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D3m0r4l1z3d ::
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Tepe ji pač, da so izdali p/w izdelke letos, kar je konkurenca že 2014 imela, preko tega ne morejo kar tako cigumigu, še posebej, ker so na 14nm to dosegli, kar je še toliko slabše
Slabše? navi gtx 960 da bo izenačen performance v dx12 in vulcan z rx 460 in poročaj o porabi, trenutno je 73w vs 119w v prid rx 460.
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I don't know ... AMD might have sliced and diced away too much for the Radeon RX 460? I had hopes for a bit more bite in the 1080P gaming domain with proper image quality settings and based on that 4 GB of graphics memory. Effectively however the RX 460 is substantially and often more then half slower compared to the RX 470.
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I don't know ... AMD might have sliced and diced away too much for the Radeon RX 460? I had hopes for a bit more bite in the 1080P gaming domain with proper image quality settings and based on that 4 GB of graphics memory. Effectively however the RX 460 is substantially and often more then half slower compared to the RX 470.
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D3m ::
D3m0r4l1z3d je izjavil:
Tepe ji pač, da so izdali p/w izdelke letos, kar je konkurenca že 2014 imela, preko tega ne morejo kar tako cigumigu, še posebej, ker so na 14nm to dosegli, kar je še toliko slabše
Zdaj smo že na 2014?
Jutri bo rekel, da so končno na ravni 2006 grafičnih.
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D3m0r4l1z3d ::
Maxwell 1 v začetku 2014, Maxwell 2 septembra 2014, kaj bi to rad zdaj?
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D3m ::
Guru3D - Final Words
Entry level gamers that play older games will gave a great time with the product value for money wise. Also if you are on a steep budget and are willing to forfeit in image quality, 1080P gaming will be possible.
Entry level gamers that play older games will gave a great time with the product value for money wise. Also if you are on a steep budget and are willing to forfeit in image quality, 1080P gaming will be possible.
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D3m0r4l1z3d ::
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m0LN4r ::
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Entry level gamers that play older games will gave a great time with the product value for money wise. Also if you are on a steep budget and are willing to forfeit in image quality, 1080P gaming will be possible.
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D3m0r4l1z3d ::
http://www.techspot.com/review/1221-amd...
Curiously, the overclocked power consumption of the 7790 and 260X are virtually identical to the RX 460. Given more time, I would have liked to conduct additional testing, but based on what I've seen so far for the type of games the RX 460 is designed to play, the 4th Generation GCN architecture provides very little over what AMD offered back in 2013 for only $150.
Having minimal headroom for overclocking hurts the RX 460's value to someone who wants the most out of their money. We struggled to stabilize a 9% overclock on the RX 460 while the GTX 950 can be pushed by almost 30% before sweating it.
Curiously, the overclocked power consumption of the 7790 and 260X are virtually identical to the RX 460. Given more time, I would have liked to conduct additional testing, but based on what I've seen so far for the type of games the RX 460 is designed to play, the 4th Generation GCN architecture provides very little over what AMD offered back in 2013 for only $150.
Having minimal headroom for overclocking hurts the RX 460's value to someone who wants the most out of their money. We struggled to stabilize a 9% overclock on the RX 460 while the GTX 950 can be pushed by almost 30% before sweating it.
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Napajalc ::
A nam še linkaš kako se kaj odrežeta v cf in sli načinu.
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Ne najdem, ampak dveh low mainstream kartic se ne splača vezat v pare
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Napajalc ::
In kaj je narobe, če imaš danes eno gtx 750 ali gtx 950 in z bolhe vzameš šeno za drobiš in "poskušaš" dat v sli? Skupni imenovalec je znan.
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Napajalc ::
Druge tako ali tako ni, bolj me skrbi če bojo prepakiral polizdelek.
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m0LN4r ::
Glede na to, da tudi 460ka ni prinesla vsaj 280x performance za 150€ bo nvidia gladko naredila isto.
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D3m ::
Se pa veliko praičakuje za mali čip.
Vsaj polnega Polaris 11 bi lahko pustili.
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Napajalc ::
Glede na to, da tudi 460ka ni prinesla vsaj 280x performance za 150€ bo nvidia gladko naredila isto.
Kaj pa naj naredi nvidija? gtx 1050 z večjim performensom kot gtx 1060 da ujame rx 470 z dx 12 in vulcan?
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m0LN4r ::
Glede na to, da tudi 460ka ni prinesla vsaj 280x performance za 150€ bo nvidia gladko naredila isto.
Kaj pa naj naredi nvidija? gtx 1050 z večjim performensom kot gtx 1060 da ujame rx 470 z dx 12 in vulcan?
Kje tocneje ?
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D3m0r4l1z3d ::
vau, Mlacom bo 16.8. imel 480 nitro+ 8gb samo za 15 eur več kot mindfactory, kar pomeni, da s slo poštnino in de poštnino na koncu ena in ista cena, pohvalno
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m0LN4r ::
Jst bi za vsak slucaj se danes narocil, da nebo na koncu popravljena cena oz. 4GB xD
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tikitoki ::
In kaj je narobe, če imaš danes eno gtx 750 ali gtx 950 in z bolhe vzameš šeno za drobiš in "poskušaš" dat v sli? Skupni imenovalec je znan.
Ker nisi noob in ves kaksni so problemi. Skoraj boljse da pozneje na bolhi za drobiz kupis 480, prodas karkoli ze imas, nisi financno na bistveno slabsem, brez dvoma pa se izognes veliko problemom.
Da ne govorimo, da si ze v startu moral kupiti drazjo maticno plosco, kar bi lahko raje investiral v malenkost bolsji GPU ali pa dal na kup za poznejso nadgradnjo. Pr tolk low end sistemu je to ze pomemben faktor.
Cveto ::
Mah, jaz sem vedno razmišljal da bom naredil tako, pa sem potem raje prodal in vzel eno močnejšo kartico: 4850->5850->7950. Živim že nekaj časa lepo z 650W Corsair napajalnikom in se mi ne da razmišljat še o tem ali bi speljal dve kartici.
Na srečo se da pri nas grafične kartice še dokaj dobro prodati in se da tako handlati. Glede na te nove kartice bom zdaj itak verjetno raje počakal, saj v rangu dobri 200 eur ne vidim kartice z 2x zmogljivostjo 7950.
IMO se SLI CF splača samo tam, kamor z eno kartico ne moreš, torej 1070 in naprej (1070SLI je hitreje od 1080, ne vem pa kako je z 1060SLI).
Na srečo se da pri nas grafične kartice še dokaj dobro prodati in se da tako handlati. Glede na te nove kartice bom zdaj itak verjetno raje počakal, saj v rangu dobri 200 eur ne vidim kartice z 2x zmogljivostjo 7950.
IMO se SLI CF splača samo tam, kamor z eno kartico ne moreš, torej 1070 in naprej (1070SLI je hitreje od 1080, ne vem pa kako je z 1060SLI).
SuperVeloce ::
1060 SLI bi bila mogoče res ravno okoli 1080, ampak SLI tukaj ni. Samo DX12 pride tukaj v upoštev.
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D3m0r4l1z3d ::
In to se zgodi, ko imajo dedicated RTG s Kodurijem na čelu, kako to sploh možno. Saj ne vpliva na userje, ampak vseeno, wtf?
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D3m0r4l1z3d ::
Kot, da je to pomembno.
Sem pričakoval kaj drugega.
Ampak se ti ne zdi mal smešno, da se ravno pri tej stvari zakomplicira?
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D3m ::
In koliko ljudi bo prizadetih???
Gledaš pri vsaki grafični PCI-SIG?
Ne. Potlej je stvar nepomembna.
Spike pa tudi ne gledajo pri PCI-SIG
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Gledaš pri vsaki grafični PCI-SIG?
Ne. Potlej je stvar nepomembna.
Spike pa tudi ne gledajo pri PCI-SIG
The list is compiled for hardware devices implementing the various PCI-Express specifications to the letter
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D3m0r4l1z3d ::
Čist tako pač, dokler vse grafe preko pcie furajo, se mi zdi to skrajno čudno, kako lahko rtg-ju to rata
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D3m0r4l1z3d ::
Kje je zdaj to:
It's not every day that we get GPUs with 2.5x better perf/watt, in fact not ever. This is the biggest jump from one generation to the next that we have ever seen. But it's not all about efficiency, Raja is also promising the "most revolutionary jump in performance so far".
AMD announced that Polaris graphics cards are going to be released mid 2016, so this summer. AMD's CEO Lisa Su then elaborated further, saying that Polaris graphics cards are to be expected on shelves and in notebooks before the back to school season this year.
2.5x never ever
It's not every day that we get GPUs with 2.5x better perf/watt, in fact not ever. This is the biggest jump from one generation to the next that we have ever seen. But it's not all about efficiency, Raja is also promising the "most revolutionary jump in performance so far".
AMD announced that Polaris graphics cards are going to be released mid 2016, so this summer. AMD's CEO Lisa Su then elaborated further, saying that Polaris graphics cards are to be expected on shelves and in notebooks before the back to school season this year.
2.5x never ever
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DarwiN ::
Jah, tko je, ko pretiravaš najprej pri performancu, tako da primerjaš pod nekimi biased optimalnimi okoliščinami; potem pa še vzameš uradnih 150W TDPja, pa ko vsi vemo, kako je bilo to zavajujoče. Potem skupaj nanese 2.5X, namesto realnih 1.75X, mogoče.
Trenutno AMDja pač ni za kupit v nobenem segmentu, razen mogoče RX 460 v najnižjem razredu.. RX 470 in 480 sta enostavno predragi zaradi pomanjkanja zalog.. GTX 1060 3/6Gb je enostavno boljša kartica po celi črti, tistih 1 oz. 2Gb rama gor ali dol. Polaris mora bit ~20EUR cenejši od Pascala. Rx480 8gb AIB torej ~250EUR, Rx470 4Gb AIB pa ~190EUR. No, slednjo se že dobi za 200EUR.
Trenutno AMDja pač ni za kupit v nobenem segmentu, razen mogoče RX 460 v najnižjem razredu.. RX 470 in 480 sta enostavno predragi zaradi pomanjkanja zalog.. GTX 1060 3/6Gb je enostavno boljša kartica po celi črti, tistih 1 oz. 2Gb rama gor ali dol. Polaris mora bit ~20EUR cenejši od Pascala. Rx480 8gb AIB torej ~250EUR, Rx470 4Gb AIB pa ~190EUR. No, slednjo se že dobi za 200EUR.
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D3m ::
Jah, tko je, ko pretiravaš najprej pri performancu, tako da primerjaš pod nekimi biased optimalnimi okoliščinami; potem pa še vzameš uradnih 150W TDPja, pa ko vsi vemo, kako je bilo to zavajujoče. Potem skupaj nanese 2.5X, namesto realnih 1.75X, mogoče.
Trenutno AMDja pač ni za kupit v nobenem segmentu, razen mogoče RX 460 v najnižjem razredu.. RX 470 in 480 sta enostavno predragi zaradi pomanjkanja zalog.. GTX 1060 3/6Gb je enostavno boljša kartica po celi črti, tistih 1 oz. 2Gb rama gor ali dol. Polaris mora bit ~20EUR cenejši od Pascala. Rx480 8gb AIB torej ~250EUR, Rx470 4Gb AIB pa ~190EUR. No, slednjo se že dobi za 200EUR.
O rly?
Potlej se splača 8800 GTS 512MB po tvojem mišljenju.
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DarwiN ::
Katero pa bi potem ti priporočal? Link?
IMO pride samo ta 470tka blizu smiselnemu nakupu. To je to.
IMO pride samo ta 470tka blizu smiselnemu nakupu. To je to.
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DarwiN ::
September je tu, Polarisa 480 pa še kar ni na spregled. No, neki XFX in Sapphire se dobijo, ampak za bolanih ~300€. Asus 4Gb je sicer tukaj, a kaj ko je 1060tka 3Gb boljša in hkrati cenejša.
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PredatorX ::
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tale ponudba postavi GTX 1060 3GB.
In kot prvič bi lahko vedel, da je ASUS nekak dal na RX 470/80 bol crap coolerje.
tale ponudba postavi GTX 1060 3GB.
In kot prvič bi lahko vedel, da je ASUS nekak dal na RX 470/80 bol crap coolerje.
DarwiN ::
Jaz sem govoril za 480tke... Pri 470tkah je stanje mogoče malo boljše, čeprav še vedno ne vidim, zakaj bi kdorkoli (razen za freesync) kupil 470, ko je vendar slabša od 1060@3gb v vseh pogledih.. Tudi če odmisliva DX11 in rečeva, da sta enako/podobno zmogljivi, ti še vedno ostane višja poraba in hrup pri 470tki.
Gainward 1060@3Gb potemtakem.
Gainward 1060@3Gb potemtakem.
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PredatorX ::
Jaz sem govoril za 480tke... Pri 470tkah je stanje mogoče malo boljše, čeprav še vedno ne vidim, zakaj bi kdorkoli (razen za freesync) kupil 470, ko je vendar slabša od 1060@3gb v vseh pogledih.. Tudi če odmisliva DX11 in rečeva, da sta enako/podobno zmogljivi, ti še vedno ostane višja poraba in hrup pri 470tki.
Gainward 1060@3Gb potemtakem.
V vseh pogledih no dej mi povej?
V starejših špilih je 10% počasnejša od GTX 1060... v novejših pa je celo hitrejša.
Ne ti men kazat 15 NVIDIA špilov al pa špilov iz leta 2007-2013... pokaž mi 5 najnovejših.
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m0LN4r ::
Kaj pa bos potem sploh spilal, ce vse to crtas ?
Potem sploh ne rabis grafe
Potem sploh ne rabis grafe
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D3m0r4l1z3d ::
Težko, da je 3GB boljša v vseh pogledih
V srednjem razredu sigurno, žal za 4gb Fury v visokem to ni veljalo
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Saj niti ne moreš tehnično primerjati 1060 3GB z masivnim Fury X.
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tikitoki ::
September je tu, Polarisa 480 pa še kar ni na spregled. No, neki XFX in Sapphire se dobijo, ampak za bolanih ~300€. Asus 4Gb je sicer tukaj, a kaj ko je 1060tka 3Gb boljša in hkrati cenejša.
GTX 1060 ni avtomaticno bolsji od RX 470 4 gb, od kje ti to? Tom rider je NVIDIA game in ga Radeon poseka, domnevmo zaradi premalo rama na GTX.
D3m0r4l1z3d ::
Saj niti ne moreš tehnično primerjati 1060 3GB z masivnim Fury X.
Točno tako, pa ima samo 1gb več.
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