless of its formula, due to its physical state, and made it possible to contaminate terrain and equipment in novel ways.

Of particular importance, feedstock chemicals for the Novichok agents were not on schedules 1, 2, or 3 of the CWC so that their production could be hidden from international arms control efforts.

It is rumoured that the physiological action of the Novichoks provides for long term nerve damage. An agent that provides long term debilitation when it does not kill drains the enemy's resources.

At no point in anything I've read, nor in any theoretical aspect I can grasp, is there any suggestion that atropine, the commonly used antidote, does not reduce the buildup of acetylcholine after Novichok exposure. There is some discussion about which oxime drug might or might not be useful, and over what timeline post-Novichok exposure, as a second pharmacological approach against Novichok exposure. This is not settled. The efficacy of oximes in addition to atropine depends highly on the ageing time of the Novichok (not well documented) and the elapsed time between exposure and administration. Case histories of other nerve agent exposures also emphasize the importance of supportive care to keep airways open, breathing going (oxygen and ventilation), and circulation continuing. Anticonvulsants (e.g. diazepam) are important too.


https://twitter.com/DanKaszeta/status/9...
Why didn’t the Skripals die on the spot?

It seems they were exposed through dermal absorption. This route requires a much higher dose to kill and is slower acting. If something happened to lower the dose, like wearing gloves or “What is this stuff on my hands? I’m going to wash them” then a potentially lethal dose could be made sub-lethal.

Every major nerve agent incident has had more injuries than deaths. In Tokyo, there were 50+ Sarin injuries per 1 fatality. Here’s the BIG THING. The highly lethality and toxicity statistics on nerve agents are for cases and exposures where the victim is not treated. There are case studies of extremely high exposures where the victim survived due to treatment. The Skripals and the cop got treatment. And some of you seem angry or upset that victims have survived in this case. That’s a weird way to be.




Še en.

https://twitter.com/CBRNEsteve/status/9...

It’s tiring to see the predictable howls of anger as people use the @dstlmod statement to serve their political agenda. Novichok was found. The uk clearly asked if Russia felt they had lost control of it. Chemical identification was always unlikely to prove origin - Dstl are only part of any investigation - and as I recently said to the opcw it is the investigators, not the chemists, that build cases. This isn’t the first time that people have piled too much on Dstl. So please move the argument on from chemistry to the other intelligence.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Samuel ::

Okoli Indije tole ne bo šlo. :)
If you notice this notice, you will notice that this notice is
noticably not worth noticing.

Mr.B ::

windigo je izjavil:

Mr.B je izjavil:

When China wants to dominate the world, they send engineers and money to the country and says hey, let's build some roads...

... and then they extend you the credit saying no worries until you are actually unable to pay it back and the country is theirs.

Vredu, grčija je totalno drug primer.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold

Mr.B ::

Samuel je izjavil:

Okoli Indije tole ne bo šlo. :)

Jp oboji grejo okoli ameriskega interesa

Chabahar port is an unlikely litmus test for the US in Iran


Iran signs deal with China to connect key port to rail network
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold

Fritz ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Mr.B je izjavil:


Za ceste dajo posojila, ki jih države niso sposobne odplačevati. In nato v reprogramiranju dobijo pristanišče v 99-letni najem.
https://thediplomat.com/2017/12/sri-lan...
Ali pa morda malo ozemlja od sosede.
http://indiandefence.com/threads/is-thi...

Prvi članek v ničemer ne potrjuje tvojo navedbo. Drugi članek pove, da sta se državi tako dogovorili, verjetno v obojestransko korist in korist Afganistana, če bo kitajska zgradila ustrezno cestno povezavo.
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein

Pac-Man ::

Have fun.

https://slo-tech.com/forum/t720365/p587...

In a study published this month, the CGD identified 14 countries in addition to Djibouti where planned Chinese lending to existing Belt and Road projects threatens to cause financial "distress", with seven where it is likely to push the local economy to the brink of a debt crisis.

The most vulnerable include the Indian Ocean archipelago of the Maldives

...

Other overextended countries include Tajikistan, the Kyrgyz Republic and Mongolia (...) And then there is Pakistan, where China is lending some US$50 billion at market rates to finance a range of ambitious infrastructure projects, few of which stand any chance of generating sufficient cash in the near to medium term to cover the cost of their interest payments.

...

The end result will be either a sovereign default, with all its attendant economic miseries, or debt restructuring. This too is a troubling prospect. China has not signed up to the Paris club of international creditors, whose rules govern best practice in debt restructurings. And in recent years, Beijing has exacted a heavy price from borrowers looking to restructure. In 2011 China demanded Tajikistan give up thousands of square kilometres of territory in return for a debt write-off. And in 2017 China scored a debt-for-equity swap with Sri Lanka that saw it walk away with a 99-year lease on the strategically located port of Hambantota.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Pac-Man ::

april 2016

https://www.reuters.com/article/china-s...

Sri Lanka has asked China to swap some of the $8 billion the Indian Ocean country owes Beijing for equity in infrastructure projects and offered to sell stakes in Sri Lankan companies to Chinese ones, Sri Lankan officials said on Saturday.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Mr.B ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Have fun.

https://slo-tech.com/forum/t720365/p587...

In a study published this month, the CGD identified 14 countries in addition to Djibouti where planned Chinese lending to existing Belt and Road projects threatens to cause financial "distress", with seven where it is likely to push the local economy to the brink of a debt crisis.

The most vulnerable include the Indian Ocean archipelago of the Maldives

...

Other overextended countries include Tajikistan, the Kyrgyz Republic and Mongolia (...) And then there is Pakistan, where China is lending some US$50 billion at market rates to finance a range of ambitious infrastructure projects, few of which stand any chance of generating sufficient cash in the near to medium term to cover the cost of their interest payments.

...

The end result will be either a sovereign default, with all its attendant economic miseries, or debt restructuring. This too is a troubling prospect. China has not signed up to the Paris club of international creditors, whose rules govern best practice in debt restructurings. And in recent years, Beijing has exacted a heavy price from borrowers looking to restructure. In 2011 China demanded Tajikistan give up thousands of square kilometres of territory in return for a debt write-off. And in 2017 China scored a debt-for-equity swap with Sri Lanka that saw it walk away with a 99-year lease on the strategically located port of Hambantota.

Vpraš se, kdo bo dal Sloveniji za obnovo železnice ?
Da samo če prodaš DB, potem imaš pa le še kitajsko, pa še to pod ?, glede na to da bo šla železnica mimo slovenije, ne glede kako obračaš zemljevid.
Lahko tudi obrneš, katera od teh omenjenih držav je spsosbna sama modernizirat in kasirt.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold

Pac-Man ::

Kako malo je potrebno, da nekateri na okopih branijo globalizacijo. Eno tako precej gnilo verzijo le-te.

Samo odstraniš ZDA.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Mr.B ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Kako malo je potrebno, da nekateri na okopih branijo globalizacijo. Eno tako precej gnilo verzijo le-te.

Samo odstraniš ZDA.

ZDA je za globalizacijo, samo so jo vsi vključujoč EU prehiteli. Tudi izstopili so iz NAFTA sporazuma, ker so nekonkurenčni. Sedaj so pa kao Kitajci krivi, kot na primer...
Poštat :
But before you scoff and think this is just another example of Beijing disrupting fair trade and tilting the tables in support of their domestic producers, please realize that you’ve pegged the wrong government to be the recipient of your complaints. These super low shipping rates are being subsidized by the U.S. Postal Service. Yes, the United States and, in a roundabout way, the U.S. taxpayer is footing the bill so that Chinese merchants can ship their products to the USA for dirt cheap, essentially losing millions to support a dynamic where domestic American businesses are being undercut by foreign merchants who are immune to any and all intellectual property and consumer safety laws.

Ko gvorimo o cesti,
No iz teherana gre cesta tudi v Sirijo, so jo pa zaradi emeričanov, no začeli graditi malo višje, pač počasi bo ameriko skrbela le dostava z ladjami do amerike, ostalo bo šlo kar z železnico, južno, to irana ali severno, ampak tudi indijska se bo povezala na kitajsko, ker druge tako ne bo imela....
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold

Pac-Man ::

Danes ima preveč ljudi preveč časa.

https://twitter.com/PaperMissiles/statu...

Behold: the Russian nuclear-powered #Burevestnik cruise missile, the latest in Russian Small Modular Reactor (#SMR) technology, powering us all the way to Armageddon. I'd say get on the bandwagon, but it, too, is likely contaminated or vaporized.


https://twitter.com/PaperMissiles/statu...

I would have awarded Tom Rogan the General Tommy Ray Franks "Dumbest F--king Thing" award last week, but this week it goes to these paragraphs from a Russian story on the #Burevestnik #cruisemissile, at vesti.ru
In the Pentagon, our rocket has been given its own name: "the unstoppable." Bypassing missile defenses, it can move on absolutely any trajectory. To accomplish this task, the missile is equipped with a small nuclear reactor. And in this, Russian engineers anticipated it all: such a missile defense system does not actually exist now[!] The analogue of the "#Burevestnik" is the American Tomahawk with the only difference being that the maximum range of the Tomahawk is just 2,5 thousand kilometers. The range of our "#Burevestnik" is unlimited in the literal meaning of the word: It is a cruise missile capable of reaching a target [after flying for] several days in a row. There are no analogues for this in the world.

###
That's because almost everyone on the planet isn't dumb enough to strap a few hundred kilotons of nuclear yield on a nuclear reactor and fly it around the world for days; let alone using GLONASS you homicidal pillocks!
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

ADIJOOO1 ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Danes ima preveč ljudi preveč časa.

https://twitter.com/PaperMissiles/statu...

Behold: the Russian nuclear-powered #Burevestnik cruise missile, the latest in Russian Small Modular Reactor (#SMR) technology, powering us all the way to Armageddon. I'd say get on the bandwagon, but it, too, is likely contaminated or vaporized.


https://twitter.com/PaperMissiles/statu...

I would have awarded Tom Rogan the General Tommy Ray Franks "Dumbest F--king Thing" award last week, but this week it goes to these paragraphs from a Russian story on the #Burevestnik #cruisemissile, at vesti.ru
In the Pentagon, our rocket has been given its own name: "the unstoppable." Bypassing missile defenses, it can move on absolutely any trajectory. To accomplish this task, the missile is equipped with a small nuclear reactor. And in this, Russian engineers anticipated it all: such a missile defense system does not actually exist now[!] The analogue of the "#Burevestnik" is the American Tomahawk with the only difference being that the maximum range of the Tomahawk is just 2,5 thousand kilometers. The range of our "#Burevestnik" is unlimited in the literal meaning of the word: It is a cruise missile capable of reaching a target [after flying for] several days in a row. There are no analogues for this in the world.

###
That's because almost everyone on the planet isn't dumb enough to strap a few hundred kilotons of nuclear yield on a nuclear reactor and fly it around the world for days; let alone using GLONASS you homicidal pillocks!




In kaj je to zaen revež Thomas Moore, ki ima komaj 209 sledilcev na Twiterju ?

Samuel ::

Mr.B je izjavil:


Tudi izstopili so iz NAFTA sporazuma, ker so nekonkurenčni. Sedaj so pa kao Kitajci krivi, kot na primer...
Poštat :
But before you scoff and think this is just another example of Beijing disrupting fair trade and tilting the tables in support of their domestic producers, please realize that you’ve pegged the wrong government to be the recipient of your complaints. These super low shipping rates are being subsidized by the U.S. Postal Service. Yes, the United States and, in a roundabout way, the U.S. taxpayer is footing the bill so that Chinese merchants can ship their products to the USA for dirt cheap, essentially losing millions to support a dynamic where domestic American businesses are being undercut by foreign merchants who are immune to any and all intellectual property and consumer safety laws.


1. "ker so nekonkurenčni"
Seveda ne morejo biti konkurenčni, če pa so sporazumi napisani tako, da so drugi profitirali. Temu je sedaj pod Trumpom konec. Ta ideja, kjer se je pumpal razvoj vsepovsod, ravno v ZDA ne, se končuje. Evropa bo morala začeti skrbeti zase, tudi za obrambo (kar bo seveda stalo).
2. Tudi USPS in subvencionirani prevozi so stvar ravno teh sporazumov. Tudi tega bo konec.

In popolnoma jasno je, da ZDA tukaj ne morejo izgubit. 375mrd deficita do Kitajske bo usekalo na koncu Kitajsko, če ne bo prenehala s svojimi dumpingi in krajo.
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noticably not worth noticing.
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