Gospodarska kriza 2018

Ko mu bodo nacionalizirali in ekspropriirali mu bo še žal.

Jaz si žal tvojega argumentiranja ne morem predstavljati drugače, kot da se tvoj mindset vrti zgolj okoli tega kaj naj bi s prisilo vsilili vsem. Ker ti si tista, ki zvleče dialog na ta nivo.

Truga je 11. feb 2018 ob 02:17 izjavil:

Avani: Ja.

https://theintercept.com/2018/02/08/sto...

And if inflation is coming, then the Federal Reserve is likely to raise interest rates to slow down the economy and cool off the inflation. When the Fed raises interest rates, bonds become more attractive, so people move money from stocks to bonds -- and the stock market dives. It becomes harder to borrow, so businesses and homeowners have less capital to throw around. Profits get squeezed by high-interest payments. And as interest rates rise, the value of older bonds, which pay out a lower interest rate, goes down. So people are losing money all over the place. All because wages started to go up.

Everything in the structure of the economy, then, is geared toward making sure that wages never rise. And for nearly half a century, this task has been accomplished. Wages haven't budged since the 1970s.

If your life was stagnating, falling apart, overwhelming you with rage, despair, and anxiety, and I came along and asked you — “Hey! Do you want free trade for hedge funds and corporations, or a decent life for you and your grandkids?” you’d laugh at me, wouldn’t you?

In retrospect, we’ll see that the first great trade war of the 21st century was Brexit. The second, Trump’s tariffs. The third, retaliation from China and Europe. I read a tweet from a renowned American intellectual saying “well, thank goodness these trade wars might prevent real wars.” I had to laugh. Trade wars, of course, precede real ones.

The global economy has long been broken for humans. And now it is beginning to fall apart — to fracture and shatter and collapse. The cultural side is xenophobia and bigotry and extremism. But the economic side is a retreat into bitter isolationism, conflict, broken agreements, desperate squabbles over the morsels of an economy that cannot seem to provide for all. Why else, after all, would we be fighting?

Whatever you want to call it — globalization, neoliberalism, capitalism, it doesn’t matter too much — the global economy is broken thus. While the super rich got mega richer, the average person’s income has stagnated. His real quality of life has fallen — the average Brit or American now faces living standards lower than his parents or grandparents. He has little safety, security, or stability. Social bonds got blown apart, as life became something like a strip-mall. He feels alienated, alone, and desperate. He is overwhelmed by anxiety — because no matter how he seems to follow the rules, his life only gets worse.

So this global system is not benefitting the average person in any real way — financially, socially, culturally, relationally, politically, economically. It might give him cheaper TVs and drugs to numb the pain with — but soothing the pain away isn’t happiness, unless, like an economist, your idea of what human life really means is as hollow as a false smile.

Trade has come at three prices. Democracy. Society. Livability. Who would make such a bargain — trading that jacks up profits, but only at the price of democracy, society, and livability? No one, in the end — except the economists, intellectuals, and elites who have never really seen (just read the now much-mocked NYT op-ed page) these things as benefits to begin with. For them, democracy, society, and livability were burdens, stains, things better erased, never allowed to be, pure losses — the less of them around, the more efficiently consumers and workers could be disciplined. That was the very premise of American capitalism going global.

Now the elite, the intellectual, the economist, does not have to live with the consequences of his theories. He does not have to live in a broken down industrial town where the last factory has closed and that’s left is opioids, guns, and prostitution. But the average person does — and no one can really live that way, you see, for long. There comes a time when he will desperately seek safety, security, and stability, by whatever means are available — even if those means are strongmen, fascists, and dictators.

So the average person has been forced into a dilemma — he cannot have democracy, society and livability. But perhaps he can regain safety, stability, and security — if he revolts against the global order. That is what these “trade wars” really are.

Mr.B je 6. mar 2018 ob 07:40 izjavil:

Razen francoske, pa danes tudi tam ni kaj bolje, se bo bore malo spremelnilo.

Mr.B je 6. mar 2018 ob 07:40 izjavil:

Pac tako kot se koroski slovenski fasisticni studenje derejo po dunajo o slabosti kapitalizma. Spokajte se v slovenijo ali pa v venezuelo.

Mr.B je 6. mar 2018 ob 07:25 izjavil:

Tuga,
Lahko se kaj vec poves, kaj si mislil ko si copy paste tega clanka prilimal. Konec si pozabil..

jype je 6. mar 2018 ob 08:59 izjavil:

gruntfürmich je 6. mar 2018 ob 08:48 izjavil:

rop

Da je nekaj tvoje, je le družbena pogodba

nurmaln je 6. mar 2018 ob 09:08 izjavil:

čeprav bi bilo brez kapitalistov današnjim revežem neprimerno slabše kot jim je.

nurmaln je 6. mar 2018 ob 09:08 izjavil:

Tako se uničujejo cele generacije.

Mr.B je 6. mar 2018 ob 09:29 izjavil:

In kje je tu upoštevana inflacija.

In kaj si želel s tem povedat?
Sej to da v družbah obstaja neenakost je vsem jasno.

nurmaln je 6. mar 2018 ob 09:52 izjavil:

Ko se jih bo 10 dogovorilo in bodo skupaj kupili traktor (postali bodo torej kapitalisti), bo skupna produktivnost skočila za tisočkrat, torej za vsakega x100.

absolutna revščina

Truga je 6. mar 2018 ob 09:38 izjavil:

nurmaln je 6. mar 2018 ob 09:25 izjavil:

looser je 6. mar 2018 ob 10:27 izjavil:

Dice7, moram ti povedati, očitno še sam nisi opazil ali pa si me s kom zamenjal, nimam vpliva na to, kako se talajo subvencija za kmetije/traktorje.
In prav teh nekaj miljončkov za traktorje, ki te tako močno motijo, bo rešilo problem svetovne neenakosti? Očitno je, da imaš ti do nekaterih vcepljeno averzijo, ampak problemov se, ker jih očitno resnično izven svojega majhnega kotička, ne vidiš, ne razumeš, kaj šele, da bi imel vpliv nanje.

looser je 6. mar 2018 ob 10:43 izjavil:

Ampak vas to moti, da ni vse enako

looser je 6. mar 2018 ob 10:05 izjavil:

Kaj je boljše, da smo vsi enaki in enako revni?
Ali da nismo vsi enaki in nismo enako revni?

thramos je 6. mar 2018 ob 10:27 izjavil:

Truga je 6. mar 2018 ob 09:38 izjavil:

nurmaln je 6. mar 2018 ob 09:25 izjavil:

Skratka današnji sistem, kakorkoli ga že imenujemo, prvič v zgodovini človeštva množice vleče iz revščine.

Tebi pa ni všeč, ker se povečuje neenakost?

Ti je torej bolj všeč bilo prej, ko je bilo več ljudi revnih, a bolj enakih?