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Conini ::
Potencialno bosta dovolj tudi dva.
Chris Murphy: It’s ‘Possible’ Some Democrats Vote to Acquit Trump
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020...
Sen. Chris Murphy (D-CT) said Saturday it is “certainly possible” some Senate Democrats will vote to acquit President Donald Trump when the Senate impeachment trial concludes.
Pac-Man ::
Trump je kakšen je a kot sem že napisal, tudi takšen prav lepo ustreza tako republikancem kot centrističnim demokratom.
Strike aaaaaaaaand miss.
Centrističnim demokratom (a-la Biden, Bloomberg, Klobuchar) vsekakor ne ustreza. Še večini neokonzervativcev (Bolton, Kristol, Boot, Frum, Conway, Podhoretz...) gre na jetra. Podpirajo ga čajankarji/freedumb scena republikanske stranke in tisti, ki se čutijo zapostavljene od sistema. Ampak na njihovo žalost v ZDA ne bo vrnitve v 50-ta, z rudarjenjem premoga in težko industrijo.
Ravno našel, Bloomberg je na superbowlu zakupil 60-sekundni oglas.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news...
Former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg bought a 60-second advertising slot during next month's Super Bowl. The commercial slot will likely cost approximately $10 million.
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“The biggest point is getting under Trump’s skin,” said Michael Frazier, a spokesman for the Bloomberg campaign. “We have the means to raise a national campaign unlike any other candidate.” They also said that the ad would directly attack the president as opposed to highlighting Bloomberg himself.
Tu gre za glasovanje ali so za odločanje potrebni dodatni dokazi, kjer se potrebuje navadno večino.
Za odpoklic manjka tam 20+ republikancev.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
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Pac-Man ::
Ker dodatno sranje bo prišlo na dan.
Dodatno sranje je prišlo na dan.
Dodatno sranje je spet prišlo na dan.
Posnetek celotne večerje Frumana & Parnasa s Trumpom z aprila 2018. 93 minut. Zvok in slika, ampak večino časa snema strop.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
Susan se je žrtvovala za narodov blagor in poslušala vseh 93 minut. Jagodni izbor spodaj, priporočam celo nit ker je sorazmerno noro.
https://twitter.com/TheViewFromLL2/stat...
Now everyone is discussing steel tariffs. Trump expresses frustration that South Korea dare competes with the U.S. steel industry: "Can you believe it." "How we ever got involved in South Korea in the first place, tell me about it."
Trump is bragging about his steel tariffs to one of the people at the dinner, and how much steel prices has gone up, and isn't that great. The man then gently corrects him, "I'm not a steel producer, I'm a steel buyer."
This is just a bunch of robber barons sitting around discussing how they can manipulate global trade in a way that provides the best benefit for their particular business.
Trump can't decide if NAFTA or WTO is worse for America. Then decides the deal with South Korea is probably the worst because it's a "Hillary special."
oh no no we're back to the golf
Trump: "Kim Jong Un is a great golfer."
We've moved on to The Wall. Trump is remarking on how it's amazing people can "shimmy up" those walls, and then stresses how important it is that walls be see-through, otherwise drug dealers will toss heavy sacks of drugs over the wall and kill people on the other side.
Ah, now we're getting to the good stuff: energy policy.
Trump: "Aren't the frackers out now because of the price? ... That's what I've heard."
Parnas is making his move: "LNG changes the game, right? If we export LNG we can supply Europe." Trump: "How about Germany opening a pipeline into Russia? ... Figure that out."
Parnas: 'We're in the process of purchasing an energy company in Ukraine that should cut off Russia.'
Trump, sounding more intrigued than he has all night: "Ukraine has OIL? *Ukraine*? But they don't have any money?"
Parnas: "They're waiting for your support to go on" with oil development, so that they don't lose it all to Russia.
Trump: "How long would they last in a fight with Russia?"
Trump: "It's always us that has to support everyone? Why isn't Germany doing anything?"
Parnas: "Germany isn't doing anything, they're supporting Russia."
Parnas: "We're in the process of purchasing -- Ukraine is privatizing one of it's biggest energy companies --"
Naftogaz, if that's what they're referring to, was obviously not in the process of being purchased.
Trump says everyone hating Hillary helped him: "I got 20% of Bernie's vote, people don't realize that."
They're wondering why Bernie Sanders hasn't gone "crazier" agains the Democrats, for betraying him or something, and start debating whether Sanders will run for 2020. Someone -- maybe Parnas? -- just said, laughing, "I hope Biden runs."
Someone at the table is now making their pitch for Trump to relax truck driver safety regulations.
Parnas and Fruman are showing Trump the letter from the Ukrainian Rabbi. They tell Trump that his name adds up to 424 – the same number as the Messiah, they tell him.
https://twitter.com/TheViewFromLL2/stat...
Now everyone is discussing steel tariffs. Trump expresses frustration that South Korea dare competes with the U.S. steel industry: "Can you believe it." "How we ever got involved in South Korea in the first place, tell me about it."
Trump is bragging about his steel tariffs to one of the people at the dinner, and how much steel prices has gone up, and isn't that great. The man then gently corrects him, "I'm not a steel producer, I'm a steel buyer."
This is just a bunch of robber barons sitting around discussing how they can manipulate global trade in a way that provides the best benefit for their particular business.
Trump can't decide if NAFTA or WTO is worse for America. Then decides the deal with South Korea is probably the worst because it's a "Hillary special."
oh no no we're back to the golf
Trump: "Kim Jong Un is a great golfer."
We've moved on to The Wall. Trump is remarking on how it's amazing people can "shimmy up" those walls, and then stresses how important it is that walls be see-through, otherwise drug dealers will toss heavy sacks of drugs over the wall and kill people on the other side.
Ah, now we're getting to the good stuff: energy policy.
Trump: "Aren't the frackers out now because of the price? ... That's what I've heard."
Parnas is making his move: "LNG changes the game, right? If we export LNG we can supply Europe." Trump: "How about Germany opening a pipeline into Russia? ... Figure that out."
Parnas: 'We're in the process of purchasing an energy company in Ukraine that should cut off Russia.'
Trump, sounding more intrigued than he has all night: "Ukraine has OIL? *Ukraine*? But they don't have any money?"
Parnas: "They're waiting for your support to go on" with oil development, so that they don't lose it all to Russia.
Trump: "How long would they last in a fight with Russia?"
Trump: "It's always us that has to support everyone? Why isn't Germany doing anything?"
Parnas: "Germany isn't doing anything, they're supporting Russia."
Parnas: "We're in the process of purchasing -- Ukraine is privatizing one of it's biggest energy companies --"
Naftogaz, if that's what they're referring to, was obviously not in the process of being purchased.
Trump says everyone hating Hillary helped him: "I got 20% of Bernie's vote, people don't realize that."
They're wondering why Bernie Sanders hasn't gone "crazier" agains the Democrats, for betraying him or something, and start debating whether Sanders will run for 2020. Someone -- maybe Parnas? -- just said, laughing, "I hope Biden runs."
Someone at the table is now making their pitch for Trump to relax truck driver safety regulations.
Parnas and Fruman are showing Trump the letter from the Ukrainian Rabbi. They tell Trump that his name adds up to 424 – the same number as the Messiah, they tell him.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Reycis ::
Jaz upam, da bo demokratski kandidat Bernie. Tako bodo volitve sigurno najbolj zabavne. Mislim pa, da je vseeno kdo zmaga. Stvari bodo šle enako naprej.
dice7 ::
VaeVictis ::
Bernie razlaga o svojem 60 bilijardnem načrtu.
Bernie: 'Impossible' To Know How Much My $60 Trillion In Plans Cost. CBS News Grills Him.
"You don't know; nobody knows," Sanders responded. "This is impossible to predict."
"You're going to propose a plan to the American people, and you're not going to tell them how much it costs?" O'Donnell persisted.
"Of course I will," Sanders responded. "Do you know exactly what health care costs will be - one minute - in the next ten years if we do nothing? It will be a lot more expensive than a Medicare for All single payer system."
Zanimivo kaj pravi CNN o prvem dnevu obrambe.
Toobin on impeachment trial: President is winning here
Impeachment Witness, Trump Critic: Trump Trial Defense 'Brilliant,' 'Sophisticated,' 'Effective'
Constitutional Law Professor at George Washington University Jonathan Turley, a Trump critic who was widely praised for his non-partisan testimony during House Democrats' impeachment hearings, praised Trump's legal team on Saturday over their performance in defending the president.
Bernie: 'Impossible' To Know How Much My $60 Trillion In Plans Cost. CBS News Grills Him.
"You don't know; nobody knows," Sanders responded. "This is impossible to predict."
"You're going to propose a plan to the American people, and you're not going to tell them how much it costs?" O'Donnell persisted.
"Of course I will," Sanders responded. "Do you know exactly what health care costs will be - one minute - in the next ten years if we do nothing? It will be a lot more expensive than a Medicare for All single payer system."
Zanimivo kaj pravi CNN o prvem dnevu obrambe.
Toobin on impeachment trial: President is winning here
Impeachment Witness, Trump Critic: Trump Trial Defense 'Brilliant,' 'Sophisticated,' 'Effective'
Constitutional Law Professor at George Washington University Jonathan Turley, a Trump critic who was widely praised for his non-partisan testimony during House Democrats' impeachment hearings, praised Trump's legal team on Saturday over their performance in defending the president.
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Fritz ::
vendar ga podpirajo, ker imajo od tega korist.
To si zamenjal s Sandersom. Ta obljublja zadeve zastonj in podobno.
Sanders ne obljublja zastonj zadev temveč splošno zdravstveno zavarovanje, brezplačno šolanje na univerzah ipd. Vse te zadeve stanejo a jih državljani pokrijejo skozi prispevke in davke...you know, as in Slovenia.
Poleg tega Sanders obljublja reči, od katerih bodo imeli koristi vsi, ne samo peščica milijarderjev, ki stojijo za Trumpom, Pelosijevo, Schummerjem, Bloombergom in podobnimi. A misliš, da je več volivcev pri 1% ali pri 99%? Sicer je res, da ima 1% neverjetno medijsko moč a Sandersu vsaj ne bodo mogli podtikati, da je antisemit, tako kot so to naredili Corbynu
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
Conini ::
Sanders ne obljublja zastonj zadev temveč splošno zdravstveno zavarovanje, brezplačno šolanje na univerzah ipd.
lol
Vse te zadeve stanejo a jih državljani pokrijejo skozi prispevke in davke...you know, as in Slovenia.
Že, ampak v Sloveniji so obdavčene dobrine praktično vse dražje kot v ZDA kar po drugi strani udari po žepu tudi tiste, ki plačujejo za višje davke. Na koncu velika večina ni prav v ničemer na boljšem. Kot že NEŠTETOKRAT povedano TUDI TEBI (res ne vem, zakaj moram to vedno in vedno in vedno ponavljat) da Sanders podpira odprte meje in talanje benefitov ljudem, ki niso ničesar plačevali v te blagajne. A je res potrebno poudarjat, da takšni sistemi finančno dolgoročno niso možni in da Sanders to počne samo zato, da dobi glasove na volitvah.
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Pac-Man ::
Turley - edina republikanska priča med zaslišanji v kongresu, ki je od Obame do Trumpa spremenil mnenje kaj opravičuje impičment?
https://www.businessinsider.com/republi...
Jonathan Turley, a professor at George Washington University Law School, testified on Wednesday that he didn't see any proof that President Donald Trump committed a crime and that Trump therefore should not be impeached.
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While the other witnesses laid out the case that Trump abused his power by trying to strong-arm Ukraine into caving to his personal demands while withholding vital military aid and a White House meeting, Turley argued there was no evidence that Trump broke a specific federal statute and that impeaching him would set a dangerous precedent.
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"While there's a high bar for what constitutes grounds for impeachment, an offense does not have to be indictable," Turley wrote in a 2014 op-ed for the Washington Post. "Serious misconduct or a violation of public trust is enough. And the founders emphasized that impeachments were about what happened in the political arena: involving 'political crimes and misdemeanors' and resulting in 'political punishments.'"
https://www.businessinsider.com/republi...
Jonathan Turley, a professor at George Washington University Law School, testified on Wednesday that he didn't see any proof that President Donald Trump committed a crime and that Trump therefore should not be impeached.
...
While the other witnesses laid out the case that Trump abused his power by trying to strong-arm Ukraine into caving to his personal demands while withholding vital military aid and a White House meeting, Turley argued there was no evidence that Trump broke a specific federal statute and that impeaching him would set a dangerous precedent.
...
"While there's a high bar for what constitutes grounds for impeachment, an offense does not have to be indictable," Turley wrote in a 2014 op-ed for the Washington Post. "Serious misconduct or a violation of public trust is enough. And the founders emphasized that impeachments were about what happened in the political arena: involving 'political crimes and misdemeanors' and resulting in 'political punishments.'"
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Fritz ::
Že, ampak v Sloveniji so obdavčene dobrine praktično vse dražje kot v ZDA kar po drugi strani udari po žepu tudi tiste, ki plačujejo za višje davke. Na koncu velika večina ni prav v ničemer na boljšem. Kot že NEŠTETOKRAT povedano TUDI TEBI (res ne vem, zakaj moram to vedno in vedno in vedno ponavljat) da Sanders podpira odprte meje in talanje benefitov ljudem, ki niso ničesar plačevali v te blagajne. A je res potrebno poudarjat, da takšni sistemi finančno dolgoročno niso možni in da Sanders to počne samo zato, da dobi glasove na volitvah.
Ne rabiš ponavljati svojih zavajanj, ker nisem tako omejen, da bi padel nanje. Sanders hoče legalizirate delovno silo, ki sedaj dela na črno (tudi pri Trumpu) zato, da bodo plačevali davke in imeli ustrezen status in tudi beneficije, ki iz tega izhajajo. Evropska socialdemokracija deluje že od 2. sv. vojne in je kot družba bistveno boljša in bolj normalna od ZDA, čeprav bi se dalo marsikaj izboljšati. Če misliš, da me boš prepričal v nasprotno z nekimi USA neoliberalnimi forami in trickle down pravljicami, se zaman trudiš.
Turley - edina republikanska priča med zaslišanji v kongresu, ki je od Obame do Trumpa spremenil mnenje kaj opravičuje impičment?
Republikanci dobro vedo, da uspešen impeachment pomeni slabši rezultat na nekaj naslednjih volitvah. In ti sedaj pričakuješ neko načelno držo z njihove strani? C'mon
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
Pac-Man ::
Dajte se odločit ali je republikanec ali kritik Trumpa. Ker je nekako vzpostavljeno, da januarja 2020 ne moreš biti legit oboje.
Impeachment Witness, Trump Critic: Trump Trial Defense 'Brilliant,' 'Sophisticated,' 'Effective'
Constitutional Law Professor at George Washington University Jonathan Turley, a Trump critic who was widely praised for his non-partisan testimony during House Democrats' impeachment hearings, praised Trump's legal team on Saturday over their performance in defending the president.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Conini ::
Ne rabiš ponavljati svojih zavajanj, ker nisem tako omejen, da bi padel nanje. Sanders hoče legalizirate delovno silo, ki sedaj dela na črno (tudi pri Trumpu) zato, da bodo plačevali davke in imeli ustrezen status in tudi beneficije, ki iz tega izhajajo. Evropska socialdemokracija deluje že od 2. sv. vojne in je kot družba bistveno boljša in bolj normalna od ZDA, čeprav bi se dalo marsikaj izboljšati. Če misliš, da me boš prepričal v nasprotno z nekimi USA neoliberalnimi forami in trickle down pravljicami, se zaman trudiš.
Absolutno je treba te stvari tebi ponavljati in opozarjati na zavajanja, ki jih pišeš. Višji davki pomenijo to, da večina preko državnega aparata plačuje za nekaj, od česar nima nič. V čem je točno interes nekoga, ki že plačuje svoj študentski kredit, da sedaj plačuje še šolanje nekomu, ki šele začenja s študijem? V ČEM? Aha... bomo pa nacionailizirali dolg študenstih kreditov, boš rekel. Pa seveda ne bomo ostali tukaj, bomo nacionalizirali še druge probleme, pa nabili davke v nebo. Hiter preskok iz ameriškega v evropski model praktično ni mogoč. Desetletja bi bila potrebna, ne pa en mandat enega Bernija (če ga bo sploh preživel).
To, da boš ti prodajal puhlice povprečnemu Američanu, da bo imel sedaj na pol zastonj zdravstveno oskrbo, ob tem da bo pa bencin 2x dražji, pa nov Ford +50%, kar pozabi. Ne bo funkcioniralo v ZDA.
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Conini ::
Pac-Man ::
NIČ SE NE RABIMO ODLOČIT, KER TRUMP NI NAŠ PREDSEDNIK.
Imamo mi svojih političnih zdrah in spletk dovolj.
Preden dobiš popizditis morda preberi svoja izvajanja v tej temi v zadnjem tednu?
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Conini ::
NIČ SE NE RABIMO ODLOČIT, KER TRUMP NI NAŠ PREDSEDNIK.
Imamo mi svojih političnih zdrah in spletk dovolj.
Preden dobiš popizditis morda preberi svoja izvajanja v tej temi v zadnjem tednu?
Moja izvajanja?
evo ti še ena:
Even CNN Admits Trump Won On Impeachment, Approval Up, Record Economy And Americans Credit Trump
Fritz ::
To, da boš ti prodajal puhlice povprečnemu Američanu, da bo imel sedaj na pol zastonj zdravstveno oskrbo, ob tem da bo pa bencin 2x dražji, pa nov Ford +50%, kar pozabi. Ne bo funkcioniralo v ZDA.
Heh, niso vsi Američani tako butasti, kot jih ti rišeš. So pa pod močnim vplivom tebi sorodne propagande, to drži. Sanders jim bo pomagal spregledati, da obstaja kapitalizem po meri človeka
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
Pac-Man ::
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
Bolton je 30. decembra poslal svojo prihajajočo knjigo beli hiši na vpogled. Vsebino poznajo. 
V njej obtoži Trumpa točno tega, za kar mu zdaj sodijo.
https://twitter.com/ThePlumLineGS/statu...
komentar:
https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/statu...
Watch for Mitch and the WH team (but I repeat myself) to work overtime to end the entire proceedings as fast as possible. This Bolton information is previously unheard, entirely relevant, directly makes the president’s direct command of the scheme of illegal extortion apparent. Unless you vote to demand it, you’re not Senators.
You’re co-conspirators.
More will come out. More will be revealed. The truth will out.
Trump will skate.
Republicans will be left holding the fecal end of the stick.
Live in fear, lose in shame.
The McConnell strategy depends on a swift march, strangling the truth, and praying for amnesia.
It’s a great pre-internet, pre-social media strategy.
All of this is forever, Senators.
You may as well tattoo “No Ragrets” on your foreheads.
Knjiga bo izdana 17. marca.
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4800...
Former national security adviser John Bolton's forthcoming memoir is titled "The Room Where It Happened" and is scheduled to be released March 17, according to a posting for the book that went live Sunday night.
https://twitter.com/ThePlumLineGS/statu...
komentar:
https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/statu...
Watch for Mitch and the WH team (but I repeat myself) to work overtime to end the entire proceedings as fast as possible. This Bolton information is previously unheard, entirely relevant, directly makes the president’s direct command of the scheme of illegal extortion apparent. Unless you vote to demand it, you’re not Senators.
You’re co-conspirators.
More will come out. More will be revealed. The truth will out.
Trump will skate.
Republicans will be left holding the fecal end of the stick.
Live in fear, lose in shame.
The McConnell strategy depends on a swift march, strangling the truth, and praying for amnesia.
It’s a great pre-internet, pre-social media strategy.
All of this is forever, Senators.
You may as well tattoo “No Ragrets” on your foreheads.
Knjiga bo izdana 17. marca.
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4800...
Former national security adviser John Bolton's forthcoming memoir is titled "The Room Where It Happened" and is scheduled to be released March 17, according to a posting for the book that went live Sunday night.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
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Conini ::
Heh, niso vsi Američani tako butasti, kot jih ti rišeš. So pa pod močnim vplivom tebi sorodne propagande, to drži. Sanders jim bo pomagal spregledati, da obstaja kapitalizem po meri človeka
Lahko si brez skrbi, da povprečni Američan ni tako butast, da bo verjel leftičarski proagandi, kako bo vsem bolje, pa kako bodo miljarderji vse plačali in podobne štose. Taki sistemi se morajo od nečesa napajat in to so predvsem višji davki, ki prizadanejo vse posredno ali neposredno. Prometni davek v ZDA in DDV stopnje v Evropi? Poznaš? Ma nimaš blage veze. Če dvigneš davke na prodajo blaga in storitev avtomatično zmanjšaš relativne prihodke prebivalstva. Ampak to je že preveč zate in za Bernija.
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Master_Yoda ::
Aha, pozabili pa bodo da so si privoscili veliko vec, ter infrastruktura bila boljsa pod recimo eisenhowerjem, ko so najbogatejse obdavcili do 90%.
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain.
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Fritz ::
Heh, niso vsi Američani tako butasti, kot jih ti rišeš. So pa pod močnim vplivom tebi sorodne propagande, to drži. Sanders jim bo pomagal spregledati, da obstaja kapitalizem po meri človeka
Lahko si brez skrbi, da povprečni Američan ni tako butast, da bo verjel leftičarski proagandi, kako bo vsem bolje, pa kako bodo miljarderji vse plačali in podobne štose. Taki sistemi se morajo od nečesa napajat in to so predvsem višji davki, ki prizadanejo vse posredno ali neposredno. Prometni davek v ZDA in DDV stopnje v Evropi? Poznaš? Ma nimaš blage veze. Če dvigneš davke na prodajo blaga in storitev avtomatično zmanjšaš relativne prihodke prebivalstva. Ampak to je že preveč zate in za Bernija.
O tem kdo nima blage veze priča že primerjanje poljubnih delčkov. Skupno so davki nekaj nižji v ZDA kot v EU vendar je istočasno cela vrsta zadev na plečih posameznika, od pokojninskega in zdravstvenega zavarovanja naprej. In če se ti tam kaj zalomi, npr. hudo zboliš ali pa delodajalec, ki je upravljal s pokojninskim skladom (Enron) gre v stečaj, si v riti. Primerljivo z EU, je veliko storitev v ZDA dražjih in slabših.
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
VaeVictis ::
Heh, niso vsi Američani tako butasti, kot jih ti rišeš. So pa pod močnim vplivom tebi sorodne propagande, to drži. Sanders jim bo pomagal spregledati, da obstaja kapitalizem po meri človeka
Lahko si brez skrbi, da povprečni Američan ni tako butast, da bo verjel leftičarski proagandi, kako bo vsem bolje, pa kako bodo miljarderji vse plačali in podobne štose. Taki sistemi se morajo od nečesa napajat in to so predvsem višji davki, ki prizadanejo vse posredno ali neposredno. Prometni davek v ZDA in DDV stopnje v Evropi? Poznaš? Ma nimaš blage veze. Če dvigneš davke na prodajo blaga in storitev avtomatično zmanjšaš relativne prihodke prebivalstva. Ampak to je že preveč zate in za Bernija.
O tem kdo nima blage veze priča že primerjanje poljubnih delčkov. Skupno so davki nekaj nižji v ZDA kot v EU vendar je istočasno cela vrsta zadev na plečih posameznika, od pokojninskega in zdravstvenega zavarovanja naprej. In če se ti tam kaj zalomi, npr. hudo zboliš ali pa delodajalec, ki je upravljal s pokojninskim skladom (Enron) gre v stečaj, si v riti. Primerljivo z EU, je veliko storitev v ZDA dražjih in slabših.
Kaj se po tvojem mnenju zgodi z Dow Jones, GDP itd.. v primeru, da Sanders zmaga?
Gredo gor, dol, ostanejo na istem?
Fritz ::
Predvidevam, da gredo v prvi fazi dol, saj bodo 0,1% delali dramo in štalo..srednjeročno pa se bodo zadeve umirile, dolgoročno pa je vprašanje ali je sedanja ekonomija sploh vzdržna, predvsem glede na ceno eksternalij, ki ogrožajo obstoj vrste.
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
VaeVictis ::
Predvidevam, da gredo v prvi fazi dol, saj bodo 0,1% delali dramo in štalo..srednjeročno pa se bodo zadeve umirile, dolgoročno pa je vprašanje ali je sedanja ekonomija sploh vzdržna, predvsem glede na ceno eksternalij, ki ogrožajo obstoj vrste.
Torej zakaj, bi volil demokratičnega socialista, ki ti bo prinesel padec BDP, višjo brezposelnost kar bo posledica padca BDP in nižjo vrednost tvojega 401k oz. pokojninskega sklada, ki je večinoma vezan na delnice ameriških podjetij?
Zraven pa ti bo prinesel večje davke in večje omejitve pri poslovanju!
Zgodovina sprememb…
- spremenilo: VaeVictis ()
Pac-Man ::
Jane Raskin, danes:
Attorney Raskin: Giuliani wasn’t on ‘political errand’ in Ukraine
Jane Raskin 25. marca 2019, ob zaključku muellerjeve preiskave:
https://twitter.com/awprokop/status/122...
Giuliani, Sekulow, fotografiral je Parnas, ki ga zdaj nihče ne pozna.
Attorney Raskin: Giuliani wasn’t on ‘political errand’ in Ukraine
Jane Raskin 25. marca 2019, ob zaključku muellerjeve preiskave:
https://twitter.com/awprokop/status/122...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Fritz ::
Zato, ker bo večina Američanov z demokratičnimi centristi/republikanci na bistveno slabšem, tako kot se jim godi od zadnje krize. Razmere se sicer izboljšujejo že od Obame naprej vendar na račun nebrzdanega zadolževanja. Razlike med bogatimi in srednjim razredom ter revnimi pa so vse večje. In skoraj vsi govorijo o krizi, ki prihaja že zato, ker od zadnje ni bilo bistvenih sprememb.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/yuwahedric...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/yuwahedric...
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
Pac-Man ::
Pri sosednji mizi je na ušesa vlekla takratna romunska premierka.
Spotted: Rudy Giuliani and Romania's prime minister
Rudy Giuliani and Romania’s prime minister dined within arm’s reach of each other this weekend at the Trump Hotel D.C.
Viorica Dancila stayed at the U.S. president’s hotel over the weekend (as Ilya Marritz of WNYC, Justin Elliott of ProPublica, and your correspondent reported on Monday). As that article explained, Giuliani, the president’s personal attorney, had “made overtures to the Romanian government since Trump was elected.”
But then, at 2:08 a.m. today, Giuliani tweeted a picture of himself dining in the hotel’s BLT Prime restaurant with the president’s “All Star legal team.” And there, seated just over Giuliani’s left shoulder, is the prime minister of Romania.
Spotted: Rudy Giuliani and Romania's prime minister
Rudy Giuliani and Romania’s prime minister dined within arm’s reach of each other this weekend at the Trump Hotel D.C.
Viorica Dancila stayed at the U.S. president’s hotel over the weekend (as Ilya Marritz of WNYC, Justin Elliott of ProPublica, and your correspondent reported on Monday). As that article explained, Giuliani, the president’s personal attorney, had “made overtures to the Romanian government since Trump was elected.”
But then, at 2:08 a.m. today, Giuliani tweeted a picture of himself dining in the hotel’s BLT Prime restaurant with the president’s “All Star legal team.” And there, seated just over Giuliani’s left shoulder, is the prime minister of Romania.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
jype7 ::
Torej zakaj, bi volil demokratičnega socialista, ki ti bo prinesel padec BDP, višjo brezposelnost kar bo posledica padca BDP in nižjo vrednost tvojega 401k oz. pokojninskega sklada, ki je večinoma vezan na delnice ameriških podjetij?Zato, ker so te metrike bullshit, ki koristi izključno najbogatejšim, vsem revnim se pa režijo v fris. Tisti, ki imajo od trenutnih vrednosti delniških trgov korist, imajo približno 0.08% vseh glasov na volitvah, imajo pa v lasti medije, think tanke in v splošnem tudi več kot polovico vsega, kar v državi obstaja.
Zraven pa ti bo prinesel večje davke in večje omejitve pri poslovanju!
Massacra ::
Torej zakaj, bi volil demokratičnega socialista, ki ti bo prinesel padec BDP, višjo brezposelnost kar bo posledica padca BDP in nižjo vrednost tvojega 401k oz. pokojninskega sklada, ki je večinoma vezan na delnice ameriških podjetij?Zato, ker so te metrike bullshit, ki koristi izključno najbogatejšim, vsem revnim se pa režijo v fris. Tisti, ki imajo od trenutnih vrednosti delniških trgov korist, imajo približno 0.08% vseh glasov na volitvah, imajo pa v lasti medije, think tanke in v splošnem tudi več kot polovico vsega, kar v državi obstaja.
Zraven pa ti bo prinesel večje davke in večje omejitve pri poslovanju!
Je pa jeba dejstvo, da lahko teh 0.1% velikih lastnikov kapitala in vlagateljev - KI JIH PODPIRA V GLAVNEM REPUBLIKANSKA KAPITALISTIČNA KLIKA - kaj hitro naredijo kolaps vrednosti delnic za kakšno leto, dve ali več.
In to bodo naredili, če Trump ne bo zmagal.
Naloga demokratov pa je, da jim vso skrito bogatstvo (od katerega niso plačali davkov) zaseže v obliki visokih dajatev in denar vrne v budžet! Ter s tem denarjem začne novi Big Deal!
Radikalno.
Ampak vse ostalo bo vodilo v novo UMETNO ustvarjeno krizo in zmanjšanje delovnih mest!
Težko se je boriti s pokvarjenostjo in pohlepom 0.1%, ki ima vlasti več kot 50%!
Zgodovina sprememb…
- spremenilo: Massacra ()
jype7 ::
T-h-o-r ::
You just shoot them in the head.
- Vorošilov
- Vorošilov
Why have a civilization anymore
if we no longer are interested in being civilized?
if we no longer are interested in being civilized?
Pac-Man ::
Rick Wilson promovira knjigo, pred dnevi je bil pri Donu Lemonu, kjer je verjetno namenoma užalil Trumpa in njegove podpornike. Od prejšnje knjige je on the record, da si za promocijo želi trumpovega RT.
bistvo @3:00
GOP strategist roasts Pompeo's response to NPR incident
Danes so povzetek segmenta z Daily Callerja RT Donald, Ivanka, Charlie Kirk in zagotovo še kdo.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta...
https://twitter.com/IvankaTrump/status/...
https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/statu...
Zdaj njegov TL spominja na Triumph the Insult Comic Dogovega
https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson
v ZDA pa trenda
Don Lemon
https://twitter.com/search?q=Don_Lemon
Rick Wilson
https://twitter.com/search?q=Rick_Wilson
Nepotism Barbie
https://twitter.com/search?q=Nepotism_B...
Ivanka
https://twitter.com/search?q=Ivanka
Vam rečem, 86D šah.
bistvo @3:00
GOP strategist roasts Pompeo's response to NPR incident
Danes so povzetek segmenta z Daily Callerja RT Donald, Ivanka, Charlie Kirk in zagotovo še kdo.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta...
https://twitter.com/IvankaTrump/status/...
https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/statu...
Zdaj njegov TL spominja na Triumph the Insult Comic Dogovega
https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson
v ZDA pa trenda
Don Lemon
https://twitter.com/search?q=Don_Lemon
Rick Wilson
https://twitter.com/search?q=Rick_Wilson
Nepotism Barbie
https://twitter.com/search?q=Nepotism_B...
Ivanka
https://twitter.com/search?q=Ivanka
Vam rečem, 86D šah.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Conini ::
všečno...
Don Lemon's INSANE Mockery Of Trump Supporters Is The Greatest Pro Trump Campaign Ad
hint: Hillary and deplorables 2016
95D chess ti povem
Don Lemon's INSANE Mockery Of Trump Supporters Is The Greatest Pro Trump Campaign Ad
hint: Hillary and deplorables 2016
95D chess ti povem
Pac-Man ::
všečno...
Don Lemon's INSANE Mockery Of Trump Supporters Is The Greatest Pro Trump Campaign Ad
hint: Hillary and deplorables 2016
95D chess ti povem
Zanimivo kako užaljeni postanejo ti braniki svobode govora, ko kdo grdo govori o njih.
https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/statu...
Team “Fuck Your Feelings” is out in force today with their fake rage and their “duh elites hate u fer lovin’ Trump” piffle.
So delicate.
So soft.
So fragile.
Dare I say...snowflakes?
https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/statu...
The fundamental underpinning of the fake outrage is simple.
The MAGA world wants the freedom to attack, insult, demean, and abuse anyone who doesn’t aggressively worship Donald Trump.
They can’t stand anyone who punches back, and hope they can intimidate or shame me.
At the top of the pyramid are the Trump email grifters and Fox News outrage hustlers. They recognize that all that is left inside the Republican Party as an ideology is a hatred of elites and the media.
Sorry. No participation trophies here for MAGAs.
They hope that they can shield their bad behavior, pathologies, willful ignorance, weaknesses, credulity, nature, and worship of Donald Trump behind a “how dare you talk down to me” anger without response.
https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/statu...
The most beautiful part of this entirely contrived phony bullshit outrage about that segment isn’t that I insulted the Maga demo.
The best part is how they’re repeating the now-classic #UCrane bit and amplifying a line that clearly made @realDonaldTrump furious.
https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/statu...
My FAVORITE conceit from #UCrane from Trump fluffers goes something like this:
"Well, NOW that you've insulted my honor, I TOTALLY voting for Trump in 2020. I was on the fence, but you elitists pushed me to Trump!"
Uh huh. NO one who is engaged in this fauxrage was on the fence.
https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/statu...
Let's also remember what this Trump-right Douchebag Ouroboros frenzy is REALLY about.
What *really* rattled Trump is that I went on the air and said he couldn't find Ukraine on a map.
He hates being caught out on his ignorance, and *that' is what triggered this whole thing.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Conini ::
Ljubček, ti začni spreljat nasprotno stran. Tam so vsakodnevno salve smeha o norcih progresivnih.
VaeVictis ::
Trump unveils Mideast plan
Trump unveils 'realistic two-state solution' for Middle East peace
Trump said the plan includes:
Jerusalem as Israel’s “undivided” capital but with a potential Palestinian capital in eastern sections of the city.
A route for Palestinian statehood that would “more that double Palestinian territory”, without specifying what territory he was referring to.
Lead to “1m” new jobs for Palestinians.
The recognition of Israeli settlements on occupied Palestinian territory as part of the country.
Trump unveils 'realistic two-state solution' for Middle East peace
Trump said the plan includes:
Jerusalem as Israel’s “undivided” capital but with a potential Palestinian capital in eastern sections of the city.
A route for Palestinian statehood that would “more that double Palestinian territory”, without specifying what territory he was referring to.
Lead to “1m” new jobs for Palestinians.
The recognition of Israeli settlements on occupied Palestinian territory as part of the country.
jype7 ::
Tole zadnjo alinejo bo zelo težko spravil skozi. Če mu uspe, mu privzdignem klobuk, ne glede na to kakšen kreten je.
Fritz ::
A route for Palestinian statehood that would “more that double Palestinian territory”, without specifying what territory he was referring to.
Verjetno na račun Jordanije, Libanona ali Sirije. Naj kar sanja naprej.
Sicer je pa jasno za koga dela:
So @realDonaldTrump confesses he has been working for Israel to destabilise the Middle East: I have done a lot for #Israel: Giving Jerusalem, the Golan Heights and leaving the nuclear deal (with #Iran).
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
Pac-Man ::
Ljubček, ti začni spreljat nasprotno stran. Tam so vsakodnevno salve smeha o norcih progresivnih.
Da, SJW znajo bit nadležni. MAGA scena je na daleč toksično možata, ko rečeš kako besedo "narobe" se pa stopijo hitreje kot tisti na nasprotnem polu. In tej neiskrenosti se smejimo.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
jype7 ::
Urbano#Desno ::
Boljse vprasanje za vas bi bilo kje so robcki v akciji da si naredite zalogo za november. 🙃
Leaker49 ::
Pac-Man ::
HOWTO
https://twitter.com/RadioFreeTom/status...
Democrats, don't take the bait over the fake outrage about @TheRickWilson's TV hit. No one is going to suddenly vote for Trump because they're mad at Rick. Those were already in the bag. Trump's support is baked into the cake, and your only goal is to win back 4 or 5 states. The fact that the President himself is trying to floor the pedal on outrage means he know it works. Your response should not be *more* outrage, it should be ice-cold discipline to increase the vote among people who - quietly - basically *agree* with Rick. There are many. The red-hat "fuck your feelings" MAGA nuts scare their fellow citizens more than many of them admit. There's a lot of votes in those five or six states in the burbs, among women, minorities, the educated. Your only goal is not to scare them more than Trump scares them already.
Many of you seem determined to blow this by matching Trump's rage with someone like Sanders or Warren. That's understandable, but dumb. People are tired of being unnerved by this guy and his goons. Your *base* wants to fight, but so does Trump. And he's better at it than you.
Let the Never Trumpers like Rick and the rest of us strip the bark off Trump. (It's practically a literary art form now.) It's a way of making Trump and his minions show themselves and it flushes the MAGA hate mobs out into the open. That helps you, if you use it wisely. But don't try to match Trump's rage machine with a ragier candidate and a rage-filled campaign. He's better funded and can put out more wattage than you can. Trump is praying you get into a poo-flinging match with him. Ask Rubio and the others who tried and failed.
I know you'll say your base needs to be "energized." if they're not "energized" after the past three months, to say nothing of the past three years, Sanders waving his finger in the air about plans he will never manage to enact will not solve that problem. Build a coalition, and fund a turnout effort, not a battle machine. Get to 270. Ignore the rest of the noise. No one cares if California cranks out a 5 million vote plurality. Let Trump be his own worst enemy, every day, and let your candidate be the guy who can get to 270. Call Steyer and Bloomberg and tell them to start doing anti-Trump ad buys that will speak across a wide spectrum of voters. Do not go negative on Bernie; it only helps him. Let Iowa and NH do what they always do and just move on to SC.
Do this and save the country.
Thank you for coming to my Never Trumper Dem Pep Talk.
https://twitter.com/RadioFreeTom/status...
Democrats, don't take the bait over the fake outrage about @TheRickWilson's TV hit. No one is going to suddenly vote for Trump because they're mad at Rick. Those were already in the bag. Trump's support is baked into the cake, and your only goal is to win back 4 or 5 states. The fact that the President himself is trying to floor the pedal on outrage means he know it works. Your response should not be *more* outrage, it should be ice-cold discipline to increase the vote among people who - quietly - basically *agree* with Rick. There are many. The red-hat "fuck your feelings" MAGA nuts scare their fellow citizens more than many of them admit. There's a lot of votes in those five or six states in the burbs, among women, minorities, the educated. Your only goal is not to scare them more than Trump scares them already.
Many of you seem determined to blow this by matching Trump's rage with someone like Sanders or Warren. That's understandable, but dumb. People are tired of being unnerved by this guy and his goons. Your *base* wants to fight, but so does Trump. And he's better at it than you.
Let the Never Trumpers like Rick and the rest of us strip the bark off Trump. (It's practically a literary art form now.) It's a way of making Trump and his minions show themselves and it flushes the MAGA hate mobs out into the open. That helps you, if you use it wisely. But don't try to match Trump's rage machine with a ragier candidate and a rage-filled campaign. He's better funded and can put out more wattage than you can. Trump is praying you get into a poo-flinging match with him. Ask Rubio and the others who tried and failed.
I know you'll say your base needs to be "energized." if they're not "energized" after the past three months, to say nothing of the past three years, Sanders waving his finger in the air about plans he will never manage to enact will not solve that problem. Build a coalition, and fund a turnout effort, not a battle machine. Get to 270. Ignore the rest of the noise. No one cares if California cranks out a 5 million vote plurality. Let Trump be his own worst enemy, every day, and let your candidate be the guy who can get to 270. Call Steyer and Bloomberg and tell them to start doing anti-Trump ad buys that will speak across a wide spectrum of voters. Do not go negative on Bernie; it only helps him. Let Iowa and NH do what they always do and just move on to SC.
Do this and save the country.
Thank you for coming to my Never Trumper Dem Pep Talk.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
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