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Mr.B ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

c3p0 je izjavil:

Sem bral, da si je Skripalova s tistim prestrezenim pogovorom kupila življenje, drugače bi verjetno oba z očetom ostala "v komi" oz. "izgubila bitko za življenje". Paco style news, ampak nikoli ne veš :).


29. marec

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-43588450

Yulia Skripal, the daughter of ex-spy Sergei Skripal, is improving rapidly and no longer in a critical condition, says the hospital treating her.

...

The BBC understands from separate sources that Ms Skripal is conscious and talking.




5. april

http://metro.co.uk/2018/04/05/russian-t...

A phone conversation ‘between Yulia Skripal and her cousin’ has been aired on Russian TV.

It allegedly is audio of her telling Viktoria Skripal that she and her father are both recovering and that she expects to leave hospital soon.





Pač si idiot z lepo zbirko mostov.

Ja jebesga, ko britanci kopirajo strup ki na koncu zadene kot dober odmerek lsd-ja s travo ter vodko. No morda sta pa poceni vodko pila, pri nas je isti efekt s smarnico..
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold

c3p0 ::

Še boljša teorija pa je tista, da sta jedla slabo pripravljeno ribo fugu v bližnji piceriji :)) Paco, twitter?

Zheegec ::

USS Winston Churchill Enters Mediterranean Area, Pentagon Says
"božja zapoved pravi; <Spoštuj očeta in mater>,
ne govori pa o spoštovanju sodstva."
Janez Janša, 29.04.2014

Pac-Man ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:



Updejt:

https://twitter.com/mj_lee/status/98451...

https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/statu...

https://twitter.com/cegnal/status/98461...


(beri tudi komentarje, vsaj @TheRickWilson. The hive ve ali "ve".)
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

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Mr.B ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Pac-Man je izjavil:



Updejt:

https://twitter.com/mj_lee/status/98451...

https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/statu...

https://twitter.com/cegnal/status/98461...


(beri tudi komentarje, vsaj @TheRickWilson. The hive ve ali "ve".)

Trumpi tud veliko naklada po twixu, pa ga potem mal mirijo da naj mal pazi, da ga kdo prevec resno ne vzame.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold

Cervantes ::

Mater kolk enih retardov tukaj komi čaka, da skurimo ta bedni planet.
Ampak, najbrž je res cajt.

c3p0 ::

Planetu nič ne manjka, psa tudi ne boš šel ubijat zaradi par klopov. No, planet ima žal precej več klopov.

Zheegec ::

"božja zapoved pravi; <Spoštuj očeta in mater>,
ne govori pa o spoštovanju sodstva."
Janez Janša, 29.04.2014

Mr.B ::

Bo Sami, smreki in PAx man povedal, kako berejo free speach, ter kako na SK lažejo.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold

Cervantes ::

Zheegec je izjavil:

Je tole malo krejzi, ali se mi samo zdi?

Jasn de je crazy.
Kako si upa!
Je pa v penziji in se lahko poseryey na partijske smernice.
Mu pa lahko kljuko namažejo s kakšno zanimivo substanco?

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Pac-Man ::

Oh, snap.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politic...

The Justice Department special counsel has evidence that Donald Trump’s personal lawyer and confidant, Michael Cohen, secretly made a late-summer trip to Prague during the 2016 presidential campaign, according to two sources familiar with the matter.

Confirmation of the trip would lend credence to a retired British spy’s report that Cohen strategized there with a powerful Kremlin figure about Russian meddling in the U.S. election.

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Cohen has vehemently denied for months that he ever has been in Prague or colluded with Russia during the campaign. Neither he nor his lawyer responded to requests for comment for this story.

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But investigators have traced evidence that Cohen entered the Czech Republic through Germany, apparently during August or early September of 2016 as the ex-spy reported, said the sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation is confidential.

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The dossier alleges that Cohen, two Russians and several Eastern European hackers met at the Prague office of a Russian government-backed social and cultural organization, Rossotrudnichestvo. The location was selected to provide an alternative explanation in case the rendezvous was exposed, according to Steele’s Kremlin sources, cultivated during 20 years of spying on Russia. It said that Oleg Solodukhin, the deputy chief of Rossotrudnichestvo’s operation in the Czech Republic, attended the meeting, too.

Further, it alleges that Cohen, Kosachev and other attendees discussed “how deniable cash payments were to be made to hackers in Europe who had worked under Kremlin direction against the Clinton campaign.”
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Mr.B ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Oh, snap.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politic...

The Justice Department special counsel has evidence that Donald Trump’s personal lawyer and confidant, Michael Cohen, secretly made a late-summer trip to Prague during the 2016 presidential campaign, according to two sources familiar with the matter.

Confirmation of the trip would lend credence to a retired British spy’s report that Cohen strategized there with a powerful Kremlin figure about Russian meddling in the U.S. election.

...

Cohen has vehemently denied for months that he ever has been in Prague or colluded with Russia during the campaign. Neither he nor his lawyer responded to requests for comment for this story.

...

But investigators have traced evidence that Cohen entered the Czech Republic through Germany, apparently during August or early September of 2016 as the ex-spy reported, said the sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation is confidential.

...

The dossier alleges that Cohen, two Russians and several Eastern European hackers met at the Prague office of a Russian government-backed social and cultural organization, Rossotrudnichestvo. The location was selected to provide an alternative explanation in case the rendezvous was exposed, according to Steele’s Kremlin sources, cultivated during 20 years of spying on Russia. It said that Oleg Solodukhin, the deputy chief of Rossotrudnichestvo’s operation in the Czech Republic, attended the meeting, too.

Further, it alleges that Cohen, Kosachev and other attendees discussed “how deniable cash payments were to be made to hackers in Europe who had worked under Kremlin direction against the Clinton campaign.”

Madonca, kaj šele če bi šel na počitnice na Kitajsko.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold

Fritz ::

Hehe...nacionalni interesi pa to...

Trump pomilostil izdajalca, ki se je po nalogu Cheneya spravil nad uslužbenko CIA zato, ker je njen mož diplomat napisal, da bela hiša potvarja dokaze, da bi opravičila vojno proti Iraku:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/13/us/p...
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein

Zheegec ::

Said said the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons had visited the site in Barzeh in recent years and had declared it free of any toxic weapons.

"The OPCW used to stay in the two upper rooms, and use the labs, and we would cooperate with them completely," he said.

"The OPCW has proven in two reports that this building and the centre as a whole are empty and do not produce any chemical weapons."


At destroyed Syria lab, workers say they produce antidotes to snake venom not toxic weapons
"božja zapoved pravi; <Spoštuj očeta in mater>,
ne govori pa o spoštovanju sodstva."
Janez Janša, 29.04.2014

Pac-Man ::

Kamorkoli vržeš kamen, zadaneš Rusa. Zdajle nas pretty much trolajo.

Več na povezavi.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/ca...

I need your help identifying someone in this photo.


...

This was yesterday during the court hearing on the Michael Cohen raids. The judge was actually frustrated that Cohen was not there in person. He was here smoking cigars with friends outside the hotel where he currently lives.

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It’s been suggested to me that this is Rotem Rosen. We’ll get to who that is in a moment.

Here are other photos of Rosen from the wire.


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So who is Rostem? These two paragraphs from a piece last year in Politico give you a flavor


Its patriarch, the late billionaire Tamir Sapir, was born in the Soviet state of Georgia and arrived in 1976 in New York, where he opened an electronics store in the Flatiron district that, according to the New York Times, catered largely to KGB agents.

Trump has called Sapir “a great friend.” In December 2007, he hosted the wedding of Sapir’s daughter, Zina, at Mar-a-Lago. The event featured performances by Lionel Ritchie and the Pussycat Dolls. The groom, Rotem Rosen, was the CEO of the American branch of Africa Israel, the Putin oligarch Leviev’s holding company.


Here is Rosen with Donald Trump and Aras Agalarov at the Miss Universe Pageant in Moscow in 2013. The man on the far right is Sapir’s son.


Late Update: TPM Reader MF may have settled this. In the photo from yesterday and the confirmed photo of Rotem from October, he appears to be wearing the same bracelet in addition to being the same person.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Pac-Man ::

Ruski novinarji so precej nerodni. Vsako desetletje se kakšen defenestrira.

https://twitter.com/RSF_EECA/status/985...

#Russia|n journalist Maxim Borodin died today in Ekaterinburg after "falling" out from 5th floor in suspicious circumstances.
https://newdaynews.ru/ekb/633323.html

He covered several sensitive issues in recent months.

We call for a thorough, impartial investigation into professional motive.


https://twitter.com/leonidragozin/statu...

Yekaterinburg journalist Maxim Borodin died after falling out of the window of his flat. He was among those who broke the story about Wagner contractors from Asbest who died in Syria. He was previously attacked in connection with protests against Matilda, the controversial film.

Ivan Safronov @ Wikipedia

Ivan Ivanovich Safronov (Russian: Иван Иванович Сафронов) (16 January 1956 – 2 March 2007) was a Russian journalist and columnist who covered military affairs for the daily newspaper Kommersant. He died after falling from the fifth floor of his Moscow apartment building. His apartment was on the third floor.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

nsa_ag3nt ::

Pac-Man
Kamorkoli vržeš kamen, zadaneš Rusa. Zdajle nas pretty much trolajo.

Kjerkoli na slo netu zagledaš obsežen copy/paste člank iz twiterja, potem je to znak, da je bil pakman na delu.
https://gizmodo.com/c/goodbye-big-five

Pac-Man ::

Pojasnilo BZ-ja v skripalovih vzorcih.

http://www.cbw-events.org.uk/faqs-skrip...

Why was another agent, BZ, identified in some samples?

On 14 April, Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov was reported in press reports in TASS and RT as suggesting that the OPCW designated laboratory in Switzerland (the Spiez Laboratory) identified BZ (a chemical weapons agent that is not in the Novichok family) in samples provided by the OPCW.

When a sample, such as one from Salisbury, is sent to an OPCW designated lab, it isn't sent on its own. There are "negative control samples" (made of a material similar to that in the authentic sample that has no detectable chemical weapons agent in it) and "positive control samples" (made of a material similar to that in the authentic sample that has been spiked to contain a chemical weapons agent or other relevant chemical in it).

For an active investigation of alleged use the samples are numbered and not otherwise identified so that each laboratory cannot tell them apart. In simple terms, the negative control samples protect against incorrect results from contaminated lab equipment; the positive control samples raise confidence in the lab work to identify a specific agent.

The spike has to be of a high quality and purity, and to a known standard. As there are no standards written for the Novichoks, another material would have to be used for the spike. A good candidate for this would be BZ. [Editorial note: when I suggested to someone familiar with the classified report that the spike might be BZ in this case I was not told I was wrong -- RG].

Thus, in an ideal world, each laboratory would report nothing detected in the negative control samples, report the spike chemical in the positive control samples and report the Novichok in the actual samples from Salisbury -- an overall detection of BZ and of the Novichok. Therefore, such a report from the laboratory does not constitute any suggestion that the Skripals were exposed to BZ.


Lavrov pač bluzi po službeni dolžnosti.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

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Mr.B ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Pojasnilo BZ-ja v skripalovih vzorcih.

http://www.cbw-events.org.uk/faqs-skrip...

Why was another agent, BZ, identified in some samples?

On 14 April, Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov was reported in press reports in TASS and RT as suggesting that the OPCW designated laboratory in Switzerland (the Spiez Laboratory) identified BZ (a chemical weapons agent that is not in the Novichok family) in samples provided by the OPCW.

When a sample, such as one from Salisbury, is sent to an OPCW designated lab, it isn't sent on its own. There are "negative control samples" (made of a material similar to that in the authentic sample that has no detectable chemical weapons agent in it) and "positive control samples" (made of a material similar to that in the authentic sample that has been spiked to contain a chemical weapons agent or other relevant chemical in it).

For an active investigation of alleged use the samples are numbered and not otherwise identified so that each laboratory cannot tell them apart. In simple terms, the negative control samples protect against incorrect results from contaminated lab equipment; the positive control samples raise confidence in the lab work to identify a specific agent.

The spike has to be of a high quality and purity, and to a known standard. As there are no standards written for the Novichoks, another material would have to be used for the spike. A good candidate for this would be BZ. [Editorial note: when I suggested to someone familiar with the classified report that the spike might be BZ in this case I was not told I was wrong -- RG].

Thus, in an ideal world, each laboratory would report nothing detected in the negative control samples, report the spike chemical in the positive control samples and report the Novichok in the actual samples from Salisbury -- an overall detection of BZ and of the Novichok. Therefore, such a report from the laboratory does not constitute any suggestion that the Skripals were exposed to BZ.


Lavrov pač bluzi po službeni dolžnosti.

Torej ker ni bilo ruskega, je sedaj nekaj no nehaj BS. Objavijo naj report, ups ga ne bodo, ker notri ni ruskega ups. ni ruskega.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold

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Pac-Man ::

Mr.B je izjavil:

Torej ker ni bilo ruskega, je sedaj nekaj no nehaj BS. Objavijo naj report, ups ga ne bodo, ker notri ni ruskega ups. ni ruskega.

Iz poročila OPCW v Siriji s 1. maja 2017.

https://www.opcw.org/fileadmin/OPCW/Fac...

The OPCW Laboratory prepared two control samples for the biomedical samples – one positive (human plasma spiked with sulfur mustard, designated as P030) and one negative (human plasma, designated as P029). All of the samples were shipped to the selected Designated Laboratories on Wednesday 18 January 2017. The Designated Laboratory analytical reports were received on 2 and 7 February 2017.

Standarden postopek.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Vazelin ::

https://novice.svet24.si/clanek/novice/...

Spet nesreča raziskovalnega novinarja v rusiji. Spet čisto naključje:)) fak kakšrn shithole je ta država če ne plešeš po putinovih orglicah. Nesreča ha

No ja saj še troo rusofili ne marajo emigrirat v rusijo...

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Mr.B ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Mr.B je izjavil:

Torej ker ni bilo ruskega, je sedaj nekaj no nehaj BS. Objavijo naj report, ups ga ne bodo, ker notri ni ruskega ups. ni ruskega.

Iz poročila OPCW v Siriji s 1. maja 2017.

https://www.opcw.org/fileadmin/OPCW/Fac...

The OPCW Laboratory prepared two control samples for the biomedical samples – one positive (human plasma spiked with sulfur mustard, designated as P030) and one negative (human plasma, designated as P029). All of the samples were shipped to the selected Designated Laboratories on Wednesday 18 January 2017. The Designated Laboratory analytical reports were received on 2 and 7 February 2017.

Standarden postopek.

Kolikor vem je bil April in leto 2018.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold

Pac-Man ::

Žagajo vejo, na kateri sedijo.

https://twitter.com/meduza_en/status/98...

Several Russian e-wallet services and at least two banks are suffering online outages today. Why? Because the govt blocked 655 THOUSANDS IP addresses belonging to Amazon.

https://meduza.io/en/news/2018/04/16/ru...

Russia’s federal censor has reportedly ordered the country’s ISPs to start blocking hundreds of thousands of Amazon IP addresses. On Monday evening, according to Anti-Corruption Foundation activist Vladislav Zdolnikov, Roskomnadzor added four “subnet masks” to its “out-load list,” which specifies the domains and websites Russian Internet providers are required to block.

The first three subnets “encrypt” 131,000 different IP addresses each, and the fourth subnet contains another 262,00 IP addresses, meaning that the Russian government has effectively banned more than 655,000 IP addresses owned by the company Amazon.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Vazelin ::

na Putin Today še kar brez omembe bizarne nesreče raziskovalnega novinarja

no man no problem:))

Samuel ::

Vazelin je izjavil:

na Putin Today še kar brez omembe bizarne nesreče raziskovalnega novinarja

no man no problem:))


A podpremo še en mandat?
https://www.rt.com/politics/424036-kady...
If you notice this notice, you will notice that this notice is
noticably not worth noticing.

Smrekar1 ::

peburuchug je izjavil:

Rusi so primitivni, zaostali, butasti neandertalci, ki so izdelali smrtonosni ultimativni strup ki ga nihče ne more kopirat


Ni res. Iran ga je kopiral leta 2016.

posledica zastrupljenega dvojnega vohuna in njegove hčere pa je bila manjša kot pri meni ko sem pojedel preveč čingumijev (phenylalanine) in sem bil 2 dni priklenjen na skret.


Šest tednov hospitalizacije je tebi isto kot predoziranje s fenilalaninom?
No, če imaš PKU morda res. Kot otrok se nisi pazil, kajne?


Si tale levo to ti kot otrok?

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Pac-Man ::

https://meduza.io/en/news/2018/04/17/mo...

Rossotrudnichestvo (the agency with maybe the longest name in the Russian state: “for CIS affairs, compatriots living abroad, and international humanitarian cooperation”) wants to do its part to reduce the Western world’s “Russophobic” influence on Russia’s best and brightest, and so it’s launching a project as awkwardly named as itself: “Highly Likely Welcome Back or It’s Time to Come Home!”

According to the newspaper Kommersant, the program targets Russians studying abroad (but mainly in the UK) with invitations to return home and enroll at the Moscow State Institute of International Relations (MGIMO). Students who are already wrapping up their education abroad would apparently get fixed up with jobs, for example, in Russia’s scenic Far East. In 2017, roughly 60,000 Russians attended institutions of higher education abroad.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Mr.B ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

https://meduza.io/en/news/2018/04/17/mo...

Rossotrudnichestvo (the agency with maybe the longest name in the Russian state: “for CIS affairs, compatriots living abroad, and international humanitarian cooperation”) wants to do its part to reduce the Western world’s “Russophobic” influence on Russia’s best and brightest, and so it’s launching a project as awkwardly named as itself: “Highly Likely Welcome Back or It’s Time to Come Home!”

According to the newspaper Kommersant, the program targets Russians studying abroad (but mainly in the UK) with invitations to return home and enroll at the Moscow State Institute of International Relations (MGIMO). Students who are already wrapping up their education abroad would apparently get fixed up with jobs, for example, in Russia’s scenic Far East. In 2017, roughly 60,000 Russians attended institutions of higher education abroad.

Sej veš kako je v Ameriki. Tam tudi trdijo da kitajci kradejo intelektualno lastnino. Samo poglej ameriške univerze, tam je bore malo ameriških študentov. Stanje se ne bo izboljšalo še naslednjih 20 let, če začnejo danes delat na tem.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold

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peburuchug ::

Smrekar1 je izjavil:

peburuchug je izjavil:

Rusi so primitivni, zaostali, butasti neandertalci, ki so izdelali smrtonosni ultimativni strup ki ga nihče ne more kopirat


Ni res. Iran ga je kopiral leta 2016.

posledica zastrupljenega dvojnega vohuna in njegove hčere pa je bila manjša kot pri meni ko sem pojedel preveč čingumijev (phenylalanine) in sem bil 2 dni priklenjen na skret.


Šest tednov hospitalizacije je tebi isto kot predoziranje s fenilalaninom?
No, če imaš PKU morda res. Kot otrok se nisi pazil, kajne?


Si tale levo to ti kot otrok?


No malo smo pa le napredovali, sedaj je že Iran kriv ne Rusi :D Kmalu bomo prišli do resnice.
Seveda pacman spet ni mogle brez osebnih žalitev, ko zmanjka argumentov. Tudi njegov "muh Iran" je ostal brez virov, verjetno spet kakšni Izraelski intelektualci poročajo o temu kako morajo pobiti vse Irance, ker jim žalijo 6 goriljonski holiwudski propagandni hall of cost nedogodek.

Smrekar1 ::

peburuchug je izjavil:


No malo smo pa le napredovali, sedaj je že Iran kriv ne Rusi


Kako si prišel do tega zaključka? Iran je samo edini akter poleg Rusije, ki je že kdaj naredil Novičok. To seveda ne pomeni, da je krivec Iran, saj ta nima motiva. Rusija ima tudi motiv.

Pac-Man ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:



Konec sage o BZ-ju in Skripalovih, Lavrov je lagal.

Najprej je Sputnik objavil ta članek, da si pokrijejo rit.

https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201804...

BZ Toxin Possible in Skripals’ Samples as Positive Control, Not Lethal Agent

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"When OPCW sends samples to laboratories, other substances are sometimes included in the samples as what is known as positive controls. It is to test the competence of the laboratories. They have to be able to identify this positive control in the sample. If they are not able to do this then all their results are thrown into doubt," Alastair Hay, professor of environmental toxicology at the University of Leeds, UK, told Sputnik.




Danes je sledilo zasedanje OPCW, kjer so zadevo dokončno pojasnili.
Navaja tudi Sputnik, ampak ničesar na prvih straneh. Lahko klikaš kolikor hočeš, nič. Zakopano. Hint: CTRL+F in BZ.

https://sputniknews.com/world/201804181...

BZ Toxin Samples Has Nothing to Do With Salisbury Samples - OPCW Head



Z istega zasedanja OPCW pa na naslovnici najdeš

https://sputniknews.com/europe/

https://sputniknews.com/europe/20180418...

Russian Delegation to OPCW: Induced Coma Was Used to Manipulate Skripals' Health

https://sputniknews.com/world/201804181...

Russian Mission to OPCW Proposes to Make Toxic Agents Data More Classified



Se kdo počuti uporabno idiotskega, ali bo potrebno še kako leto podobnih vaj?
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Poldi112 ::

Saj, zate vemo, da ne dvomiš, racionalni ljudje bomo pa še malo počakali s sodbo.
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.

Vazelin ::

Poldi112 je izjavil:

Saj, zate vemo, da ne dvomiš, racionalni ljudje bomo pa še malo počakali s sodbo.

Nekateri tudi še ne verjamejo da so na vzhodu ukrajine ruske sile

Pac-Man ::

Poldi112 je izjavil:

Saj, zate vemo, da ne dvomiš, racionalni ljudje bomo pa še malo počakali s sodbo.


Lavrov je lagal, zgoraj dokumentirano črno na belem.

Če trdiš karkoli drugega si pač kreten.



Saj pred leti sem še nekako razumel, Irak 2003 pa to pa tisto...ampak zadj so ruske laži prešle v akutno fazo, ljudje pa še vedno trobijo isto.

In to tisti, ki se jim je ameriško obnašanje l. 2003 zdi nekaj najbolj groznega. Slepota za ironijo je resen problem.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

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Poldi112 ::

Jaz ne trdim da ne laže, daleč od tega. Vseeno smo pa še daleč od definitivnega odgovora. Edino tebi se zdi to najpomembnejša stvar na svetu, hkrati pa ignoriraš 100x pomembnejše stvari.
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.

Pac-Man ::

Izjava predsednika OPCW, zadeva je pretty fucking clear.

The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Poldi112 ::

No, potem so pač oni krivi. Moj prvi instink je bil itak, da so rusi, ker je to pač njihov modus operandi. Presenetil me je zgolj odziv zahoda. So imeli neke svoje računice in so izkoristili situacijo.
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.

Pac-Man ::

Švicarska izjava o lavrovih neumnostih. They're not impressed.

https://twitter.com/ystriya/status/9866...

So not only did Lavrov blatantly lie about DZ in the Salisbury samples, but he also broke agreed confidentiality rules, thereby both impugning the credibility of the OPCW and undermining its work.

Very strongly worded Swiss statement:

https://www.opcw.org/fileadmin/OPCW/EC/...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Vazelin ::

a ti misliš da forumske putinofile briga za izsledke?:))
Oni so apriori anti

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Pac-Man ::

Nekje moram zbirati municijo za MMC, po malem pa še vedno upam, da bo koga tu srečala pamet.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Vazelin ::

srečno z komsomolci in podobnimi MMC uporabniki:))

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Pac-Man ::

Nad tistimi sem obupal, v glavnem gre za to, da na prvih straneh niso samo njihovi umotvori. Občasno pa se grem še kak rekreacijski prepir na 10. ali 15. strani.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Pac-Man ::

https://twitter.com/leonidragozin/statu...

Mothers of young anti-fascists from Penza tell how investigators tortured their sons to extract false testimonies in the case of a non-existent organization. No, it’s not 1937 in Russia.


https://avtonom.org/en/people/case-anti...

https://avtonom.org/en/news/arrested-pe...

In October 2017, the FSB detained four antifascists in Penza: Yegor Zorin, Ilya Shakursky, Vasily Kuksov, and Dmitry Pchelintsev. In early November, they detained Andrei Chernov in Penza, and Arman Sagynbayev, who was in Petersburg at the time. All six young men have been accused of involvement in a “terrorist community” (a criminal offense under Article 205.4 Part 2 of the Russian Federal Criminal Code). According to the FSB, the six had established an organization, known as the Network (Set). They planned a series of bomb blasts during the presidential election, in March, and the World Cup, in June and July, that would “sway the popular masses in order to subsequently destabilize the political situation [in Russia]” and set off an armed insurrection.

The Network allegedly had cells functioning in Moscow, Petersburg, Penza, and Belarus [an independent country]. On January 23, 2018, antifascist Viktor Filinkov was detained in Petersburg, followed two days later by Igor Shishkin. Friends and family could not find either of them for over a day. A court had remanded both of them in custody as members of the alleged “terrorist community.”

In Penza, relatives of the detained activists told how law enforcement officers had planted weapons in the men’s cars and flats, and subjected them to torture by shocking them with electrical wires and hanging them upside down. According to friends and loved ones, all the detained men had been airsoft enthusiasts.

“All they ever did was learn how to render first aid in field conditions and survive in the woods. Is that illegal?” Angelina Pchelintseva, Dmitry Pchelintsev’s wife, asked OVD Info.


https://therussianreader.com/2018/04/12...

A FSB investigator and NTV reporters have pressured Yelena, mother of Ilya Shakursky, one of the nine young men charged so far in the so-called Network case, as reported in a communique by the Parents Network, a committee of relatives of the young men, who have been accused of involvement in a “terrorist community,” allegedly codenamed The Network.

The FSB investigator summoned Shakursky’s mother and suggested she give an interview to NTV, promising her it would “count towards [her son’s sentence] at the trial.” However, he told her she must tell the reporters Shakursky was, in fact, a member of The Network and under no circumstances mention that her son and the other young male defendants had simply gotten together to play airsoft.

...

According to Yelena, the NTV reporters were curious not only about Shakursky’s involvement in the alleged organization but also in her own interactions with human rights defenders. They insisted she say on camera that human rights defenders had made promises to her and tried to persuade her to do something.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Pac-Man ::

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl...

A broken spine, signs of electric torture, asphyxiation, knife wounds and rape – these were just a few of the grim and unexpected findings of an official medical report into the death of a Russian inventor in pretrial custody.

Valery Pshenichny, 56, was jailed in January after being accused of embezzling 100m rubles (£1.1m) in a defence contract to develop 3D submarine models. Just three weeks later, his body was found hanging from an improvised lace noose in his St Petersburg prison cell.

Prison authorities initially insisted it was suicide, but friends of the businessman sensed something was up.

...

Surprisingly, authorities have agreed foul play was involved, and have signalled a dramatic departure in their investigation by reportedly collecting DNA samples from prison guards.

...

Like Sergei Magnitsky, Pshenichny’s problems began when he accused another of fraud. In this case, it was a former business partner, Andrei Petrov, who the entrepreneur accused of stealing company money. A criminal case and arrest followed in 2016. But in the course of the ensuing trial, Mr Petrov successfully managed to turn the tables. It was, instead, Valery Pshenichny who was found guilty of fraud and inflating the cost of a defence contract.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Smrekar1 ::

Rusijo bo potrebno počasi zapisovati z malo začetnico, podvojiti tisti s na sredini in ga zapisati z velikima črkama.

peburuchug ::

Smrekar1 je izjavil:

Rusijo bo potrebno počasi zapisovati z malo začetnico, podvojiti tisti s na sredini in ga zapisati z velikima črkama.


Wow, Putin je dobesedno Hitler. Kako intelektualno in politično korektno. Škoda da jaz nimam tako visokega IQja da bi požrl in ponavljal vse kar mi velevajo naši gospodarji. Neodvisno razmišljanje je treba zakonsko prepovedati.

Pac-Man ::

Čestitam.
Nič čudnega, da ga tako čislaš.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

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Smrekar1 ::

peburuchug je izjavil:


Wow, Putin je dobesedno Hitler.


Putin je bolj Mussolini kot Hitler. Do Hitlerja mu manjka še kar precej, med drugim je Hitler precej pripomogel k razvoju nemške industrije in infrastrukture, zaradi česar ga nekateri manj inteligentni še zdaj malikujejo.


Nemčija


roSSija

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peburuchug ::

Smrekar1 je izjavil:

peburuchug je izjavil:


Wow, Putin je dobesedno Hitler.



Kaj pa je potem Bibi?
Pod njegovim vodstvom izganjajo črnce, pobijajo palestince, izvajajo napade na praktično vse okoliške države... in se še širijo na tuja ozemlja?

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Pac-Man ::

Comeyevi memi so ušli ven, kogar zanima - internet je poln vsega.

Zankrat samo tale simpatičen trik. Odgovor je lahko da ali ne, iz dolžine cenzuriranega dela se da ugibati, kaj.

https://twitter.com/pwnallthethings/sta...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
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