Izrael mora uničiti Islam, drugače bo Islam uničil Izrael

Za začetek si preberi knjigo Za-mera človeka od Stephena J. Goulda.

Ta človek je bedak. Njegova "evolucija" je pravljica za otroke. Resni evolucionisti Goulda živega ne prenesejo.

aha, potem je nekakšen protirasist? Oprosti, samo potem verjamem šolskemu sistemu(naj bi bil bolj nevtralen) raje kot temu.

Rasna diskriminacija je, da ljudi drugače obravnavaš glede na njihovo raso. To je tisti grdi rasizem. Neosnovana dedukcija, s predsodki.

Če pa narediš indukcijo s pomočjo metodološko korektnih rezultatov - potem je to prava znanost.

Jaz nisem neki rasist, samo mi ne gre v glavo uspešnost azijskih priseljencev v Evropo in ZDA v nasprotju s črnimi priseljenci oz. celo domačini.

Mogoče so razlog odsotnost družine med črnim prebivalstvom zaradi liberalne politike in kulture, ki podpira, da otroke vzgajajo samohranilke.

But as long as the Times has such a burning interest in the root causes of murder, how about considering the one factor more likely to create a murderer than any other? That is the topic we're not allowed to discuss: single motherhood.

As I describe in my new book, "Guilty: Liberal 'Victims' and Their Assault on America," controlling for socioeconomic status, race and place of residence, the strongest predictor of whether a person will end up in prison is that he was raised by a single parent. (The second strongest factor is owning a Dennis Kucinich bumper sticker.)

By 1996, 70 percent of inmates in state juvenile detention centers serving long-term sentences were raised by single mothers. Seventy percent of teenage births, dropouts, suicides, runaways, juvenile delinquents and child murderers involve children raised by single mothers. Girls raised without fathers are more sexually promiscuous and more likely to end up divorced.

A 1990 study by the left-wing Progressive Policy Institute showed that, after controlling for single motherhood, the difference in black and white crime disappeared.

Various studies come up with slightly different numbers, but all the figures are grim. A study cited in the far left-wing Village Voice found that children brought up in single-mother homes "are five times more likely to commit suicide, nine times more likely to drop out of high school, 10 times more likely to abuse chemical substances, 14 times more likely to commit rape (for the boys), 20 times more likely to end up in prison, and 32 times more likely to run away from home."

With new children being born, running away, dropping out of high school and committing murder every year, it's not a static problem to analyze. But however the numbers are run, single motherhood is a societal nuclear bomb.

Many of these studies, for example, are from the '90s, when the percentage of teenagers raised by single parents was lower than it is today. In 1990, 28 percent of children under 18 were being raised in one-parent homes -- mother or father, divorced or never-married. By 2005, more than one-third of all babies born in the U.S. were illegitimate.

That's a lot of social problems in the pipeline.

Think I'm being cruel? Imagine an America with 60 to 70 percent fewer juvenile delinquents, teenage births, teenage suicides and runaways, and you will appreciate what the sainted "single mothers" have accomplished.

Even in liberals' fevered nightmares, predatory mortgage dealers, oil speculators and Ken Lay could never do as much harm to their fellow human beings as single mothers do to their own children, to say nothing of society at large.

But the Times won't run that series because liberals adore single motherhood and the dissolution of traditional marriage in America. They detest the military, so they cite a few anecdotal examples of veterans who have committed murder and hope that no one asks for details.

http://www.anncoulter.com/

kako si lahko napačno razlagaš rezultate? povprečje obeh ras in to je to?

Vidim, da ti te zadeve niso čisto nič jasne. Ti si recimo razlagaš, da je razlika zaradi rase, v resnici pa je morda zaradi izobrazbe in/ali dohodka staršev. Če bi primerjali belce in črnce z enako izobraženimi ali premožnimi starši, bi ugotovili, da ni nobene razlike. Različnih vplivov je še veliko (recimo pritisk vrstnikov - v šoli odlične črne učence črni sošolci zmerjajo z belčki in marsikdo se zaradi tega zanalašč ne uči in trudi v šoli) in ko vse izenačiš, ugotoviš, da vzrok za razliko v IQ ni rasa.

Poleg tega je že sam IQ v bistvu zgrešen koncept, ker z njim v resnici ne merijo pameti ali inteligence, ampak le spretnost v reševanju testov IQ.

O.

A potem imajo starši tako velik vpliv? Četudi, potem črni sami sebe zavirajo pri napredku? Tudi za spretnost pri reševanju IQ testa je potrebno nekaj inteligence/spretnosti več?
Še nekaj, pri tistemu grafu, ki sem ga nalimal imaš spodaj SES status...za črne in bele...

Četudi, potem črni sami sebe zavirajo pri napredku?

Ne, ampak so jih zavirali belci, ki staršem in starim staršem sedanjih generacij niso omogočili enakopravno dobrega šolanja. Takšne stvari se vlečejo in jih ni mogoče kar v eni generaciji odpraviti.
Ampak, kot rečeno, najprej si preberi tisto knjigo, saj ni težka za razumevanje.
O.

Ja, ampak današnje generacije imajo vse možnosti za izobrazbo, pa jih ne skoristijo. Kaj ima na to vpliv stari starš?

Ampak, kot rečeno, najprej si preberi tisto knjigo, saj ni težka za razumevanje.

hahah, poglej, kakšno podcenjevanje. O drugače mislečih pa nimaš ravno najboljšega mnenja kaj?

Kaj ima na to vpliv stari starš?

Vzgoja, odnos do šole in izobrazbe, pomoč pri učenju ... Če v družini prevladuje mnenje, da izobrazba ni pomembna, da je bolje biti dober v basketu kot v matematiki, če nihče ne bere knjig, če gredo v soboto raje v nakupovalno središče kot v muzej, če namesto dokumentarcev gledajo wrestling in telenovele ... se to pač pozna.

O.

Kolikor je meni znano je vpliv okolja na iq ogromen in če otroci v mladosti ne dobijo priložnosti da razvijajo svoje glavce je nekak logicno da je iq nizji (hocem povedat da nemores kar tako iz teh podatkov sklepat na povprecni iq rase)

Kaj pa če te generacijo za generacijo poneumljajo z socialno disfunkcionalnim vzorom "preroka"?

Saj ni čudno, da gangsterji po zaporih sprejemajo islam...

sirotka> WIKI: In 2002, 93.2% of prisoners were male. About 10.4% of all black males in the United States between the ages of 25 and 29 were sentenced and in prison, compared to 2.4% of Hispanic males and 1.3% of white males.
sirotka> tole tud nekaj pove

Ja. To pove, da je segregacija v ZDA še vedno institucionalizirana. Da temnopolti sestavljajo pretežni del socialnega dna. Ne vsi, jasno. Eden od njih bo jutri celo njihov predsednik. Sploh še ni bil v zaporu, si moreš misliti? Kaj svetlopoltim omogoča, da so v povprečju uspešnejši? Morda njihova superiorna inteligenca? Morda bistveno boljše povprečno materialno stanje staršev? Zakaj belci bežijo iz naselij, v katere pridejo temnopolti? So belci morda zabiti? Ne znajo izmeriti dejstva, da je med črnci višjih socialnih razredov nasilnost nižja kot med belci? Seveda ga znajo - samo preveč se ga bojijo - potem bi se "white power" mit sesul kot hišica iz kart.

Thomas> Morda res, morda je biološki vpliv rase res infinitezimalen, ko odvzameš vplive okolja. Morda.

To smo že izmerili, da je, se ni treba več spraševat, pa če je še tako politično nekorektno (in zato to rad počneš).

Bistri007> Kaj pa če te generacijo za generacijo poneumljajo z socialno disfunkcionalnim vzorom "preroka"?
Bistri007> Saj ni čudno, da gangsterji po zaporih sprejemajo islam...

Ne, ni čudno. Tudi ni čudno, da sprejemajo Kristusa. Šibki na duhu pogosto potrebujejo uteho, ki jo najdejo v alkoholu, drogah, religiji, nasilju.

In 1998, nearly one out of three Black men between the ages of 20-29 were in prison or jail, on probation or parole on any given day.[14][15] Approximately 70% of prisoners in the United States are non-Whites.

In belci so v večini. Očitno ni vse v odvetniki, pač nardijo več kriminalnih dejanj?

Evo, spet smo pri islamu ...

Vzgajala sta ga pa belca.

A sedaj so pa kar naenkrat pomembni starši in vzgoja?

O.

Če je neko okolje 40.000let morda favoriziralo večjo inteligenco, drugo pa hitrejše noge, se bo to seveda poznalo.


P.S. Okapi, imam en software, ki dokaj dobro prepoznava vzorce v tekstu.

Djordevic, sumiš? To bo kar dejstvo... seveda s pojasnilom, da gre za "odprto diskusijo". Nič nimam proti njej, nasprotno, takele cvetke me prav nasmejijo:

Šimpanzi so se od naše veje ločili pred največ 10 milijoni, črnci pa pred največ 40 tisoč leti. (Črnci so torej ločeni od naše veje, niso pa šimpanzi)

Jaz iskreno ne vem, kaj bremza črnce v Ameriki. Je to njihova še precej afriška kultura? Je to vseeno rasa?
Ko bodo končno poštekali, da se samo s trdim delom lahko daleč pride
Sej to se sprašujem. So to sposobni poštekati v dovolj velikem procentu, ali so vendarle rasno pogojeni vzroki, da tega ne poštekajo. (Črnci seveda v lajfu niso trdo delali... tudi med suženjstvom ne. Segregacije pa še nismo jemali).

White bongos talking...

Djordevic, sumiš? To bo kar dejstvo... seveda s pojasnilom, da gre za "odprto diskusijo". Nič nimam proti njej, nasprotno, takele cvetke me prav nasmejijo:

Šimpanzi so se od naše veje ločili pred največ 10 milijoni, črnci pa pred največ 40 tisoč leti. (Črnci so torej ločeni od naše veje, niso pa šimpanzi)

Jaz iskreno ne vem, kaj bremza črnce v Ameriki. Je to njihova še precej afriška kultura? Je to vseeno rasa?
Ko bodo končno poštekali, da se samo s trdim delom lahko daleč pride
Sej to se sprašujem. So to sposobni poštekati v dovolj velikem procentu, ali so vendarle rasno pogojeni vzroki, da tega ne poštekajo. (Črnci seveda v lajfu niso trdo delali... tudi med suženjstvom ne. Segregacije pa še nismo jemali).

To, da ima nekdo nižji IQ, še ne pomeni, da ga imaš za manjvrednega...
in ja....dejmo suženjstvo vn vlečt:) Čez 500let se bodo lahko še vedn na suženjstvo zgovarjal.
Segregacija...hehehe, seveda, izvajajo jo jasno, samo nad črnci?

White bongos talking...

Kdo ima tukaj predsodke?

sirotka> Pa tud drugač lej, pač črnski starši, oz. zdj je že vsaj 2 generaciji nazaj so imeli vse možnosti pri šolanju.

Vse možnosti? Tako kot pri nas romski otroci, ane?

Double_J> Sej to je lahko problem. Če ni več suženjstva, še ne pomeni, da ni več treba delati, kot se enim zdi.

Črnci imajo največ težav z iskanjem zaposlitve, hkrati pa delajo največ služb hkrati. Ti to kaj pove? Tudi ni skrivnost da za isti denar delajo več kot belci - tako je reči oblikoval trg (ki ni prav nič svoboden, saj so delodajalci v veliki večini belci, ki so kapital za biznis, ne boš verjel, dobili od svojih prednikov - za razliko od večine temnopoltih, ki od prednikov dobijo predvsem račun za zdravstveno oskrbo).

P.S. Okapi, imam en software, ki dokaj dobro prepoznava vzorce v tekstu.

In?

O.

Jaz mnogo več dam na Woodyja Allena in njegovo modrost.

Mnogo več kot na modrost Čimpskega ... še ne pomeni bogve kaj. Štekaš ti to?

Men se žvižga za Woodyja, razen kar je hecen.

Thomas, ti sam s sabo debatiraš?

Dokaz, da celo Arabci ne marajo radikalnega islama & da naši levičarji bolj zagovarjajo Hamas kot Arabci sami:

Why Arab states are unmoved by plight of Hamas: most fear Muslim militancy despite their dislike of Israel

In New York a United Nations human rights chief alleges Israel has committed war crimes in Gaza.

By Tim Butcher in Jerusalem
Last Updated: 6:57PM GMT 17 Jan 2009

The leadership of Mahmoud Abbas reacted to operation Cast Lead with an accusation that Hamas had brought the attack upon itself.

In Geneva the normally silent International Committee of the Red Cross goes public to condemn the Jewish state. And in Kensington barriers have to be erected by police to stop protesters reaching the embassy of Israel.

By contrast, the reaction in the Arab world seems almost mute. There are a few rallies in countries such as Syria and Yemen where Israeli flags are burned but that happens after Friday prayers on high days and holidays anyway.

The Arab League splinters over which member state should host an emergency summit on Gaza. Even in the West Bank, just 40 miles from Gaza and home to 2.5 million fellow Palestinians, a call by militants for mass protest rallies dubbed "days of wrath" passes largely unheeded.

Why is it that, as Israel prepared to announce a cessation of offensive operations in Gaza, the Arab Street remained so apparently unmoved by its assault on the tiny territory?

The answer lies in the way many Arab regimes view militant Islam, as represented by Hamas. The West has come to view Muslim militancy as one of its biggest threats in the 21st century but for many Arab countries including Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Saudi Arabia the same threat has existed for much longer.

Egypt's secular, military leaders have been struggling with the Muslim Brotherhood since the 1920s. They have tried arresting leaders, invoked emergency powers to stop popular demonstrations and banned members of "the Brothers" from standing in elections. President Hosni Mubarak's dictatorship remains in power in Egypt but militant Islam remains one of the most clear and present dangers to his rule.

The links between Hamas and "the Brothers" are strong, deep and long-standing. The Gaza Strip, which is the powerbase of Hamas, abuts Egypt and in the eyes of many the Palestinian movement is little more than the "North Sinai Branch" of the Muslim Brotherhood. So just as Cairo needs to keep "the Brothers" in check, it also has an interest in seeing Hamas weakened.

As Amotz Asa-El, an Israeli commentator, put it: "Gullible Westerners can delude themselves that a Sharia (Islamic rule) state in Gaza will care only about itself and Israel. Mubarak evidently knows better than that."

A similar sense of wariness towards mass political parties that invoke militancy in the name of Allah joins other diverse Arab nations such as Saudi Arabia and Syria.

The Saudi royal family might follow the conservative form of Islam known as Wahabism but the real strength of the regime stems from extensive interwoven family ties and their traditional links. Jihadist groups like al-Qa'eda represent as big a threat to this clan-based network of elites as they do to America and while Hamas and al-Qa'eda do not share the same jihadist ideology, the Saudi leadership is acutely wary of a mass movement such as Hamas that is motivated by Islam.

Even Syria, the country that sponsors Hamas and gives a home in Damascus to its politburo led by Khaled Meshaal, has learnt to be wary of militant Islam. Syria might provide Hamas with support today but it only does this as an indirect way of putting pressure on Israel, a country that Syria remains officially at war with and from which Damascus hopes one day to win back the Golan Heights lost to the Jewish state in 1967.

In 1982 Syria's then president, Hafez al Assad, the father of the current president, Bashar al Assad, showed exactly how tolerant he would be towards his country's Muslim Brotherhood. After the movement started to stage guerrilla attacks on Syrian state organs like the police force, he ordered his army to surround Hama, the town where the group had its de facto headquarters, and shell it with artillery. The death toll, mostly civilian, was never definitively established but some estimates put it as high as 20,000.

So while regimes across the Arab world have condemned the huge loss of civilian life caused by Israel's military assault on Gaza there are few regimes rushing to offer solidarity with Hamas.

Over in the West Bank, the moderate Palestinian leadership of Mahmoud Abbas, the Fatah leader, reacted to the opening shots of operation Cast Lead with a very clear accusation that Hamas had brought the attack upon itself. He has since issued hand-wringing condemnations of incidents where Israel has caused mass loss of civilian life but the sense remains that Fatah is not entirely unhappy at Israel's weakening of Hamas.

In the independence period when the Arab states were created in the early and mid 20th century on often-heard rallying cry was Pan-Arabism, the ideology that said all Arabs from the Atlantic coast of Morocco in the west to the Omani coastline in the east should unite as one.

If nothing else, the Arab reaction to the Gaza assault should serve as a reminder of the folly of believing in that.

Ne se kregat o črncih vs. belcih tle.

Bistri007> Dokaz, da celo Arabci ne marajo radikalnega islama & da naši levičarji bolj zagovarjajo Hamas kot Arabci sami

Tudi muslimani ne marajo radikalnega islama.

Ne vem koga misliš z "naši levičarji", ampak jaz ne poznam nobenega, ki bi Hamas zagovarjal.

Nekateri se tukaj malo preveč razburjate oz. ste obremenjeni z rasno enakostjo. Thomas je postavil čisto smiselno tezo. Ta nekaj tisočletna ločitev med črnimi afričani in indoevropejci se lahko tudi pozna. Sam bi sicer rekel, da je vpliv okolja toliko večji faktor, da tudi če bi kdaj znali izmeriti rasne razlike, to ne ničesar spremenilo. Sploh pa se čedalje bolj mixamo.

Tako primitivni kot ti, Thor?

Ki resno misliš, če je neka rasa v nečem inferiorna, da potem kar izgubijo volilno pravico? Da jih je potem treba kar iztrebiti?

Imam občutek, da se eni tako bojijo samih sebe, da se stalno zatekajo v politično korektnost.

Tragedija vsega tega šmorna je v tem, da se naši levičarji ne zavedajo, da v resnici nimajo rešitve za problem Izraela in Gaze, mislijo pa, da jo imajo.

Rešitev, ki jo ponujajo, je zelo podobna rešitvi delavstva izpod jarma kapitalistov, po principu, kako da je treba samo kapitalistu vzeti in dati delavcu, pa bo stvar rešena.

Sedaj imajo podoben recept, da je pač treba Izraelu "vzeti čim" več in "dati" Palestincem, pa bo vse v redu.

Bo figo.

Zagovarjanje šibkejšega je povsem korektna strategija, vendar če stremiš k nekemu napredku, moraš močnejšemu pač dovoliti, da uporabi določena sredstva, pri obrambi sebe in svojega naprednejšega sistema, še posebej, če šibkejši vsiljuje sistem, ki je slabši. To je sicer nekoliko kruto do šibkejšega, vendar je edino pametno in v končni fazi bolje tudi za šibkejšega.

Tako, da tukaj sploh ni nobene dileme. Zahod, če kaj da nase in na svoj sistem napredka, mora podpreti Izrael, še posebej v primeru, če je ta napaden s strani slabšega sistema, kar se v tem primeru tudi dogaja.

Problem z našimi leftiji je v glavnem v tem, da se zanje ne ve pravzaprav, ali jim je res tako žal vseh krivic, ki se dogajajo, ali pa je to samo marketinška poteza, podobna tisti o enakosti ljudi, ki so jo sfurali in zafurali.

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ČIsto možno je, da bo Islam ugotovil,d a se na zahodu in sploh narobe obnaša in trži in da bo za bodočnost nujen korakov sožitje in zmernost.

To se nam na Zahodu tako zdi, ker smo že toliko stvari porihtali, sedaj pa sanjamo o nekem raju, ki ne bo obremenjen z vsakdanjimi tegobami. Ampak vsakdanje tegobe pridejo, takoj ko nehaš skrbet za to, da bi jih bilo čim manj.

Da bi Islam lahko ponudil kaj boljšega od tega kar imamo, ne da bi sprejel najprej to kar že imamo, je utopija.

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