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NATO in Rusija
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Pac-Man ::
Če že lepiš, dodaj vir. Se nisi ničesar naučil od mojega spamanja?
Mi pa tole smrdi po ribarjenju za ključavnico. Prihodnjih par dni zna biti za Rusijo nekoliko neprijetnih.
Mi pa tole smrdi po ribarjenju za ključavnico. Prihodnjih par dni zna biti za Rusijo nekoliko neprijetnih.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Mr.B ::
Če že lepiš, dodaj vir. Se nisi ničesar naučil od mojega spamanja?
Mi pa tole smrdi po ribarjenju za ključavnico. Prihodnjih par dni zna biti za Rusijo nekoliko neprijetnih.
Verjetno boš znal najti podatke, koliko Donald volilcev se je odločilo za voliti njega na podlagi gledanja Fox news in koliko na podlagi Twixic...
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Datum boš tudi našel : Pa sem prepričan, ker se navajajo viri iz še strejših datumom, da je to dodelano do konca...
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France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Mr.B ::
Madonca, rsi izumili toplo vodo : http://www.danah.org/researchBibs/sns.p...
Ali pa tale : več % clintonovih volilcev je informacije dobilo na FC kot Trumpovih, Po moje bi morai ukinit Fox news. Retardet. http://www.journalism.org/2017/01/18/tr...
Ali pa tale : več % clintonovih volilcev je informacije dobilo na FC kot Trumpovih, Po moje bi morai ukinit Fox news. Retardet. http://www.journalism.org/2017/01/18/tr...
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
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Vazelin ::
Nikoli mi ni bila jasna fascinacija nad Putinom dela levih in dela desnih pri nas. realnost je, da se pobija opozicijske voditelje, nezaželjene novinarje in podobno.
Pac-Man ::
FC je?
Tale pozna sceno, ampak zadeva močno zasmrdi po alufolija teorijah o vojaško-industrijskem kompleksu na zahodu. Kar se mene tiče je ena možnost povsem navadno postavljanje. Podobno kot publicirani raketni testi v zadnjih dneh. Raša stronk.
Debata na povezavi je prav tako zanimiva.
https://twitter.com/christogrozev/statu...
Something doesn't make sense here. Why would Putin authorize it just before his sure-shot elections? The argument "it doesn't hurt his domestic standing" doesn't hold - would çatalyze protest vote.. It was clearly the job of the Russian military/FSB elite, but from which part?
Let me clarify. RU's military elite/GRU have no (economic) interest in Russia's military interventions abroad subsiding. They (via "nationalist" mouthpieces) have been accusing Kremlin of selling out to the West, expecting sanctions detente. A murder on UK soil ensures no detente.
I'd give this "purposeful aggravation" hypothesis 60% probability. 30% is FSB trying to please the boss, clumsily. 10% a Kremlin-sanctioned project.
Tale pozna sceno, ampak zadeva močno zasmrdi po alufolija teorijah o vojaško-industrijskem kompleksu na zahodu. Kar se mene tiče je ena možnost povsem navadno postavljanje. Podobno kot publicirani raketni testi v zadnjih dneh. Raša stronk.
Debata na povezavi je prav tako zanimiva.
https://twitter.com/christogrozev/statu...
Something doesn't make sense here. Why would Putin authorize it just before his sure-shot elections? The argument "it doesn't hurt his domestic standing" doesn't hold - would çatalyze protest vote.. It was clearly the job of the Russian military/FSB elite, but from which part?
Let me clarify. RU's military elite/GRU have no (economic) interest in Russia's military interventions abroad subsiding. They (via "nationalist" mouthpieces) have been accusing Kremlin of selling out to the West, expecting sanctions detente. A murder on UK soil ensures no detente.
I'd give this "purposeful aggravation" hypothesis 60% probability. 30% is FSB trying to please the boss, clumsily. 10% a Kremlin-sanctioned project.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Cervantes ::
Rajši poglejmo zadevo z logične plati:
Komu zadeva koristi?
Rusi so imeli Škripača v arestu. Lahko bi ga "izginili", pa ga niso. Why?
Če bi ga hoteli likvidirat v GB, bi lahko uporabili X manj sumljivih metod, ne pa živčnega agenta, katerega "ekskluzivni dobavitelj" je Rusija(?). Lahko bi ga povozil avto, zaklal islamski terorist, ustrelil mafioso. Ampak ne. Why?
Zadeva je bila namerno(?) izpeljana tako, da bi lahko predstavljala splošno nevarnost za prebivalce Otoka. Sledi v bifeju etc. Kateri potencialni agent bi bil lahko tako malomaren pri uporabi snovi, katere smrtonosnosti se še kako zadeva? Why?
Korist?
Sile na zahodu, ki demonizirajo Ruse, evidentno. 37 agencij &Co. Ameriški demokrati. Brexiterji. Soroš. Murdoch. You name them. Prestrašeni raji je lažje vladat. Pa morda te še ponovno izvolijo.
Minirat fuzbal?
Spomin na Soči?
Končni uporabnik: ameriški vojaško-industrijski kompleks.
Smrdi do neba in nazaj.
Komu zadeva koristi?
Rusi so imeli Škripača v arestu. Lahko bi ga "izginili", pa ga niso. Why?
Če bi ga hoteli likvidirat v GB, bi lahko uporabili X manj sumljivih metod, ne pa živčnega agenta, katerega "ekskluzivni dobavitelj" je Rusija(?). Lahko bi ga povozil avto, zaklal islamski terorist, ustrelil mafioso. Ampak ne. Why?
Zadeva je bila namerno(?) izpeljana tako, da bi lahko predstavljala splošno nevarnost za prebivalce Otoka. Sledi v bifeju etc. Kateri potencialni agent bi bil lahko tako malomaren pri uporabi snovi, katere smrtonosnosti se še kako zadeva? Why?
Korist?
Sile na zahodu, ki demonizirajo Ruse, evidentno. 37 agencij &Co. Ameriški demokrati. Brexiterji. Soroš. Murdoch. You name them. Prestrašeni raji je lažje vladat. Pa morda te še ponovno izvolijo.
Minirat fuzbal?
Spomin na Soči?
Končni uporabnik: ameriški vojaško-industrijski kompleks.
Smrdi do neba in nazaj.
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Vazelin ::
a tudi za novinarje pa opozicijske voditelje je kriv Soros?
Malce pretiravaš po mojem mnenju. teorija zarote je možna pri vsaki stvari
Dvomim da bi Mayeva brez dokazov žugala rusom. Sigurno bolj kredibilno kot teorije zarote by cervantes
Malce pretiravaš po mojem mnenju. teorija zarote je možna pri vsaki stvari
Dvomim da bi Mayeva brez dokazov žugala rusom. Sigurno bolj kredibilno kot teorije zarote by cervantes
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Cervantes ::
Dvomi dalje.
Ampak prej preberi moj post še enkrat.
Ampak prej preberi moj post še enkrat.
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Cervantes ::
BTW, vse skupaj spominja na napad "Poljakov" na radijsko postajo Gliwice.
Upam samo, da tudi posledice ne bodo podobne.
Pa "incident" v Tonkinškem zalivu, anyone?
Upam samo, da tudi posledice ne bodo podobne.
Pa "incident" v Tonkinškem zalivu, anyone?
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Mr.B ::
Ne ze spet...kdo rece veckrat fake news
https://wtop.com/social-media/2018/01/t...
https://wtop.com/social-media/2018/01/t...
About 2 in 3 American adults say fabricated news stories cause a great deal of confusion about the basic facts of current affairs, according to a Pew Research Center report last month. The survey found that Republicans and Democrats are about equally likely to say that "fake news" leaves Americans deeply confused about current events. Despite the concern, more than 8 in 10 feel very or somewhat confident that they can recognize news that is fabricated, the survey found.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Mr.B ::
Nekaterim uspeva bolje.. pac evolucija ali lahko recemo dekadenca amerike...
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/ar...
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/ar...
As the first graph indicates, American trust in mass media seems to decline around presidential elections. It fell in 2004, and again in 2008, and again in 2012, and now it's collapsed in 2016. Perhaps the hyper-politization of elections, which cleaves the electorate and entrenches two opposing viewpoints on a single national story, erodes public faith that "the media" can be fair to both camps
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
ADIJOOO1 ::
Kdaj je zdaj Trumpov inpičment na sporedu ????
House Intelligence Committee finds no evidence of Russian meddling in 2016 US presidential vote
House Intelligence Committee finds no evidence of Russian meddling in 2016 US presidential vote
Smrekar1 ::
Kdaj je zdaj Trumpov inpičment na sporedu ????
House Intelligence Committee finds no evidence of Russian meddling in 2016 US presidential vote
While Monday's report is clearly a partisan, political document -- committee Democrats were not briefed before its release -- it is all but certain to be used by Trump to discredit intelligence assessments and to proclaim his innocence.
Details of the Republican conclusions also contradict an account laid out by special counsel Robert Mueller of a campaign by Russian entities to disparage Clinton and support Trump, shown in the indictment of 13 Russians issued last month.
Mnja. Bi verjel profesionalnemu lažnivcu ali profesionalnim detektivom? Težka, res.
Pac-Man ::
Predsednik tega komiteja je Devin Nunes. Saj veš, Devin. 
Ta Devin.
Senatna in Muellerjeva preiskava tečeta naprej.
Senatna in Muellerjeva preiskava tečeta naprej.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Smrekar1 ::
Predsednik tega komiteja je Devin Nunes.
Najbolj ironičen je priimek njegovega predhonika pri predstavniškem stolčku.
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( Pac-Man ::
https://twitter.com/ChathamHouse/status...
Four instances where British governments have communicated weakness to Russia without any intention of doing so, from James Sherr and John Lough.
1. The government resisted a public inquiry into the death of Alexander Litvinenko until 2014, signalling that it was disinclined to name and shame Russia for fear of harming attempts to rebuild ties.
2. The winding down of a fair portion of the UK’s maritime reconnaissance and warfare capability in northern waters was regarded with disbelief by Russia.
3. David Cameron's government chose to absent itself from the Russia-Ukraine 'Minsk Process', a signal to Moscow that Ukraine is a low priority for the UK.
4. Brexit - From Moscow’s perspective, the UK’s position at the EU top table enhanced US and British influence simultaneously. That advantage has been thrown away.
For these reasons, the Salisbury attack is a test - If the UK chooses to act toughly, will its allies support it or simply send their best wishes?
Four instances where British governments have communicated weakness to Russia without any intention of doing so, from James Sherr and John Lough.
1. The government resisted a public inquiry into the death of Alexander Litvinenko until 2014, signalling that it was disinclined to name and shame Russia for fear of harming attempts to rebuild ties.
2. The winding down of a fair portion of the UK’s maritime reconnaissance and warfare capability in northern waters was regarded with disbelief by Russia.
3. David Cameron's government chose to absent itself from the Russia-Ukraine 'Minsk Process', a signal to Moscow that Ukraine is a low priority for the UK.
4. Brexit - From Moscow’s perspective, the UK’s position at the EU top table enhanced US and British influence simultaneously. That advantage has been thrown away.
For these reasons, the Salisbury attack is a test - If the UK chooses to act toughly, will its allies support it or simply send their best wishes?
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
ADIJOOO1 ::
https://twitter.com/ChathamHouse/status...
Four instances where British governments have communicated weakness to Russia without any intention of doing so, from James Sherr and John Lough.
1. The government resisted a public inquiry into the death of Alexander Litvinenko until 2014, signalling that it was disinclined to name and shame Russia for fear of harming attempts to rebuild ties.
2. The winding down of a fair portion of the UK’s maritime reconnaissance and warfare capability in northern waters was regarded with disbelief by Russia.
3. David Cameron's government chose to absent itself from the Russia-Ukraine 'Minsk Process', a signal to Moscow that Ukraine is a low priority for the UK.
4. Brexit - From Moscow’s perspective, the UK’s position at the EU top table enhanced US and British influence simultaneously. That advantage has been thrown away.
For these reasons, the Salisbury attack is a test - If the UK chooses to act toughly, will its allies support it or simply send their best wishes?
Pac-Man ::
Em, wtf?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world...
US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson has said the nerve agent used to poison a Russian ex-spy living in the UK “clearly” came from Russia, and promised the attack would trigger a response.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics...
President Trump has ousted Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and plans to nominate CIA Director Mike Pompeo to replace him as the nation’s top diplomat, orchestrating a major change to his national security team amid delicate negotiations with North Korea, White House officials said Tuesday.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world...
US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson has said the nerve agent used to poison a Russian ex-spy living in the UK “clearly” came from Russia, and promised the attack would trigger a response.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics...
President Trump has ousted Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and plans to nominate CIA Director Mike Pompeo to replace him as the nation’s top diplomat, orchestrating a major change to his national security team amid delicate negotiations with North Korea, White House officials said Tuesday.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
ADIJOOO1 ::
Tilerson je znan po tem, da vidi povsod Ruse in teorije zarote.
Trump kot vesten zaveden patriot in odličen državnik je to sprevidel.
Trump + Putin = world peace Sem odebelil čeprav bi ta zapis moral biti napisan z zlatimi črkami.
Trump kot vesten zaveden patriot in odličen državnik je to sprevidel.
Trump + Putin = world peace Sem odebelil čeprav bi ta zapis moral biti napisan z zlatimi črkami.
Pac-Man ::
Ofkors.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
ADIJOOO1 ::
Pac-Man ::
Okej. Tole je sedaj nov ameriški zunanji minister, ki je po tvojem korak naprej.
Mike Pompeo @ Wikipedia
Michael Richard Pompeo (born December 30, 1963) is an American politician and intelligence officer. (...) He was a member of the Tea Party movement within the Republican Party.
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In 1986, Pompeo graduated first in his class from the United States Military Academy at West Point where he majored in mechanical engineering.
From 1986 to 1991, Pompeo served in the U.S. Army as an Armor Branch cavalry officer.[3] He served as a United States Cavalry officer patrolling the Iron Curtain before the fall of the Berlin Wall.[13] He also served with the 2nd Squadron, 7th Cavalry in the 4th Infantry Division in the Gulf War. [14]
In 1994, Pompeo received a Juris Doctor degree from Harvard Law School, where he was an editor of the Harvard Law Review.
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Pompeo supports the surveillance programs of the National Security Agency, referring to the agency's efforts as "good and important work."[35]
Pompeo stated that "Congress should pass a law re-establishing collection of all metadata, and combining it with publicly available financial and lifestyle information into a comprehensive, searchable database. Legal and bureaucratic impediments to surveillance should be removed.
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Pompeo opposes closing Guantanamo Bay detention camp.[39] After a 2013 visit to the prison, Pompeo said, of the prisoners who were on hunger strike, "It looked to me like a lot of them had put on weight."[40]
Pompeo criticized the Obama administration's decision to end black sites (secret prisons), and its requirement that all interrogators adhere to anti-torture laws.
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Pompeo desires regime change in North Korea.
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Pompeo worked to undermine the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action nuclear deal with Iran that was supported by the Obama Administration. Referring to the agreement, Pompeo stated “I look forward to rolling back this disastrous deal with the world’s largest state sponsor of terrorism.”[44] Pompeo also stated that a better option than negotiating with Iran would be to use “under 2,000 sorties to destroy the Iranian nuclear capacity. This is not an insurmountable task for the coalition forces.”
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In November 2015, Pompeo visited Israel and stated that "Prime Minister Netanyahu is a true partner of the American people" and that "Netanyahu's efforts to prevent Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons are incredibly admirable and deeply appreciated".
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During his confirmation hearing, Pompeo stated that Russia "has reasserted itself aggressively, invading and occupying Ukraine, threatening Europe, and doing nearly nothing to aid in the destruction and defeat of ISIS.”
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In a 2017 speech addressing the Center for Strategic and International Studies, Pompeo referred to WikiLeaks as "a non-state hostile intelligence service" and described founder Julian Assange as a narcissist, fraud, and coward.
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In February 2016, Pompeo said Edward Snowden "should be brought back from Russia and given due process, and I think the proper outcome would be that he would be given a death sentence."
MAGA 4ever!!!!!!!!!
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
ADIJOOO1 ::
Nima veze kaj si misli tale Pompei, ker nad njim je še Trump. Trump je pa dober predsednik.
Ampak vsak, ki kritizira Obamovo administracijo pa že ne more biti zelo slab.
Ampak vsak, ki kritizira Obamovo administracijo pa že ne more biti zelo slab.
Cervantes ::
Osebno sem bil med kampanjo zelo anti-Trump.
Zadnje čase me pa kar zabava.
Pomeni, revidiraj svoja stališča od časa do časa.
Ampak zahteva malo pameti, odraslosti?
Pri enih tega ni zaznati.
Zadnje čase me pa kar zabava.
Pomeni, revidiraj svoja stališča od časa do časa.
Ampak zahteva malo pameti, odraslosti?
Pri enih tega ni zaznati.
Cervantes ::
BTW.
Človek načel bo stal na svojem okopu do zadnjega diha.
Modrec bo morda še malo razmislil.
Razlika je očitna.
EDIT:
"Človek načel" se mirno prevede kot "zadrtež".
Haha.
Človek načel bo stal na svojem okopu do zadnjega diha.
Modrec bo morda še malo razmislil.
Razlika je očitna.
EDIT:
"Človek načel" se mirno prevede kot "zadrtež".
Haha.
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Cervantes ::
a to je sedaj to za WW3, vi teoretiki zarot?
Ne. Takega norca morda nima na zalogi niti nora May.
Bi se pa dal zjebat fuzbal, kar je verjetno tudi kratkoročni cilj te pompozne tirade.
Domnevam, da mi bo nadalnji razvoj dogodkov dal prav.
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hammock ::
Meni se ne zdi pretirano sporno da drzava likvidira izdajalskega agenta.
Se mi pa po drugi strani zdi zelo sporno dronanje po Afriki in BV, kjer so zacuda vedno ubiti samo teroristi. Tisto pa je kul.
Se mi pa po drugi strani zdi zelo sporno dronanje po Afriki in BV, kjer so zacuda vedno ubiti samo teroristi. Tisto pa je kul.
Samuel ::
Osebno sem bil med kampanjo zelo anti-Trump.
Zadnje čase me pa kar zabava.
Pomeni, revidiraj svoja stališča od časa do časa.
Ampak zahteva malo pameti, odraslosti?
Pri enih tega ni zaznati.
Presmešno. Ti ne boš in nisi revidiral ničesar. Si star komunajzar, ki mu je Rusija všeč, ker je bila na oni strani. Zdaj je le center turbokapitalizma.
If you notice this notice, you will notice that this notice is
noticably not worth noticing.
noticably not worth noticing.
Cervantes ::
Na podlagi izjav v stilu "might have been" in "could have been" sledi izgon diplomatov na obeh straneh ter bojkot fuzbala v Rusiji.
Norija brez primere.
In ja. Tisti plin so menda razvili v CCCP nekje v 80ih.
In verjetno ni nobenega laboratorija na svetu, ki bi znal to reproducirat?
Halo?
Zdrava pamet, kje si?
In vse to, zarad fuzbala.
Norija brez primere.
In ja. Tisti plin so menda razvili v CCCP nekje v 80ih.
In verjetno ni nobenega laboratorija na svetu, ki bi znal to reproducirat?
Halo?
Zdrava pamet, kje si?
In vse to, zarad fuzbala.
Cervantes ::
Osebno sem bil med kampanjo zelo anti-Trump.
Zadnje čase me pa kar zabava.
Pomeni, revidiraj svoja stališča od časa do časa.
Ampak zahteva malo pameti, odraslosti?
Pri enih tega ni zaznati.
Presmešno. Ti ne boš in nisi revidiral ničesar. Si star komunajzar, ki mu je Rusija všeč, ker je bila na oni strani. Zdaj je le center turbokapitalizma.
O, zdaj pa ad personam?
Ad rem pač ne. Ker je težje?
Vedno lepše.
Ti pojma nimaš, o čem govoriš in talaš nazive na bazi nekompetentnih ocen, obremenjen z neznanjem in predsodki.
Rajši uporabi tisto malo zadevico med ušesi.
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Pac-Man ::
Meni se ne zdi pretirano sporno da drzava likvidira izdajalskega agenta.
Se mi pa po drugi strani zdi zelo sporno dronanje po Afriki in BV, kjer so zacuda vedno ubiti samo teroristi. Tisto pa je kul.
In hčerko.
Vse kul?
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
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Samuel ::
O, zdaj pa ad personam?
Ad rem pač ne. Ker je težje?
Vedno lepše.
Ti pojma nimaš, o čem govoriš in talaš nazive na bazi nekompetentnih ocen, obremenjen z neznanjem in predsodki.
Rajši uporabi tisto malo zadevico med ušesi.
No vidiš, da nisi revidiral ničesar.
If you notice this notice, you will notice that this notice is
noticably not worth noticing.
noticably not worth noticing.
hammock ::
Meni se ne zdi pretirano sporno da drzava likvidira izdajalskega agenta.
Se mi pa po drugi strani zdi zelo sporno dronanje po Afriki in BV, kjer so zacuda vedno ubiti samo teroristi. Tisto pa je kul.
In hčerko.
Še en policist je v bolnici. Medicinsko pomoč je potrebovalo okrog 20 ljudi. V mestu se odvijajo take scene:
Vse kul?
Bi bilo bistveno bolj kul ce bi ga povozili ali pa preprosto ustrelili, ampak ne vidim neke hude tragike tu. Pac Rusi so cudni in imajo svoje finte.
Kar ne spremeni dejstva da US in UK na veliko mecejo bombe po mestih, pa nekako vedno zgresijo civiliste. Sorry, samo malo absurdmo se mi zdi vse skupaj.
Pac-Man ::
Potem ne vidiš neke tragike, če se v Moskvi zastupi Snowdena in njegovo babo, tako da v bolnici konča še par civilov in kak policist?
Rusi bodo morali bit kar tiho, kaj pa gostijo izdajalca. In jih boš glasno kritiziral, če bodo protestirali?
Rusi bodo morali bit kar tiho, kaj pa gostijo izdajalca. In jih boš glasno kritiziral, če bodo protestirali?
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Mr.B ::
Samo amerikanci vejo kaj je pojem : either known civilians or unknown
Po drugi strani, če ste msilili da je Bush hud bav bav, nate prst v rit :
According to the Long War Journal, which follows US anti-terror developments, as of mid-2011, drone strikes in Pakistan since 2006 had killed 2,018 militants and 138 civilians.[4] The New America Foundation stated in mid-2011 that from 2004 to 2011, 80% of the 2,551 people killed in the strikes were militants. The Foundation stated that 95% of those killed in 2010 were militants and that, as of 2012, 15% of the total people killed by drone strikes were either known civilians or unknown.[5] The Foundation also states that in 2012 the rate of known civilian and unknown casualties was 2 percent, whereas the Bureau of Investigative Journalism say the rate of civilian casualties for 2012 is 9 percent.[6] The Bureau, based on extensive research in mid-2011, claims that at least 385 civilians were among the dead, including more than 160 children.[7] The Obama administration estimated in June 2016 that US drone strikes under Obama had killed 64 individuals conclusively determined to be non-combatants, in addition to 52 individuals whose status remained in doubt.[8]
Po drugi strani, če ste msilili da je Bush hud bav bav, nate prst v rit :
There were ten times more air strikes in the covert war on terror during President Barack Obama's presidency than under his predecessor, George W. Bush.Vprašte se kdo je več deportiral
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Samuel ::
Kar ne spremeni dejstva da US in UK na veliko mecejo bombe po mestih, pa nekako vedno zgresijo civiliste. Sorry, samo malo absurdmo se mi zdi vse skupaj.
Američani priznavajo civilne žrtve. Rusi jih ne. Malo si zamešal.
If you notice this notice, you will notice that this notice is
noticably not worth noticing.
noticably not worth noticing.
Cervantes ::
O, zdaj pa ad personam?
Ad rem pač ne. Ker je težje?
Vedno lepše.
Ti pojma nimaš, o čem govoriš in talaš nazive na bazi nekompetentnih ocen, obremenjen z neznanjem in predsodki.
Rajši uporabi tisto malo zadevico med ušesi.
No vidiš, da nisi revidiral ničesar.
Ne se ti preveč brigat zame.
Jaz sem nepomemben.
Rajši stori kaj zase.
Glej zgoraj.
hammock ::
Kar ne spremeni dejstva da US in UK na veliko mecejo bombe po mestih, pa nekako vedno zgresijo civiliste. Sorry, samo malo absurdmo se mi zdi vse skupaj.
Američani priznavajo civilne žrtve. Rusi jih ne. Malo si zamešal.
Dajmo se malo UK omenit
RAF drops more than 3,400 bombs on Iraq and Syria but claims zero civilian casualties.
Glej, ne pravim da so Rusi svetniki, dejstvo je da so barabe. Ampak ne Anglezi ne Americani jim tega ne morejo ocitata, ker niso nic boljsi. Marsikje so se bistveno slabsi.
Cervantes ::
cervantes: če bi moral zbirati med svojo mamo in Putinom. Koga bi izbral?
Izbiral za kaj?
A za pojest?
Kar ne spremeni dejstva da US in UK na veliko mecejo bombe po mestih, pa nekako vedno zgresijo civiliste. Sorry, samo malo absurdmo se mi zdi vse skupaj.
Američani priznavajo civilne žrtve. Rusi jih ne. Malo si zamešal.
Dajmo se malo UK omenit
RAF drops more than 3,400 bombs on Iraq and Syria but claims zero civilian casualties.
Glej, ne pravim da so Rusi svetniki, dejstvo je da so barabe. Ampak ne Anglezi ne Americani jim tega ne morejo ocitata, ker niso nic boljsi. Marsikje so se bistveno slabsi.
Nimaš pojma.
Barabe so samo Rusi.
Oni drugi se samo borijo za demokracijo.-
Zgodovina sprememb…
- spremenil: Cervantes ()
hammock ::
Potem ne vidiš neke tragike, če se v Moskvi zastupi Snowdena in njegovo babo, tako da v bolnici konča še par civilov in kak policist?
Rusi bodo morali bit kar tiho, kaj pa gostijo izdajalca. In jih boš glasno kritiziral, če bodo protestirali?
Rusom dol visi za Snowdena, meni pa tudi. Bi razumel Americane ce bi ga likvidirali, samo ga ne upajo.
Poleg tega pa - ta silni (domnevno ruski, kak dokaz bi bil na mestu) kemicni napad zaenkrat se ni nikogar ubil. Dva sta v malo slabsem stanju, ostali bodo ok.
Pac-Man ::
Poleg tega pa - ta silni (domnevno ruski, kak dokaz bi bil na mestu) kemicni napad zaenkrat se ni nikogar ubil. Dva sta v malo slabsem stanju, ostali bodo ok.
Zelo verjetno sta gone.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/cr...
The case of a Russian military scientist accidentally exposed to Novichok appears to show that even surviving the effects of the supertoxic nerve agent is horrific.
Andrei Zheleznyakov was said to have been injected with an antidote almost immediately, but a friend said he still went from being a jovial, creative man to suffering “chronic weakness, toxic hepatitis, epilepsy, severe depression and an inability to concentrate”, before dying five years later.
...
Dr Patricia Lewis, research director for International Security at Chatham House, said whoever used a Novichok chemical against the Skripals would have known it would be traced back to Russia.
She said British experts would have been able to detect minute trace elements proving the nerve agent’s country of origin, and would therefore have been able to rule out the possibility it was from stocks developed by other nations for the purposes of devising defences against it.
The experts, she said, would not just have relied on the fact Russia was the country which developed Novichok. “There are ways to detect and be much more sure about where it came from,” said Dr Lewis, who served on the 2004-6 WMD Commission chaired by Dr Hans Blix.
“There are very high resolution analysis techniques that can track down trace elements, certain types of chemicals in the particular region where it has been made.”
“Russia knows there are techniques to pinpoint where something came from,” Dr Lewis added. “Whoever did this would know this was traceable back to Russia. So why use such an obvious thing, leaving such an obvious trace?”
One possible reason, said Dr Lewis, could have been a desire to send a strong message. “This clearly wasn’t just a bullet to the head,” she said. “This was a communication – along with the polonium attack [on Alexander Litvinenko] – that this is going to be a horrible way to die.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
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