Slo-Tech - Intel je sedaj tudi uradno potrdil, kar je kazalo že od začetka težav s procesorji 13. in 14. generacije. Čipi za prenosne računalnike niso prizadeti in nimajo težav s previsoko napetostjo, zato jih ne bo treba menjati. Drugače je z zmogljivimi procesorji za namizne računalnike, za katere pa je Intel zgolj za dve leti podaljšal garancijsko obdobje, ki omogoča zamenjavo ob pojavu napak, niso pa se odločili za odpoklic.
Po trenutnih podatkih za težav, ki so jo uradno poimenovali Vmin Shift Instability, trpijo procesorji 13. in 14. generacije i5, i7 in i9 serij K ter predstavniki drugih serij, ki imajo deklarirano porabo nad 65 W. Brezhibni pa so vsi i3, vse starejše generacije, Xeoni in Intel Core Ultra (serija 1). Ne glede na to razvrstitev pa Intel priporoča nadgradnjo BIOS-a vseh matičnih plošč in procesorske mikrokode z orodjem Intel Compatibility Tool. Intel zagotavlja še, da bodo tudi nove generacije (Arrow Lake in Lunar Lake) brez težav.
Vzrok za počasno degradacijo procesorjev, ki se kaže v težavah s stabilnostjo, je neprimerno upravljanje napetosti. Procesorji zaradi napake v algoritmu za določanje napetosti pri različnih obremenitvah pri razbremenitvi za hip prejmejo previsoke sunke napetosti, ki povzročajo kopičenje defektov v čipu. Intel je težavo rešil s spremembo nastavitev, ki napetost znižajo, a to ne more popraviti že okvarjenih čipov, temveč zgolj prepreči nastajanje novih defektov.
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111111111111 ::
Intel potrdil: procesorji za prenosnike niso prizadeti, izjavo potrjuje združenje ameriških psihoterapevtov. Intelovi procesorji so normalni. :D
Če prisloniš uho na vroč šporhet, lahko zavohaš kak si fuknjen.
blackbfm ::
Kek za vse INTEL fanbojcke:).
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Gregor P ::
Valda kao niso, če pa tečejo na nižjih napetostih; povišaš napetost in voila
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You read what you believe and you believe what you read ...
Nisam čit'o, ali osudjujem (nisem bral, a obsojam).
You read what you believe and you believe what you read ...
Nisam čit'o, ali osudjujem (nisem bral, a obsojam).
mtosev ::
Super da vem, če ne pridejo kmalu ven Strix point prenosniki, da lahko brez skrbi vzamem Intel.
Core i9 10900X, ASUS Prime X299 Edition 30, 32GB 4x8 3600Mhz G.skill, CM H500M,
ASUS ROG Strix RTX 2080 Super, Samsung 970 PRO, UltraSharp UP3017, Win 11 Pro,
Enermax Platimax 1700W | moj oče darko 1960-2016, moj labradorec max 2002-2013
ASUS ROG Strix RTX 2080 Super, Samsung 970 PRO, UltraSharp UP3017, Win 11 Pro,
Enermax Platimax 1700W | moj oče darko 1960-2016, moj labradorec max 2002-2013
mtosev ::
1500€ ne dam. Čakam na < 1000€.
Core i9 10900X, ASUS Prime X299 Edition 30, 32GB 4x8 3600Mhz G.skill, CM H500M,
ASUS ROG Strix RTX 2080 Super, Samsung 970 PRO, UltraSharp UP3017, Win 11 Pro,
Enermax Platimax 1700W | moj oče darko 1960-2016, moj labradorec max 2002-2013
ASUS ROG Strix RTX 2080 Super, Samsung 970 PRO, UltraSharp UP3017, Win 11 Pro,
Enermax Platimax 1700W | moj oče darko 1960-2016, moj labradorec max 2002-2013
BT52 ::
Ehh zakaj bi proci držal.. Meni i7 2600 (zdaj imam ekvivaletnega E210X, sem pozabil točno kateri je) in mi služi kot main home server zdaj...
Mr.B ::
Če mobilni Procesorji niso prizadeti, nebi dobili micro code update. V končni fazi sej ne delajo specialno nao drugi ločeni liniji čipe namenjene za prenosnike. Sicer pa google pravi da imajo v prenosniki od Asus-a sem in tja pri HX seriji tudi 1.6V
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sbawe64 ::
In your face, Intel !
Thanks for the video buildzoid.
Just wanted to report that ASUS has done a poor job supporting laptops from as late as 2023.
My laptop with a 13980HX (essentially a 13900K with a wattage cap) latest bios revision from this past month is using microcode 0x123, and can easily voltage spike between 1.55V - 1.6V
drugače imate v tem komentarju razloženo, kaje je tip delal 1 uro
29:35 optimization settings
55:11 when to RMA CPU
35:55 undervolting settings - recommended for performance and even safer voltages but optional bc of instability risk: 38:00; also listen to 42:40 regarding undervolting!
Like he said, every CPU is different. The process of finding out how much you can undervolt is the following:
- Download Hardware Info 64 and BenchMate.
- Make sure you set the settings BZ listed (29:35, LLC6 is the most important even if you change other stuff).
- Set a negative VID offset, start with -0.07 f.a. (45:05).
- Boot, start BenchMate, start Cinebench, set a custom number of threads: top left corner click on "Preferences" to change this.
- Run multiple benchmark runs with different numbers of threads active (f.a. 1, 4, 8, 12, 16,...)
-> this ensures that different frequencies are stable. If fewer threads are active, the cores that are active have a greater "power budget" before the power-limit is reached. Therefore they can clock higher. You want to make sure that the highest clock is stable at the lowest voltage.
- If the CPU is stable, increase the negative offset value. I'd recommend increasing by 0.02 increments. Safes time. If you crash, lower the negative offset value by 0.01 and test again. After you found your stable offset (f.a. -0.11 like BZ has in this video), I'd personally lower it by at least 0.01 again (to -0.100) as an additional safety margin. Especially because cinebench is not a real stability test. YCruncher would be better f.a.
30:10
Sync ACDC loadline with VRM loadline ... tole ima samo Asus ?
Thanks for the video buildzoid.
Just wanted to report that ASUS has done a poor job supporting laptops from as late as 2023.
My laptop with a 13980HX (essentially a 13900K with a wattage cap) latest bios revision from this past month is using microcode 0x123, and can easily voltage spike between 1.55V - 1.6V
drugače imate v tem komentarju razloženo, kaje je tip delal 1 uro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI2x2_skwSs&lc=UgxQPXN_kyl8sVpAeM94AaABAg
29:35 optimization settings
55:11 when to RMA CPU
35:55 undervolting settings - recommended for performance and even safer voltages but optional bc of instability risk: 38:00; also listen to 42:40 regarding undervolting!
Like he said, every CPU is different. The process of finding out how much you can undervolt is the following:
- Download Hardware Info 64 and BenchMate.
- Make sure you set the settings BZ listed (29:35, LLC6 is the most important even if you change other stuff).
- Set a negative VID offset, start with -0.07 f.a. (45:05).
- Boot, start BenchMate, start Cinebench, set a custom number of threads: top left corner click on "Preferences" to change this.
- Run multiple benchmark runs with different numbers of threads active (f.a. 1, 4, 8, 12, 16,...)
-> this ensures that different frequencies are stable. If fewer threads are active, the cores that are active have a greater "power budget" before the power-limit is reached. Therefore they can clock higher. You want to make sure that the highest clock is stable at the lowest voltage.
- If the CPU is stable, increase the negative offset value. I'd recommend increasing by 0.02 increments. Safes time. If you crash, lower the negative offset value by 0.01 and test again. After you found your stable offset (f.a. -0.11 like BZ has in this video), I'd personally lower it by at least 0.01 again (to -0.100) as an additional safety margin. Especially because cinebench is not a real stability test. YCruncher would be better f.a.
30:10
Sync ACDC loadline with VRM loadline ... tole ima samo Asus ?
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FireSnake ::
Kek za vse INTEL fanbojcke:).
tudi ryzeni so se sesuvali in bluescreenali iz fucck knows kaksnih razlogov... in ni druge kot updejtaj plato / menjaj ram
Vir?
Super da vem, če ne pridejo kmalu ven Strix point prenosniki, da lahko brez skrbi vzamem Intel.
Plan, da vzameš Intel je bil že v štartu.
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