The Elder Scrolls Online

Kot je nekdo napisal na enem forumu bi moralo kar dobro funkcionirat, glede na to, da so Elder Scrolls igre že tako neke vrste "single player MMORPGi".

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread....

-Releasing 2013 for PC/Mac
-Developed by ZeniMax Online Studios
-MMORPG
-250 Person Team
-Started development in 2007
-"This time, saving the world from the awakening of ancient evil is only the beginning. What happens when hundreds or thousands of prophesied heroes all think that they should be Emperor?"
-The game is fully voice acted
-Third person perspective
-The game uses a hotbar to activate skills like other traditional MMOs
-Visually it looks like other Hero Engine MMOs like SWTOR
-The general art style is kind of like RIFT or Everquest 2
-You can't be a werewolf or vampire
-Crafting, alchemy, and soul stones will exist in an unrevealed form
-There will be Daedric Princes like Molag Bal, the primary antagonist, and Vaermina, "whose sphere of influence extends to the dream world and the nightmares of mortals", along with some unnamed others
-Constellations will be in the game a la Mundus stones (which work like guardian stones) and also give the answer to things like block puzzles where you step on the blocks in a certain order
-Tons of towns ranging from Imperial City, Windhelm, Daggerfall, Sentinel, Mournhold, Ebonheart, Elden Root, Shornhelm, Evermore, Riften, and a lot more
-Radiant AI will not be present
-There will be mounts, but no flying mounts
-Fast travel exists in the game in the form of wayshrines, which are also your ressurection point, and you can teleport from one wayshrine to any other wayshrine you have already visited
-There most likely won't be dragons
-Sneaking will be in the game, but how it is implemented is undecided
-They're not talking about pets right now
-There will be no player housing
-There will be no NPC romances or marriage
-"It needs to be comfortable for people who are coming in from a typical massively multiplayer game that has the same control mechanisms, but it also has to appeal to Skyrim players."
-Features most of Tamriel including Skyrim, Morrowind, Summerset Isle, and Elseweyr.
-"Not all provinces are included in their entirety; Zenimax Online is keeping large areas inaccessible to save them for use as expansion content. Nonetheless, every major area is represented to some extent."
-As an example, Windhelm is fully implemented, but Winterhold and the mages' college won't be in at launch.
-There are three player factions:
--Ebonheart Pact: The Nords, Dunmer, and Argoninans
--Aldmeri Dominion: Altmer, Bosmer, and Khajit
--Daggerfall Covenant: Bretons, Redguard, and Orcs
-"Recreateing the freedom Elder Scrolls players expect within the World of Warcraft-style mechanics Zenimax Online is using for this MMO would be impossible without changing the way that players interact with the world."
-As such, the game uses a hubless design
-For example, you don't necessarily pick up a quest to do the following, but if you kill all the necromancers in an undead barrow, a shade you free at the end will reward you.
-However, to help you find these events, various NPCs you talk to will tell you where they are happening and put a marker pointing them on your map, which is obviously totally different than receiving a quest.
-Not all quests will have NPCs that indicate where they are
-The game uses MMORPG genre standards such as classes, experience points, and other traditional MMORPG progression mechanics, but they try to present it "around the core fantasy presented by traditiona Elder Scrolls games" such as traveling around and righting wrongs or seeking riches
-The game world is very large relative to Skyrim
-You can explore almost anything you can see
-the game is set 1000 years in the past
-You can't master every discipline
-The imperials are an enemy to all three factions, lead by the noble Tharn family and the King of Worms, Mannimarco, and are hatching a plot to take over all of Tamriel
-But BEHOLD, Mannicmarco is scheming with Daedric prince Molag Bal to take over the world behind the Tharn's back
-Also, your soul has already been stolen by Molag Bal, which is the reason you can come back from death over and over again, and the starting plot is that you're fighting Molag Bal to get your soul back from him
-Hitting the level cap takes about 120 hours
-Each faction has their own leveling content
-An example quest is the story of Camlorn, where you have to stop evil werewolves who have their eyes set on conquest. First, you have to do a "standard MMO kill and collection quest" to sto ghosts from attacking some mages and soldiers. The ghosts are reliving a battle that the werewolf leader was in. You summon a ghost to find out what's going on, and the ghost tells you to wear her dead husband's armor to re-experience the battle he died in. You then get transported hundreds of years into the past to fight this battle. During this battle, you can choose to save the dead man's wife or to pursue the Werewolf leader. ZeniMax chooses to save the man's wife, who then tells you that the Werewolf leader is weak to fire. This information is helpful when you fight him, but you don't actually need to do this quest before fighting the werewolf leader if you don't want to. Basically, you can skip parts of quest chains if you want, but you get some benefit for playing the whole thing. Also, whenever you go back to the town you just saved, everything there hails you as a hero.
-The game features three faction PvP where you fight to take over keeps and use trebuchets and other siege weapons to help do it. At the high end, you can have 100 v 100 battles. There are also farms and mines you can try to take over. Mots of this happens in Cyrodiil where your goal is to take over and hold the Imperial City to get faction wide bonuses for it. If you have played Dark Age of Camelot, this probably sounds familiar. For those who haven't, essentially the entire zone is a giant PvP area will all sorts of points of interest.
-The most accomplished PvP player on your faction becomes emperor whenever you take over the capital
-When you take over Cyrodiil, you will be able to adventure in it as a hostile city a la Kvatch
-The game will have raids and heroic modes for its dungeons as end game content in addition to faction PvP
-There is also balanced PvP for people who prefer eSports
-The game will also have high end public dungeons
-Public dungeons are essentially instances that aren't actually instanced, so anyone can be in them, so imagine a World of Warcraft dungeon that featured everyone on the server in the area instead of just your party
-There are standard instanced dungeons as well
-Back on the topic of the skillbar, you have a limited number of skills you can use at any given time, and can change them whenever you're out of combat
-The number of skills is equal to (paraphrase) "a light and heavy attack with your current weapon that take up the first two slots, a few more spells related to your class, and an ultimate in the last slot".
-The ultimate is used once you gain enough finesse, which is earned by doing well in combat
-You also get a bonus loot chest if you're soloing and max your finesse, and you can also build finesse by comboing with other players
-For example, a rogue can put oil on the ground that a mage can set on fire
-A fighter can also spin in the firestorm a mage puts down, which sends out fireballs
-If you've seen Guild Wars 2 videos, the above will seem familiar
-You can't combo with the abilities of enemy players though, so if an enemy faction player drops an oil slick, you can't set it on fire
-The Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood will be presented, but in what form isn't detailed as their contnet is hard to recreate in an MMO setting
-NPCs will try to work together and use player like behavior when fighting you, and (at least to my understanding) have stamina as well
-They want the AI to be good, so instead of enemies in a dungeon sitting around and waiting to be pulled, you will be attacked by the entire room and they will try to react to how you are playing
-The claim was not demo'ed to Game Informer
-You destroy dark anchors to gain reputation with the Fighter's Guild. They are large hooks that fall from the sky pseudorandomly and have Daedric guardians next to them. They are easier to kill with a group, and once destroyed, everyone who participated gets a reputation boost with the Fighter's Guild, and eventually nets you rewards like new skills and abilities.
-The combat model will not be real time due to latency
-The combat is based around a stamina bar which you can use to sprint, block, interrupt, and break incapacitating effects
-Blocking is the primary focus of these abilities, and can do things like stopping the secondary effects of attacks such as an ice spell slowing you
-Stamina also applies to PvP, so stamina management (and wearing down your enemy's stamina) is important, as your crowd control abilities might be on a long cooldown, and if you use them before the enemy player runs out of stamina, they will probably just block the effect
-ZeniMax feels that having the stamina bar will help break down the Holy Trinity as stamina allows you to do things like tank
-However, healing is still a big part of the game
-There is also no aggro mechanic in the game, which is part of the reason stamina blocking and healing exist

Outsajder je 4. maj 2012 ob 14:36 izjavil:

Še dobr da ne dela tole bethesda, ker potem bi še dlje čakali fallout 4.

Res je.

Bo "sveta trojica"?

Še cinematic napovednik za beto...

Hja, še vedno se nič ne dogaja. Prijave za Beto se še vedno sprejemajo in število prijavljenih se že bliža milijonu, kar pomeni, da imamo precej malo možnosti, da izberejo ravno nas. Kot kaže se tokrat ne bo razdeljevalo nobenih kjučev, ki jih ponavadi talajo naokoli za povabilo v zaprte beta, ampak izključno samo izbire iz prijav, kjer vsak podpiše pogodbo o nerazkrivanju podatkov pa starejši od 18 let moraš biti.
Nekje v aprilu bi se znala začeti prva zaprta beta testiranja, ki bodo kot kaže potekala po kosih. Izbrali bodo eno skupino, ki bo testirala naprimer samo PvP in nič drugega. Ko bo to končano jih bodo brcnili ven in za testiranje drugega eventa izbrali povsem novo skupino. Kandidatov jim ne bo manjkalo.
Ko bo konec vseh zaprtih testiranj pa bo kot ponavadi na vrsto prišla še odprta beta, ki je bolj igri namenjen testiranju zmogljivosti serverjev, ko naenkrat hoče igrati milijon igralcev. Po moje bo to šele bolj proti koncu leta.

Jaz sem prijavljen in čakam na e-mail
Me pa malo skrbi, da bo vse skupaj preveč PvP usmerjeno. Tudi statistike kažejo, da tri četrine igralcev ne samo da ne marajo PvP, ampak ga celo sovražijo in igre, ki preveč izpostavljajo PvP ponavadi hitro propadejo. Večina iger ima zato posebej PvE in PvP serverje. Kako bo tukaj se še ne ve.

Boš pa na začetku moral izbrati eno izmed 9 ras, ki so razdeljene v 3 skupine po 3 rase.

Aldmeri Dominion
Altmer - Vilinec, najboljši čarovniki. Dom: Summerset Isles
Bosmer - Vilinec, najboljši lokostrelec. Dom: Valenwood
Khajiit - Maček, najboljši tat

Daggerfall Covenant
Orc - Ork, najmočnejša rasa, popolnoma brez magije
Breton - Človek, imajo moč in magijo, primerni tako za bojevnike kot čarovnike. Dom: High Rock
Redguard - Človek, imajo veliko moč, dobri bojevniki. Dom: Hammerfell

Ebonheart Pact
Dunmer - Temni Vilinec, zelo močni in zelo pametni, odlični bojevniki ali čarovniki. Dom: Morrowind
Nord - Človek, močni skoraj kot Orki in najboljši bojevniki. Dom: Skyrim
Argonian - Kuščar, šibki ampak najbolj gibčni in spretni, odlični tatovi in tudi dobri čarovniki. Dom: Black Marsh

Ko boš izbral raso, pa bo potrebno izbrati še poklic, kot naprimer čarovnik, bojevnik, templar, tat, ...

Vsi ki so iste rase kot ti oziroma iz tistih dveh prijateljskih ras iz iste skupine bodo tvoji prijatelji oziroma soborci. Vseh ostalih 6 ras bodo tvoji smrtni sovražniki.
Vsaka skupina začne na svojem koncu velikanskega zemljevida in bolj kot boš napredoval proti sredini dežele, več sovražnih igralcev boš srečeval. Osrednji del dežele bo kot kaže popolna vojna, kjer bo vedno 2/3 vseh igralcev tvojih sovražnikov, kar meni ne daje dobrega občutka. PvP bo možen samo v tem osrednjem delu dežele, ampak to PvP območje je menda 9-krat večje kot največje začetno območje.
PvP bo možen od level 10 naprej.

Zelo se trudijo in zagotavljajo, da tokrat, verjetno prvič v MMORPG, ne bo potrebe po "sveti trojici" (en Tank, en Healer in en DPS), ampak bo tokrat moral prav vsak poskrbeti sam zase, saj bo v boju menda najbolj pomembna Stamina, kar naj bi odpravilo potrebo po Tankih in Zdravilcih. Vsak bo moral zase skrbeti, da ne bo sredi boja ostal brez stamine, tako da ti Healer ne bo mogel prav nič pomagati, ker ti nihče ne bo mogel dati Stamine.
Tanki pa odpadejo, ker v igri tokrat sploh ne bo "Aggrota", ki je bil glavna stvar v vsakem dosedanjem MMORPG-ju. Če ni Aggrota, potem tudi ni Tanka, katerega glavna naloga vedno je bila da prevzame Aggro od vseh sovražnikov nase. In ker ni Aggro, tudi Crowd Control skillov menda ni v igri.
Kar pa se tiče PvE pa je bilo rečeno, da se bo dalo vse queste opraviti solo, če boš tako želel.

Izi je 12. mar 2013 ob 16:14 izjavil:

Boš pa na začetku moral izbrati eno izmed 9 ras, ki so razdeljene v 3 skupine po 3 rase.

Aldmeri Dominion
Altmer - Vilinec, najboljši čarovniki. Dom: Summerset Isles
Bosmer - Vilinec, najboljši lokostrelec. Dom: Valenwood
Khajiit - Maček, najboljši tat

Daggerfall Covenant
Orc - Ork, najmočnejša rasa, popolnoma brez magije
Breton - Človek, imajo moč in magijo, primerni tako za bojevnike kot čarovnike. Dom: High Rock
Redguard - Človek, imajo veliko moč, dobri bojevniki. Dom: Hammerfell

Ebonheart Pact
Dunmer - Temni Vilinec, zelo močni in zelo pametni, odlični bojevniki ali čarovniki. Dom: Morrowind
Nord - Človek, močni skoraj kot Orki in najboljši bojevniki. Dom: Skyrim
Argonian - Kuščar, šibki ampak najbolj gibčni in spretni, odlični tatovi in tudi dobri čarovniki. Dom: Black Marsh

Ko boš izbral raso, pa bo potrebno izbrati še poklic, kot naprimer čarovnik, bojevnik, templar, tat, ...

Katera rasa pa poklic je tist model z lokom pa dagerji v zadnjem CGI trailerju?

yoco je 12. mar 2013 ob 16:39 izjavil:

Katera rasa pa poklic je tist model z lokom pa dagerji v zadnjem CGI trailerju?

Pomoje je Breton, ki je verjetno najbolj vsestranski, ampak če bi se jaz hotel specializirati na lokostrelca potem bi raje izbral Bosmerja.

Zanimivo je še omeniti, da izdelovalci trdijo, da bo lahko NAENKRAT na PvP območju 2000 ljudi na istem kanalu. In da bo motor igre menda zmožen NAENKRAT na našem ekranu izrisovati do 200 igralcev hkrati. To bo mesarsko klanje.

Tole bo pa skoraj gotovo free to play.

eh za te mmoje se vedno tako napihuje v smislu kaj vse bo špil omogočal, kako ogormen in zanimiv bo, na koncu pa je gameplay en totalen poden (in je vsak povprečen singleplayer špil boljši). Več kot obljubljajo slabše izpade na koncu, zato pa večina mmojev propade ali pa životari.

naročniške igre pa od 5 let do 10 let.

No ja.. .tale je malo mimo se ti ne zdi? V to kategorijo spadata WoW in pa EVE, pol pa je počasi konec. Ostale pa gredo iz plačniškega na free po pol leta.

Conan, LOTR, Star trek, rift, warhammer, tabula rasa, aion, vanguard.. pa še kakšna

EVE sicer ti omogoča nabavo gametime z ingame denarjem

(Y) @vorantz. Sem včeraj igral 3 ure brez predaha, kar je svojevrsten dosežek glede na to, da mi pri igrah pade koncentracija že po 50 minutah.

S tem, ko sem napisal, da bo F2P sem mislil to, da bo igra tako nahypeana, da bo po začetnem navalu št. igralcev upadlo in bo tako free2play (v najslabšem primeru pay2win) vse, kar se bo izčmižilo.

Kar nekaj mmojev živi bolje od F2P (p2w) kot pa so prej od P2P.

Eh, ta bo tut subscription imela! Disappointed!

Upam, da jih doleti usoda SWTOR in gredo po manj kot enem letu F2P

Greedy basterds!

Upam, da jih doleti usoda SWTOR in gredo po manj kot enem letu F2P

in pol odpreš špil in ti za vsako malenkost javlja da imaš omejen account in je ne moreš koristit.. ta free 2 play je nateg, sam lepše se sliši kot DEMO ali pa TRIAL račun.

Itak da je f2p prihodnost, samo eni založniki izkoriščajo pomen besede ter vsiljujejo noter neke limite ter p2w metode.

Sem pozabil omenit da se izogibam p2w igram kot so SWTOR (inštaliral ampak se ne zažene, verjetno še bolje). Meni je trenutno najboljša f2p StarTrek online, kjer samo z grind+om in team work dobiš najboljšo opremo. So pa neke ladje za denar ampak so enake po sposobnostih, kot tiste ki jih dobiš free, se mi zdi da so free boljše.

blackbfm je 1. sep 2013 ob 14:46 izjavil:

Upam, da jih doleti usoda SWTOR in gredo po manj kot enem letu F2P

in pol odpreš špil in ti za vsako malenkost javlja da imaš omejen account in je ne moreš koristit.. ta free 2 play je nateg, sam lepše se sliši kot DEMO ali pa TRIAL račun.

Nope, to je p2w, kar omenjaš ti. Je pa res, da se na splošno ne zna razlikovati med tema dvema pojmoma.

SWTOR ima svojo temo!
SWTOR je RPG, ki temelji na zgodbi (vsak klass ima svojo unikatno zgodbo) in ta ni prav nič omejena tudi za zastonjkarje (razen razširitve, ki je plačljiva).

TESO pa je bolj klasičen RPG, kjer zgodba ne bo toliko v ospredju ampak bojevanje tako z raznovrstnimi pošastmi, kot s soigralci, kjer bo 2/3 vseh soigralcev vedno tvojih sovražnikov.
Bistvo bo vojna treh sovražnih strani. Pridružil se boš eni strani in se boril proti ostalima dvema.

Za beta testiranje se je prijavilo že preko 3 milijone ljudi. Do sedaj so podelili okoli 20.000 povabil na beto.

Bojevanje je pravzaprav enako kot v TES5 Skyrim. Se pravi imamo sredi ekrana "merek", s katerim merimo v sovražnike. Če merek ni točno na sovražniku boš zgrešil. Lahko boš igral prvoosebno, kar bo lažje ali tretjeosebno kjer boš lahko občudoval svoje virtualno telesce med bojevanjem.
In enako kot v Skyrimu rase niso nič omejene s poklicem. Ne glede katero raso boš izbral boš lahko nadgrajeval magijo, fizično bojevanje ali pa tatinske spretnosti, kot so tiholazenje ali celo nevidnost.
Povedali so, da boš lahko postal neviden, seveda bo verjetno precej časovno omejeno. Bo pa vedno možno, da te sovražnik kljub temu odkrije, bo pa verjetno potreboval določene skille, ki bodo določili, kako hitro opaziš nevidnega sovraga, ki se plazi proti tebi.
"Conjuring" bo tudi možen. Se pravi lahko se boš naučil pričarati na primer ognjenega Atronacha, ki ti bo pomagal v boju. Tole se mi zdi še posebej zanimivo. Moj junak se bo tega vsekakor priučil
Oblekel boš lahko katerokoli obleko (magično, lahko ali težko) in si oprtal katerokoli orožje. Seveda pa se boš potem specializiral za neko vrsto obleke, orožja ali magije.

Zanimivo je, da bodo precej nagrajevali raziskovanje velikanskega ozemlja. Naokoli po ozemlju bodo na skritih mestih posejani "skyshards". Ko boš našel 3 se bodo združili in z njim boš lahko nadgradil en skill.
Skyshardsi se bodo v neskončnost naključno pojavljala na raznih skritih lokacijah po zemljevidu. Ponavadi skriti za kakšno skalo kamor običajno ne bi nikoli pogledal. Kar pomeni, da boš lahko s precej raziskovanja in potrpežljivosti (verjetno večletne ), nekoč do konca nadgradil prav vse skille v igri in postal ultimativni bad ass. Omejitev torej skoraj ne bo nobenih in po večletnem igranju boš verjetno lahko postal bogovsko močan.
To je kar se tiče skillov. Bodo pa tudi normalni leveli, kjer boš tako kot v Skyrimu na vsak level vložil točko v eno izmed treh možnosti in povečal Magico (Mano), Zdravje ali Stamino (zdržljivost). ampak kot rečeno, brez raziskovanja ne boš imel novih skillov.

Izi je 2. sep 2013 ob 12:01 izjavil:

Zanimivo je, da bodo precej nagrajevali raziskovanje velikanskega ozemlja. Naokoli po ozemlju bodo na skritih mestih posejani "skyshards". Ko boš našel 3 se bodo združili in z njim boš lahko nadgradil en skill.

Tole je super novica za mene, ki rad raziščem vsak kotiček mape

http://teso.ophelia-core.com/
http://www.ownedcore.com/forums/mmo/eld...

Se že dela private server, pa tudi beta client se da že z internetov dol potegnit.