Boks

Vitez, kakšne možnosti daješ trenutno temu, da bi Zavec branil naslov (v primeru zmage proti Bertu) v Stožicah? Se mi nekako zdi, da bodo naslednje borbe vse v ZDA - vsaj dokler Zavec ne izgubi naslova prvaka.

Jaz pa mislim, da bo borba Zavec-Bailey, če Zavec premaga Berta, v Sloveniji.

Berto je vseeno zvezda. Dovolj velika, da za vsak fajt pobaše milijon in da se prevaža z maseratiji. Bailey ni ta liga, sem že povdaril, da je bila borba Bailey-Ouali za prvega izzivalca v Belgiji, zakaj le, samo zato, da bi se oba malo navadila na Evropo kot predpriprava na Zavca.

Organizirati Bailey-Zavec v ZDA se DiBelli ne splača, ni šans.

Zavec lahko v ZDA boksa samo proti komu, ki je vsaj ranga Berto, ali pa še višje.

Če Zavec zmaga proti Bertu nima neke izbire, ker je Bailey prvi izzivalec. Ne verjamem, da bi "Zavec - Berto" boj bil v ZDA, "Zavec - Bailey" v Stožicah, potem pa spet en boj v ZDA. Bi pa seveda po zmagi nad Bertom in morebitnem naslednjem dvoboju v Stožicah le te dobesedno razneslo.

Oosthuizen vs Pryor Jr. Possible For Berto-Zaveck

Nekdo na sveže uploada filmčke.

Sedaj mi je jasno, zakaj bo Zavec imel sparing z Jackiewiczem. Slednji naj bi se namreč oktobra pomeril s Kellom Brookom, zelo dobrim velterskim boksarjem iz anglije.

ja ta zadeva okrog obtozb glede prepovedanih pozivil ima dolgo brado, in je precej neposrecena. pacquiaov promotor je to tozbo vlozil proti floydu in se nekaterim drugim promotorjem, ceprav se o tem govori ze dolgo in si floyd tega ni spomnil 2009 leta (takrat so pac-floyd pogovori zastali, ker manny ni hotel sprejeti doping testa po olimpijskih standardih). zato je zadeva dokaj neposrecena da sodno preganjas nekoga, ki je samo ponovil nekaj splosno znanih zadev. poleg tega bi lahko zadeva spet zaustavila pogajanja za pac-floyd 2012.
v bistvu mi je vseeno ce se ta borba zgodi ali pa ne. tezko napovedati kdo bi zmagal, verjetno floyd saj ima pac kar probleme s tehnicnimi boksarji (morales, marquez).

no resnici na ljubo je brooka nategnil prejsnji.promotor, sicer znani frank warren. ta ga je pustil kar dolgo na hladnem ker je mislil, da bo pacquiao enkrat vrnil pas WBOju, kar pa se ocitno ne dogaja. novi promotor eddie hearns/matchroom sports pa ocitno cika na brookov vzpon po IBF lestvici. najprej n'dou, sedaj jackiewicz, potem pa verjetno kak malignaggi, bi ga pripeljali na vrh IBFjeve lestvice, kjer trenutno kraljuje nase gore list hehe.
mislim da o floydu bo veliko pokazala borba s ortizom, koliko se ima v sebi tistega vrhunskega boks instinkta ter hitrosti. definitivno pa bi lahko premagal pacquiaota, vsaj glede na to, da je to 2x skoraj uspelo marquezu, ki ga je floyd premagal prakticno brez izgubljene runde.

Ja, Mike Jones in Kell Brook si oba definitivno zaslužita borbo za svetovnega prvaka. Sploh za Jonesa me čudi, da je še ni dobil, ker je visoko rangiran po vseh združenjih, pa še Američan je.

na boxingscene so objavili zanimiv intervju z dejanom, ce koga zanima: When Lou DiBella announced to BoxingScene last month that Andre Berto's first fight removed from his loss to Victor Ortiz would be a title fight with IBF welterweight champion Jan Zaveck, most observers penciled the former WBC champ in the win column almost immediately. Well, half a world away Zaveck was reading and contacted BoxingScene in order to make his case. Compared with many European fighters, he's far from content to protect his belt against lesser competition for the sake of comfortable paydays. More importantly, he says he's coming to Biloxi, Miss., on Sept. 3 to win. In our conversation, the boxer formerly known as Dejan Zavec spoke through translator Jure Doler on a variety of subjects, namely his massive following in his native Slovenia, what he plans to accomplish in his first trip stateside, and his reaction to Team Berto's comment that he's a "Winky Wright with no jab."
BoxingScene: Your real name is Dejan Zavec. I've noticed a lot of Slavic fighters change their names when they fight in Germany (like Adnan Catic to Felix Sturm). Why do you have to change your name to Jan Zaveck? Is it purely because of business? Would you prefer to keep it Dejan Zavec all the time if you could?
Jan Zaveck: To be honest, I'm really not obsessed with my name, boxing name or nickname. My boxing name Jan Zaveck was given to me in Germany, due to easier pronunciation, so the reason is business, as you also say. But the truth is, I'm Dejan and will always remain Dejan. In general, changing names in boxing is not a rarity. Let's take a look at Felix Sturm, who you mentioned or the great Muhammad Ali and many other fighters who are not Slavic.
BoxingScene: You have a lot of fans in Slovenia. In your last defense of your IBF title, 12,000 people bought tickets to see you fight Paul Delgado. One of your fans in Slovenia just emailed me saying she will travel with 50 friends to Biloxi for your fight. What do you think it is that has made you become so popular in Slovenia?
Jan Zaveck: I just can't explain you the connection between us. I need them, they need me, and together we're the strongest team. We're going through real, emotional, and unforgettable moments during my fights and the energy between us is boundless. Whenever I can, I take time for my fans. We chat together and even spend some time together. I guess the popularity comes from my open character. I can't tell you how proud and happy I'm to hear my fans are going with me also to Biloxi. BoxingScene: Like I said, you have a big fan base in Slovenia, and you can make a lot of money defending your belt there against less tougher competition than Berto. A lot of European fighters do that, so why not do the same? Why risk coming to America where there's always a concern that you might not get a fair decision from the judges? For example, look at Sturm when he fought Oscar De La Hoya in Las Vegas. Sturm should've won the fight in my opinion, but the judges gave it to De La Hoya.
Jan Zaveck: I always say you have to push harder and challenge your luck and success, because this is the only way to go beyond the limits. I want to know where I am, and if I'm not good enough to defend my title everywhere in the earth--U.S. or Europe--I don't deserve it. It's not my intention to hide a belt away. It's not moral. Yes, it would be easier to defend the title back home, but that's not my way.

BoxingScene: This is your American debut. Are you planning to come here early so you can get accustomed to your surroundings, or will you come late, like right before the weigh-in? When are you flying here?

Jan Zaveck: I've been in the U.S.A. a few times and everywhere I went, I always felt good and welcome by people. If I could choose it, I would make all the preparations for the fight to be in the U.S. However, we're coming around two and a half weeks before the fight so we'll have enough time for acclimating to the area and having final sparring. Indeed, this is my first professional fight in America, but it is not the last one!

BoxingScene: Berto and his trainer, Tony Morgan, said you're a pressure fighter who comes forward with his hands up. In the video I sent you, Morgan said you're powerful with a tight defense, but in his words, "a Winky Wright with no jab." Do you agree or disagree? How would you describe your style?

Jan Zaveck: Like they are looking for my weak points, we're also looking for his. I'll try to do my best with my jab, although as they are saying, it might not be the best. Anyway, things in the ring can change. You can do in the ring what the opponent lets you do.

BoxingScene: Now it's your turn. What do you think about Berto's style? What does your trainer think about Berto's style?

Jan Zaveck: It wouldn't be proper if I say what Andre's pluses and minuses are. Generally looking, he's a great fighter and it's actually difficult to find what he does badly. I'd rather focus on my advantages. Everybody in our team, including my coach, Dirk Dzemski, and my strength coach, Tomi Jagarinec, is sure that Andre is a great fighter. But definitely, like everyone, he's not unbeatable. BoxingScene: I watched Berto spar this week, and he's very fast, especially with his double left hook. However, he showed in the Ortiz fight than he can be hit and he can be hurt. How do you plan on beating Berto?

Jan Zaveck: Too bad you didn't come to my training. (Laughs) Anyway, everybody has his own strategy and vision but you can't be sure to realize your plans until you're in the ring and until you feel the opponent. However, I expect a great fight, a great performance from both of us, a lot of action, adrenaline, and exciting boxing.

BoxingScene: You only have one loss to consensus top ten welterweight Rafal Jackiewicz in 2008, which you avenged last September. What was the difference between the first fight, the rematch, and today? What weaknesses have you improved?

Jan Zaveck: The main difference between our first and second fight against Jackiewicz was that last September when I won, I didn't defend my title, although I was the champion. I was more offensive than in our fight on 2008 where I was counting points and defending more. That fight in Poland was a really great test and excellent schooling for me, and it showed me a lot of things.

BoxingScene: Right now, everyone in America is predicting Berto to win even though they probably have never seen you fight. What do you have to say to those people who aren't giving you a chance to win?

Jan Zaveck: I recommend these people relax, sit down in front of the T.V. or live in Biloxi, and enjoy the fight. I will show them they were wrong with their anticipation and conclusions about the winner. The essence is often hidden to the eyes.

BoxingScene: Can you give your prediction on how you think the fight will end?

Jan Zaveck: Worst-case scenario is my confident points victory. Please watch my video "Calling Out" (LINK: http:// www.youtube.com/watch? v=VWwWLZwDRR4 ) so you can learn more about me and my intentions.

vir: boxingscene.com/zaveck-hiding-belt-europe-immoral-berto-beatable--42400

Bravo Dejan, dobro je povedal!

lol najcenejša karta bo 50$...

no ja, če bi bile karte v sloveniji po 50$, ne bi bilo 12k ljudi v stožicah garantirano. je pa res, da so tudi v ameriki za kake dobre borbe dosti cenejše, recimo 20$ je bila mislim da za zadnjo borbo saula alvareza.

ps: sicer bo pa itak zastonj po TV, tako da bo večina verjetno kar na zaslonih gledala. no tudi to šteje konec koncev.

ce se ne motim je bila najcenejsa karta za delgada 15 eur. je pa res da so stozice precej vecje in je to na nek nacin normalno, saj so bile najcenejse karte bolj navzven in si manj dobro videl. v biloxiju je pa itak dvorana manjsa in cenejsih kart pac ni. ok makes sense. vseeno bo pomoje presenetilo americane ko bo tam vec fanov od zavca kot pa od berta LOL.

se spomnite kako so se srbi skor podelal v hlace ko je slovenska repka igrala tam, ker je blo vec slovencev kot srbov :))

Dobra analiza dvoboja : (14 min!)

Škoda da ni več! Takšen posnetek bi že celo lahko Dejanu pred tem dvobojem predvajal za še dodatno motivacijo. :)

V ZDA so taki fajti običajno v kazino-hotelskim kompleksih. Zavec je v ZDA precej neznano ime, zato ni čudno, da so ga dali v en manjši kazino. Ne moreš kr takoj boksat v Las Vegasu, najprej si moraš v ZDA ime nardit.

na stavnicah je zaenkrat 4:1 za berta, ceprav razlika v kvaliteti definitivno ni toliksna.
za americane je itak vsak ne-ameriski/angleski boksar 'kr nekdo', ceprav faktualno se ravno po svetu kvaliteta konkurence dviguje. amerika ima vse manj vrhunskih boksarjev.
kar se tice berta upostevaj, da je bil ze pred borbo z ortizom resen kandidat za pacquiaota in druge velike borbe. to samo pove kako medijsko sproducirana zvezda je. zavec je premagal po kvaliteti skoraj enakovredne borce (le enega manj), pa vsi o njem govorijo kot da nima pojma. ha! osebno bertu priznam zmago samo ce zavca totalno dominira in zmaga s KO. vsak drug nacin se zna izroditi.

Ja revež, kaj mu pa delajo?

Videl sem precej vrhuncev Berto - Ortiz, zato sem se odločil pogledati celoten dvoboj.

Ojej, JOJ, bleh, haha!

Berto ni imel za pol bureka, resno! Če odštejem vse runde v katerih sta en drugega KD-jala, je Berto zmagal LE ENO rundo v kateri je bil Ortiz opozorjen s strani sodnika zaradi udarca v glavo od zadaj. Ortiz je dobil 9 rund (2x KD), Berto 3 (2x KD). Berto je prvih šest rund samo čakal na večjo napako Ortiza, katere pa ni in ni dočakal. Ortiz je bil videti kondicijsko 2x bolj pripravljen od Berta. Sodnik se je nenormalno veliko vmešaval v dvoboj in če sem malce zloben, celo reševal Berta, da ni odletel s KO. Še komentatorja sta se pritoževala, da nista prišla gledat sodnika! Skratka v tem dvoboju res ne vem, kako bi lahko Bertu pripisal dobro pozicijo, ker praktično ni skoraj nič spacal skupaj. V določenih trenutkih je samo krilil proti Ortizu, pol udarcev seveda mimo. Ortiz ga je ves čas napadal in Berto praktično ni imel možnosti za napad, ker je Ortiz že od prve runde naprej nenormalno pritiskal. Sem mislil, da bo Ortiza tam okoli 8-9 ali 10. runde načelo in da bo Berto to izkoristil. Ah, kje. Še zadnje štiri runde ga je nabliskal. Promotorji so naredili svoje in na Youtube uploadali nekaj dobrih zadetkov Berta, katere so morali pri tem dvoboju iskati z lupo.

Udarci v glavo :

Berto ---> Ortiz 132
Ortiz ---> Berto 200

Udarci v telo :
Berto ---> Ortiz 15
Ortiz ---> Berto 82

12 rund je preživel samo zaradi sodnika. Berto ni imel šans!

Aydin?? Uf, ta Turek je bomba. Še neporažen.

Tilen, če si pogledal cel dvoboj, se najbrž spomniš 6. runde. Ortiz je bil tam že skoraj fertik, na trenutke je zgledalo, da sodnik čaka, kdaj bo pokazal TKO. Berto udari, Ortiz pade. Pol pa nekaj sekund pred koncem Ortiz položi Berta.

Treba stavni račun počasi nafilat :), da bo toliko slajše ko bo namahal Berta.

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Kako je zdaj s temi pasovi- a tipu pas ostane, ko ga enkrat osvoji ali pa ga mora vrnit, če/ko kdaj zgubi pred izzivalcem ?