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NATO in Rusija
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Samuel ::
Trumpetek pravi, da " naj Rusijo vključijo v G7". O gospodarju mora govorit lepo, ane?
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/06/08/poli...
There is no collusion!
Ta narrative je samo posmeha vreden.
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Smrekar1 ::
No, še pet mesecev in bomo videli koliko časa bo Trumpu še vse skupaj furalo.
United States elections, 2018 @ Wikipedia
Če republikanci konkretno wipajo zna biti Trump dolgoročno odlična stvar za ZDA. Upam na najboljše.
United States elections, 2018 @ Wikipedia
Če republikanci konkretno wipajo zna biti Trump dolgoročno odlična stvar za ZDA. Upam na najboljše.
Truga ::
Iz katerega razloga pa bi konkretno wipal? Saj republikanci furajo svoj program kot do zdaj, trump pa ima tudi approval rating ze skor tako visok kot normalen precednik
Smrekar1 ::
Iz katerega razloga pa bi konkretno wipal? Saj republikanci furajo svoj program kot do zdaj, trump pa ima tudi approval rating ze skor tako visok kot normalen precednik
Trumpova volilna baza so kmetavzarji, ki volijo samo za Ljubljenega Vodjo, če njega ni na lističu ostanejo doma. Del inteligentne Republikanske baze zna ostati doma, ker nočejo podpirati debila tipa Trump, medtem ko bo Demokratska baza in dobršen del neodvisnih volivcev prišel volit samo zato, da ustavijo to polomijo od predsednika.
Možnosti so. Alabama ima prav zaradi tega učinka prvega demokratskega senatorja od leta 1992.
Rezultat seveda ni gotov, ampak je povsem možen scenarij.
Truga ::
Demokrati na ekonomski strani se vedno furajo isto neolib sranje kot republikanci in se na vsak nacin otepajo "komunizma", ki bi drzavo potegnil iz dreka, tako da za vecino americanov niso neka jaka izbira.
Vecina tistih, ki jih trumpova bolj temna stran brutalizira pa tak ne morjo na volitve ker so tepeni.
Vecina tistih, ki jih trumpova bolj temna stran brutalizira pa tak ne morjo na volitve ker so tepeni.
Smrekar1 ::
če razoroži severno korejo bo to hvaljenje za naslednjih 10 let
Me ne skrbi, Kim ga bo zaigral kot harmoniko.
Seveda se zna zgoditi, da bodo podpisali sporazum in se bo Severna Koreja zavezala k uničenju orožja in kaj jaz vem kaj še česa. Samo tega se ne bodo držali. Trump se zna še vseeno hvaliti in njegovi postrušniki ga bodo malikovali.
Demokrati na ekonomski strani se vedno furajo isto neolib sranje kot republikanci in se na vsak nacin otepajo "komunizma", ki bi drzavo potegnil iz dreka, tako da za vecino americanov niso neka jaka izbira.
Res je. Saj to je razlog zakaj je Trump sploh imel možnosti, edina alternativa je bila res slaba izbira Hillary Clinton. Proti skoraj kateremukoli drugemu kandidatu - razen morda Sandersu - bi pušnil kot je dolg in širok.
Zgodovina sprememb…
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gruntfürmich ::
naj Zee malo poroča kako potekajo priprave na zgodovinski vrh v tistem delu sveta!
"Namreč, da gre ta družba počasi v norost in da je vse, kar mi gledamo,
visoko organizirana bebavost, do podrobnosti izdelana idiotija."
Psiholog HUBERT POŽARNIK, v Oni, o smiselnosti moderne družbe...
visoko organizirana bebavost, do podrobnosti izdelana idiotija."
Psiholog HUBERT POŽARNIK, v Oni, o smiselnosti moderne družbe...
Kim že uživa v svoji hotelski sobi veliki 300 kvadratov. Vazelin ::
Če Trumpu to rata izpeljat in da gospodarstvo dobro laufa naprej bo to gladek drugi mandat imo. Glavne obljube bodo do 2020 itak že pozabili
Zgodovina sprememb…
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dice7 ::
Kaj, da mu rata izpeljat? Se zadrzati pred jedrsko vojno? Odnosi med obema korejama se izboljsujejo brez njega
Vazelin ::
Kaj, da mu rata izpeljat? Se zadrzati pred jedrsko vojno? Odnosi med obema korejama se izboljsujejo brez njega
če mu uspe "razorožiti" korejo v zameno za odpravo sankcij bo to zmaga. love it or hate it, to je lahko njegova velika zmaga.
In verjemi, da bo to češnja na vrhu torte na mitingih in soočenjih 2020. Morda bo celo nova kapa za 2020 Zgodovina sprememb…
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dice7 ::
Kim pere Trumpa, kot je dolg in sirok, in kakrsna koli razorozitev za odpravo sankcij bo kvecjemu poraz za Trumpa, ker je misicnjak podlegel nekemu debelemu korejcu s sestradano vojsko. Nobena stran nima iniciative verjeti drugi o kakrsnem koli dogovoru, SK je ze daljnega 2005 obljubljala razorozitve, da so prisli do raznih koncesij, Trump pa tudi kaze koliko mu je mar do mednarodnih pogodb (iran, paris, itd..). Oranznega bo v pisarni obdrzala zgolj in le nova vojna; tega se zaveda tudi sam, in tudi ni nakljucje, da je njegovo javno mnenje zacelo se zacelo popravljati ravno sredi najvecje napetosti s SK, medtem, ko je veliki vodja izkoristil priloznost ter iz njega naredil bedaka na mednarodni sceni s sodelovanjem v OI in otoplitvijo odnosov z juzno sosedo
Samuel ::
Kim pere Trumpa, kot je dolg in sirok, in kakrsna koli razorozitev za odpravo sankcij bo kvecjemu poraz za Trumpa, ker je misicnjak podlegel nekemu debelemu korejcu s sestradano vojsko. Nobena stran nima iniciative verjeti drugi o kakrsnem koli dogovoru, SK je ze daljnega 2005 obljubljala razorozitve, da so prisli do raznih koncesij, Trump pa tudi kaze koliko mu je mar do mednarodnih pogodb (iran, paris, itd..). Oranznega bo v pisarni obdrzala zgolj in le nova vojna; tega se zaveda tudi sam, in tudi ni nakljucje, da je njegovo javno mnenje zacelo se zacelo popravljati ravno sredi najvecje napetosti s SK, medtem, ko je veliki vodja izkoristil priloznost ter iz njega naredil bedaka na mednarodni sceni s sodelovanjem v OI in otoplitvijo odnosov z juzno sosedo
Kakšen kup sranja sem pravkar prebral.
Just wow.
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Smrekar1 ::
Še ena zadeva, ki jo lahko pripišemo Rusiji.
https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/zm8...
https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-a-jou...
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20...
Izdatno so financirali in organizirali kampanjo za izstop VB iz EU. Ruski tretji rajh je ekvivalent nemškega, prej ko to sprevidimo boljše bo.
https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/zm8...
https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-a-jou...
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20...
Izdatno so financirali in organizirali kampanjo za izstop VB iz EU. Ruski tretji rajh je ekvivalent nemškega, prej ko to sprevidimo boljše bo.
Mr.B ::
Še ena zadeva, ki jo lahko pripišemo Rusiji.
https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/zm8...
https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-a-jou...
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20...
Izdatno so financirali in organizirali kampanjo za izstop VB iz EU. Ruski tretji rajh je ekvivalent nemškega, prej ko to sprevidimo boljše bo.
Sej vemo. Ko enoumje bombandira preko #idovko nadzorovanih medijev, je pa demokracija. Prdvčerajšnjim je bil na Pro 7 satira na drugo ustajenje hitlerja. Priporočam da si ga ogledaš.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Zgodovina sprememb…
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nuphilucle ::
Še ena zadeva, ki jo lahko pripišemo Rusiji.
https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/zm8...
https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-a-jou...
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20...
Izdatno so financirali in organizirali kampanjo za izstop VB iz EU. Ruski tretji rajh je ekvivalent nemškega, prej ko to sprevidimo boljše bo.
Sej vemo. Ko enoumje bombandira preko #idovko nadzorovanih medijev, je pa demokracija. Prdvčerajšnjim je bil na Pro 7 satira na drugo ustajenje hitlerja. Priporočam da si ga ogledaš.
Prepričal si me. Glede na to da so ti rusi tako superiorni in vodijo vse iz ozadja sem sedaj na njihovi strani.
If you can't beat them, join them.
Mr.B ::
nuphilucle je izjavil:
Še ena zadeva, ki jo lahko pripišemo Rusiji.
https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/zm8...
https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-a-jou...
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20...
Izdatno so financirali in organizirali kampanjo za izstop VB iz EU. Ruski tretji rajh je ekvivalent nemškega, prej ko to sprevidimo boljše bo.
Sej vemo. Ko enoumje bombandira preko #idovko nadzorovanih medijev, je pa demokracija. Prdvčerajšnjim je bil na Pro 7 satira na drugo ustajenje hitlerja. Priporočam da si ga ogledaš.
Prepričal si me. Glede na to da so ti rusi tako superiorni in vodijo vse iz ozadja sem sedaj na njihovi strani.
If you can't beat them, join them.
Glej amerji so se morali za ene par budgetov Rusije zadolžiti, tko so ti rusi nesposobni.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Pac-Man ::
Top kek. Direktno od ruske komunistke.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/0...
A member of parliament has said Russian women should not have “intimate relations” with foreigners during the World Cup and warned against biracial babies.
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She said women who had babies with foreigners around the time of the 1980 Olympics in Moscow often “suffered” as single mothers.
“It's good if it's one race, but if it's another race, then they really did. We should have our own babies,” Ms Pletnyova said.
Biracial Russians were in the past often referred to as “children of the Olympics” or “festival children” after the huge international festivals the Soviet Union hosted with African, Middle Eastern and South American participants.
Tamara Pletnyova @ Wikipedia
Tamara Vasilyevna Pletnyova (...) a member of the Communist Party faction, member of the Permanent Commission of the CIS Interparliamentary Assembly on social policy and human Rights
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/0...
A member of parliament has said Russian women should not have “intimate relations” with foreigners during the World Cup and warned against biracial babies.
...
She said women who had babies with foreigners around the time of the 1980 Olympics in Moscow often “suffered” as single mothers.
“It's good if it's one race, but if it's another race, then they really did. We should have our own babies,” Ms Pletnyova said.
Biracial Russians were in the past often referred to as “children of the Olympics” or “festival children” after the huge international festivals the Soviet Union hosted with African, Middle Eastern and South American participants.
Tamara Pletnyova @ Wikipedia
Tamara Vasilyevna Pletnyova (...) a member of the Communist Party faction, member of the Permanent Commission of the CIS Interparliamentary Assembly on social policy and human Rights
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
Nova guba ali tri.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fbi-obt...
In a court filing Friday afternoon, authorities revealed that the FBI has recently accessed a trove of encrypted data stored on Cohen’s phones.
“The Government was advised that the FBI’s original electronic extraction of data from telephones did not capture content related to encrypted messaging applications, such as WhatsApp and Signal,” the government’s filing reads. “The FBI has now obtained this material. There are approximately 731 pages of messages, including call logs, which were also produced today.”
The court filing offers no information about the content of the messages or how authorities managed to obtain them. Prosecutors also divulged in a letter to the court that they had completed the reconstruction of 16 pages of documents recovered during the raids from a shredding machine.
“The government’s disclosure of the reconstruction of shredded documents and 731 pages of encrypted messages will add to the pressure on Cohen and the worries of the many who have communicated with him,” said Kendall Coffey, a former U.S. Attorney in Miami.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fbi-obt...
In a court filing Friday afternoon, authorities revealed that the FBI has recently accessed a trove of encrypted data stored on Cohen’s phones.
“The Government was advised that the FBI’s original electronic extraction of data from telephones did not capture content related to encrypted messaging applications, such as WhatsApp and Signal,” the government’s filing reads. “The FBI has now obtained this material. There are approximately 731 pages of messages, including call logs, which were also produced today.”
The court filing offers no information about the content of the messages or how authorities managed to obtain them. Prosecutors also divulged in a letter to the court that they had completed the reconstruction of 16 pages of documents recovered during the raids from a shredding machine.
“The government’s disclosure of the reconstruction of shredded documents and 731 pages of encrypted messages will add to the pressure on Cohen and the worries of the many who have communicated with him,” said Kendall Coffey, a former U.S. Attorney in Miami.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Mr.B ::
Nova guba ali tri.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fbi-obt...
In a court filing Friday afternoon, authorities revealed that the FBI has recently accessed a trove of encrypted data stored on Cohen’s phones.
“The Government was advised that the FBI’s original electronic extraction of data from telephones did not capture content related to encrypted messaging applications, such as WhatsApp and Signal,” the government’s filing reads. “The FBI has now obtained this material. There are approximately 731 pages of messages, including call logs, which were also produced today.”
The court filing offers no information about the content of the messages or how authorities managed to obtain them. Prosecutors also divulged in a letter to the court that they had completed the reconstruction of 16 pages of documents recovered during the raids from a shredding machine.
“The government’s disclosure of the reconstruction of shredded documents and 731 pages of encrypted messages will add to the pressure on Cohen and the worries of the many who have communicated with him,” said Kendall Coffey, a former U.S. Attorney in Miami.
Verjetno obnašanja FBI pri Trump ok Clintonovem mail serverju nisi ravno hotel prilepiti. Bi bilo malo ne verodostojno...
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Pac-Man ::
To misliš novico, da je pravosodno ministrstvo kritiziralo Comeya, ker je par dni pred volitvami odprl preiskavo v maile? Torej šel Trumpu na roko.
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2...
Comey comes in for the harshest criticism. He was "insubordinate." In an effort to protect the FBI's reputation, he put his personal views above longstanding department policy. He was wrong and grievously damaged the FBI’s reputation.
His July 5, 2016 news conference during which he announced that Clinton would not be prosecuted, but excoriated her actions anyway, was purposely kept secret from Lynch, who was his boss. It departed “clearly and dramatically” from FBI and Justice norms: The FBI does not announce prosecution decisions; the Justice Department does. And officials do not criticize people they’ve decided not to charge.
The same was true for Comey’s decision in October, days before the presidential election, to inform Congress that he was reopening the Clinton investigation, based on newly discovered emails — only to close the investigation days later having found nothing.
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As for the former attorney general, Lynch failed to rein in Comey when she twice had the chance. She also used horrendous judgment when she met privately with former President Bill Clinton in June, 2016, a lapse that called into question the Justice Department's impartiality as the email investigation was wrapping up.
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2...
Comey comes in for the harshest criticism. He was "insubordinate." In an effort to protect the FBI's reputation, he put his personal views above longstanding department policy. He was wrong and grievously damaged the FBI’s reputation.
His July 5, 2016 news conference during which he announced that Clinton would not be prosecuted, but excoriated her actions anyway, was purposely kept secret from Lynch, who was his boss. It departed “clearly and dramatically” from FBI and Justice norms: The FBI does not announce prosecution decisions; the Justice Department does. And officials do not criticize people they’ve decided not to charge.
The same was true for Comey’s decision in October, days before the presidential election, to inform Congress that he was reopening the Clinton investigation, based on newly discovered emails — only to close the investigation days later having found nothing.
...
As for the former attorney general, Lynch failed to rein in Comey when she twice had the chance. She also used horrendous judgment when she met privately with former President Bill Clinton in June, 2016, a lapse that called into question the Justice Department's impartiality as the email investigation was wrapping up.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
Ne ravno evropska definicija človekovih pravic.
https://twitter.com/jules_su/status/100...
Heads up! You can send prison inmates completely unsolicited mail!
Paul Manafort
Inmate Number 00045343
Northern Neck Regional Jail
PO Box 1060
Warsaw, VA 22572
https://twitter.com/jules_su/status/100...
Heads up! You can send prison inmates completely unsolicited mail!
Paul Manafort
Inmate Number 00045343
Northern Neck Regional Jail
PO Box 1060
Warsaw, VA 22572
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
zmaugy ::
Naša zaveznica Turčija s predsednikom Erdotom bo dobila F35:
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/06/19/poli...
Ooooh, kako srčkano...
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/06/19/poli...
Ooooh, kako srčkano...
Smrekar1 ::
Naša zaveznica Turčija s predsednikom Erdotom bo dobila F35:
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/06/19/poli...
Ooooh, kako srčkano...
Erdogan zdaj verjetno razmišlja kako bo upravičil svojo sovražnost do civiliziranega sveta. V nedeljo imajo namreč volitve, v prvem krogu bo težko dobil, v drugem krogu zna celo izgubiti. Če jih zadržijo za nekaj mesecev bo zanesljivo pušnil.
zmaugy ::
Nisem spremljal dogajanja v Turčiji, ker sem imel vtis, da se je začela era Erdo vladavine z 99% zmagami na volitvah za naslednjih xx let, po sistemu:
"Kdor je z mano, naj dvigne roko, kdor je proti meni, naj dvigne obe roki in stopi pred zid."
"Kdor je z mano, naj dvigne roko, kdor je proti meni, naj dvigne obe roki in stopi pred zid."
Zgodovina sprememb…
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Mr.B ::
Kolikor vem, pavijo da ima za kokurentko Žensko. Potem se je potrebno zamisliti, kaj vse se je govorilo o turciji na tem forumu.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Smrekar1 ::
Nisem spremljal dogajanja v Turčiji, ker sem imel vtis, da se je začela era Erdo vladavine z 99% zmagami na volitvah za naslednjih xx let.
Tip vlada po principu 50% plus en glas = absolutna moč. Turčija se zaenkrat še spominja časov, ko se je oblast dalo zamenjati, že celo leto jim močno šepa gospodarstvo, turška lira je v podnu in inflacija je neprijetno visoka. Erdotov odgovor je bil predčasne volitve, saj bi čez 1 leto in pol zanesljivo izgubil. Zdaj mu kaže kot da zna zmagati, ampak je zadeva v okviru statistične napake anket.
Morebitno potvarjanje rezultatov tu še ni všteto.
Fritz ::
Erdotu se mudi, ker s temi volitvami stopi v veljavo sprememba ustave in predsedniški sistem (predsedniku se drastično povečajo pooblastila) in bi bilo zanj sila neprijetno, če bi to 'nagrado' snedel nekdo drug.
In other news...RTVSlo poroča o umiku ZDA iz Sveta OZN za človekove pravice:
"Ta odločitev je v nasprotju z ameriškimi interesi nacionalne varnosti in zunanje politike in bo otežila napredovanje prioritet človekovih pravic ter pomoč žrtvam po svetu," je v skupni izjavi sporočilo 12 organizacij za človekove pravice, med njimi Save the Children, Freedom House in United Nations Association-USA. "Vse, kar Trumpa zanima, je obramba Izraela," je dejal izvršni direktor organizacije Human Rights Watch Kenneth Roth.
In other news...RTVSlo poroča o umiku ZDA iz Sveta OZN za človekove pravice:
"Ta odločitev je v nasprotju z ameriškimi interesi nacionalne varnosti in zunanje politike in bo otežila napredovanje prioritet človekovih pravic ter pomoč žrtvam po svetu," je v skupni izjavi sporočilo 12 organizacij za človekove pravice, med njimi Save the Children, Freedom House in United Nations Association-USA. "Vse, kar Trumpa zanima, je obramba Izraela," je dejal izvršni direktor organizacije Human Rights Watch Kenneth Roth.
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
Zgodovina sprememb…
- spremenilo: Fritz ()
Smrekar1 ::
"Vse, kar Trumpa zanima, je obramba Izraela," je dejal izvršni direktor organizacije Human Rights Watch Kenneth Roth.
Nedvomno, ampak to je še vseeno precej neprimeren komentar direktorja organizacije, ki se osredotoča na Izrael in malone ignorira številne druge, hujše kršitve človekovih pravic po svetu.
Mr.B ::
"Vse, kar Trumpa zanima, je obramba Izraela," je dejal izvršni direktor organizacije Human Rights Watch Kenneth Roth.
Nedvomno, ampak to je še vseeno precej neprimeren komentar direktorja organizacije, ki se osredotoča na Izrael in malone ignorira številne druge, hujše kršitve človekovih pravic po svetu.
Fašiti držijo skupaj.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Truga ::
"Vse, kar Trumpa zanima, je obramba Izraela," je dejal izvršni direktor organizacije Human Rights Watch Kenneth Roth.
Nedvomno, ampak to je še vseeno precej neprimeren komentar direktorja organizacije, ki se osredotoča na Izrael in malone ignorira številne druge, hujše kršitve človekovih pravic po svetu.
naprimer?
Truga ::
http://ap.ohchr.org/documents/dpage_e.a...
http://ap.ohchr.org/documents/dpage_e.a...
Zgleda ne ignorirajo?
http://ap.ohchr.org/documents/dpage_e.a...
Zgleda ne ignorirajo?
Mr.B ::
Trumpi se bo moral naučiti, da v mednrodni politiki, pač to ne funkcionira..
Samo bolj ne verodostojen postajas.
jokajoci
Samo bolj ne verodostojen postajas.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Vazelin ::
Erdotu se mudi, ker s temi volitvami stopi v veljavo sprememba ustave in predsedniški sistem (predsedniku se drastično povečajo pooblastila) in bi bilo zanj sila neprijetno, če bi to 'nagrado' snedel nekdo drug.
To bi bil res epic fail, da nagrado odnese nekdo drug
Ste brali da je trump merklovi dal na mizo dva bonbona in ji reku lej da ne boš rekla da nisem nič dal
nsa_ag3nt ::
"Vse, kar Trumpa zanima, je obramba Izraela," je dejal izvršni direktor organizacije Human Rights Watch Kenneth Roth.
Nedvomno, ampak to je še vseeno precej neprimeren komentar direktorja organizacije, ki se osredotoča na Izrael in malone ignorira številne druge, hujše kršitve človekovih pravic po svetu.
Fašiti držijo skupaj.
ZDA, KSA in Izrael ; sanjska alianca.
Naša zaveznica Turčija s predsednikom Erdotom bo dobila F35:
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/06/19/poli...
Ooooh, kako srčkano...
Če hočeš, da država bankrotira, ji prodaj f35 :P.
Win-win situacija za prodajalca.
https://gizmodo.com/c/goodbye-big-five
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zmaugy ::
Nisem spremljal dogajanja v Turčiji, ker sem imel vtis, da se je začela era Erdo vladavine z 99% zmagami na volitvah za naslednjih xx let.
Tip vlada po principu 50% plus en glas = absolutna moč. Turčija se zaenkrat še spominja časov, ko se je oblast dalo zamenjati, že celo leto jim močno šepa gospodarstvo, turška lira je v podnu in inflacija je neprijetno visoka. Erdotov odgovor je bil predčasne volitve, saj bi čez 1 leto in pol zanesljivo izgubil. Zdaj mu kaže kot da zna zmagati, ampak je zadeva v okviru statistične napake anket.
Morebitno potvarjanje rezultatov tu še ni všteto.
Hmm, tole se ni najboljše izšlo. Dobili smo torej norca, ki bo na oblasti dolgo in mu bojo ZDA prodale najnovejše ofenzivno orožje.
Mislim da se tudi nadaljevanje ne bo dobro izšlo...
https://siol.net/novice/svet/erdogan-tu...
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Smrekar1 ::
Hmm, tole se ni najboljše izšlo. Dobili smo torej norca, ki bo na oblasti dolgo in mu bojo ZDA prodale najnovejše ofenzivno orožje.
Mislim da se tudi nadaljevanje ne bo dobro izšlo...
https://siol.net/novice/svet/erdogan-tu...
Turčija sledi vzorcu Venezuele, po besedah Carterja (ki je svoje poslanstvo izdal) so imeli "najboljši volilni sistem na svetu". Zloraba javnih medijev in sistema za obveščanje v sili za potrebe volilne propagande sta mu verjetno ušli. Podobno je tukaj.
F-35 zna Erdogan dobiti zato, da je Turčija naslednjih 30 let vojaško odvisna od ZDA. To ni nujno slabo, saj se bo težje obrnil proti Rusiji. Poleg tega obstaja dokaj dobra možnost, da se stvari tam normalizirajo. Sicer se strinjam, da verjetno prodaja F-35 Turčiji najbrž ni najboljša stvar vseh časov, ampak kljub temu ima določene prednosti za civilizirani del sveta.
Mr.B ::
Hmm, tole se ni najboljše izšlo. Dobili smo torej norca, ki bo na oblasti dolgo in mu bojo ZDA prodale najnovejše ofenzivno orožje.
Mislim da se tudi nadaljevanje ne bo dobro izšlo...
https://siol.net/novice/svet/erdogan-tu...
Turčija sledi vzorcu Venezuele, po besedah Carterja (ki je svoje poslanstvo izdal) so imeli "najboljši volilni sistem na svetu". Zloraba javnih medijev in sistema za obveščanje v sili za potrebe volilne propagande sta mu verjetno ušli. Podobno je tukaj.
F-35 zna Erdogan dobiti zato, da je Turčija naslednjih 30 let vojaško odvisna od ZDA. To ni nujno slabo, saj se bo težje obrnil proti Rusiji. Poleg tega obstaja dokaj dobra možnost, da se stvari tam normalizirajo. Sicer se strinjam, da verjetno prodaja F-35 Turčiji najbrž ni najboljša stvar vseh časov, ampak kljub temu ima določene prednosti za civilizirani del sveta.
Trenutrno turčija nima na svojem ozemlju letečih F35. In jih še dolgo ne bo imela. Trenutno s ot mokre sanje Rusov.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Smrekar1 ::
Trenutrno turčija nima na svojem ozemlju letečih F35. In jih še dolgo ne bo imela.
Oboje drži, ampak se zna v relativno kratkem času spremeniti.
Trenutno s ot mokre sanje Rusov.
Stvar debate, njihova propagandna trobila nasprotujejo prodaji.
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fikus_ ::
Če bodo Turki dobili F35, jih bodo Rusi imeli blizu za preučevanje in testiranje svojih tehnologij zaznavanja.
Prodaja F35 Turčiji je lahko dvorezen meč, po eni strani vežeš državo nase, kot piše Smrekar (servisiranje, rezervni deli, nadgradnje, podpora, . . . ), po drugi strani je pa to blizu Rusije, ki bodo sigurno poskušali pridobiti čimveč podatkov. Je samo vprašanje, kako bodo Turki dosledni pri uporabi letal v smislu razkrivanja podrobnosti.
Prodaja F35 Turčiji je lahko dvorezen meč, po eni strani vežeš državo nase, kot piše Smrekar (servisiranje, rezervni deli, nadgradnje, podpora, . . . ), po drugi strani je pa to blizu Rusije, ki bodo sigurno poskušali pridobiti čimveč podatkov. Je samo vprašanje, kako bodo Turki dosledni pri uporabi letal v smislu razkrivanja podrobnosti.
Smrekar1 ::
Če bodo Turki dobili F35, jih bodo Rusi imeli blizu za preučevanje in testiranje svojih tehnologij zaznavanja.
Prodaja F35 Turčiji je lahko dvorezen meč, po eni strani vežeš državo nase, kot piše Smrekar (servisiranje, rezervni deli, nadgradnje, podpora, . . . ), po drugi strani je pa to blizu Rusije, ki bodo sigurno poskušali pridobiti čimveč podatkov. Je samo vprašanje, kako bodo Turki dosledni pri uporabi letal v smislu razkrivanja podrobnosti.
Jup.
Seveda je potrebno upoštevati še nekaj, od naročila do dobave F-35 Turčiji lahko mine še kar nekaj let, v tem času se lokalna politika lahko spremeni.
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zmaugy ::
Morda stvar ni zaskrbljujoča z vidika ZDA, ampak mi nismo ZDA. Vsekakor je stvar zaskrbljujoča z vidika EU.
Samuel ::
Če bodo Turki dobili F35, jih bodo Rusi imeli blizu za preučevanje in testiranje svojih tehnologij zaznavanja.
The USAF's F-35s in Estonia...
http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/96...
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Mr.B ::
Ok, ni morda prava tema, ampak primer mentalnega stanja NATO clanice. Ok lahko se izgovarjate na uradnike....
A former head of the North Atlantic Treaty Alliance (NATO) was denied electronic authorisation to enter the United States after his online application was rejected due to what he said was a trip to Iran.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
zmaugy ::
Ok, ni morda prava tema, ampak primer mentalnega stanja NATO clanice. Ok lahko se izgovarjate na uradnike....
A former head of the North Atlantic Treaty Alliance (NATO) was denied electronic authorisation to enter the United States after his online application was rejected due to what he said was a trip to Iran.
Skrajni idiotizem bi bila ena možnost. Po drugi strani pa mislim da je to namerno in da ZDA že nekaj časa gledajo na EU kot na globalnega tekmeca in potencialnega sovražnika in skladno s tem delujejo. Dolgoročno z ustvarjanjem nestabilnosti na BV zadnjih cca 30 let, na srednji in kratek rok pa s kreiranjem gospodaskih kriz in destabilizacijskih pritiskov kakor na primer z navalom milijonov migrantov proti EU v kratkem času, zadnjo finančno krizo in svežo carinsko vojno.
To, da Solana ne sme v ZDA brez nekega brezveznega uradniškega podjebavanja, je kazanje mišic eliti EU.
NATO je mrtva črka na papirju, trenutno je to zgolj orodje okupacije EU s strani ZDA in palica v kolesu prave evropske obrambne organizacije.
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