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Fritz ::

https://twitter.com/gabriel_zucman/stat...

Today, American billionaires have a lower effective tax rate (all taxes included) than their secretaries

Here's how Sanders, Warren, Buttigieg, and Biden propose to change tax progressivity

"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein

Conini ::

Fritz je izjavil:



Sanders bi torej odgnal miljarderje (pa službe) na Kitajsko. 98% tax rate.. INSANITY.

nejclp ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Vse kar šteje.

https://twitter.com/NumbersMuncher/stat...

CNN - 2020 Matchups in swing states (AZ, CO, FL, GA, ME, MI, MN, NV, NH, NM, NC, OH, PA, VA, WI):

Biden 49
Trump 47

Bloomberg 49
Trump 47

Trump 50
Buttigieg 46

Trump 49
Klobuchar 47

Trump 49
Sanders 49

Trump 49
Warren 48



Pri statistični napaki vzorca +/- 5,6

Ampak "pretty, pretty, pretty good" za Sandersa, če pa še centristični CNN ugotavlja, da ma celo v battleground states "skrajni levičar" več šans kot Warren, Buttigieg in Klobučarjeva.
Plus, tukaj je raziskava: https://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2020/images/01/...

Leaker49 ::

Sanders nima želje zmagat. Ko bo nabral dovolj donacij bo taktično pokleknil.

nejclp ::

Leaker49 je izjavil:

Sanders nima želje zmagat. Ko bo nabral dovolj donacij bo taktično pokleknil.

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/m...

Sp3m ::

FNN komentator in bivši svetovalec ameriškega predsednika Bill Clintona za odnose z javnostmi Joe Lockhart je malce tweetal.



Overheard convo between two Republican Senators who only watch Fox News. "is this stuff real? I haven't heard any of this before. I thought it was all about a server. If half the stuff Schiff is saying is true, we're up shit's creek. Hope the White House has exculpatory evidence


Seveda, takoj, ko so ga dobili je imel pripraven izgovor.

Ok maybe I made up the convo, but you know that's exactly what they're thinking.


Taki in podobne viri so verjetno Pac-Manovi insajderji in potem se sprašuje, zakaj se nič od njegovih napovedi ne uresniči!

nejclp ::

Lej, lej:
Tulsi Gabbard sues Hillary Clinton for $50m over 'Russian asset' remark

Leif ::

nejclp je izjavil:

Lej, lej:
Tulsi Gabbard sues Hillary Clinton for $50m over 'Russian asset' remark


Haha

nejclp ::

Leif je izjavil:

nejclp je izjavil:

Lej, lej:
Tulsi Gabbard sues Hillary Clinton for $50m over 'Russian asset' remark


Haha


Dober odvetnik bi to vsekakor moral dodat.

Pac-Man ::

Sp3m je izjavil:

FNN komentator in bivši svetovalec ameriškega predsednika Bill Clintona za odnose z javnostmi Joe Lockhart je malce tweetal.



Overheard convo between two Republican Senators who only watch Fox News. "is this stuff real? I haven't heard any of this before. I thought it was all about a server. If half the stuff Schiff is saying is true, we're up shit's creek. Hope the White House has exculpatory evidence


Seveda, takoj, ko so ga dobili je imel pripraven izgovor.

Ok maybe I made up the convo, but you know that's exactly what they're thinking.


Taki in podobne viri so verjetno Pac-Manovi insajderji in potem se sprašuje, zakaj se nič od njegovih napovedi ne uresniči!


Prvi tvit je objavljen ob 20:13, drug ob 20:22. Dobili so ga v devetih minutah?

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-just-l...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Leaker49 ::

Really Dirty Photos of Adam Schiff in Gay Drug Den Allegedly Surface

According to the FBI, Attorney General Bill Barr is wondering why Congressman Adam Schiff paid at least 16 separate visits to Ed Buck's apartment, which was a known drug den. Plus, AG Barr supposedly has some questions about the photographs of Adam Schiff that were seized by the FBI in Ed Buck's apartment, which depict Adam Schiff inside Ed Buck's known drug den, allegedly doing some... really gross stuff.

:))

Pac-Man ::

Vir je Odprta Durca.

https://twitter.com/JacobWohlReport/sta...

Njegov track record je bolj slab.

Jack Burkman @ Wikipedia
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Conini ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Njegov track record je bolj slab


Tud Pac-Manov track record je slab, kaj slab.. obupen.

c3p0 ::

Pacov track record je v bistvu odličen, le na nasprotno pozicijo moraš vedno staviti.

Sp3m ::

Še malce o impeachementu iz desne strani:



Pa še malce o Pochahontas:

WATCH: Father Asks Elizabeth Warren If He's Going To Get His Money Back After Paying For Daughter's Education


ps: Zakaj levaki ne marate Warrenove, zaradi šovinizma ali seksizma?

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nejclp ::

Sam tale Shapiro pa govori, kot da bi imel danko iz papirja, normalen človek ga težko posluša.

Smrekar1 ::

Zgolj za vzdrževanje pozornosti, strinjam se s citati gospodov:



In seveda:

"It certainly doesn't have to be a crime. If you have somebody who completely corrupts the office of president and who abuses trust and who poses great danger our liberty you don't need a technical crime." -- A.Dershowitz

Pametne besede pametnih gospodov, ki jih je potrebno spoštovati.

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Sp3m ::

Smrekar1 je izjavil:

Zgolj za vzdrževanje pozornosti, strinjam se s citati gospodov:



In seveda:

"It certainly doesn't have to be a crime. If you have somebody who completely corrupts the office of president and who abuses trust and who poses great danger our liberty you don't need a technical crime." -- A.Dershowitz

Pametne besede pametnih gospodov, ki jih je potrebno spoštovati.


A ti nisi v 20 letih niti malo spremenil svojega mnenja?

Si?

Zakaj misliš, da je potem 20 let stari citat danes še relavanten!?

ps: Še tole, daj prilepi še kak citat Pelosijeve ali kakega demokrata iz 20 let nazaj, iz Clintonovega impeachmenta, morda se boš čudil kako drugače mislijo...

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Pac-Man ::

Sp3m je izjavil:

Še tole, daj prilepi še kak citat Pelosijeve ali kakega demokrata iz 20 let nazaj, iz Clintonovega impeachmenta, morda se boš čudil kako drugače mislijo...


Bom jaz.

https://web.archive.org/web/20000612072...

Mr. Speaker, today is a tragic day for our country, because while our young people are fighting in the Persian Gulf and bringing honor to our country, we are bringing dishonor to it with our hypocrisy here in this chamber.

Today, the Republican majority is not judging the President with fairness, but is impeaching him with a vengeance. In the investigation of the President, fundamental principles which Americans hold dear--privacy, fairness, checks and balances--have been seriously violated. And why? We are here today because the Republicans in Congress are paralyzed with hatred of President Clinton, and until the Republicans free themselves of this hatred, our country will suffer.

I rise to oppose these unfair motions which call for the removal of the President of the United States from office, and in doing so, wish to point out some differences between the investigation of the President and the investigation of Newt Gingrich. The first principle in our investigation of Newt Gingrich was that at the moment we found exculpatory information, it would be reported immediately to the accused and be made public.

The independent counsel knew that the President was exonerated in Travelgate, Whitewater and Filegate and he held that information until the hearing, indeed until after the election. This was not fair. Indeed, it is the duty of any prosecutor to immediately release information that is exculpatory.

So it's not about Whitewater, it's not about Travelgate, and it's not about Filegate. It's about sex. It's about a punishment searching for a crime that doesn't exist.

In the Gingrich probe, we drew every inference in favor of the accused. But in this case, it took a closing question from a member of the grand jury to Monica Lewinsky, ``Is there anything you would like to add to your prior testimony?'' for Monica Lewinsky to respond, and I quote, ``No one ever asked me to lie, and I was never promised a job for my silence.''

The point is why didn't the independent counsel elicit that important testimony? In the Gingrich case, we spent a major part of our report explaining the laws which were violated. The Judiciary Committee has not proven perjury, it has not even defined perjury. Instead, it has kept the subject intentionally vague.

Whether one is violating a marital vow or some other aspect of his personal behavior, it is not an impeachable offense. You have not proven perjury.

In the Gingrich probe, we had a bipartisan unanimous vote in our subcommittee and an almost unanimous vote on the floor because we built consensus and we tried to bring the matter to closure.

We have that opportunity today, with a motion for censure which is constitutional. In 1800, Representative Livingston introduced a motion of censure against John Adams. President Adams was defended by Congressman John Marshall of Virginia--who would soon become Chief Justice of the United States. In his 34 years as Chief Justice he established much of our constitutional law, and he never argued, in the Adams case, that censure was not constitutional.

Censure is closure, censure is constitutional. How can the Republicans exalt Newt Gingrich to the highest post of Speaker after he admitted lying to Congress and try to impeach the President of the United States for lying about his personal affairs. I urge my colleagues to vote no, stop this hatchet job on the presidency, stop this hypocrisy, stop this hatred. Vote no on all four counts. Thank you.

https://pelosi.house.gov/sites/pelosi.h...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Sp3m ::

Evo ti par posnetkov o tem kako konsistentni so ti politiki na obeh straneh.



VaeVictis ::

CBS' early exit shows decisions networks face on impeachment

Že televizijske mreže ne spremljajo več impeachmenta.

On to the second day of Trump's impeachment trial

Is this thing still going on? Se sprašujejo pri New York Postu.

Conini ::

VaeVictis je izjavil:

CBS' early exit shows decisions networks face on impeachment

Že televizijske mreže ne spremljajo več impeachmenta.

On to the second day of Trump's impeachment trial

Is this thing still going on? Se sprašujejo pri New York Postu.


Kdo pa misliš, da bo spremljal tisto Shiffovo lažnivo lajnanje in ponavljanje ene in iste stvari 100x?
Že to, da Demokrati iščejo nove priče ti pove, da nimajo nič v rokah.

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Pac-Man ::

Schiffov včerajšnji zaključek. Trije deli po devet minut. V prvih dveh povzame celoten primer, zadnji je čustveni poziv. Right matters.

https://hillreporter.com/schiffs-closin...

Video of House manager Rep. Adam Schiff’s closing arguments during the Senate impeachment trial of President Donald Trump on Thursday evening swept across social media as it became a trending topic, shared thousands of times due to its resounding message.

It’s possible that someday historians will call his remarks the “right matters speech,” because the overall theme of Schiff’s words was that concept — that truth and doing the right thing depended on what Senators do in the impeachment trial.



The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Sp3m ::

Lep primer kako Pac-Manovi novinarski kolegi kazejo resnico.

ABC News' George Stephanopoulos cuts short Trump lawyer Q&A with throat-slash gestur

Sp3m ::

Drugace pa, kako ves, da tale impeachment prakticno nobenga ne zanima?

Tako, da se celo Pac-Man samo priblizno enkrat na dan posta pri vsem tem adrenalina polnem procesu!

Pac-Man ::

V: Kako veš, da Sp3m nima pojma o pojmu?
O: Bereš ga.

Zdaj je treba prepričat vsaj 4 republikanske senatorje, da glasujejo za dodatne priče. Giuliani, Bolton pa to. Takrat bo akcija.

Zaenkrat so z javnim mnenjem uspešni.

https://www.axios.com/trump-impeachment...

Polling out Friday from ABC News and the Washington Post shows 66% of Americans want the Senate to call new witnesses. Several other polls this week returned with similar approval for witnesses:

57%, according to Morning Consult/Politico
69%, from CNN conducted by SSRS
About 70%, from the AP/NORC Center for Public Affairs Research
72%, from Reuters/Ipsos polling
66%, from Quinnipiac National Poll said they want Bolton to testify



Plan B je, da po propadlem sojenju v senatu, kongres nadaljuje s preiskavo - do prič pridejo s sodnimi odločbami - in nato po republikanskih senatorjih udarijo z negativnimi oglasi. Ker dodatno sranje bo prišlo na dan.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

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Pac-Man ::

Tako se izgubi volitve.

https://twitter.com/PpollingNumbers/sta...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Pac-Man ::

Stabilni genij o desantu na al Bagdadija. Prepis skrivnega posnetka z donatorske večerje.

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/12207...
Ne vem kje začet.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

nejclp ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Tako se izgubi volitve.

https://twitter.com/PpollingNumbers/sta...

Skratka, nominirati morajo Sandersa, sicer izgubijo zajeten del volivcev.

Conini ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Tako se izgubi volitve.


Paco je vendarle pogruntal, da so Demokrati ideološko narazen (in pred razpadom), medtem ko so Republikanci trdno za Trumpom (več kot 95% podpore znotraj stranke). Vsak dan kaj novega, ane? :))

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Schiffov včerajšnji zaključek. Trije deli po devet minut. V prvih dveh povzame celoten primer, zadnji je čustveni poziv. Right matters.


Jao, jao, a reeees, a čustven poziv dolgoletnega politika (prvoklasnega lažnivca in leakerja selektivnih informacij)?! :))

Paco, tebi ni jasno čisto nič.

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dice7 ::

Conini je izjavil:

da so Demokrati ideološko narazen (in pred razpadom), medtem ko so Republikanci trdno za Trumpom (več kot 95% podpore znotraj stranke).

Ravno to je tisti najbolj zaskrbljujoci del. Ideoloska spranost ni nikoli prinesla nic dobrega

Conini ::

dice7 je izjavil:

Conini je izjavil:

da so Demokrati ideološko narazen (in pred razpadom), medtem ko so Republikanci trdno za Trumpom (več kot 95% podpore znotraj stranke).

Ravno to je tisti najbolj zaskrbljujoci del. Ideoloska spranost ni nikoli prinesla nic dobrega


Ideološka spranost, čemur ti praviš, je nujna za funkcioniranje političnih strank. Če se določeni ljudje o čem ne strinjajo, pač USTANOVIJO NOVO STRANKO. Ampak Sanders, pač ne. On se štuli tja, kamor ne spada. Če je lahko neodvisni kandidat v senatu, bi pa bil neodvisni kandidat tudi za predsednika. Če je tako neodvisen kot pravi. Pa NI.

Pac-Man ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Ker dodatno sranje bo prišlo na dan.

Dodatno sranje je prišlo na dan.

Tokrat skrivni posnetek srečanja s Parnasom in Frumanom, BTW za oba trdi, da ju ne pozna, na katerem naroči, da se morajo znebiti Jovanovičeve. Audio:

https://twitter.com/ABCWorldNews/status...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Pac-Man ::

nejclp je izjavil:

Skratka, nominirati morajo Sandersa, sicer izgubijo zajeten del volivcev.


Slabo bereš grafe. Po zgornjem morajo nominirat Yanga.

Med vrsticami je skrito, da s tem izgubijo precej več neodvisnih volivcev, ki kot taki predstavljajo 30% elektorata in republikancev, ki se jim gnusi trump in bodo raje ostali doma/glasovali za 3. stranko.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Conini ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Ker dodatno sranje bo prišlo na dan.

Dodatno sranje je prišlo na dan.

Tokrat skrivni posnetek srečanja s Parnasom in Frumanom, BTW za oba trdi, da ju ne pozna, na katerem naroči, da se morajo znebiti Jovanovičeve. Audio:

https://twitter.com/ABCWorldNews/status...


that appears

nejclp ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

nejclp je izjavil:

Skratka, nominirati morajo Sandersa, sicer izgubijo zajeten del volivcev.


Slabo bereš grafe. Po zgornjem morajo nominirat Yanga.

Med vrsticami je skrito, da s Volilni bazi moraš dat tisto, kar zahteva.tem izgubijo precej več neodvisnih volivcev, ki kot taki predstavljajo 30% elektorata in republikancev, ki se jim gnusi trump in bodo raje ostali doma/glasovali za 3. stranko.

Ne, ti slabo bereš grafe. Yang ma zanemarljiv delež podpornikov, Sanders pa je trenutno v vodstvu in šiša tudi Bidna, tko da se Yangovim podpornikom z lahkoto odpoveš, ker jih je zanemarljivo malo, Sandersovim pa ne.
Volilni bazi moraš dati tisto kar zahteva. Ko so demokratske volivce posilili s Clintonovo, se je končalo tako, da je zmagal Trump. Zdaj so Clintonovo opremili s penisom in pričakujejo, da bo Biden pometel s Trumpom, pa ne bo.

Pac-Man ::

Conini je izjavil:

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Ker dodatno sranje bo prišlo na dan.

Dodatno sranje je prišlo na dan.

Tokrat skrivni posnetek srečanja s Parnasom in Frumanom, BTW za oba trdi, da ju ne pozna, na katerem naroči, da se morajo znebiti Jovanovičeve. Audio:

https://twitter.com/ABCWorldNews/status...


that appears


Klasična pravna caka.

Poslušaj audio, Trump ima specifičen glas. Bela hiša ne zanika avtentičnosti.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Conini ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:


Klasična pravna caka.
Poslušaj audio, Trump ima specifičen glas. Bela hiša ne zanika avtentičnosti.


Klasično tvoje fake news sranje.
https://slo-tech.com/forum/t747273/p657...

Pac-Man ::

nejclp je izjavil:


Problem nastane, ko imaš dovolj steklo bazo, da imajo raje 4 leta Trumpa kot Bidna z liberalnim podpredsednikom/co.

In spet - teh volivcev je v swing states manj kot neodvisnih.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

nejclp ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

nejclp je izjavil:


Problem nastane, ko imaš dovolj steklo bazo, da imajo raje 4 leta Trumpa kot Bidna z liberalnim podpredsednikom/co.

In spet - teh volivcev je v swing states manj kot neodvisnih.

Ne, problem je, da bodo centristične pizdice raje volile Trumpa, kot pa Sandersa.
In ja, Hillary je res razsturila v swing states leta 2016, zakaj neki bi se to ne bi ponovilo, če je pa zdaj opremljena s penisom?

Conini ::

O pričah in impiču (v primerjavi z Nixon/Clinton):

Pac-Man ::

S svojim izvajanjem je začela obramba.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

dice7 ::

Conini je izjavil:

Ideološka spranost, čemur ti praviš, je nujna za funkcioniranje političnih strank. Če se določeni ljudje o čem ne strinjajo, pač USTANOVIJO NOVO STRANKO. Ampak Sanders, pač ne. On se štuli tja, kamor ne spada. Če je lahko neodvisni kandidat v senatu, bi pa bil neodvisni kandidat tudi za predsednika. Če je tako neodvisen kot pravi. Pa NI.

Joj, kje si bil 2015, ko je polovica stranke bojkotirala dumpija

Fritz ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

in republikancev, ki se jim gnusi trump in bodo raje ostali doma/glasovali za 3. stranko.

A ti je treba narisati kaj pomeni, če demokratski kandidat ustreza republikancem?

Veliko republikancem se Trump gnusi iz tega ali drugega razloga vendar ga podpirajo, ker imajo od tega korist.
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein

Fritz ::

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump . 3h
Our case against lyin', cheatin', liddle' Adam "Shifty" Schiff, Cryin' Chuck Schumer, Nervous Nancy Pelosi, their leader, dumb as a rock AOC, & the entire Radical Left, Do Nothing Democrat Party, starts today at 10:00 A.M. on @FoxNews, @OANN or Fake News @CNN or Fake News MSDNC!
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta...

Brez komentarja... :))
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein

Pac-Man ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Zdaj je treba prepričat vsaj 4 republikanske senatorje, da glasujejo za dodatne priče.

Romney deluje prepričan. Še tri rabimo.

https://twitter.com/JoshNBCNews/status/...
Just in - @MittRomney: "I think it's very likely I'll be in favor of witnesses, but I haven’t made a decision finally yet and I won’t until both side’s opening arguments are done.”
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Pac-Man ::

Potencialno bosta dovolj tudi dva.

V impičmentu pri razdelitvi 50/50 odločujočega glasu ne da podpredsednik ZDA, temveč predsednik vrhovnega sodišča John Roberts. Kako bi glasoval je loterija.

https://upolitics.com/news/can-chief-ju...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Fritz ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:


Romney deluje prepričan. Še tri rabimo.

Ti ne rabiš nikogar, ker nisi državljan in volivec v ZDA. Normalno je, da nam je nek kandidat bolj pri srcu kot drugi a navijaštvo ni primerno in tudi na tem povzroča nepotrebne debate na nož.

Trump je kakšen je a kot sem že napisal, tudi takšen prav lepo ustreza tako republikancem kot centrističnim demokratom. Impeachment je show za plebs. Bolj pomembno je, kdo bo kandidat demokratov in vprašanje ali bodo republikanci dobili večino v vrhovnem sodišču.
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein

Conini ::

dice7 je izjavil:

Joj, kje si bil 2015, ko je polovica stranke bojkotirala dumpija


A je bil Trump leta 2015 neodvisni senator?

Democrats Accidentally Proved Trump Is INNOCENT With LEAKED Audio Tape, Impeachment Collapsing


Pac-Man je izjavil:

[Še tri rabimo.


Kdo pa ste vi, ki rabte to?

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Conini ::

Fritz je izjavil:

vendar ga podpirajo, ker imajo od tega korist.


To si zamenjal s Sandersom. Ta obljublja zadeve zastonj in podobno.
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