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NATO in Rusija
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Pac-Man ::
Rusija je aprila 2014 odvzela frekvenco radiu VOA, zdaj pa jokajo, ker se morajo registrirati kot tuji agenti. Oddajajo še vedno.
http://articles.latimes.com/2014/apr/11...
The Russian government has cut off broadcasts of Voice of America after a leading state media figure denounced the U.S. government-funded radio as "spam on our frequencies."
VOA's contract with the Russian media oversight agency wasn't renewed after it expired at the end of March because the Kremlin could no longer tolerate "its subversive, sanctimonious, self-serving propaganda," the Voice of Russia said in its account of the cutoff.
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"We are not going to cooperate anymore," Dmitri Kiselyov, head of the Russia Today news agency, wrote in a March 21 letter to the U.S. Broadcasting Board of Governors, the government agency in Washington that oversees VOA.
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"They sound like they are broadcasting from another world, at least from a world that doesn’t exist anymore,” Kiselyov said in the letter urging the government to refuse a new contract with VOA and a sister network. “I regard these radio stations as mere spam on our frequencies."
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A Voice of Russia commentary cast the VOA shutdown as long overdue.
"The move is yet another indicator of the fact that the Russian Government, which has so far been patient as the US/NATO attempt to continue to surround it with missiles and continue to demonize everything Russian, is beginning to take serious measures to protect itself, its people and its allies," said the Russian state radio commentator, John Robles.
He described VOA as an "aging, recidivist Cold War propaganda machine seeking to stay relevant by creating its own bogeymen and brainwashing the masses to promote knuckle-dragging caveman policies of force and subservience."
http://articles.latimes.com/2014/apr/11...
The Russian government has cut off broadcasts of Voice of America after a leading state media figure denounced the U.S. government-funded radio as "spam on our frequencies."
VOA's contract with the Russian media oversight agency wasn't renewed after it expired at the end of March because the Kremlin could no longer tolerate "its subversive, sanctimonious, self-serving propaganda," the Voice of Russia said in its account of the cutoff.
...
"We are not going to cooperate anymore," Dmitri Kiselyov, head of the Russia Today news agency, wrote in a March 21 letter to the U.S. Broadcasting Board of Governors, the government agency in Washington that oversees VOA.
...
"They sound like they are broadcasting from another world, at least from a world that doesn’t exist anymore,” Kiselyov said in the letter urging the government to refuse a new contract with VOA and a sister network. “I regard these radio stations as mere spam on our frequencies."
...
A Voice of Russia commentary cast the VOA shutdown as long overdue.
"The move is yet another indicator of the fact that the Russian Government, which has so far been patient as the US/NATO attempt to continue to surround it with missiles and continue to demonize everything Russian, is beginning to take serious measures to protect itself, its people and its allies," said the Russian state radio commentator, John Robles.
He described VOA as an "aging, recidivist Cold War propaganda machine seeking to stay relevant by creating its own bogeymen and brainwashing the masses to promote knuckle-dragging caveman policies of force and subservience."
Smrekar1 ::
Ne vem, koliko je resnice, ampak Rusi naj bi že spraševali za/ponujali partnerstvo v NATO. Nekje je posnetek mislim da Lavrova, ki to omenja. Ali je bilo v šali, ali zares?????
Reciva takole, spodnji link vsebuje boljši približen resnici.
https://www.tfes.org/
fikus_ ::
O, si se oglasil!
Obstaja nekje posnetek vzet iz konteksta. Vprašanje je, koliko je res oz. za šalo.
Obstaja nekje posnetek vzet iz konteksta. Vprašanje je, koliko je res oz. za šalo.
Iatromantis ::
Ne vem, koliko je resnice, ampak Rusi naj bi že spraševali za/ponujali partnerstvo v NATO. Nekje je posnetek mislim da Lavrova, ki to omenja. Ali je bilo v šali, ali zares?????
Russian President Vladimir Putin once suggested to then-US president Bill Clinton that Russia join the Washington-led military alliance, Putin said in an interview with American film director Oliver Stone.
“I remember one of our last meetings with President Clinton, when Clinton was still in office. He visited Moscow and during a discussion I said, ‘So, what if [we] consider an option of Russia maybe joining NATO,’” Putin said in one of his conversations with Stone.
https://www.rt.com/news/390724-putin-cl...
konspirator ::
konspirator je izjavil:
Nato je nastal kot protiutež Varšavskemu paktu, ki ga že dolgo ni več, Nato je organizacija brez pomena.
Iz protiuteži je postal prva obrambna linija bivšega varšavskega pakta. NATO ima pomen.
NATO ima pomen, če se na tvojem koledarju piše leto 1985.
Vse ostalo je BS.
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Pac-Man ::
Torej BS:
Russo-Georgian War @ Wikipedia
Russian military intervention in Ukraine (2014%E2%80%93present) @ Wikipedia
V Litvo, Latvijo in Estonijo (zaenkrat) ne upajo. Hm, le zakaj?
Russo-Georgian War @ Wikipedia
Russian military intervention in Ukraine (2014%E2%80%93present) @ Wikipedia
V Litvo, Latvijo in Estonijo (zaenkrat) ne upajo. Hm, le zakaj?
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Starodavni ::
Hvala bogu da NATO še obstaja, ker je ravno to odganjalec ruskih apetitov po območjih, ki jih je izgubila s padcem Sovjetske zveze. Ukrajina in Gruzija bi morali bidi že pred vsem tem članici NATA in bi bile zadeve konkretno drugačne, ne bi bilo nobene vojne v Gruziji in Ukrajini. In to očitam Američanom in Zahodni Evropi - politiko popuščanja. Nobene popuščanja ne bi smeli kazati do Rusije v začetku, ko je bilo očitno da se mehanizmi demokratične države brišejo in jih spreminjajo v avtokracijo.
Če bi se po koncu hladne vojne odločili da ukinejo NATO in umaknejo vso to vojsko, bi se taka poteza kaj hitro maščevala. Ko bi se Rusija dovolj opomogla in bolj oborožila bi začela gnjaviti po manjših sosednjih državah in jih tudi pripojiti.
Samo pro-rusi bi pa očitno radi videli, da bi Ruska beda in revščina zavzeli celotno vzhodno in nato zahodno Evropo.
Z Rusi se pač ni za zajebavati, oni poznajo samo udarec po glavi, diplomacija je pa zanje samo orodje da te zafrknejo na suho.
Da ne govorim o tem, da bi bila Ukrajina na veliko boljšem položaju, če jedrskega arzenala ne bi prepustila Rusiji v zameno za spoštovanje ozemeljske celovitosti s sporazumom v Budimpešti, ki je bil sklenjen 5 decembra 1994
Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances @ Wikipedia
The memorandum included security assurances against threats or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine, Belarus and Kazakhstan.
Smo videli začetek leta 2014 kako se je to končalo. Rusija je obljubo požrla in od takrat naprej je postalo jasno da Rusija ni nič boljša od Američanov, če ne še slabša, ker imajo naravnost obupno ekonomsko sliko za povprečnega prebivalca.
Če bi se po koncu hladne vojne odločili da ukinejo NATO in umaknejo vso to vojsko, bi se taka poteza kaj hitro maščevala. Ko bi se Rusija dovolj opomogla in bolj oborožila bi začela gnjaviti po manjših sosednjih državah in jih tudi pripojiti.
Samo pro-rusi bi pa očitno radi videli, da bi Ruska beda in revščina zavzeli celotno vzhodno in nato zahodno Evropo.
Z Rusi se pač ni za zajebavati, oni poznajo samo udarec po glavi, diplomacija je pa zanje samo orodje da te zafrknejo na suho.
Da ne govorim o tem, da bi bila Ukrajina na veliko boljšem položaju, če jedrskega arzenala ne bi prepustila Rusiji v zameno za spoštovanje ozemeljske celovitosti s sporazumom v Budimpešti, ki je bil sklenjen 5 decembra 1994
Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances @ Wikipedia
The memorandum included security assurances against threats or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine, Belarus and Kazakhstan.
Smo videli začetek leta 2014 kako se je to končalo. Rusija je obljubo požrla in od takrat naprej je postalo jasno da Rusija ni nič boljša od Američanov, če ne še slabša, ker imajo naravnost obupno ekonomsko sliko za povprečnega prebivalca.
Poldi112 ::
Kakšno popuščanje? Če kdo popušča, so to rusi. Ko je Gorbačev pustil Nemčiji, da gre na zahod, mu je Bush obljubil, da se nato ne bo širil na vzhod. Pa poglej kje so zdaj. Kako hudiča naj se rusi ne počutijo ogrožene? Medtem ko se američanom praktično sfuzlja, ko rusi na kubi postavijo nekaj raket...
Nato že desetletja ni več defenzivna organizacija.
Nato že desetletja ni več defenzivna organizacija.
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
7tom1ja ::
https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/9384...
Ukrainian supporters of former Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili free him from a police van
Noro, da obstajajo ljudje s takšnimi prepričanji, škoda, da so SU umaknili jedrske konice s Kube; to bi šele zagotovilo varnost....
Ukrainian supporters of former Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili free him from a police van
Starodavni je izjavil:
Hvala bogu da NATO še obstaja, ker je ravno to odganjalec ruskih apetitov po območjih, ki jih je izgubila s padcem Sovjetske zveze. Ukrajina in Gruzija bi morali bidi že pred vsem tem članici NATA in bi bile zadeve konkretno drugačne, ne bi bilo nobene vojne v Gruziji in Ukrajini. In to očitam Američanom in Zahodni Evropi - politiko popuščanja. Nobene popuščanja ne bi smeli kazati do Rusije v začetku, ko je bilo očitno da se mehanizmi demokratične države brišejo in jih spreminjajo v avtokracijo.
Če bi se po koncu hladne vojne odločili da ukinejo NATO in umaknejo vso to vojsko, bi se taka poteza kaj hitro maščevala. Ko bi se Rusija dovolj opomogla in bolj oborožila bi začela gnjaviti po manjših sosednjih državah in jih tudi pripojiti.
Samo pro-rusi bi pa očitno radi videli, da bi Ruska beda in revščina zavzeli celotno vzhodno in nato zahodno Evropo.
Z Rusi se pač ni za zajebavati, oni poznajo samo udarec po glavi, diplomacija je pa zanje samo orodje da te zafrknejo na suho.
Da ne govorim o tem, da bi bila Ukrajina na veliko boljšem položaju, če jedrskega arzenala ne bi prepustila Rusiji v zameno za spoštovanje ozemeljske celovitosti s sporazumom v Budimpešti, ki je bil sklenjen 5 decembra 1994
Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances @ Wikipedia
The memorandum included security assurances against threats or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine, Belarus and Kazakhstan.
Smo videli začetek leta 2014 kako se je to končalo. Rusija je obljubo požrla in od takrat naprej je postalo jasno da Rusija ni nič boljša od Američanov, če ne še slabša, ker imajo naravnost obupno ekonomsko sliko za povprečnega prebivalca.
Noro, da obstajajo ljudje s takšnimi prepričanji, škoda, da so SU umaknili jedrske konice s Kube; to bi šele zagotovilo varnost....
Na nas leži naloga, da naprej razvijamo našo samoupravno socialistično družbo,
da jo gradimo na revolucionarnih temeljih, temeljih marksizma.
Brigada AVNOJ 77;Komisar Ivan Janša
da jo gradimo na revolucionarnih temeljih, temeljih marksizma.
Brigada AVNOJ 77;Komisar Ivan Janša
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7tom1ja ::
Kaj bi rekel...
Najbolje za Rusijo bi bilo, ce bi se integrirala v EU in NATO. V tem primeru bi bila celotna severna polobla povezana in kmalu bi mogla slediti se Kitajska in ostale drzave. Vendar Putin raje gradi svojo koalicijo diktatorskih drzav na obmocju bivse sovjetske zveze. Razlog oziroma opravicilo za to naj bi bilo, da bi v evroatlantskih integracijah Rusija izgubila svojo moc. No to pa bi moralo biti predmet pogajanj. Clanice evroatlantskih povezav bi morale uzivati precej suverenosti. Zakaj? Ce se eni drzavi slucajno zmesa in pocne grozne stvari, da jo ostale clanice lahko blokirajo in ustavijo.
Putin bo vodil Rusijo se en mandat. Edini primeren naslednik se mi zdi Medvedov, ki upam da bo naredil kaj v tej smeri kot sem zgoraj napisal.
Ti resno verjameš, da bi amerji pustili Rusijo v NATO, edini cilj NATA je prodaja orožja
Na nas leži naloga, da naprej razvijamo našo samoupravno socialistično družbo,
da jo gradimo na revolucionarnih temeljih, temeljih marksizma.
Brigada AVNOJ 77;Komisar Ivan Janša
da jo gradimo na revolucionarnih temeljih, temeljih marksizma.
Brigada AVNOJ 77;Komisar Ivan Janša
Pac-Man ::
Priporočam v celoti.
http://observer.com/2017/12/does-john-c...
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The sensational Levy case was the talk of the town in our nation’s capital back in mid-2001, dominating local headlines in that long, last summer before jihadists took down the Twin Towers and America commenced its seemingly endless War on Terrorism. Chandra Levy, a pretty young intern, became a sensation after her disappearance. She belongs to a now-vanished age in Washington, swept away by 9/11, and her case remains as mysterious as on the day she disappeared: May 1, 2001.
...
Who, then, killed Chandra? From the beginning there were whispers that there was a lot more to this case than the police or media let on. I was working in counterintelligence for the National Security Agency at the time, and I heard the whispers too. They centered on Condit’s political life. He was a senior member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, the powerful oversight committee for our spy agencies. HPSCI members are cleared to know pretty much all the Intelligence Community’s secrets. As such, they are obvious targets for exploitation by foreign spies.
It wasn’t difficult to imagine that a guy with zipper problems like Condit could have easily gotten himself into a jam and wound up doing things he regretted. This would also explain why Condit, despite having nothing to do with his lover’s death, refused to talk about the case and gave evasive answers to simple questions. He hinted at illicit shenanigans in his semi-memoir, published last year, in which he gives his side of the Levy case. One of its stranger passages was noted by a reviewer:
Condit recounts attending the World Economic Forum at Davos, Switzerland, where he was seated near a Russian woman he describes as “very pretty” with “brown hair and fair skin that melted into her white dress.” They conversed, and then she prepared to take a taxi to her hotel.
“I’ll have the driver drop you off first,” he offered.
Then, the book says, “She got out of line and followed him to the town car.”
The scene ends there.
Is Condit trying to tell us something here? It doesn’t take much imagination to see what possibly—just possibly—might have happened to Chandra Levy. Let’s say you’re working for a foreign intelligence agency in Washington and, miraculously, you’ve managed to strike up a relationship with a powerful member of Congress. Even better, he’s a member of the HPSCI and he has access to valuable spy secrets. This is your career-making golden source.
But there’s a catch. Your would-be star has lady problems. Lots of them. One of his mistresses—the young, naïve, pretty one who thinks she and the congressman have a long and bright future ahead of them—is making noises about exposing him or making him pay for not taking their relationship seriously. You find out about this because, of course, you have the congressman’s phone tapped and you intercept the young lady’s increasingly hysterical calls. What would you do to protect your golden source?
http://observer.com/2017/12/does-john-c...
...
The sensational Levy case was the talk of the town in our nation’s capital back in mid-2001, dominating local headlines in that long, last summer before jihadists took down the Twin Towers and America commenced its seemingly endless War on Terrorism. Chandra Levy, a pretty young intern, became a sensation after her disappearance. She belongs to a now-vanished age in Washington, swept away by 9/11, and her case remains as mysterious as on the day she disappeared: May 1, 2001.
...
Who, then, killed Chandra? From the beginning there were whispers that there was a lot more to this case than the police or media let on. I was working in counterintelligence for the National Security Agency at the time, and I heard the whispers too. They centered on Condit’s political life. He was a senior member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, the powerful oversight committee for our spy agencies. HPSCI members are cleared to know pretty much all the Intelligence Community’s secrets. As such, they are obvious targets for exploitation by foreign spies.
It wasn’t difficult to imagine that a guy with zipper problems like Condit could have easily gotten himself into a jam and wound up doing things he regretted. This would also explain why Condit, despite having nothing to do with his lover’s death, refused to talk about the case and gave evasive answers to simple questions. He hinted at illicit shenanigans in his semi-memoir, published last year, in which he gives his side of the Levy case. One of its stranger passages was noted by a reviewer:
Condit recounts attending the World Economic Forum at Davos, Switzerland, where he was seated near a Russian woman he describes as “very pretty” with “brown hair and fair skin that melted into her white dress.” They conversed, and then she prepared to take a taxi to her hotel.
“I’ll have the driver drop you off first,” he offered.
Then, the book says, “She got out of line and followed him to the town car.”
The scene ends there.
Is Condit trying to tell us something here? It doesn’t take much imagination to see what possibly—just possibly—might have happened to Chandra Levy. Let’s say you’re working for a foreign intelligence agency in Washington and, miraculously, you’ve managed to strike up a relationship with a powerful member of Congress. Even better, he’s a member of the HPSCI and he has access to valuable spy secrets. This is your career-making golden source.
But there’s a catch. Your would-be star has lady problems. Lots of them. One of his mistresses—the young, naïve, pretty one who thinks she and the congressman have a long and bright future ahead of them—is making noises about exposing him or making him pay for not taking their relationship seriously. You find out about this because, of course, you have the congressman’s phone tapped and you intercept the young lady’s increasingly hysterical calls. What would you do to protect your golden source?
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
Rusija podpira skrajno desnico v EU.
https://twitter.com/panyiszabolcs/statu...
Today, Hungarian authorities have officially charged far-right MEP Béla Kovács with "engaging in espionage in the interests of a foreign state" - meaning Russia, of course. My background on the 'KGBéla' story for @VSquare_Project:
https://vsquare.org/the-great-escape-of...
Suspicious facts about Kovács:
-His real father was a Russian military officer.
-His wife, Svetlana Istoshina, was a KGB courier.
-Istoshina is a weird polygamist: in the '80s, she was married to a Japanese nuclear scientist and an Austrian mobster too, not just Kovács.
-His comrades in Jobbik, the Hungarian far-right party, gave him the nickname "KGBéla".
-Kovács studied, lived&did business in Russia, he claims. As he returned to Hungary, Kovács offered his services to Jobbik, donated money to the party&became their No.1 foreign policy guy.
-Before Kovács's arrival, Jobbik was an old school, anti-Communist, anti-Russian far-right party. He soon turned it into a pro-Russian one. As a result, Jobbik MPs visited Crimea as "observers" of the fake referendum&supported the Russian annexation.
https://twitter.com/panyiszabolcs/statu...
Today, Hungarian authorities have officially charged far-right MEP Béla Kovács with "engaging in espionage in the interests of a foreign state" - meaning Russia, of course. My background on the 'KGBéla' story for @VSquare_Project:
https://vsquare.org/the-great-escape-of...
Suspicious facts about Kovács:
-His real father was a Russian military officer.
-His wife, Svetlana Istoshina, was a KGB courier.
-Istoshina is a weird polygamist: in the '80s, she was married to a Japanese nuclear scientist and an Austrian mobster too, not just Kovács.
-His comrades in Jobbik, the Hungarian far-right party, gave him the nickname "KGBéla".
-Kovács studied, lived&did business in Russia, he claims. As he returned to Hungary, Kovács offered his services to Jobbik, donated money to the party&became their No.1 foreign policy guy.
-Before Kovács's arrival, Jobbik was an old school, anti-Communist, anti-Russian far-right party. He soon turned it into a pro-Russian one. As a result, Jobbik MPs visited Crimea as "observers" of the fake referendum&supported the Russian annexation.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Mr.B ::
Pac-pan,
A potem ta mentalitetni problem, ne smemo uporabljati, ce je v besedi jud.
A potem ta mentalitetni problem, ne smemo uporabljati, ce je v besedi jud.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Pac-Man ::
hehe
https://twitter.com/DarthPutinKGB/statu...
There will be Russian athletes competing at the Winter Olympics in unmarked uniforms. Appropriate, given that's how our army operates too.
https://twitter.com/DarthPutinKGB/statu...
There will be Russian athletes competing at the Winter Olympics in unmarked uniforms. Appropriate, given that's how our army operates too.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
Moje sorte ljudje :)
Molotov bread basket @ Wikipedia
In 1939 the Soviet Foreign Minister, Vyacheslav Molotov, claimed the Soviet Union was not dropping bombs on Finland, but merely airlifting food to starving Finns. The Finns were not starving, and they ironically dubbed the RRAB-3 cluster bomb "Molotov's bread basket." They also named the improvised incendiary device that they used to counter Soviet tanks, commonly known as the Molotov cocktail, "a drink to go with the food."
Molotov cocktail @ Wikipedia
The name "Molotov cocktail" was coined by the Finns during the Winter War, called in Finnish: Polttopullo or Molotovin koktaili. The name was an insulting reference to Soviet foreign minister Vyacheslav Molotov, who was one of the architects of the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact signed in late August 1939. The pact with Nazi Germany was widely mocked by the Finns, as was much of the propaganda Molotov produced to accompany the pact, including his declaration on Soviet state radio that bombing missions over Finland were actually airborne humanitarian food deliveries for their starving neighbours. The Finns sarcastically dubbed the Soviet cluster bombs "Molotov bread baskets" in reference to Molotov's propaganda broadcasts. When the hand-held bottle firebomb was developed to attack Soviet tanks, the Finns called it the "Molotov cocktail", as "a drink to go with the food".
Molotov bread basket @ Wikipedia
In 1939 the Soviet Foreign Minister, Vyacheslav Molotov, claimed the Soviet Union was not dropping bombs on Finland, but merely airlifting food to starving Finns. The Finns were not starving, and they ironically dubbed the RRAB-3 cluster bomb "Molotov's bread basket." They also named the improvised incendiary device that they used to counter Soviet tanks, commonly known as the Molotov cocktail, "a drink to go with the food."
Molotov cocktail @ Wikipedia
The name "Molotov cocktail" was coined by the Finns during the Winter War, called in Finnish: Polttopullo or Molotovin koktaili. The name was an insulting reference to Soviet foreign minister Vyacheslav Molotov, who was one of the architects of the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact signed in late August 1939. The pact with Nazi Germany was widely mocked by the Finns, as was much of the propaganda Molotov produced to accompany the pact, including his declaration on Soviet state radio that bombing missions over Finland were actually airborne humanitarian food deliveries for their starving neighbours. The Finns sarcastically dubbed the Soviet cluster bombs "Molotov bread baskets" in reference to Molotov's propaganda broadcasts. When the hand-held bottle firebomb was developed to attack Soviet tanks, the Finns called it the "Molotov cocktail", as "a drink to go with the food".
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
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- spremenilo: Pac-Man ()
ADIJOOO1 ::
Pac-Man ::
Ameriške športnike testirajo.
Košarkaše v Londonu 2012 so Srbi.
http://www.adas.org.rs/vesti/2014/09/15...
Košarkaše v Londonu 2012 so Srbi.
http://www.adas.org.rs/vesti/2014/09/15...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
ADIJOOO1 ::
Ameriške športnike testirajo.
Košarkaše v Londonu 2012 so Srbi.
http://www.adas.org.rs/vesti/2014/09/15...
Seveda seveda tukaj pride pa, do tistega izraza dvojni standard "testiranje ameriških športnikov". Tukaj ne gre za doping ampak za politiko
Pac-Man ::
Sure they do.
Si bom zapomnil, kdaj sem zadnjič pozabil lepit. Iz zgornje povezave, uradna izjava Antidoping agencije Republike Srbije:
Doping kontrolori Antidoping agencije Republike Srbije su testirali najbolje američke košarkaše više puta, poslednji put na Olimpijskim igrama u Londonu, kada je među ostalima testiran i Kevin Durant. Kuriozitet je i da je Stefen Kari (sadašnji bek američkog tima) igrao u najboljem američkom timu u Novom Sadu 2007, kada su ih naši omladinci pobedili i postali svetski prvaci. I tada je rađena doping kontrola.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Smrekar1 ::
Pac-Man ::
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
ADIJOOO1 ::
Pac-Man ::
Zanimiv račun
https://twitter.com/RealTimeWWII
Par objav o zimski vojni tam od 26. novembra:
Village of Mainila, on Soviet side of Finland-USSR border, has been shelled by unknown guns- 4 people are reported dead. Soviets blaming Finland. In reality, no Finnish artillery is in range of the Soviet border. Red Army have shelled their own village, falsely claiming soldiers killed, to give a pretext for attack on Finland.
USSR is demanding that all Finnish troops be withdrawn at least 25 miles from Soviet border after shelling of Mainila- claims Finnish presence is a "hostile act".
Finnish PM Paavo Cajander called "snake", "scarecrow", "imperialist puppet" & "clown standing on his head" in today's edition of Soviet newspaper Pravda.
Anti-Finnish demonstration marching through Leningrad, chanting "Kulak-bands armed by capitalists should be expelled from the Soviet border."
Finnish Minister of Defence Juho Niukkanen says the Soviets are bluffing: "They wouldn't be so stupid as to invade in the middle of winter!"
The USSR has renounced its non-aggression treaty with Finland due to "hostile actions"; Moscow radio reports 3 more incidents on border, plus disputed shelling of village of Mainila.
Finland has offered to withdraw its troops 25km from Soviet border, as USSR originally demanded. Soviet ambassadors now leaving Helsinki & Red Army mobilising.
Red Army troops have crossed the Finnish border in 8 different places: Soviet Union is invading with over 450,000 men, & 1000 tanks.
Russian planes now bombing central Helsinki. Not a single bomb has hit the target of the central railway station, but 61 people are dead.
Soviets attacking along entire length of Finnish border, from Karelian isthmus in the south to Arctic Circle; Moscow aims to slice country in half at Suomussalmi.
Soviet ultimatum, now being read out on Radio Helsinki: surrender by 3AM tomorrow or "all cities & strategic centres will be destroyed."
Italy condemning Soviet invasion of Finland; UK PM Chamberlain: "deepest regret" over attack. German policy: "benevolent neutrality".
USSR has proclaimed creation of a new country, the Finnish Democratic Republic, headed by Finnish Communist Kuusinen. Its territory currently consists of the Soviet-occupied village of Terijoki (pop. 6700).
Pravda (Soviet paper): "The USSR, which rejects violent seizure of territory, will secure independence for the Finnish Democratic Republic."
The entire Finnish cabinet has resigned, after failing to stop war with the USSR. New York Times: New government "expected to seek truce" to end Red Army invasion.
Finns booby-trapping land as they retreat: floating mines tethered underneath frozen lakes, to smash ice as Soviet troops & tanks cross. Finnish villages have been filled with landmines, with detonators set under toilet seats, doorways & beds. Wells poisoned or fouled with sewage.
Cartoon from today's New York Times, "Mr. Stalin Revolutionizes the Drama": USSR is claiming it has invaded Finland in response to "Finnish aggression".
Most non-essential civilians have been evacuated from Finland's capital Helsinki due to threat of Soviet bombing; ~50,000 people remain.
USSR has rejected Finns' offer of peace talks. Soviets say they are allies of "true government": communist Democratic Republic of Finland, set up in USSR.
100s of foreigners volunteering to Finnish military wanting to fight against Red Army invasion- mostly Swedes, Norwegians & Danes, also 2 Japanese. Oldest is 66.
League of Nations has rebuked USSR for invasion of Finland. USSR: We are not at war, as we do not recognise existence of Finland's old government, only new communist govt. set up in Soviet-occupied territory.
Finns are desperately short on anti-tank guns; they're resorting to creeping up on Red Army tanks & jamming crowbars or logs into tank treads to immobilise them.
Soviet Foreign Minister Molotov claims USSR is not bombing Finland, but dropping "food parcels". Finns have nicknamed Soviet cluster bombs "Molotov's bread baskets."
Finnish soldiers have improvised an anti-tank weapon: bottle filled with fuel & set alight. To mock Soviet Foreign minister, they call it a "Molotov cocktail". Finns smash the bottle on a Soviet tank's cooling vents (burning liquid drips in, setting fire to ammo/crew) yelling: "Here's a drink to go with the bread!"
Founding of "People's Army of Finland" announced by Soviet puppet govt. at Terijoki. Made up of exiled Finnish Communists, its forbidden to fight: they're being held for expected victory parade in Helsinki.
Denmark, Sweden & Norwary have declared neutrality in the Finland-USSR war, but 1000s of Scandinavians volunteering to fight for Finns. Swedish poster: "This concerns us all."
https://twitter.com/RealTimeWWII
Par objav o zimski vojni tam od 26. novembra:
Village of Mainila, on Soviet side of Finland-USSR border, has been shelled by unknown guns- 4 people are reported dead. Soviets blaming Finland. In reality, no Finnish artillery is in range of the Soviet border. Red Army have shelled their own village, falsely claiming soldiers killed, to give a pretext for attack on Finland.
USSR is demanding that all Finnish troops be withdrawn at least 25 miles from Soviet border after shelling of Mainila- claims Finnish presence is a "hostile act".
Finnish PM Paavo Cajander called "snake", "scarecrow", "imperialist puppet" & "clown standing on his head" in today's edition of Soviet newspaper Pravda.
Anti-Finnish demonstration marching through Leningrad, chanting "Kulak-bands armed by capitalists should be expelled from the Soviet border."
Finnish Minister of Defence Juho Niukkanen says the Soviets are bluffing: "They wouldn't be so stupid as to invade in the middle of winter!"
The USSR has renounced its non-aggression treaty with Finland due to "hostile actions"; Moscow radio reports 3 more incidents on border, plus disputed shelling of village of Mainila.
Finland has offered to withdraw its troops 25km from Soviet border, as USSR originally demanded. Soviet ambassadors now leaving Helsinki & Red Army mobilising.
Red Army troops have crossed the Finnish border in 8 different places: Soviet Union is invading with over 450,000 men, & 1000 tanks.
Russian planes now bombing central Helsinki. Not a single bomb has hit the target of the central railway station, but 61 people are dead.
Soviets attacking along entire length of Finnish border, from Karelian isthmus in the south to Arctic Circle; Moscow aims to slice country in half at Suomussalmi.
Soviet ultimatum, now being read out on Radio Helsinki: surrender by 3AM tomorrow or "all cities & strategic centres will be destroyed."
Italy condemning Soviet invasion of Finland; UK PM Chamberlain: "deepest regret" over attack. German policy: "benevolent neutrality".
USSR has proclaimed creation of a new country, the Finnish Democratic Republic, headed by Finnish Communist Kuusinen. Its territory currently consists of the Soviet-occupied village of Terijoki (pop. 6700).
Pravda (Soviet paper): "The USSR, which rejects violent seizure of territory, will secure independence for the Finnish Democratic Republic."
The entire Finnish cabinet has resigned, after failing to stop war with the USSR. New York Times: New government "expected to seek truce" to end Red Army invasion.
Finns booby-trapping land as they retreat: floating mines tethered underneath frozen lakes, to smash ice as Soviet troops & tanks cross. Finnish villages have been filled with landmines, with detonators set under toilet seats, doorways & beds. Wells poisoned or fouled with sewage.
Cartoon from today's New York Times, "Mr. Stalin Revolutionizes the Drama": USSR is claiming it has invaded Finland in response to "Finnish aggression".
Most non-essential civilians have been evacuated from Finland's capital Helsinki due to threat of Soviet bombing; ~50,000 people remain.
USSR has rejected Finns' offer of peace talks. Soviets say they are allies of "true government": communist Democratic Republic of Finland, set up in USSR.
100s of foreigners volunteering to Finnish military wanting to fight against Red Army invasion- mostly Swedes, Norwegians & Danes, also 2 Japanese. Oldest is 66.
League of Nations has rebuked USSR for invasion of Finland. USSR: We are not at war, as we do not recognise existence of Finland's old government, only new communist govt. set up in Soviet-occupied territory.
Finns are desperately short on anti-tank guns; they're resorting to creeping up on Red Army tanks & jamming crowbars or logs into tank treads to immobilise them.
Soviet Foreign Minister Molotov claims USSR is not bombing Finland, but dropping "food parcels". Finns have nicknamed Soviet cluster bombs "Molotov's bread baskets."
Finnish soldiers have improvised an anti-tank weapon: bottle filled with fuel & set alight. To mock Soviet Foreign minister, they call it a "Molotov cocktail". Finns smash the bottle on a Soviet tank's cooling vents (burning liquid drips in, setting fire to ammo/crew) yelling: "Here's a drink to go with the bread!"
Founding of "People's Army of Finland" announced by Soviet puppet govt. at Terijoki. Made up of exiled Finnish Communists, its forbidden to fight: they're being held for expected victory parade in Helsinki.
Denmark, Sweden & Norwary have declared neutrality in the Finland-USSR war, but 1000s of Scandinavians volunteering to fight for Finns. Swedish poster: "This concerns us all."
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Mr.B ::
Verjamem da ima PAc-Man ov prispevek nekj z natom. bo ze vedel.. No pa ce gremo skoraj stoletje kasneje, da si ravno nekateri še veno živijo v letu 45 prejšnjega stoletja, imamo članek iz leta 2017. NATO Would Be Totally Outmatched In A Conventional War With Russia Žalostno da Pac-Manove demokracije silijo v Jederski spopad namesto dialoga.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Pac-Man ::
Verjamem da ima PAc-Man ov prispevek nekj z natom. bo ze vedel..
Pove obilo o ruskih metodah. Če spremljaš Sirijo in Ukrajino, bi ti moralo biti hitro jasno.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
konspirator ::
Kaj pove o ZDA metodah ?
Ko postavijo svojo (ilegalno) bazo v Siriji in potem trolajo Ruse (ki so tam na povabilo Sirske vlade) https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2017/9-d... .
Ko postavijo svojo (ilegalno) bazo v Siriji in potem trolajo Ruse (ki so tam na povabilo Sirske vlade) https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2017/9-d... .
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Zgodovina sprememb…
- spremenilo: konspirator ()
Pac-Man ::
Če želiš premagati ISIS, potrebuješ sile na tleh.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Samuel ::
konspirator je izjavil:
Kaj pove o ZDA metodah ?
Ko postavijo svojo (ilegalno) bazo v Siriji in potem trolajo Ruse (ki so tam na povabilo Sirske vlade) https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2017/9-d... .
Res bi rad videl SAA v Manbiju al pa v Rakki. Assad se lahko Kurdom+ZDA samo zahvali, da so ISIS zdesetkali.
Verjamem da ima PAc-Man ov prispevek nekj z natom. bo ze vedel.. No pa ce gremo skoraj stoletje kasneje, da si ravno nekateri še veno živijo v letu 45 prejšnjega stoletja, imamo članek iz leta 2017. NATO Would Be Totally Outmatched In A Conventional War With Russia Žalostno da Pac-Manove demokracije silijo v Jederski spopad namesto dialoga.
To samo pove, da se je večina NATO sil umaknila iz Evrope in sploh ne ogrožajo Rusije (Putin pač rabi zunanjega sovražnika, tako kot vsak diktator).
If you notice this notice, you will notice that this notice is
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Mr.B ::
konspirator je izjavil:
Kaj pove o ZDA metodah ?
Ko postavijo svojo (ilegalno) bazo v Siriji in potem trolajo Ruse (ki so tam na povabilo Sirske vlade) https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2017/9-d... .
Res bi rad videl SAA v Manbiju al pa v Rakki. Assad se lahko Kurdom+ZDA samo zahvali, da so ISIS zdesetkali.
Verjamem da ima PAc-Man ov prispevek nekj z natom. bo ze vedel.. No pa ce gremo skoraj stoletje kasneje, da si ravno nekateri še veno živijo v letu 45 prejšnjega stoletja, imamo članek iz leta 2017. NATO Would Be Totally Outmatched In A Conventional War With Russia Žalostno da Pac-Manove demokracije silijo v Jederski spopad namesto dialoga.
To samo pove, da se je večina NATO sil umaknila iz Evrope in sploh ne ogrožajo Rusije (Putin pač rabi zunanjega sovražnika, tako kot vsak diktator).
O potem je razumljivo : Is Germany's Military Dying?
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Samuel ::
konspirator je izjavil:
Kaj pove o ZDA metodah ?
Ko postavijo svojo (ilegalno) bazo v Siriji in potem trolajo Ruse (ki so tam na povabilo Sirske vlade) https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2017/9-d... .
Res bi rad videl SAA v Manbiju al pa v Rakki. Assad se lahko Kurdom+ZDA samo zahvali, da so ISIS zdesetkali.
Verjamem da ima PAc-Man ov prispevek nekj z natom. bo ze vedel.. No pa ce gremo skoraj stoletje kasneje, da si ravno nekateri še veno živijo v letu 45 prejšnjega stoletja, imamo članek iz leta 2017. NATO Would Be Totally Outmatched In A Conventional War With Russia Žalostno da Pac-Manove demokracije silijo v Jederski spopad namesto dialoga.
To samo pove, da se je večina NATO sil umaknila iz Evrope in sploh ne ogrožajo Rusije (Putin pač rabi zunanjega sovražnika, tako kot vsak diktator).
O potem je razumljivo : Is Germany's Military Dying?
To si dal super link, kako bi Rusija zgazila NATO v Evropi. Samo problem je v tem, zakaj Putin cvili in se tako boji NATA. Nekaj ne štima. Tisti članek ne štima, namreč.
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Mr.B ::
Ja Samuel, sej jamrate tudi samo sto nije bankrotirala ter kao samo z jederskim orozjem se lahko obranimo ruske invazije. Odlocte se ze za konsistentno nit.
Po drudgi strani se amerikanci vedno bolj odlocajo za AI, ker kot kaze niso sposobni na primer izuriti pomorskakov, kje je premec, al pa uporaba dalnogleda.
Po drudgi strani se amerikanci vedno bolj odlocajo za AI, ker kot kaze niso sposobni na primer izuriti pomorskakov, kje je premec, al pa uporaba dalnogleda.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Samuel ::
Ja Samuel, sej jamrate tudi samo sto nije bankrotirala ter kao samo z jederskim orozjem se lahko obranimo ruske invazije. Odlocte se ze za konsistentno nit.
Po drudgi strani se amerikanci vedno bolj odlocajo za AI, ker kot kaze niso sposobni na primer izuriti pomorskakov, kje je premec, al pa uporaba dalnogleda.
V glavnem, Putin ve, da tistih njegovih 50-100k ta modernih vojakov ter recimo 100 modernih letal ne more narest kaj dost in mu ostane samo to, da malo cvili. Fajn, da vemo.
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Mr.B ::
Ja Samuel, sej jamrate tudi samo sto nije bankrotirala ter kao samo z jederskim orozjem se lahko obranimo ruske invazije. Odlocte se ze za konsistentno nit.
Po drudgi strani se amerikanci vedno bolj odlocajo za AI, ker kot kaze niso sposobni na primer izuriti pomorskakov, kje je premec, al pa uporaba dalnogleda.
V glavnem, Putin ve, da tistih njegovih 50-100k ta modernih vojakov ter recimo 100 modernih letal ne more narest kaj dost in mu ostane samo to, da malo cvili. Fajn, da vemo.
Ja ampak tvoj cvili, da bo teh 100k kmetov znukal.... Odloci se ali so rusi in ruska zeleznina nesposobno, ozirom celo nakazal si da Amerika samo rusofobijo stresa, ker kot pravis so rusi nesposobni. Poglej pod postlo, da za bozicka ne bos ruske babuske dobil.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Pac-Man ::
Ne vem ali so hipsterji resni ali pa gre za zelo meta NSK sceno. Punca je imela zanimiv nasmešek.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Samuel ::
Ja ampak tvoj cvili, da bo teh 100k kmetov znukal.... Odloci se ali so rusi in ruska zeleznina nesposobno, ozirom celo nakazal si da Amerika samo rusofobijo stresa, ker kot pravis so rusi nesposobni. Poglej pod postlo, da za bozicka ne bos ruske babuske dobil.
Alo, konvencionalne vojne med NATO in Rusijo ne bo. To vemo že vsaj 60 let. Rusija je napadla dve sosedni državi v zadnjih 10 letih in si njune dele prisvojila. Države se imajo pravico branit pred napadom.
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Pac-Man ::
Ne pomaga pri dilemi. Marec 2017.
https://globalvoices.org/2017/03/01/rus...
Alexander Donskoi is an entrepreneur who once served as the mayor of Arkhangelsk, until he was arrested for economic crimes and abusing his office. Today, he owns a chain of museums and tourist traps called “The Big Funny Association.” Donskoi is also behind a project to create a new art exhibition in honor of Russia’s president, and he wants to name it “Putin-Superhero.”
Donskoi is trying to crowdfund the startup cash for his exhibition idea on Boomstarter, a Russian clone of the website Kickstarter. He’s asking investors to front him 3 million rubles (about $52,000). If he can collect enough money, he plans to stage the exhibition in Moscow and St. Petersburg, as well as New York City and Berlin.
...
To help draw support, Donskoi has recruited Yulia Dyuzheva, a 21-year-old journalism student at Moscow State University, who stars in the advertisement featured on Boomstarter. Dyuzheva, who’s also a professional photo model and a self-described “patriot,” was voted “Moscow State University’s sexiest fitness babe” last December by the pro-Kremlin tabloid Life.ru.
...
Alexander Donskoi isn’t the likeliest person to dream up a “Putin-Superhero” exhibition. In fact, he announced his intention to run for president in 2008, when Putin stepped down from office.
In February 2007, in an interview with the newspaper Novaya Gazeta, Donskoi said Ilya Klebanov, one of Putin’s official proxies, called him on the telephone and threatened to prosecute him on multiple criminal charges, if he didn’t drop out of the race.
...
He never made it to the ballot, and was immediately targeted in multiple criminal investigations that ultimately cost him his job as mayor.
Na boomstarterju je zbral 200 od željenih 3 000 000 rubljev. Od kje torej dengi?
https://boomstarter.ru/projects/571952/...
https://globalvoices.org/2017/03/01/rus...
Alexander Donskoi is an entrepreneur who once served as the mayor of Arkhangelsk, until he was arrested for economic crimes and abusing his office. Today, he owns a chain of museums and tourist traps called “The Big Funny Association.” Donskoi is also behind a project to create a new art exhibition in honor of Russia’s president, and he wants to name it “Putin-Superhero.”
Donskoi is trying to crowdfund the startup cash for his exhibition idea on Boomstarter, a Russian clone of the website Kickstarter. He’s asking investors to front him 3 million rubles (about $52,000). If he can collect enough money, he plans to stage the exhibition in Moscow and St. Petersburg, as well as New York City and Berlin.
...
To help draw support, Donskoi has recruited Yulia Dyuzheva, a 21-year-old journalism student at Moscow State University, who stars in the advertisement featured on Boomstarter. Dyuzheva, who’s also a professional photo model and a self-described “patriot,” was voted “Moscow State University’s sexiest fitness babe” last December by the pro-Kremlin tabloid Life.ru.
...
Alexander Donskoi isn’t the likeliest person to dream up a “Putin-Superhero” exhibition. In fact, he announced his intention to run for president in 2008, when Putin stepped down from office.
In February 2007, in an interview with the newspaper Novaya Gazeta, Donskoi said Ilya Klebanov, one of Putin’s official proxies, called him on the telephone and threatened to prosecute him on multiple criminal charges, if he didn’t drop out of the race.
...
He never made it to the ballot, and was immediately targeted in multiple criminal investigations that ultimately cost him his job as mayor.
Na boomstarterju je zbral 200 od željenih 3 000 000 rubljev. Od kje torej dengi?
https://boomstarter.ru/projects/571952/...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Zgodovina sprememb…
- spremenilo: Pac-Man ()
Mr.B ::
Ja ampak tvoj cvili, da bo teh 100k kmetov znukal.... Odloci se ali so rusi in ruska zeleznina nesposobno, ozirom celo nakazal si da Amerika samo rusofobijo stresa, ker kot pravis so rusi nesposobni. Poglej pod postlo, da za bozicka ne bos ruske babuske dobil.
Alo, konvencionalne vojne med NATO in Rusijo ne bo. To vemo že vsaj 60 let. Rusija je napadla dve sosedni državi v zadnjih 10 letih in si njune dele prisvojila. Države se imajo pravico branit pred napadom.
Ja no sej za SK tud ni kaj drugace. A bo tam tudi Jedrski spopad med sk in usa .
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Samuel ::
To bo pa odvisno od Severne Koreje. In kaj naj bi bilo tukaj sploh smešnega??!
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nevone ::
ker kot pravis so rusi nesposobni.
Med Rusi je mnogo sposobnih, imajo pa zelo represiven sistem, ker se bojijo samih sebe. Se pravi Putin se "boji", da ga kdo ne izpodrine.
o+ nevone
Either we will eat the Space or Space will eat us.
Mr.B ::
To bo pa odvisno od Severne Koreje. In kaj naj bi bilo tukaj sploh smešnega??!
Ne prov sarkastično je. Ker ZDA za obe državi govori da bo uporaba bombic edini način.Od Rusov že zelooo dolge tega nismo slišali. Ampak ja verjetno eni delajo na reklamu, ker se recimo Nemcem prov poserje kaj si ZDA misli o Rusih. Je zgoj samo še proffesionalnost do drugih EU članic, ki trgujejo z Ameriko.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
nevone ::
Je zgoj samo še proffesionalnost do drugih EU članic, ki trgujejo z Ameriko.
Čemu zgolj? Je mar treba kaj več/drugega?
o+ nevone
Either we will eat the Space or Space will eat us.
Samuel ::
Ne prov sarkastično je. Ker ZDA za obe državi govori da bo uporaba bombic edini način
To ni res. Kje si to prebral za Severno Korejo??
Med Rusi je mnogo sposobnih, imajo pa zelo represiven sistem, ker se bojijo samih sebe. Se pravi Putin se "boji", da ga kdo ne izpodrine.
o+ nevone
Kdo koga v Čečeniji:
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Mr.B ::
Je zgoj samo še proffesionalnost do drugih EU članic, ki trgujejo z Ameriko.
Čemu zgolj? Je mar treba kaj več/drugega?
o+ nevone
Nasledji izvozni partner nemcije zaostaja za ameriko o.6 %. Pa ni kitajska. Zalostno pa je da kljub gori tiskanega denarja in dolga do ostalega sveta ki je nekako velikosti kitajskega gdp-ja, ostaja globoko spodaj kot uvozni partner. Zalostno glede na status leta 2008.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
fikus_ ::
Nemci so ugotovili, da Rusi niso tako grdi, kot jih prikazujejo Američani in začeli razmišljati s svojo glavo. Res pa je, da gre predvsem za gospodarsko sodelovanje.
Že pred Trumpom so zašeli s sloganom "Deutschland zuerst", vendar tega ne trobijo na glas.
Že pred Trumpom so zašeli s sloganom "Deutschland zuerst", vendar tega ne trobijo na glas.
nevone ::
Res pa je, da gre predvsem za gospodarsko sodelovanje.
Kakšno sodelovaje pa še rabimo? Vsa druga so bistveno bolj nagnjena k destrukciji.
o+ nevone
Either we will eat the Space or Space will eat us.
Zgodovina sprememb…
- spremenila: nevone ()
Pac-Man ::
NSA dude, doktor zgodovine:
https://twitter.com/20committee/status/...
"A forgery, a couple groups of hackers & a drip of well-timed leaks were all it took 2 throw US politics in2 chaos"
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar...
I remind: Chekists excel at tactics, esp sneaky, nasty kind, & generally can't find their way out of a paper bag when it comes to strategy.
https://twitter.com/20committee/status/...
"A forgery, a couple groups of hackers & a drip of well-timed leaks were all it took 2 throw US politics in2 chaos"
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar...
The Myth of Vladimir Putin the Puppet Master
Russia's strongman president has many Americans convinced of his manipulative genius. He's really just a gambler who won big.
I remind: Chekists excel at tactics, esp sneaky, nasty kind, & generally can't find their way out of a paper bag when it comes to strategy.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
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