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NATO in Rusija
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zmaugy ::
Oh ne, spet želimo pobegniti v varno drugo svetovno vojno? Daj odpri si svojo temo o drugi svetovni vojni.
MadMicka ::
zmaugy, praviš, da Nemčija v I. svetovni vojni ni bila bad guy, prej je to bila UK. No, temu ni tako iz preprostega dejstva, ker je Nemčija napadla Francijo in začela krvavo vojno. Agresor je problem in ne obratno, upam, da se vsaj tu strinjamo.
Mr.B ::
Orožje, ki so ga švercali v UK na ladjah kot je bila Lusitanija, se je plačevalo avansno? S tem da ne veva natančno kaj se je zgodilo prej, ane? Financiranje ali telegram, ker 1917 je od 1.1.1917. Ampak ne bom zapenjal na tej točki...
Reciva takole, edini argument, ki bi ga financiranje vojne s krediti iz ZDA lahko prineslo je, da so se ZDA zbale za zdravje svojih kreditojemalcev in so se vmešale v vojno zato, da bi zavarovale svoje kredite. Če bi to bilo res bi morali krediti ZDA priti bistveno prej kot vstop ZDA v vojno. V najboljšem primeru imaš na voljo 95 dni od tega ko začnejo nuditi kredite do tega ko se za njih ustrašijo in gredo kar v vojno.
Trditev je absurdna. Nehaj se smešiti.
Torej: WTF so Američani delali v Evropi leta 1917?
Približno isto kot leta 1944. Zanimivo, da se nad tistim ne pritožuje nihče, ki bi imel lase.
In to počnejo do danes s sirjenhem demokracije, samo da si sedaj zagotovijo kredite, tam kjer serjejo z demokracijo. Se eu rabi dovoljenje, da tam ne serje v njenem zelniku.
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Vazelin ::
Putin fani niso konsistentni. Poglej mmc rtvslo. Največji komunisti ala komsomolec worshipajo in shitpostajo hvalopeve Putinu. 
Bog ne daj kaj reči čez Tsarja. Koj Soros kriv
Bog ne daj kaj reči čez Tsarja. Koj Soros kriv
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zmaugy ::
Problem fanboyev je, da nimate izbire. Imate plemensko pamet in izven tega ne morete. Jaz sem za Slovenijo in EU, ker je to v našem interesu, ne razumem fanboyev drugih svetovnih sil, ki le te preferirajo pred lastno domovino...
Razlika med Rusijo in ZDPA (ena od njih) je, da je ameriški predsednik brezveznik, ruski pač vse kaj drugega. Rusom jasno takšno stanje odgovarja, saj so drugače tako zadaj za ZDPA, da brez nesposobneža na čelu ZDPA nimajo šans.
Drugače pa in eni in drugi EU ne želijo nič dobrega. Štala na BV je zasluga ZDPA in manj ostalih. Ker so ZDPA glavna svetovna supersila, je tudi njihova odgovornost največja.
Razlika med Rusijo in ZDPA (ena od njih) je, da je ameriški predsednik brezveznik, ruski pač vse kaj drugega. Rusom jasno takšno stanje odgovarja, saj so drugače tako zadaj za ZDPA, da brez nesposobneža na čelu ZDPA nimajo šans.
Drugače pa in eni in drugi EU ne želijo nič dobrega. Štala na BV je zasluga ZDPA in manj ostalih. Ker so ZDPA glavna svetovna supersila, je tudi njihova odgovornost največja.
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nsa_ag3nt ::
Samuel
3 rajh je na vzhodni fronti izgubil 3/4 svoje vojske.
Normandija se je zgodila zato, ker je šlo Rusom predobro, in so se zahodni zavezniki zbali, da bodo prišlo do Atlantika.
https://www.pri.org/stories/2014-06-06/...
Od avgusta 1943 je bilo konec "Drang nach Ost" projekta.
V bistvu jih je Stalin prosil na kolenih, da odprejo drugo fronto. Ampak jebiga. Rusofil in zgodovina to ne gre skupaj.
3 rajh je na vzhodni fronti izgubil 3/4 svoje vojske.
Normandija se je zgodila zato, ker je šlo Rusom predobro, in so se zahodni zavezniki zbali, da bodo prišlo do Atlantika.
https://www.pri.org/stories/2014-06-06/...
In a way, the Russians can even claim some credit for the D-Day strategy: the Allies' landing in Normandy in June of 1944 came in response to repeated appeals from Soviet leader Joseph Stalin to ease pressure on the eastern front. But by that time, Soviet forces all but had the Germans on the run.
Od avgusta 1943 je bilo konec "Drang nach Ost" projekta.
https://gizmodo.com/c/goodbye-big-five
Samuel ::
Problem fanboyev je, da nimate izbire. Imate plemensko pamet in izven tega ne morete. Jaz sem za Slovenijo in EU, ker je to v našem interesu, ne razumem fanboyev drugih svetovnih sil, ki le te preferirajo pred lastno domovino...
Razlika med Rusijo in ZDPA (ena od njih) je, da je ameriški predsednik brezveznik, ruski pač vse kaj drugega. Rusom jasno takšno stanje odgovarja, saj so drugače tako zadaj za ZDPA, da brez nesposobneža na čelu ZDPA nimajo šans. Drugače pa in eni in drugi EU ne želijo nič dobrega. Štala na BV je zasluga ZDPA in manj ostalih. Ker so ZDPA glavna svetovna supersila, je tudi njihova odgovornost največja.
Na ameriških volitvah je daleč največ volitev dobila Hillary (ki meni osebno sploh ni všeč). Ker je v ZDA volilni sistem kakršen je, so pretehtali glasovi v mejnih državah in tam se je največ poznal vpliv razodetja Podestinih mailov (bojda z rusko pomočjo). Torej je Rusija neposredno vplivala na rezultat volitev (verjetno celo brez Trumpovega vedenja). Tudi dejanja Putina so popolnoma jasna in nedvoumna. Podpiral je Trumpa.
Torej, nehaj se sprenevedat. V tem kontektu velja, da če podpiraš Putina, podpiraš tudi Trumpa. Ne more bit drugače.
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Samuel ::
Bomo kmalu videli, kaj bo z dogovorom z Severno Korejo, bojda v maju.
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zmaugy ::
Bomo kmalu videli, kaj bo z dogovorom z Severno Korejo, bojda v maju.
Kaj pravi bivši CIA direktor John Brennan o Trumpu (med drugim tudi o srečanju s Kimom):
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MadMicka ::
Tega res ne razumem, kako lahko zmaugy govori o pobebavljenih ZDA. Imajo najboljše univerze na svetu, najmočnejšo in najbolj operativno vojsko, najmočnejše gospodarstvo. Kaj smo pa pol ostali, navadni idioti?
Samuel ::
Brez problema lahko govorim o tem. Poglej koga so izvolili za predsednika.
Volitve so bile novembra 2016. So te šele zdaj spustili iz psihiatrije?
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zmaugy ::
Nevoščljivec. Ah, primitivno, kot da si Trumpov volilec.
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Pac-Man ::
En mali detajlček, na katerega še nisem pomislil.
https://twitter.com/AndyAxel/status/976...
Seeing that "a Russian asset and his daughter" were attacked in the UK, that seemed a little too on-the-nose to be coincidental. Trump appears to have gotten the reinforcing message.
https://twitter.com/AndyAxel/status/976...
Seeing that "a Russian asset and his daughter" were attacked in the UK, that seemed a little too on-the-nose to be coincidental. Trump appears to have gotten the reinforcing message.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
Wikileaks avtogol.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-...
Once-secret U.S. government documents show that Western powers have quietly worried for more than a decade about the mysterious and deadly nerve agent Novichok, which British investigators now believe was used in the attempted assassination of a former Russian spy living in Great Britain.
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Documents found in the massive trove of leaked State Department cables published in November 2010 by the self-described transparency organization Wikileaks underscore that Russia’s possession of Novichok has been an ongoing fear.
Since the mid-1980’s, a number of likeminded nations, now more than 40, have met annually for informal private discussions about preventing the spread of chemical and biological weapons through export licenses and other forms of control.
These meetings came to be known as the Australia Group, and members are parties to global conventions on chemical and biological weapons. Several former Soviet-bloc countries joined after the collapse of the Soviet Union, but Russia refrained.
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A State Department document dated June 20, 2006 — labeled “SECRET” and sent to unknown recipients — followed a meeting of the group in Paris days earlier and indicated that the Canadian delegation was concerned about Russia. Canada noted that Russian President Boris Yeltsin confirmed in 1992 his nation had a biological weapons program and would halt it.The Canadian went on to complain that “Russia has failed to acknowledge public statements made by former Russian CW (chemical weapons) researchers on Novichok, CW agents.”
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At the same meetings, the British delegation, in concerns that now seem prophetic, said that Russia retained an offense-minded chemical weapons program.
“The UK thinks that Russia may have a CW mobilization capability and stores precursor chemicals. The UK believes that Russia’s export control enforcement is feckless,” said the summary, adding that “Russia’s BW (biological weapons) program was the largest in history, involving thousands of scientists, so the potential for proliferation is enormous.”
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Novichok came up again in April 2008, when the UK again, before the Australia Group, warned about Russia and the little-known nerve agent. The British delegation complained of incomplete and inaccurate chemical weapons declarations by Russia.
“Particularly, the UK noted press reports from former officials of the Soviet Union allegation that the Soviet Union had developed novichok (sic) agents. The UK believes that research with dual-use implications continues,” said the meeting summary, sent on April 17, 2008, by the State Department’s intelligence bureau to the CIA.
The same secret document cited French concerns that Russia may be revisiting a World War II-era effort to produce a virus that could be used to assassinate persons via induced encephalomyelitis. The virus provokes an autoimmune disorder that creates inflammation of the brain and spinal cord similar to multiple sclerosis, and is sometimes called stiff-person syndrome.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-...
Once-secret U.S. government documents show that Western powers have quietly worried for more than a decade about the mysterious and deadly nerve agent Novichok, which British investigators now believe was used in the attempted assassination of a former Russian spy living in Great Britain.
...
Documents found in the massive trove of leaked State Department cables published in November 2010 by the self-described transparency organization Wikileaks underscore that Russia’s possession of Novichok has been an ongoing fear.
Since the mid-1980’s, a number of likeminded nations, now more than 40, have met annually for informal private discussions about preventing the spread of chemical and biological weapons through export licenses and other forms of control.
These meetings came to be known as the Australia Group, and members are parties to global conventions on chemical and biological weapons. Several former Soviet-bloc countries joined after the collapse of the Soviet Union, but Russia refrained.
...
A State Department document dated June 20, 2006 — labeled “SECRET” and sent to unknown recipients — followed a meeting of the group in Paris days earlier and indicated that the Canadian delegation was concerned about Russia. Canada noted that Russian President Boris Yeltsin confirmed in 1992 his nation had a biological weapons program and would halt it.The Canadian went on to complain that “Russia has failed to acknowledge public statements made by former Russian CW (chemical weapons) researchers on Novichok, CW agents.”
...
At the same meetings, the British delegation, in concerns that now seem prophetic, said that Russia retained an offense-minded chemical weapons program.
“The UK thinks that Russia may have a CW mobilization capability and stores precursor chemicals. The UK believes that Russia’s export control enforcement is feckless,” said the summary, adding that “Russia’s BW (biological weapons) program was the largest in history, involving thousands of scientists, so the potential for proliferation is enormous.”
...
Novichok came up again in April 2008, when the UK again, before the Australia Group, warned about Russia and the little-known nerve agent. The British delegation complained of incomplete and inaccurate chemical weapons declarations by Russia.
“Particularly, the UK noted press reports from former officials of the Soviet Union allegation that the Soviet Union had developed novichok (sic) agents. The UK believes that research with dual-use implications continues,” said the meeting summary, sent on April 17, 2008, by the State Department’s intelligence bureau to the CIA.
The same secret document cited French concerns that Russia may be revisiting a World War II-era effort to produce a virus that could be used to assassinate persons via induced encephalomyelitis. The virus provokes an autoimmune disorder that creates inflammation of the brain and spinal cord similar to multiple sclerosis, and is sometimes called stiff-person syndrome.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
Leta 2006 in 2008 so se Britanci, Američani in Francozi sekirali zaradi ruskega kemičnega in biološkega programa.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Fritz ::
Wikileaks avtogol.
Zakaj avtogol. Wikileaks je objavil dokumente iz katerih lahko vsi vidimo kako deluje administracija ZDA. Med temi je cela vrsta 'običajnih' dokumentov iz bilateralnih in multilateralnih sestankov, kjer se izražajo običajne zaskrbljenosti zaradi onih drugih, najsi gre za islamistične teroriste, ruske JKB zmogljivosti, rastočo kitajsko ekonomsko moč in tako naprej in tako nazaj...
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
Pac-Man ::
https://twitter.com/ReutersWorld/status...
Identical twins and 'carousels': Here is what @Reuters reporters saw at polling stations during Sunday's election in Russia
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russ...
Identical twins and 'carousels': Here is what @Reuters reporters saw at polling stations during Sunday's election in Russia
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russ...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
zmaugy ::
https://twitter.com/ReutersWorld/status...
Identical twins and 'carousels': Here is what @Reuters reporters saw at polling stations during Sunday's election in Russia
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russ...
To ni še nič, v ZDPA je po trditvah kmetavzarja glasovalo 3 milijone ilegalcev
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Pac-Man ::
Hec je, da goto ruski izgovor o najbolj pregledni javni upravi pogosto drži. Volišča so pod web kamerami, politiki morajo prijaviti imetje, register prometnih kazni je javno dostopen. Ampak za najbolj enake od enakih ni posledic.
Volitve so zgoraj, za ostalo dvoje se najde pa kak poslanec, ki je v zadnjih par letih prijavil 2 Bentleya in dolgo S-klaso z voznikom, čeprav nima ustreznih prihodkov, Mercedes pa je v kakem letu nabral čez 800 prometnih prekrškov. Brez posledic.
Že prilepljen 8. marec special, angleški podnapisi
Volitve so zgoraj, za ostalo dvoje se najde pa kak poslanec, ki je v zadnjih par letih prijavil 2 Bentleya in dolgo S-klaso z voznikom, čeprav nima ustreznih prihodkov, Mercedes pa je v kakem letu nabral čez 800 prometnih prekrškov. Brez posledic.
Že prilepljen 8. marec special, angleški podnapisi
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
https://global.handelsblatt.com/politic...
New foreign minister Heiko Mass has indicated that Germany's policy towards Russia may be hardening in the light of Putin's recent re-election and allegations of state-sponsored assassinations.
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And while Mr. Maas's predecessor, Sigmar Gabriel, was talking of partnerships with Moscow, he was working on a joint statement with his EU colleagues condemning Russia for its alleged involvement in the poisoning of former double agent Sergei Skripal in Britain.
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"The first statements suggest that Maas is counting on clear opposition to Russia's aggressive course, which violates international law," Norbert Röttgen, head of the Foreign Affairs Committee in the German parliament, the Bundestag, told Handelsblatt. He is calling for a continuation of the "firm, consistent policy of non-acceptance of Russian aggression" that Chancellor Angela Merkel has pursued alongside other European and NATO partners. Mr. Röttgen accused Mr. Gabriel of deviating from it again and again. Germany must always be ready to talk, he said, but must not make any concessions on elementary principles of international politics.
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Ms. Merkel is unlikely to shift her line. Those who set the tone in her government do not trust Mr. Putin and see his expansive foreign policy as a threat to the European security architecture.
New foreign minister Heiko Mass has indicated that Germany's policy towards Russia may be hardening in the light of Putin's recent re-election and allegations of state-sponsored assassinations.
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And while Mr. Maas's predecessor, Sigmar Gabriel, was talking of partnerships with Moscow, he was working on a joint statement with his EU colleagues condemning Russia for its alleged involvement in the poisoning of former double agent Sergei Skripal in Britain.
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"The first statements suggest that Maas is counting on clear opposition to Russia's aggressive course, which violates international law," Norbert Röttgen, head of the Foreign Affairs Committee in the German parliament, the Bundestag, told Handelsblatt. He is calling for a continuation of the "firm, consistent policy of non-acceptance of Russian aggression" that Chancellor Angela Merkel has pursued alongside other European and NATO partners. Mr. Röttgen accused Mr. Gabriel of deviating from it again and again. Germany must always be ready to talk, he said, but must not make any concessions on elementary principles of international politics.
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Ms. Merkel is unlikely to shift her line. Those who set the tone in her government do not trust Mr. Putin and see his expansive foreign policy as a threat to the European security architecture.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
Se kdo spomni cele HAARP drame?
https://twitter.com/ffa0213/status/9768...
Back in late 80s I was in Moscow getting education in theoretical physics. After graduation, I entered PhD program in 1 of USSR’s top physics/math institutions.
At the first meeting I had with my super to discuss research projects for my PhD thesis, I was offered to be a part of a team that was being financed by DOD. Project was classified as top secret so if I were to join it I would b required 2 get security clearance & wouldn’t be able travel outside of USSR for 15 years. Latter req was a deal breaker.
I declined the offer but not before I was given the outlines of the project to make a decision. In short, the project was to conduct research on how to generate manmade tornadoes over territory of the “The Most Likely Adversary”. That how USA was classified at the time.
https://twitter.com/ffa0213/status/9768...
Back in late 80s I was in Moscow getting education in theoretical physics. After graduation, I entered PhD program in 1 of USSR’s top physics/math institutions.
At the first meeting I had with my super to discuss research projects for my PhD thesis, I was offered to be a part of a team that was being financed by DOD. Project was classified as top secret so if I were to join it I would b required 2 get security clearance & wouldn’t be able travel outside of USSR for 15 years. Latter req was a deal breaker.
I declined the offer but not before I was given the outlines of the project to make a decision. In short, the project was to conduct research on how to generate manmade tornadoes over territory of the “The Most Likely Adversary”. That how USA was classified at the time.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Cervantes ::
Zgleda pa, da bo EU od norih Britov hotela še kakšen "dokaz", preden bo začela izganjat "ruske vohune" iz ambasad.
Glej Reuters, se mi ne ljubi pastat.
Pacovirus resistant.
Glej Reuters, se mi ne ljubi pastat.
Pacovirus resistant.
Cervantes ::
Zgleda pa, da bo EU od norih Britov hotela še kakšen "dokaz", preden bo začela izganjat "ruske vohune" iz ambasad.
Glej Reuters, se mi ne ljubi pastat.
Pacovirus resistant.
Wow!
Kakšno obilje postov!
I like!
Glej Reuters, se mi ne ljubi pastat.
Pacovirus resistant.
Wow!
Kakšno obilje postov!
I like!
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Cervantes ::
Razen odsotnosti dokazov, karkoli.
Recimo:
Kdo, kdaj, kako, zakaj?
Recimo:
Kdo, kdaj, kako, zakaj?
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Pac-Man ::
https://twitter.com/BBCTomSymonds/statu...
Mr Justice Williams has given doctors the go-ahead to take blood samples from Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia for testing by the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, following a hearing in the Court of Protection in London. Court of Protection makes decisions on behalf of those without mental capacity. The Skripals remain in a critical condition which means they are likely to be unconscious and unable to communicate their views.
5 witnesses including Porton Down scientists, senior FCO and Home office officials gave evidence in private to court of protection. Order needed because sample was for OPCW and NHS staff did not feel they could go beyond what was needed for medical treatment.
Detail of the Skripals condition in the Court of Protection judgement: Both are heavily sedated. He can not communicate at all, she cannot communicate in an ‘meaningful way’. The hospital has not been approached by anyone known to the patients to enquire of their welfare.
V sorodnih novicah, Rusija se gre spet lažne alternativne teorije.
https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status...
The new construction at Porton Down Russia is claiming in its press conference are new labs are part of Project Helios, which is hardly a state secret, details of it is on the UK government's website
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/buil...
https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status...
Fact checking Russia's Skripal press conference - Their "2012" imagery of Porton Down is missing buildings and car parks visible in 2005 satellite imagery
Their "2012" image is in fact identical to the 2003 image of Porton Down on Google Earth, down to the position of cars in the car parks. 
Mr Justice Williams has given doctors the go-ahead to take blood samples from Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia for testing by the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, following a hearing in the Court of Protection in London. Court of Protection makes decisions on behalf of those without mental capacity. The Skripals remain in a critical condition which means they are likely to be unconscious and unable to communicate their views.
5 witnesses including Porton Down scientists, senior FCO and Home office officials gave evidence in private to court of protection. Order needed because sample was for OPCW and NHS staff did not feel they could go beyond what was needed for medical treatment.
Detail of the Skripals condition in the Court of Protection judgement: Both are heavily sedated. He can not communicate at all, she cannot communicate in an ‘meaningful way’. The hospital has not been approached by anyone known to the patients to enquire of their welfare.
V sorodnih novicah, Rusija se gre spet lažne alternativne teorije.
https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status...
The new construction at Porton Down Russia is claiming in its press conference are new labs are part of Project Helios, which is hardly a state secret, details of it is on the UK government's website
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/buil...
https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status...
Fact checking Russia's Skripal press conference - Their "2012" imagery of Porton Down is missing buildings and car parks visible in 2005 satellite imagery
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
xxxul ::
Vazelin ::
Zlobni angleži želijo Putinu preprečiti triumf na SP v nogometu. Tudi ta teorija je bila tukaj mislim da že omenjena.
Cervantes: dobro veš, da v tako podtalnem delovanju kot je napad z živčnim strupom nikoli ne boš dobil odgovor na vsa vprašanja.
Tudi ta teorija je bila tukaj mislim da že omenjena.Cervantes: dobro veš, da v tako podtalnem delovanju kot je napad z živčnim strupom nikoli ne boš dobil odgovor na vsa vprašanja.
Zheegec ::
John Bolton to be the next National Security Advisor to Trump.
Oh, well. Kdo bo prvi na seznamu za napad? Severna Korea? Iran? Rusija?
Oh, well. Kdo bo prvi na seznamu za napad? Severna Korea? Iran? Rusija?
"božja zapoved pravi; <Spoštuj očeta in mater>,
ne govori pa o spoštovanju sodstva."
Janez Janša, 29.04.2014
ne govori pa o spoštovanju sodstva."
Janez Janša, 29.04.2014
Pac-Man ::
Potrjeno - Guccifer 2.0 z DNC maili je bil ruski obveščevalec.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/exclusive...
EXCLUSIVE: ‘Lone DNC Hacker’ Guccifer 2.0 Slipped Up and Revealed He Was a Russian Intelligence Officer
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Proving that link definitively was harder. Ehmke led an investigation at ThreatConnect that tried to track down Guccifer from the metadata in his emails. But the trail always ended at the same data center in France. Ehmke eventually uncovered that Guccifer was connecting through an anonymizing service called Elite VPN, a virtual private networking service that had an exit point in France but was headquartered in Russia.
But on one occasion, The Daily Beast has learned, Guccifer failed to activate the VPN client before logging on. As a result, he left a real, Moscow-based Internet Protocol address in the server logs of an American social media company, according to a source familiar with the government’s Guccifer investigation. Twitter and WordPress were Guccifer 2.0’s favored outlets. Neither company would comment for this story, and Guccifer did not respond to a direct message on Twitter.
Working off the IP address, U.S. investigators identified Guccifer 2.0 as a particular GRU officer working out of the agency’s headquarters on Grizodubovoy Street in Moscow. (The Daily Beast’s sources did not disclose which particular officer worked as Guccifer.)
https://www.thedailybeast.com/exclusive...
EXCLUSIVE: ‘Lone DNC Hacker’ Guccifer 2.0 Slipped Up and Revealed He Was a Russian Intelligence Officer
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Proving that link definitively was harder. Ehmke led an investigation at ThreatConnect that tried to track down Guccifer from the metadata in his emails. But the trail always ended at the same data center in France. Ehmke eventually uncovered that Guccifer was connecting through an anonymizing service called Elite VPN, a virtual private networking service that had an exit point in France but was headquartered in Russia.
But on one occasion, The Daily Beast has learned, Guccifer failed to activate the VPN client before logging on. As a result, he left a real, Moscow-based Internet Protocol address in the server logs of an American social media company, according to a source familiar with the government’s Guccifer investigation. Twitter and WordPress were Guccifer 2.0’s favored outlets. Neither company would comment for this story, and Guccifer did not respond to a direct message on Twitter.
Working off the IP address, U.S. investigators identified Guccifer 2.0 as a particular GRU officer working out of the agency’s headquarters on Grizodubovoy Street in Moscow. (The Daily Beast’s sources did not disclose which particular officer worked as Guccifer.)
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Cervantes ::
Cervantes ::
Zlobni angleži želijo Putinu preprečiti triumf na SP v nogometu.
Cervantes: dobro veš, da v tako podtalnem delovanju kot je napad z živčnim strupom nikoli ne boš dobil odgovor na vsa vprašanja.
Ja saj.
In morilec ponavadi na kraju zločina pusti svojo osebno izkaznico.
Smrekar1 ::
Potrjeno - Guccifer 2.0 z DNC maili je bil ruski obveščevalec.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/exclusive...
EXCLUSIVE: ‘Lone DNC Hacker’ Guccifer 2.0 Slipped Up and Revealed He Was a Russian Intelligence Officer
Barack Obama kot belec
Fritz ::
Cervantes: dobro veš, da v tako podtalnem delovanju kot je napad z živčnim strupom nikoli ne boš dobil odgovor na vsa vprašanja.
Če Angleži trdijo, da imajo resne dokaze o ruski udeležbi v tem napadu, naj jih predstavijo. Do sedaj razen 'highly likely' niso povedali popolnoma nič oprijemljivega.
V starih časih so se države z dokazi hvalile v medijih in v VS OZN, danes pa kaže, da je kot dokaz dovolj že izjava političnega predstavnika. Ne sprejmem.
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
fikus_ ::
Jaz (lahko) trdim "highly likely", Angleži se bodo pa morali bolj potruditi z dokazi, saj preiskujejo primer. V civilnem pravu se smatra oseba kot nedolžna, dokler se ji ne dokaže krivde, zakaj bi bilo tukaj drugače.
Zgleda da v piarovski vojni drži, citiram " Un k se najglasneje dere ma kao najbolj prav,. . . "!
Zgleda da v piarovski vojni drži, citiram " Un k se najglasneje dere ma kao najbolj prav,. . . "!
Smrekar1 ::
Jaz (lahko) trdim "highly likely", Angleži se bodo pa morali bolj potruditi z dokazi, saj preiskujejo primer. V civilnem pravu se smatra oseba kot nedolžna, dokler se ji ne dokaže krivde, zakaj bi bilo tukaj drugače.
Ker smo že izločili nemogoče, namreč da bi zadevo izvedel kdo drug.
Rusija oborožuje "zmerne sile" v Afganistanu.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-4350...
Zgodovina sprememb…
- spremenil: Smrekar1 ()
Mr.B ::
Seveda, ko bo zacela dostavljati rakete za ciljanje dronov, se oglasi. Kupiti ocala za gledanje ponoci, ali pa kupiti ak47, ravno ni tezko.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
fikus_ ::
Potem pa naj dajo dokaze na plano. Verjetno bi tudi marsikaterega laika in nejevernega zanimala/prepričala razlaga in podrobnosti.
Mr.B ::
Dostava turkmeninstan : https://www.alibaba.com/premium/night_v...
Verjetno rabis samo papirje, ce bos kupil pac 100k. Recimo en paket dolarjev, za dostavo na lokalno vojasko barako, potem bodo pa ze prepeljali cez mejo...https://www.atlanticfirearms.com/howtob...
Verjetno rabis samo papirje, ce bos kupil pac 100k. Recimo en paket dolarjev, za dostavo na lokalno vojasko barako, potem bodo pa ze prepeljali cez mejo...https://www.atlanticfirearms.com/howtob...
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Zgodovina sprememb…
- spremenil: Mr.B ()
Smrekar1 ::
Dostava turkmeninstan : https://www.alibaba.com/premium/night_v...
Ak ni bil omenjen. Daj, poišči kdo dostavlja tja težke mitraljeze.
Zgodovina sprememb…
- spremenil: Smrekar1 ()
Pac-Man ::
Potem pa naj dajo dokaze na plano. Verjetno bi tudi marsikaterega laika in nejevernega zanimala/prepričala razlaga in podrobnosti.
Malo počakaj. Primer je malenkost bolj kompleksen kot MH17, kjer moral samo videt buk lanser na par fotografijah.
Se pa tudi Rusija že glasno dere, da ne priznajejo taj sud (t.j. preiskave OPCW) in seveda servirajo različne nemogoče teorije.
https://twitter.com/foreignoffice/statu...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Cervantes ::
Jaz pa mislim, da je "higly likely", da so zadevo sproducirali tisti, ki so iz tega potegnili korist.
Le kdo bi to lahko bil?
Vprašanje je seveda retorično.
Le kdo bi to lahko bil?
Vprašanje je seveda retorično.
Fritz ::
No, dajmo pogledati Trumpovega novega svetovalca za varnost:
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/26/opin...
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-legal-...
https://www.wsj.com/articles/revisit-th...
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/...
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/26/opin...
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-legal-...
https://www.wsj.com/articles/revisit-th...
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/...
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
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