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Katere RAMe za Epox 9NPA+ SLI z AMD64 3000+ Venice?!
skype ::
Odpiram novo temo ker se ne znajdem več med morjem odgovorov drugje...
Sem totalno zmeden, eni pravjo TCCD zarad nizkih voltaž, drugi neki BH-5, pol je tle še UTT k se mi ne sanja več kva še to pomen, eni pravjo TwinMOS SP, drugi pravjo da ravno teh ne...
Skratka, predlagajte mi prosim RAMe za ploščo Epox 9NPA+ SLI in AMD64 3000+, cena - raje dam manj, največ pa do recimo 33k (kolikor stanejo TwinMOS SP pr Mlacomu). Zanima me torej KATER spomin od vse te ponudbe?
Navijat bi probal, kasneje...
Še to me zanima...a naj raje dam 25k za 1GB (2*512) poceni RAMe in prišparam par jurjev do naslednjih boljših RAMov (ki se kolikor toliko navijejo), al naj raj ta denar namenim še dodatni ploščici 512?
GeIL, TwinMOS, Apacer, Patriot...?! Kaj torej? :)
Sem totalno zmeden, eni pravjo TCCD zarad nizkih voltaž, drugi neki BH-5, pol je tle še UTT k se mi ne sanja več kva še to pomen, eni pravjo TwinMOS SP, drugi pravjo da ravno teh ne...
Skratka, predlagajte mi prosim RAMe za ploščo Epox 9NPA+ SLI in AMD64 3000+, cena - raje dam manj, največ pa do recimo 33k (kolikor stanejo TwinMOS SP pr Mlacomu). Zanima me torej KATER spomin od vse te ponudbe?
Navijat bi probal, kasneje...
Še to me zanima...a naj raje dam 25k za 1GB (2*512) poceni RAMe in prišparam par jurjev do naslednjih boljših RAMov (ki se kolikor toliko navijejo), al naj raj ta denar namenim še dodatni ploščici 512?
GeIL, TwinMOS, Apacer, Patriot...?! Kaj torej? :)
Caligula ::
Glede na tvojo plato Twinmosi odpadejo, ker so primerni predvsem za hard core overclockerje, ki imajo po 3.5 do 4v na voljo za RAMe. Tvoja plata tega sploh ne omogoca. Vzami TCCD rame, ker bos lahko zivalsko navijal in to pri nizkih voltazah.
Apacerji ali PAtrioti so nekako najbolj ugodni.
Na A64 sistemih bi znali celo levi rami dobro letet. Se mi zdi, da ta cipset povlece ogromno celo iz najbolj brezveznih RAMov.
Pa TCCD so boljsi, ker bos dosegal visje hitrosti, kar je pri A64 edino res pomembno.
DFIjev usluzbenec na DFI forumu pravi:
memory bandwidth is pointless on the A64....cpu Mhz is what you should shoot for (thats why a 754 @ 2.4Ghz is just as fast in every single way as a 2.4Ghz 939 EXCEPT the memory bandwidth score...but it will bench every other test exactly the same)
Apacerji ali PAtrioti so nekako najbolj ugodni.
Na A64 sistemih bi znali celo levi rami dobro letet. Se mi zdi, da ta cipset povlece ogromno celo iz najbolj brezveznih RAMov.
Pa TCCD so boljsi, ker bos dosegal visje hitrosti, kar je pri A64 edino res pomembno.
DFIjev usluzbenec na DFI forumu pravi:
memory bandwidth is pointless on the A64....cpu Mhz is what you should shoot for (thats why a 754 @ 2.4Ghz is just as fast in every single way as a 2.4Ghz 939 EXCEPT the memory bandwidth score...but it will bench every other test exactly the same)
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Caligula ::
Pa se nekaj zanimivega:
"You are missing a key factor in overclocking A64's. With the A64's onboard memory controller, when you are overclocking ram you are putting additional stress on the CPU. So when you overclock the CPU and the ram together you are putting maximum stress on the CPU. You will always be able to clock your CPU higher at a lower voltage when underclocking ram.
If your max CPU overclock is 2.7ghz with ram at 150mhz, you may only hit 2.6ghz with ram at 200mhz with the same voltage. You can shoot for something like 289x9=2601 with ram divider at 166 (235-236mhz) but you will have to give it 1.55-1.60v on the CPU and 2.9v on the ram.
The isolate and consolidate method was developed before the onboard mem controllers came along, and CPU and ram where totally independent. With A64's the consolidate portion becomes much more difficult and requires sacrificing some CPU and or ram speed.
But honestly high ramspeed doesn't provide nearly as much performance on A64's as high CPU speed. 2.7ghz with ram at 150mhz(DDR300) will probably provide more performance than 2.7ghz with ram at 235mhz(DDR470). Thats why most people experienced with overclocking A64's will tell you expensive overclocking ram is a waste of money on A64's. I sure wish I'd have known that before I bought my OCZ platinum rev2 "
"You are missing a key factor in overclocking A64's. With the A64's onboard memory controller, when you are overclocking ram you are putting additional stress on the CPU. So when you overclock the CPU and the ram together you are putting maximum stress on the CPU. You will always be able to clock your CPU higher at a lower voltage when underclocking ram.
If your max CPU overclock is 2.7ghz with ram at 150mhz, you may only hit 2.6ghz with ram at 200mhz with the same voltage. You can shoot for something like 289x9=2601 with ram divider at 166 (235-236mhz) but you will have to give it 1.55-1.60v on the CPU and 2.9v on the ram.
The isolate and consolidate method was developed before the onboard mem controllers came along, and CPU and ram where totally independent. With A64's the consolidate portion becomes much more difficult and requires sacrificing some CPU and or ram speed.
But honestly high ramspeed doesn't provide nearly as much performance on A64's as high CPU speed. 2.7ghz with ram at 150mhz(DDR300) will probably provide more performance than 2.7ghz with ram at 235mhz(DDR470). Thats why most people experienced with overclocking A64's will tell you expensive overclocking ram is a waste of money on A64's. I sure wish I'd have known that before I bought my OCZ platinum rev2 "
Caligula ::
No jaz sem imel eno 512 Mb ploscico in ni bla vredna niti tisto malo denarja. Se ni preko 220 Mhz na DFI platah navijala. Neglede na voltaze...
Caligula ::
Ker tudi nizkih timingov ni dosegala. Tudi pri nizkih frekvencah. To pa zmore se tako beden ram. Patriot je verjetno boljsi.
Geil je drazji in ne nudi prav nic.
Geil je drazji in ne nudi prav nic.
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- spremenil: Caligula ()
eDDi ::
je tolko majhna razlika, oz je ni, da se ne splača niti razmišljat o tem. raje čas za razmišljanje porabi za kaj drugega.
kopriwa ::
A se da še kje nabavt TCCD rame, ala take kot jih mate v podpisih ko letijo 300 na nizkih voltažah :P, al pa vsaj tm 250-270, pa da so kokr tolk pocen
Nesta ::
sm ze najprej razmislov da bi ubavu 2* Patriot RAMe. Sam jih ne poznam kej dost. So pa res dost pocen.
Primoz78 ::
Poglej na bolhi...en prodaja 2x512MB Apacer PC4000 za 28 K SIT...baje so novi...sam vprasi ga ce so TCCD ali TCC5...
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Caligula ::
Je razlika. 1 giga Patriotov en na bolhi prodaja za 18 jurjev-mislim, da so novi.
Pa pr PC-DOMu jih majo obcasno za skoraj isto ceno.
Pa pr PC-DOMu jih majo obcasno za skoraj isto ceno.
kopriwa ::
un k ma na bolhi oglas piše da so Apacer čipi, niso TCCD od Samsunga? hvala vseeno za info
Caligula ::
Sej ni treba, da so TCCD cipi. TCCD so odlicni ampak drazji. Ce bi rad dal vec denarja, so TCCD cipi zelo vredu. Misljeno je predvsem price/effect ratio. Zato se splacajo. Ker z rastjo cene RAMa ne bos niti briblizno sorazmerno pridobival na zmogljivosti sistema.
Fizikalko ::
A ma kdo izkušnje z običajnimi Patriot rami (torej ne LL)? Vzel bi 2*1GB - kako se kaj obnese?
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