bio hacking, prehranska dopolnila

Legon je 31. okt 2025 ob 16:28:38 izjavil:

tikitoki je 31. okt 2025 ob 08:22:55 izjavil:

Legon je 30. okt 2025 ob 17:45:45 izjavil:

Sam kaj ko dejanske studije kazejo, da je na zahodu ca 6%-8% populacije, ki ima deficit vitamina b12. Nad 60 let pa procent zraste na 20%. Za vse ostale je jemanje b12 namenjeno drazji proizvodnji urina. Na sreco ni topen v mascobah in vsaj skodljiv ni.

Ce spadas med tisti, ki jim primankuje ima izredno unicujoce, in lahko trajne posledice za zdravje.

Pa k si sanjal o zdravnikih. Zenska je zaradi pomankanja vitamina B12 koncala na vozicku. Je sla k zdravniku, pa so jo zafurali. Pazi to, enostaven test, ducat inekcij, pa ne bi koncala na vozicku.

Res je, da vecina ne potrebuje. Sam ljudje tvojega kova so tudi med zdravniki, ki nato zafurajo paciente.

Zaradi deleza populacije, ki trpi pomankanje, bi morali biti tovrstni testi rutinski. Tko, k holesterol in glukoza.

BTW. Pri moji babici tu tudi niso nic naredili. V Avstraliji so imeli malce bolj napredno politiko preiskav in so odkrili pomankanje vitamina B12. Ce zivis v slabem zdravstvenem sistemu ti obisk zdravnika lahko ne pomaga.

In kaj imajo te blodnje s vsesplosnim in nediskriminatornim glodanjem raznih tabletk in praskov o cemer je tukaj govora?

Ja, ce sodis v manjsino, ki ima deficit potem je to treba sanirat, samo govora v tej temi je vse kaj drugega.

Longevity je včeraj ob 15:26:58 izjavil:

Meni je pa za nekaj 5-10% vredno investirat nekaj 100€ letno. Lahko je prav to razlika med kakšnim rakom ki te pokoplje tem da se rešiš ali pa sploh ne zboliš.

You might think that
correlational research and experimental research would
normally reach the same results. You can say an awful lot of
sentences that are the same about those two types of studies. But, in fact, it's surprisingly
often the case that it's not true that the correlation result is
the same as the experimental result. So let's look at the case of Vitamin E and
prostate cancer. Vitamin E, in the correlational studies, turns out to be correlated with
a lower likelihood of prostate cancer. So, naturally, we're beginning to think, maybe Vitamin E lowers
the likelihood of prostate cancer. But, there are all kinds of differences
between people who take Vitamin E and those who don't. Sounds like a health thing to do,
take that vitamin, and people with more money are more
likely to be taking the Vitamin E. And more money is associated with
lower mortality for almost everything. People who are more educated,
paying attention to what the health journals are recommending
are more likely to do that. More educated people tend to
take better care of themselves, have better diets and so on. So, it's really very
problematic to just say, people who take Vitamin E are less
likely to have prostate cancer. because there's so
much else that could be different, so much in the way of a confound,
like we talked about in the last lesson. What you have to do is to apply
the Gold Standard of Research, which is the randomized
controlled experiment. You flip a coin, proverbially, some times these days you would use
a random generator device to see who gets the experimental treatment and
who gets the control treatment. And then you measure the outcome. Now, the beauty of the experiment is that
we know that people in the experimental condition are essentially the same as the
people who are in the control condition. Because they had an equal chance of
being in one condition versus the other. So, we're going to have equal
social class, on average, equal number of rich people between
experimental and control conditions. Identical diets, on the average. going to, just people who have
a particularly good diet, they're going to be equally like
you to be in either condition. So when you do this experiment, you get
rid of all the possible confounds, and what you find is that Vitamin E
makes prostate cancer more likely. This kind of pattern happens quite often. For example, with hormone replacement
therapy for menopausal women, couple three decades ago a doctor started
giving women hormone replacements as their hormone status changed, and it was
found that women who had the hormone replacement therapy had less
cardiovascular disease. So hundreds of thousands of women, partly on the basis of that finding,
were given hormone replacement therapy. When you do the experiments it turns
out hormone replacement therapy increases cardiovascular illness. The same kind of story's told for
supplements of all kinds. Selenium for prevention of cancer. You know how the people who
take selenium just because they thought it was a good idea are less likely
to have cancers of various kinds, but the experiments show it's useless. The same thing is true is for glucosamine
for arthritis, Vitamin C for prevention of the common cold, Vitamin B12 for cognitive
function in the elderly and so on. In fact, most of the supplements
that have ever been tested, you find effects in the correlational
studies but not in the experiments. And when you do find
effects in the experiments, they're usually much larger
in the correlational studies. This generalization, by the way,
all of these generalizations that I've just been making, apply to healthy
people with an adequate diet. If you've got a selenium deficiency, you're going to be better off
if you get some selenium. But if you're just an ordinary healthy
person with an ordinary healthy diet, very few supplements
are going to do you any good. There are actually 50,000
supplements on the market. Hardly any of them are tested. Our government does not require
testing of supplements. It doesn't even require you to put
selenium, or whatever, in your pill. You can put saw dust, and
indeed, there some major chain stores where you're going to get
saw dust rather than selenium. And here's a fairly exhaustive list of
the ones that have actually been found effective. Probiotics for gut health, zinc for
shortening duration of colds, CoQ10 for cardiovascular health,
fish oil for cardiovascular health and various other purposes,
zinc for a number of purposes, Vitamin D3 for
prevention of fractures in the elderly. If your supplement is not on this list,
I suggest you go to Cochrane Reviews or some other medical website
which can tell you what would be a good
supplement to be taking. This applies not just to supplements,
but every kind of health practice.

Longevity je včeraj ob 19:00:07 izjavil:

Torej avtomatsko rabiš dodatke.

Longevity je včeraj ob 19:00:07 izjavil:

Potem imaš pa se takše kot je recimo spermidin, ki ti v eni tabletki da tolko kot da bi dnevno pojedo 150-200g brokolija. Meni je sicer brokoli dober ampak vsak dan se mi ga pa neda na pari kuhat. Že zarad tega da bi mogo konstantno v trgovino hodit po njega mi je potem dost bol na easy eno tabletko pojest na dan. Omega 3 dobiš lahk z rib, kar pa mi tudi ni do tega da bi vsak dan ribe jedo

tilen03 je včeraj ob 19:43:27 izjavil:

Longevity je včeraj ob 19:00:07 izjavil:

Torej avtomatsko rabiš dodatke.

Ne jih ne. Če jih, potem pretiravaš, kar pa ni značilno za zdravega človeka. Ne mešat športnike in zdrave ljudi.

Longevity je včeraj ob 19:00:07 izjavil:

Potem imaš pa se takše kot je recimo spermidin, ki ti v eni tabletki da tolko kot da bi dnevno pojedo 150-200g brokolija. Meni je sicer brokoli dober ampak vsak dan se mi ga pa neda na pari kuhat. Že zarad tega da bi mogo konstantno v trgovino hodit po njega mi je potem dost bol na easy eno tabletko pojest na dan. Omega 3 dobiš lahk z rib, kar pa mi tudi ni do tega da bi vsak dan ribe jedo

Glej, če piše priporočeni dnevni vnos to še ne pomeni, da moraš dejansko vsak dan(ali vsak teden) to izpolniti. Zdrav človek namreč ne, ker tudi zdravo telo tega ne zahteva.

pegasus je včeraj ob 18:11:22 izjavil:

Longevity je včeraj ob 15:26:58 izjavil:

Meni je pa za nekaj 5-10% vredno investirat nekaj 100EUR letno. Lahko je prav to razlika med kakšnim rakom ki te pokoplje tem da se rešiš ali pa sploh ne zboliš.

Poznam ljudi, ki so non-stop žrli neke vitamine in od njih fasali raka. Tudi vitamin c je rakotvoren v velikih količinah. Konec koncu se lahko ubiješ tudi z vodo, a je to zelo boleč način. Tako da ... Ključ je v zmernosti. Vsako pretiravanje zna privesti so problemov.