Nizozemska zasegla kitajsko tovarno čipov

Nisem bral vse solate...
Kot da se ni dovolj da se je EU odrekla poceni energiji (plin, JE,....) , po zasegu RU premoženja sedaj še Kitajsko,...
To je opozorilo ne EU firmam , ne vlaga5 v EU proizvodnjo, ne vlagat v EU finance, ne hodite blizu, .. . vam bomo zasegli, zamrznili, .... vaše premoženje.
Ali ni dovolj, da EU propada, je potrebno to se pospešiti. Politične elite živijo v svojem svetu, gredo se politikantstvo, pametujejo ne našim,.... za gospodarstvo pa ne skrbijo, nimajo gospodarske strategije.

Chalky je 17. okt 2025 ob 18:22:55 izjavil:

$50 Billion SEIZED From China - Netherlands Just CRUSHED CCP Economy


Naslov je definitivno click bait, ampak v posnetku razloži podrobnosti celotne situacije.

video naslov: S 50 milijardami usd je NL zrušila Kitajsko gospodarstvo... daj nehat uživati prepovedane substance.

Nexperia as 40% of the auto chip market. But while Nexperia's corporate headquarters and many factories are in the Netherlands, Nexperia also has numerous factories in China. In fact 80% of Nexperia's products are made in China. China has frozen the shipping of those products out of China. So we now see headlines that automakers in Europe are in a panic because they may not get the chips they need to finish assembly of autos. They will run out of stock in a couple of weeks. Netherlands have crushed European automakers.

Great success ! Borat meme here



Kdaj bomo zasegli zda podjetja v Evropi ? Tam je šele nevarnost za nacionalno varnost držav.

Imas prav, je bolje da jih Rusi prodajajo USA, mi jih pa nato se drazje kupimo od njih...win win

Stisnejo lahko samo oni nas, mi njim nic ne moremo, EU vodijo prodani bebci, smo ze fejst stisnjeni ce se nisi opazu

"Kitajce je potrebno stisniti in zahtevati partnerstvo domačih firm kot to pogojujejo sami"
Do tod vse lepo in prav, EU naj pripravi ustrezno zakonodajo, potem pa čakajmo, da bodo Kitajska podjetja navalila ......, aja, ne bodo, ker se hitreje učijo kot EU politiki, ki gledajo kratkoročno, nepremišljene sankcije, zaseg premozenja, zaseg firm,...

boolsheat je 18. okt 2025 ob 08:34:59 izjavil:

Pivovarna Laško je preveč pod nizozemskim vplivom.

Gre za strateško pijačo!! Ne samo za Slo!
Naši in evropski politiki pa nič!!
Ne vem, kdaj, če sploh kdaj, so bo narod prebudil!??
Ko bo zmamjkal pira!? Pa bodo spet izbruhnili nemiri in se bodo župani in vlade majale! In s kom ali čem bodo v takih primerih gasili požar!?? Z Božičnico? :))

FireSnake je 17. okt 2025 ob 12:15:51 izjavil:

Viri iz podjetja so trdili, da je podjetje postalo v celoti kitajsko tudi po razmišljanju in poslovanju.

Prosim?

V prevodu: hebeš zakonodajo, hvatamo krivine, iztiskamo dobiček, kjer se da, izsiljujemo dobavitelje, se sprenevedamo pri dogovorih etc. The usual Chinese stuff.

Miki N je 17. okt 2025 ob 12:19:42 izjavil:

Ej samo to pa ni slaba ideja, najprej jim prodaš fabrko, potem pa jo vzameš nazaj. Profit! Zakaj si nisem jaz tega spomnil.

Nekdo ni bral novice, le komentarje, it seems.

Kje in kako točno so Nizozemci "fabrko vzeli nazaj"?

Zimonem je 17. okt 2025 ob 12:24:54 izjavil:

Bobinaca nazaj na čelo highsense gorenje. Vsaj to lahko pričakujemo od prosvetljene vlade.

To bi bila najboljša odločitev vseh časov. Atomska bomba za šaleško dolino, pa bogami i mnogo, mnogo šire. Že tako si je Gorenje tik pred stečajem izposojal denar za plače. Hisense je dobesedno rešil Bobija in Žigca, tanartabolša menežerja u Sloveniji de - tukoj za šerifom, jasno.

Folku nikoli ne bo jasno, kako so naši pajdaški kapitalisti pod kontrolo malega iz Murgel zavozili mnoga državna podjetja.

Kitajci bodo lahko kupili še več EU izgubarskih firm, cela EU gre s sedanji vodilno politično garnituro na kant.
Prva na udaru naslednje leto bo avtomobilska industrija in v ozadju zgubarski Stelantis. Zelo verjetno bodo naslednje leto na prodaj znamke Jaguar, Maserati, Alfa,.... ki delajo veliko izgubo in zelo majhna prodaja.
Ali bodo Kitajci zainteresirani to kupiti?! Verjetno ne.

gozdar1 je 17. okt 2025 ob 11:14:43 izjavil:

Dejansko bi morala eu smao slediti kitajskim praksam, torej vsaka kitajska investicija mora imeti tudi domače lastništvo.

Da samo bi pričakoval, da to ne delaš za obstoječe pogodbe. A ni nekako smešno od Eu Rusophrenije, ko potem govoriš o kolonializmu in imperializmu.

gozdar1 je 17. okt 2025 ob 11:42:45 izjavil:

Koako nekateri skrbi za kitajske interese, kitajska zraven že desetletja krade intelektualno lastnino,..

Da sej EU miga v tej smeri... V končni fazi so zmagali na WTO proti kitajski. V nasprotnem primeru pa EU seveda kar skoči ko ji njen gospodar iz Amerike reče da mora.

Ahahaahahaahahahahahahaha

Apparently ASML DUV machines that China has to make their chips recently broke down. They called the Dutch company for help repairing it. ASML sent some techs. They discovered that the Chinese broke the machine when they disassembled it and tried to put it back together. 1/

2/ The reason Chinese techs disassembled their older ASML DUV machine is because they are desperately trying to evade the US sanctions imposed upon them for the newest ASML-type machines. By disassembling their older one & trying to reassemble it, Chinese techs learn.

3/ They are trying to reverse-engineer what they have as a means of figuring out how to indigenously build their own, more advanced versions, to end-run the US sanctioned machines. But they can't figure it out, apparently.

4/ I've no idea if ASML followed through and repaired the system. While China has an agreement with the Dutch firm for repair, I can't imagine the contract would be honored considering foul play on the part of the customer (China) was involved in the machine's breakdown.

5/ China does many things right. That's what makes them a real challenger unlike anything we've had probably since Hitler's Germany. BUT they're still human. And this may have jacked up their entire scheme to end-run the Western sanctions.

6/ Beijing is growing more desperate. Indeed, we know that their economy is slowing down (this DOES NOT mean "China is collapsing." It just means the gov there is hitting some unintended brick walls, making them more dangerous). Xi's rule has been tenuous since COVID.

7/ The tech curbs are doing more damage than previously anticipated. All this leads to the likelihood that China will seek to exert control in a military domain if they cannot in the economic and/or technical ones.

8/ Something else to consider: this means that their Rare Earth Mineral play is their big move. Which means that if the Trump team can overcome it (thus far, they can't), it's going to force a more kinetic retaliation from Beijing sooner than expected.

https://x.com/WeTheBrandon/status/19797...

Kot kaže so Kitajci rastavili ASML stroj da bi lahko pregledali vse komponente ki bi jih potem kopirali. Povsem enako kot s Comac letali. Jaz res ne razumem zakaj ASML sploh prodaja te stroje na Kitajsko. Zdaj Kitajci prosijo Nizozemce da popravijo stroj, ker naj bi ga sami uničili. Kdaj bo Zahod razumel da ima Kitajska samo en cilj in sicer kako čim hitreje uničiti Zahod. Enako CEO NVIDIE Jensen, neprestano tarni da NVIDIA nebi smela zapustiti kitajskega trga, ker bo drugače Kitajska začela proizvajati in izdelovati svoje čipe in grafične, kot da tega ne bodo oziroma nebi počeli tudi če bi imeli NVIDIA čipe, kot da to avtomatsko pomeni da če bodo prejemali NVIDIA čipe, da potem svojih ne bodo proizvajali. Kdo je tako neumen? Kitajska bo pač v tem času ko prejema NVIDIA čipe, delala tudi na svojih, ne razumem tega Jensena.

Če Kitajska začne sama proizvajati ASML stroje in 2nm čipe jim lahko samo čestitamo in bi bil prvi ki bi to storil. Če so to sposobni storiti sami brez kraje in kopiranja potem si zaslužijo pohvale in se Zahod pri tem nima kaj pritoževati. Ne pa da jim Zahod drži pištolo ki je usmerjena v našo glavo, in je samo vprašanje kdaj bodo pritisnili na sprožilec.

Chalky je danes ob 11:42:39 izjavil:

Apparently ASML DUV machines that China has to make their chips recently broke down. They called the Dutch company for help repairing it. ASML sent some techs. They discovered that the Chinese broke the machine when they disassembled it and tried to put it back together. 1/

2/ The reason Chinese techs disassembled their older ASML DUV machine is because they are desperately trying to evade the US sanctions imposed upon them for the newest ASML-type machines. By disassembling their older one & trying to reassemble it, Chinese techs learn.

3/ They are trying to reverse-engineer what they have as a means of figuring out how to indigenously build their own, more advanced versions, to end-run the US sanctioned machines. But they can't figure it out, apparently.

4/ I've no idea if ASML followed through and repaired the system. While China has an agreement with the Dutch firm for repair, I can't imagine the contract would be honored considering foul play on the part of the customer (China) was involved in the machine's breakdown.

5/ China does many things right. That's what makes them a real challenger unlike anything we've had probably since Hitler's Germany. BUT they're still human. And this may have jacked up their entire scheme to end-run the Western sanctions.

6/ Beijing is growing more desperate. Indeed, we know that their economy is slowing down (this DOES NOT mean "China is collapsing." It just means the gov there is hitting some unintended brick walls, making them more dangerous). Xi's rule has been tenuous since COVID.

7/ The tech curbs are doing more damage than previously anticipated. All this leads to the likelihood that China will seek to exert control in a military domain if they cannot in the economic and/or technical ones.

8/ Something else to consider: this means that their Rare Earth Mineral play is their big move. Which means that if the Trump team can overcome it (thus far, they can't), it's going to force a more kinetic retaliation from Beijing sooner than expected.

https://x.com/WeTheBrandon/status/19797...

Kot kaže so Kitajci rastavili ASML stroj da bi lahko pregledali vse komponente ki bi jih potem kopirali. Povsem enako kot s Comac letali. Jaz res ne razumem zakaj ASML sploh prodaja te stroje na Kitajsko. Zdaj Kitajci prosijo Nizozemce da popravijo stroj, ker naj bi ga sami uničili. Kdaj bo Zahod razumel da ima Kitajska samo en cilj in sicer kako čim hitreje uničiti Zahod. Enako CEO NVIDIE Jensen, neprestano tarni da NVIDIA nebi smela zapustiti kitajskega trga, ker bo drugače Kitajska začela proizvajati in izdelovati svoje čipe in grafične, kot da tega ne bodo oziroma nebi počeli tudi če bi imeli NVIDIA čipe, kot da to avtomatsko pomeni da če bodo prejemali NVIDIA čipe, da potem svojih ne bodo proizvajali. Kdo je tako neumen? Kitajska bo pač v tem času ko prejema NVIDIA čipe, delala tudi na svojih, ne razumem tega Jensena.

Če Kitajska začne sama proizvajati ASML stroje in 2nm čipe jim lahko samo čestitamo in bi bil prvi ki bi to storil. Če so to sposobni storiti sami brez kraje in kopiranja potem si zaslužijo pohvale in se Zahod pri tem nima kaj pritoževati. Ne pa da jim Zahod drži pištolo ki je usmerjena v našo glavo, in je samo vprašanje kdaj bodo pritisnili na sprožilec.

Kod vedno, Chalik , zelo poceni se prodajaš. Izrelci plačujejo konkretno na objave, ne pa to kar ti sestavljaš skupaj..

Vsakemu ki spremlja ASML ve da je glavni problem vir svetlobe, no fotonov, ki ga dela Amerika za ASML. Zato pa vir ne doda
China's Failed Attempt to Reverse Engineer ASML's Top-Tier Fab Machines.

Razen zadnjih dveh generacij, ki jih tako ne smejo dobavljat....
ASML is restricting support for China, particularly for its most advanced chip-making tools, due to pressure from the U.S. government and Dutch export controls. While ASML can still service some older equipment and continue sales of less advanced machinery, it is no longer able to provide maintenance or spare parts for its most sophisticated systems in China. This situation, which took effect after licenses expired at the end of 2023/2024, is impacting ASML's business and China's ability to produce advanced chips


Namignem... Od kje črpaš bedarije
According to Reuters, ASML warned of a sharp decline in demand from China in 2026, even as its third-quarter bookings exceeded market expectations. The report, citing CEO Christophe Fouquet, noted that while ASML does not expect its overall 2026 net sales to fall below 2025 levels, it foresees a significant drop in sales from China. Fouquet added that more details on the 2026 outlook will be shared in January.
As highlighted by Bloomberg, ASML reported that China accounted for 42% of its total net sales in the third quarter, up from 27% in the previous quarter, making it the company’s largest market during the period.

Še drugi vir, na temo 2nm
While TSMC is on schedule to commence 2nm wafer production by the end of 2025, it is simultaneously advancing its manufacturing roadmap. According to a report by Commercial Times, the company plans to break ground on its 1.4nm fabrication plant in Taichung by the end of this year. The established manufacturing timeline targets the second half of 2028 for the start of mass production. The A14 process is expected to provide a reduction in power consumption of up to 30 percent compared to previous nodes.
The decision not to acquire ASML’s High-NA EUV equipment was noted by analyst Dan Nystedt, who attributed the choice to the high cost of the machinery, which is priced at around $400 million per unit. TSMC has previously indicated that its existing hardware is capable of mass-producing 1.4nm wafers. The company will instead rely on its current generation of EUV tools combined with advanced patterning methods to achieve the desired feature sizes.



PS: Kako kaj z F35, vse kar sem napsial, se dogaja ...