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grandioso74 ::

glupe izjave tega j. horvata v globusu, ta še sliši travo ko raste, dobro, da mu kahla ne naseda. že zdavnaj sem ugotovil zakaj je slo takšna kot je, ker se lahko vsakdo ukvarja s politiko, slo parlament je dobesedno kot cirk. arena, 3/4 klovnov,1/4 pajacev.
Človek je sam svoj največji sovražnik.

Pac-Man ::

Navalni o požaru. 11 minut, angleški podnapisi.

The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Pac-Man ::

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald...

President Donald Trump's national security advisers spent months trying to convince him to sign off on a plan to supply new U.S. weapons to Ukraine to aid in the country's fight against Russian-backed separatists, according to multiple senior administration officials.

Yet when the president finally authorized the major policy shift, he told his aides not to publicly tout his decision, officials said. Doing so, Trump argued, might agitate Russian President Vladimir Putin, according to the officials.

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Behind the scenes, however, Trump has recently taken a sharper tone on Putin, administration officials said, but the shift seems more a reaction to the Russian leader challenging the president's strength than a new belief that he's an adversary. Putin's claim earlier this month that Russia has new nuclear-capable weapons that could hit the U.S., a threat he underscored with video simulating an attack, "really got under the president's skin," one official said.

So much so that after hearing Putin’s speech, Trump called the leaders of France, Germany and the U.K. to say the Russian leader sounded dangerous, so the four of them needed to stick together, according to a White House official familiar with the calls.

Two officials said Trump told Putin during a phone call last week after Putin's re-election: "If you want to have an arms race we can do that, but I'll win." Trump added that he hoped that Putin’s comments were just election rhetoric and bragged that he’d just secured a $700 billion defense budget, the largest the U.S. has ever had, he said, according to one of the officials.

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Rex Tillerson, Trump's outgoing secretary of state, led the effort to convince Trump to approve the new arms for Ukraine, officials said. The plan, which Russia opposed, included the sale of U.S.-made Javelin anti-tank missiles that Kiev has for years requested from Washington. President Barack Obama had repeatedly refused to approve Ukraine's request out of concern it would escalate U.S. tensions with Russia.

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As the policy sat on his desk awaiting his signature, the president expressed concern that it would escalate tensions with Russia and lead to a broader conflict, officials said. They said he also saw Ukraine as a problem for Europe and questioned why he should have to do something about it. And he insisted Ukraine purchase the arms from the U.S., not receive them for free, officials said, before signing off on the policy in December.

"Tillerson just wore him down," a White House official said.

But Trump's ambivalence didn't end, officials said. In one instance afterward, Trump complained to his national security adviser, H.R. McMaster, that his decision could really escalate the situation in Ukraine to a war. McMaster, who was recently ousted, responded by telling the president there already is a war there, to which Trump shot back that the U.S. is not in it, an official said.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

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Mr.B ::

France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold

Pac-Man ::

https://twitter.com/ichbinilya/status/9...

Russian journalist Yevgeniy Levkovich has written a short post about Igor Vostrikov, the man from Kemerovo who lost his entire family in the shopping center fire. In a matter of days, Vostrikov has flipped from blaming the regime to blaming the opposition. My translation:


28. marec

https://twitter.com/MaxBoot/status/9787...

Igor Vostrikov, who lost his wife, three children and a sister in the fire, wrote: “I no longer have a family. The ruling regime is guilty. Every bureaucrat dreams of stealing like Putin. Every state functionary treats people like garbage.”


29. marec

https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/statu...

Igor Vostrikov, the man who lost his whole family in the Kemerovo fire, does a 180º after organizing a massive protest against the local govt. Now he's calling Putin his tsar, gushing over the governor, and blaming “Maidanites” for hijacking his grief. Yikes.



1984.press
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Mr.B ::

Pac-Mam,
ko se bo s twixicem zgodilo enko kot s FB-jem, bo pa težava.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold

Pac-Man ::

The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Mr.B ::

Paci, samo zate
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold

Pac-Man ::

Da, lep del JDM odpada z volanom na desni konča v Rusiji, saj si lokalci boljšega ne morejo privoščiti.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Mr.B ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Da, lep del JDM odpada z volanom na desni konča v Rusiji, saj si lokalci boljšega ne morejo privoščiti.

Ne znam rusk, zato je lahko prevod napisan ustrezno...., posledicno ne morem priti do lastnega mnenja... prva ideja mi pride na pamet sledeca...
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold

Pac-Man ::

off, čisti amaterji:

https://thinkprogress.org/trumps-lawyer...

The scandal surrounding Stormy Daniels, the adult film actress who claims to have had an affair with Donald Trump, just got worse.

It started when David Schwartz, an attorney for Donald Trump’s attorney Michael Cohen, appeared on CNN last night. Schwartz told CNN’s Erin Burnett that Trump “was not aware of” the non-disclosure contract signed by Stormy Daniels and “wasn’t told about it.”

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Schwartz’s argument is that there was a binding contract between Daniels and EC LLC, the shell corporation set up by Michael Cohen, and Trump was a “third party beneficiary” of the contract.

The problem for Schwartz, Cohen, and Trump is that the contract was not constructed in a way to make that possible. Part of the inducement for Daniels to sign the contract, explicitly, were things that only Donald Trump himself (referred to in the contract, and by Schwartz, as “DD”) could provide.

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But if Trump is not a party to the contract — and Schwartz has admitted he was not — Trump cannot provide such a warranty. Thus, Daniels was “materially induced” to sign a contract with a false promise. In other words, Schwartz’s definitive statement that Trump was not a party greatly increases the chances that a court will invalidate this contract.

Even if a court decided the contract is valid somehow, Schwartz’s claim that the president is not a party to it does significant damage to Trump. The case is now in federal court. Trump and Cohen are seeking to avoid having to sit for a deposition, or be subject to additional discovery, by pushing the dispute back into secret arbitration.

But the contract only allows Trump, not Cohen’s shell corporation, to resolve disputes in arbitration under section 5.13 and 5.2 of the agreement. Trump can’t take advantage of an arbitration agreement that he is not a party to and knows nothing about.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Mr.B ::

Ves paxi, ce ti nihce se ni rekel, so tvoje objave na nivoju lady. Verjetno tudi samo v tvoji glavi full relevantno o natu..
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold

Pac-Man ::

Je bilo več tem namenjenih točno takemu materialu, ampak so jih po vašem teženju zaprli. Tako da suck it up, buttercup.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Pac-Man ::

https://twitter.com/aronlund/status/980...

José Bustani, first head of the OPCW, reminisces about how he was run out of the organization by John Bolton as the United States geared up to invade Iraq.
https://theintercept.com/2018/03/29/joh...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Pac-Man ::

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/31/worl...

Russia’s Feared ‘Night Wolves’ Bike Gang Came to Bosnia. Bosnia Giggled.

The Night Wolves, a Russian motorcycle gang known as Putin’s Angels and widely feared as agents of meddling and mayhem beyond Russia’s borders, provoked more bemusement and giggles than awe on their latest outing, a nine-day tour of the Balkans designed to show that Russia still had some fervent friends left in Europe.

Instead of roaring into town amid throbbing engines and clouds of smoke, the tattooed, potbellied bikers arrived by car and minivan in Banja Luka, the capital of Republika Srpska, a would-be state born in bloodshed during the Balkan wars of the 1990s.

Anxious about the cold weather, they left their bikes behind in Moscow but did bring along leather vests, an icon of the Virgin Mary and a “press secretary,” a snarling Russian woman whose main job was to keep away the press.

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The Night Wolves billed their tour, funded with a $41,000 grant from the Kremlin, as a “pilgrimage” meant to showcase the shared Orthodox faith of Russia and the region, at least the bits of it inhabited by ethnic Serbs like Republika Srpska, which is legally part of Bosnia and Herzegovina.

But they enveloped their activities — mainly visits to churches and drinking sessions with local nationalist hot heads — in such secrecy that they stoked concern over what Russia is up to in Bosnia, a rickety state backed by the West but undermined from within by the Republika Srpska, which covers about half its territory and wants to secede.

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Sending bikers without bikes, Mr. Trifunovic noted, was much cheaper than sending hard cash, with which Moscow has been extremely sparing.

Mr. Dodik, the Republika Srpska’s president, complained in an interview that, despite his frequent meetings with Russia’s president, Vladimir V. Putin, he was still waiting for Moscow to follow through on what he said was a 2014 promise to provide his government with loans of at least $625 million.

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Instead, Mr. Dodik got the Night Wolves, such a motley crew that one local newspaper asked whether it would not have been better for Moscow to send some ballet dancers.

“They looked pathetic; even I am taller than they are,” said Srdjan Puhalo, a bookish, ethnic Serb psychologist who posed with the bikers for photos outside Christ the Savior Cathedral in Banja Luka, perhaps the most enthusiastically pro-Russian city outside Russia.

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While claiming not to know much about the Night Wolves, Mr. Dodik in January gave a medal to their leader, Alexander Zaldostanov, a burly bruiser and friend of Mr. Putin’s, to honor what he described as the biker’s contribution to human rights, the rule of law and relations between Republika Srpska and Russia.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

c3p0 ::

Paco, ti imaš sploh kake kriterije pri c&p? Videt ni... Je kaka mačka v Moskvi na drevesu, pa tu še ne vemo?

Pac-Man ::

Da se je Bolton po mafijsko znebil direktorja OPCW morda ni povsem v temi, je pa toliko bolj zanimivo. Tovrstna politika ustreza tudi Rusiji, saj avtomatsko ruši vsa zavezništva, ki ZDA delajo za velesilo.

Da ima republika Srpska že 4 leta obljubljenih 600 mio ruskih posojil, zadovoljiti se morajo pa z nočnimi volkovi brez mopedov pa vsekakor spada sem. Ex-Yu je cona konflikta med Rusijo in natom.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Pac-Man ::

september 1985

http://articles.latimes.com/1985-09-15/...

The Soviet Union on Saturday ordered the expulsion of 25 British Embassy staffers, journalists and businessmen in retaliation for Britain's expulsion two days earlier of 25 Soviet citizens accused of spying.

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There is precedent for such a low-key response. When Britain expelled a record 105 Soviet citizens in April, 1971, on charges of spying, Moscow retaliated by ousting only 18 Britons.

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When it announced the Soviet expulsions, Britain said it was acting on information supplied by Oleg A. Gordievski, a Soviet diplomat identified as the London "resident," or chief of KGB espionage operations, in Britain. In what is regarded as the most important British intelligence coup in two decades, Gordievski, 46, defected in London and has been granted political asylum.

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Diplomats noted that when France expelled 47 Soviet officials for spying in 1983, Moscow took no retaliatory action at all.



Oleg Gordievsky @ Wikipedia

Oleg Antonovich Gordievsky, CMG (Оле́г Анто́нович Гордие́вский; born 10 October 1938) is a former colonel of the KGB and KGB resident-designate (rezident) and bureau chief in London, who was a secret agent of the British Secret Intelligence Service from 1974 to 1985.

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In April 2008, the media reported that on 2 November 2007, Gordievsky had been taken by ambulance from his home in Surrey to a local hospital, where he spent 34 hours unconscious. Gordievsky claimed that he was poisoned with thallium by "rogue elements in Moscow". He accused MI6 of forcing Special Branch to drop its early investigations into his allegations; according to him, the investigation was only reopened thanks to the intervention of former MI5 Director General Eliza Manningham-Buller.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Pac-Man ::

Gorila mindset je tako beta. V prvih dveh minutah bo vse jasno.

The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

nsa_ag3nt ::

Resnica v ZDA je že dolgo izgubljena.
https://gizmodo.com/c/goodbye-big-five

Fritz ::

Jp, ne si domišljati, da je svet zabredel v vse to s Trumpom. Težave so bistveno globlje in segajo v same temelje ustroja ZDA, EU in zahodnega sveta. To je težava demokracije, če ji lahko tako sploh še rečemo. To seveda ni težava avtoritarnih sistemov, zato nam Rusija in Kitajska nista tako nevarni, kot se zdi. Najbolj nevarna zahodnim državam sta razgradnja demokratičnega sistema in drsenje v fašizem (korporatizem).

Če že govorimo o tem, najbolj slikovit prikaz stanja (vsaj zame) poda naslednji odlomek nadaljevanke Newsroom:
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein

Cervantes ::

Futraš trola, Fricko?

Fritz ::

Bolj odgovarjam nsa_ag3ntu ampak ja, včasih me res popade šibkost 8-).

Obrambni proračun ZDA je 600 mlrd. US doloresov, Rusije 40 mlrd. USD in Kitajske 160 mlrd. USD (in raste). Za ZDA so največja težava Kitajci, za NATO/EU države pa islamistični fanatiki. Rusija je predvsem hvaležna tema za časopise in pain in the ass za nekatere, v določenih državah (Sirija, Libija ipd.)
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein

Pac-Man ::

Hehe. V (belo)ruščini, ampak se glavno razume.

https://twitter.com/1863x/status/980524...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Cervantes ::

En IMHO še kar realističen pogled na predmet te teme:

http://nationalinterest.org/feature/ame...

coffeetime12 ::

Cervantes je izjavil:

Futraš trola, Fricko?

Dajmo ga še malo, ker brihten tako ali tako ni.

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Hehe. V (belo)ruščini, ampak se glavno razume.
https://twitter.com/1863x/status/980524...

Pac-Man ::

Kul, ena mojih najljubših TV serij.

Sorkin je genij.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Pac-Man ::

http://www.newsweek.com/putins-secret-p...

Vladimir Putin’s ideology is a conservative message, addressed not only to Russian-speakers but to all European citizens. For the Kremlin, it’s a closed case: Europe is in a state of economic decline and moral decadence.

Putin believes that hostility towards Islam and the protests linked to same-sex marriage in France are of profound significance. From this a fantastical picture emerges, whereby a small group of ultra-modernists, inspired by American-style theories, are apparently surreptitiously seeking to impose reforms on the population that would lead to major anthropological changes, not least the suppression of reproduction.

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The Russian conservative turn, then, must be exported, and Putin sees himself as the harbinger of that anti-modernist movement. With this in mind, Russia implanted ‘Institutes of Democracy and Cooperation’ in New York and Paris in 2007. Their objective is to promote the values of the new Russia.

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The desire to raise the global profile of Russia as the motherland of conservatism can also be felt in the ever-closer ties established with far-right populist movements, in particular the French National Front.

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Putin awaits the rise to power of populist parties so that he can become Europe’s leader—and to make this happen he has committed all necessary resources, financial and otherwise. For Vladimir Putin, anything that could serve to divide or weaken Europe should be encouraged.

As the Trump White House contemplates a disengagement from Europe’s defence in a rejection of NATO, Putin dreams of a continent on its knees, worn down by separatist movements and dominated by a new conservative leader: himself. He is lying in wait for the post-Merkel era, when he can make a bigger move. This approach is a subtle one. Instead of directly attacking his European neighbours, Putin encourages European populations to rise up against their leaders.

He is sending a digital Trojan horse into a whole series of democracies, and encouraging their own citizens to make use of them. Even more cunning than Ulysses, the Russian president appears to have convinced the Trojans to overthrow Priam and sack the city themselves.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Mr.B ::

Pac-Man,
Če iščeš novice iz domovine, ti predlagam da si izbereš http://tass.com/. Oni oglašujejo Ruska agencija. V večini na tem forumu pa Don't give a fuck, glede rumenega tiska, kdaj je puler odpru novo restavracijo, al donnald namočil, ker mu slovenka ni dala.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold

Vanich ::

Iatromantis ::

Mr.B je izjavil:

... V večini na tem forumu pa Don't give a fuck, glede rumenega tiska, kdaj je puler odpru novo restavracijo, al donnald namočil, ker mu slovenka ni dala.

Pa se prosim odstrani iz te debate, ne pa da kar naprej ponavljaš, da te ne zanima. Nekateri pa radi preberemo novice zbrane tukaj.

Mr.B ::

Iatromantis je izjavil:

Mr.B je izjavil:

... V večini na tem forumu pa Don't give a fuck, glede rumenega tiska, kdaj je puler odpru novo restavracijo, al donnald namočil, ker mu slovenka ni dala.

Pa se prosim odstrani iz te debate, ne pa da kar naprej ponavljaš, da te ne zanima. Nekateri pa radi preberemo novice zbrane tukaj.

Torej goreča trgovina bogu iza leđa je relativna za debato NATO in RUSIJA. Morda bi bilo potrebno narediti relevanten naslov. Iatromantis-eva tema o dnevnih dogodkih iz Rusije. Morda bo pomagalo tebi v slušnem razumskem dojemanju. Morda bo pa Paxi odpru temo, Rusiaj über alles not, ker vsaj Amerika über alles tema ne obstaja.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold

Pac-Man ::

Vanich je izjavil:

Litvinjenkov oče verjame, da so njegovega sina zastrupile zahodne službe, predvsem kaže na angleške tajne službe. Skripalja pa ravno tako.

Beseda 40-something vohuna na smrtni postelji ni nič vredna? Je treba poslušat njegovega fotra?

Okej, Walterjeva zgodba je zanimiva. Follow tha money. Najprej se je strinjal s sinom.

november 2006

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2006/nov...

From the steps of the University College hospital yesterday, the finger pointing at the Kremlin, which friends of Mr Litvinenko have been engaged in all week in a polished PR campaign, was echoed with less aplomb and more emotion by the dead man's father, Walter, who had flown in from Russia.

He too voiced the belief that his son had been killed on the orders of the Russian government "by a little, tiny nuclear bomb, so small that you couldn't see it". He went on to warn that the "people who killed him build big nuclear bombs and missiles and ... should not be trusted".

With tears welling up in his eyes, he said: "He [Alexander] was a very honest and good man, and I loved him very much and now he's not with us.

"This regime is a mortal danger to the world. Sasha [Alexander] fought this regime, he understood and this regime got him. He's not with us any more. And if you just let it go, if we go about our daily lives as usual, this regime will get at all of us."



Nato je prebegnil v Italijo, kjer mu je bilo težko.

marec 2010

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/...

Walter Litvinenko, 71, arrived in Italy in April 2008 with his wife, Lyuba. Their daughter Tatiana – Alexander Litvinenko's half-sister – and her husband and their two children followed eight months later, joining Walter's son Maxim Litvinenko, his wife and young daughter. At this point the Litvinenkos applied for asylum.

At the same time they opened a restaurant in the tourist resort of Rimini. Maxim Litvinenko, who moved to Italy nine years ago, is a professional chef. But soon after opening their business, and securing local permissions, the police informed them they were operating illegally, with one room lacking planning permission.

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The restaurant, La Terrazza, was finally shut down in November. The Litvinenkos were forced to move to a cheaper flat down the coast in nearby Senigallia.

The family say they do not know if the harassment has been authorised at the highest levels. "I thought Europe had 100% rule of law. We discovered in Italy this isn't true. It's connections and the mafia. It's as if we never arrived in Europe but ended up in some Russian province," Tatiana says.

Italian immigration officials have interrogated the family twice. According to Tatiana, they expressed little interest in why the Litvinenkos fled their home in the southern Russian town of Nalchik. Instead, they wanted to know how they had come to Italy and whether their visas had been forged.

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Paolo Guzzanti, a former senator in Berlusconi's Forza Italia party who fell out with the prime minister over his friendship with Putin, said it was likely that Berlusconi had blocked the asylum applications. "I have no confirmation of this, but it seems obvious, given the brotherly relationship between Putin and Berlusconi, that all possible obstacles to granting asylum will be raised in order to slow down the procedure or make it impossible," he said.

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Walter Litvinenko blames Putin for the family's misfortune. "He killed my son. He's a sick man," he says. Tatiana, however, refuses to criticise Putin and focuses on Berezovsky. "My brother defended him. But he's clearly not interested in us." She admits, however, that she has not asked Berezovsky for anything.


Zato se je vrnil v Rusijo in zdaj pač govori, kar od njega pričakuje ruska država.

februar 2012

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldn...

Speaking to Russian state TV in his tiny flat in Italy, Walter Litvinenko, 73, said he deeply regretted accusing the Russian prime minister and FSB security service of involvement in his son's death, saying he hoped to be forgiven and allowed to return to Russia.

"Vladimir Vladimirovich (Putin). If you are watching this programme please forgive me for all the slander that I said and wrote about you, for all the hatred I had for you," he told RT, the Kremlin's English-language satellite TV channel.

"If only I had known that my son had worked for British intelligence I would not have talked about his death. He could easily have been shot as a double agent. Traitors should be shot."





Litvinenkov primer je izi. Zastrupila sta ga Dmitry Kovtun in Andrei Lugovoy. Kovtun je 30. oktobra na občinskem uradu v Hamburgu pustil z polonijem zamazano fotografijo. Litvinenko je bil zastrupljen 1. novembra.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/spi...

Most Russians associate a municipal authority with a long wait. That made it even more surprising to Dmitry Kovtun, 41, when, after arriving on Monday, October 30, at the city hall in Hamburg's Altona neighborhood -- a classic structure with a view of the Elbe -- he only had to spend a few minutes submitting his application for a permanent residency permit. He signed a form, and that was it.

But his signature was not the only thing Kovtun left on the form. He also left a passport photo -- one that investigators have confirmed was contaminated with the deadly radioactive rays of Polonium 210.

The contaminated photo from Altona is now playing a central role in the British investigation into the mysterious death of former KGB agent Alexander Litvinenko. They believe the Kremlin critic was poisoned with Polonium on Nov. 1 in the bar of London's Millennium Hotel. And because Kovtun's application with photo was officially dated, they now know that the Russian from Hamburg already bore traces of radiation two days earlier.


Članek iz Spiegla sem že nalepil, ampak ga enostavno ne registriraš.

https://slo-tech.com/forum/t687918/p586...

Ker trolaš za Rusijo. Zastonj.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

peburuchug ::

Kaj lahko odprem temo izrael pošilja vojsko nad evropo?

about 16,250 of about 37,000 African migrants, most of them from Eritrea and Sudan, would be relocated to Western nations

Mimogrede, isto ljudstvo je v nemčijo po WW2 pošiljala čokoladkote, ker so vedeli da bojo veselo prisilno oplojevali avtohtone prebivalke.

Mr.B ::

Ce povzamemo, vse za demokratizacijo bližnega zahoda ter omejitve irana, no napacnih muslimanov... zgolj asosiacija z zda, je zgolj nakljucna...


Mueller Probe Into U.A.E. Influence Broadens https://www.wsj.com/articles/mueller-pr...
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold

Mr.B ::

Britanci so ze omilili...... verjet se bodo zgovarjali da so izgubili vzorce pri žrtvah, ter da tisto izvor zastrupitve na kljuki spominja na kolodont prank.

The precise source of the nerve agent used to poison a former Russian spy and his daughter has not been verified, according to the head of the Porton Down defence laboratory.

Kokice so pripravljene.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold

gus5 ::

Britanski vojaški preiskovalci pravijo, da ni dokazov, da je bil strup Russia-made. Britanci nimajo pojma, Borut Pahor ve, da je strup narejen v Rusiji. 8-) On ve 'vse' o Skripalu, o TEŠ6 pa nič. :))

Mr.B ::

Tole sem pa 2x prebral pa preveril datum, da ni slučajno pri njih prvi april kak dva dni napačno..

Saudi crown prince: Israelis have right to their own land
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold

ADIJOOO1 ::

gus5 je izjavil:

Britanski vojaški preiskovalci pravijo, da ni dokazov, da je bil strup Russia-made. Britanci nimajo pojma, Borut Pahor ve, da je strup narejen v Rusiji. 8-) On ve 'vse' o Skripalu, o TEŠ6 pa nič. :))



Uffff tale novica bo pa umorila Pac man kajti on je bil 1000000% ,da je Rusija.

nsa_ag3nt ::

peburuchug je izjavil:

Kaj lahko odprem temo izrael pošilja vojsko nad evropo?

about 16,250 of about 37,000 African migrants, most of them from Eritrea and Sudan, would be relocated to Western nations

Mimogrede, isto ljudstvo je v nemčijo po WW2 pošiljala čokoladkote, ker so vedeli da bojo veselo prisilno oplojevali avtohtone prebivalke.

Ker vlada (skrajna) desna stranka in se bližajo volitve, in bi jih polovica morala ostati v Izraelu, so bili tik pred zdajci proti.
https://gizmodo.com/c/goodbye-big-five

Zgodovina sprememb…

Mr.B ::

nsa_ag3nt,
prid k koroškim Slovencem.
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Da ne odtavamo...
Afghan air attack 'kills children' at Kunduz religious school..
No vprašanje je, kaj je to "Afghan air attack", ampak skladno z mentaliteto, da bomo pobili vse teroristi, ter sodelavce.... no sej so otroci tud teroristi
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold

Zgodovina sprememb…

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Pac-Man ::

gus5 je izjavil:

Britanski vojaški preiskovalci pravijo, da ni dokazov, da je bil strup Russia-made. Britanci nimajo pojma, Borut Pahor ve, da je strup narejen v Rusiji. 8-) On ve 'vse' o Skripalu, o TEŠ6 pa nič. :))


To so kemiki.

Imaš še obveščevalce.

ADIJOOO1 je izjavil:

Uffff tale novica bo pa umorila Pac man kajti on je bil 1000000% ,da je Rusija.

Kdo drug je skuhal v Rusiji razvit strup, za katerega izdelavo potrebuješ "izredno razvite metode, česar so zmožne samo države" in z njim zastrupil ruskega izdajalca in njegovo hčerko?

vir:
http://www.rtvslo.si/svet/izvor-novicok...

Ni to Irak, Skripal je bil zares zastrupljen. Z novičokom.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

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Pac-Man ::

Medtem v bananarepubljik. Volitve niso za plebs.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/...

Russian city cancels elections in move to oust maverick mayor

Politicians in one of Russia’s largest cities have cancelled an upcoming election in order to oust a mayor who opposed the re-election of Vladimir Putin.
Yevgeny Roizman, a maverick politician and social activist from the city of Yekaterinburg, has been in office since 2013 and has decried the Kremlin’s influence in local politics and Putin’s election to a fourth term in power.
On Tuesday local politicians voted overwhelmingly to cancel direct elections in Yekaterinburg, the fourth largest city in Russia, in favour of an appointee system by which Roizman is likely to be replaced with a more pliant voice.
Roizman told the Echo of Moscow radio station: “It’s a direct insult to the citizens of Yekaterinburg, a belittling of the status of Yekaterinburg, a show of disrespect to the city, the city’s traditions.”
On Monday thousands of people had protested against the threatened cancellation of direct elections. “We need a mayor, and not a marionette,” read one placard.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Mr.B ::

Pac-Man,
Kdo drug je skuhal v Rusiji razvit strup, za katerega izdelavo potrebuješ "izredno razvite metode, česar so zmožne samo države" in z njim zastrupil ruskega izdajalca in njegovo hčerko?


Iran succeeded in synthesising a number of novichoks - the first to have done so in 2016. Iran did this in full cooperation with the OPCW and immediately reported the results to the OPCW so they could be added to the chemical weapons databas


Bo šlo sedaj Pac man...
Ampak od tebe sem pričakoval, no nekaj takega :
Volokolamsk: A 'mini-Chernobyl' in Moscow's suburbs
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold

Pac-Man ::

Iran ni država?

Roba je bila resna.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Mr.B ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Iran ni država?

Roba je bila resna.

You best. Koliko je laboratorijev, če nek tretjerazredni profesor lahko naredi no celo več variant.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold

Smrekar1 ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Medtem v bananarepubljik. Volitve niso za plebs.


Ne žali bananarepublik. V primerjavi z Rusijo danes so bile to zgledno urejene države.

Smrekar1 ::

gus5 je izjavil:

Britanski vojaški preiskovalci pravijo, da ni dokazov, da je bil strup Russia-made.


Pravijo pa, da ga ni skuhal nekdo doma, temveč da za zastrupitvijo stoji država. Navedli so tudi, da so tak strup do sedaj proizvedli samo v dveh državah, Rusiji in v Iranu.

Krog osumljencev obsega natanko dve (2) državi. Prosim navedi motive Irana da bi zastrupil nekdanjega vohuna v Rusiji. Pri Rusih to namreč ni nek problem. Vso srečo.

Invictus ::

Dajte ne nakladat.

Vsaka, normalno funkcionalno zmožna država bo poskusila narediti orožje svojih tekmic.

Zakaj je že tisti ruski znanstvenik toliko let v ZDA? A mislite, da ga je ZDA sprejela iz človekoljubnih namenov? Jasno, da so ga sprejeli, da bi poustavil novičok v ZDA.
"Life is hard; it's even harder when you're stupid."

http://goo.gl/2YuS2x

Mr.B ::

Smerki samo pravi, da tega strupa Američani niso sposobni proizvesti. TO so sposobne samo tretjerazredne države, ki so na osli zla.

Počakmo še na Kitajsko in Severno korejo. Pa Katar, tako preventivno.
Pač da se posipa s pepelom...
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
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