SUSE 8.1

Hotel sem posnet SUSE 8.1 in sem šel na www.linuxiso.org in opazil sem, da tu je samo 1 CD kaj nima SUSE 8.1 ene 7 CD-jev?

Pa jst sem mislu da so liniux distribucije zastonj. Kolk pa stane ta zadeva?

Kako misliš lahk inštaliram tud prek mreže? prek interneta al prek mreže? Če dobim pol prek ftp-ja zakaj pol ni tistih 7 cd-jev na www.linux.iso.org?

Jest sem si z eMulo dol snel, za namestitv sem pa samo 1, 2 in 4 cd potreboval.

jst iščem pa nikjer ne najdem

Kaj personal je sestavljen iz tistih 7-ih CD-jih, kao prve tri CD-ji al je čist drugo?

Kaj je res to da to lahko tud na njihovem serverju potegneš te CD-je kot je rekel CaqKa?

Aspirinix: pol je kaka druga internetna stran? Ker jaz sem iskal pa nisem našel kje bi lahko dobil teh 3 al 7 CD-jev.

borchi:
Do zdaj noben mi ni rekel da se ne da dobit kakem serveju. Ti si prvi. ki si mi rekel in zdaj sem vesel, tako da mi ne rabi več iskat po internetnih straneh.

kje si ti vido da sem jaz napiso da se da isote iz neta dol pobrat? iz njihovega sajta lahko paketke dol pobiraš. pa ftp inštalacijo lahko narediš. verjetno pa nebi bila ilegalna stvar če bi bili filei nekje na nekem serveru glede na to da si lahko cdje presnemavaš.
sicer se pa v gpl nisem nikoli kaj poglabljal, oziroma o njem vem le to da lahko program ki je pod to licenco modificiraš če daš source ostalim, torej javnosti na dosego roke. kolko za tak modificiran program hočeš imet denarja je pa tvoja stvar.

Freedom Prevails

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če si iz mb se oglasi pri meni... lahko tudi na privatnem sporočilu.

če se ne motim je tole warez.

apeliram na to da so fajli od suseja zararani.

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če bi se slike suse cdjev dalo dobit kar tako bi verjetno bile narete povezave do njih iz www.linuxiso.org

joj nea nas ob živce spravlaj.. kaj se folk na forumu menijo in kako politiko imajo na njihovem forumu je druga stvar tukaj pa se kolko vem ne tolerira warez in če suse nima slik na svojem ftpju so tele ilegalne konece debate... zakaj so ilegalne pa bo že kdo drug razložil.
na osnovnem linuxiso pejđu ni linka do njih in basta!

webblod, tukaj moramo upoštevat pogoje, ki jih določa SuSE.

In če je na teh CDjih 99% stvari "popolnoma free", tisti 1 % še vedno obstaja.

Žal.

Naj folk sam poišče link na linuxiso :).

Pa to ljudem kar ni in ni jasno...

Suse je naredil CD-je. In teh CD-jev (layouta datotek na ISO 9660 filesystemu) ne smes kopirat. Layout je copyrightan (ce kdo ne razume), poleg tega je gor verjetno tudi nekaj programov, ki se jih ne sme redistribuirat. Tole foro z layoutom so pa Susejevci pobrali od OpenBSD-ja, pri katerih uradnih CD-jev ne smes kopirat ze kar lep cas.

Lahko pa seveda komot skopiras s CD-ja datoteke, ki te zanimajo (in s katerimi to lahko naredis) ter si naredis svoj image.

Samo je vprasanje kako bo potem delal installer, ce sploh.

Mogoce pa Suse le ni tako strasno uporabniku prijazna distribucija, kot se zdi? :-)

lp,
Borut.

EuroTeh pa Agenda prodajata v Sloveniji.

- SuSE 8.1 Professional (www.suse.com) (30.09.2002)
- 7 CDjev (inst.+source) - 2.800 sit
- 5 CDjev (inst.) - 2.300 sit

Na Slo-Tech Forumu... Brez kakršnih koli moderacij... Mene ste seveda pribili na križ, ta zadeva pa je vidna ... klik

Seveda se bo spet vse skupaj izteklo v sprenevedanju adminov... Nekateri ste pač bolj papeški od Papeža.

webblod: dej se mal umir. ta oglas je moj in z admini nimam nikakršne veze, če na to namiguješ.

če so cenzurirali oglas, je to njihova pravica! če lahko js brez pripomb to sprejmem pol se tut teb ni treba razpočit.

ziggga pač moderira malo po svoje. večkrat ukrepa preden vklopi možgane. tako mamo potem situacije, da v threadih ponuja folku suse 8.0 in 8.1, potem se spomne, da ti petega cdja ne ponuja, vmes pobriše linke do suse iso-tov, linka do svojega emaila, kjer ga lahko kontaktiraš za suse pač ne... malo potečnari in zaklene temo o kopiranju s clonecd-jem, ki nima veze z warez-om, itd.

AMPAK, to je njegova pravica in če tega ne sprejmeš in te to tako moti pojdi na kak drug forum. poleg tega ga ponavadi na koncu sreča pamet in obvelja takšna, da se vsaj približno strinjajo vsi udeleženi v debato. tudi tokrat je reku, da bo kontaktiral ostale, ki imajo kaj besede v tem forumu in se bojo verjetno zmenli kako in kaj glede tega in se bojo tega držali tudi v bodoče.

torej oglas ni bil sporen?
pa to pri suseju je res malo nadležno.. sicer pa če že kdo rabi se lahko tui preko zasebnih pomenite.

Linux SuSE 8.1 kernel 2.4.19 ima 5 CDjev

hayrek?
suse obstaja v personal in pro verziji... mogoče še v kateri drugi.
pro je na 7 cdjih... perosnal pa menda na 3eh...

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