Bowling for Columbine

Je kdo gledal ta fenomenalen dokumentarec?

Zelo priporočam ogled.Osrednje vprašanje je zakaj je v Ameriki več umorov kot pa v kateri koli drugi državi na svetu. Celotna podoba resničnega življenja v ZDA je realno predstavljena, saj so dokumentarec naredili Američani.
Če ste ga že gledali bi vas prosil za mnenja.

uradna stran

Zakon, res zakon, ko se videl trailer sem takoj zdownloadal cel DVDSCR XviD.

Una animacija ki so jo naredili uni avtorji South Parka je najboj zakon.

Ameri so totalni bedaki, ni kej.

ferjan,

Vzemi kar vse umore. Najbrž s polaganjem strupenjač v posteljo žrtve, pa vodijo v Avstraliji. Pa kaj?




Umor je umor. O tem sem že dost povedal. Pa kako je v negativni korelaciji s samomori. Delno tudi z nesrečami. Kot da se biološka agresivnost vedno sproža.


Mogoče še to, da v Kanadi je umorov 3,3 krat manj. In ne več kot 6X, kot je v filmu. Zanimivo - a ne? Pa da v filmu tudi ni omenjeno, da število ropov je pa v Kanadi 2X večje.


picknik in hlodek,

Ameri so zviti. Posnamejo takle neumn film in od suckerjev vlečejo dolarčke z njim.

Tole.

Posebno si oglej diagrame.

A ga je res gledalo tako malo ljudi?

Tisti ki ste ga pa, a ni risanka o zgodovini belcev ki so naselili Ameriko ubitačna?

Utopičnega proameričana ki še ni bil v ZDA bi pa prosil da obdrži svoje proameriške fobije zase. Ta film so naredili prebivalci ZDA in ne teroristi. Flash intro uradne strani ne laže. Ko bi vsaj videl ta film. Prosim te tudi da mi v prihodnje ne kvariš threadov.

hlodek,

Ta film so naredili prebivalci ZDA in ne teroristi...

halo???

Bowling for Columbine (2002)
Summary: Highly Significant Documentary

Every now and then a documentary comes along which transcends being merely informative to actually being thought provoking and challenging.

"Bowling for Columbine" is such a work. Michael Moore has done a superlative job of bringing together much factual material and presenting it in such a way that constantly engages the intellect as well as emotions.

His challenge to us is to abandon the abject stupidity of fear consciousness: ceasing to be be duped by "fear-mongers" trying to profit from "fear-tactics."

The documentary reveals how the news media flocked to a "sniper scene" in America which involved some dozen "victims," while only hours before, hundreds of our "foreign" brethren were being targeted by US bombs.

As long as it doesn't happen here, we can blithely turn away our attention and concern--seems to be a message conveyed by this powerful film.

All this results in a beefing up of "security," manifest by locking our doors, while cameras and other type of equipment is in force. This is in sharp contrast to our friendly neighbors to the north, who conversely consider such actions as actually locking themselves in, rather than keeping "intruders" out; they in turn not only keep doors unlocked, but actually place "Welcome Mats" on their front stoops.

And why not? Isn't the later the way it should be? For what are "security" devices but the result of fear? Moore's documentary points out the violence of America's past, from early settlers through the past century's civic clashes. The result is a fragmented society of "we" and "them," of "inner city" vs. "suburban" dichotomies, and of movement toward a more de facto "class" than "homogenized" societal system.

So we have communities in which citizens buy ammunition at local family stores, then use it to "down" their own neighbors.

In dealing with the more bloody and shameful aspects of American history, Moore wisely shifts to cartoon depictions--yet this stylization somehow makes the horrors even more biting (as does his use of "smooth" pop songs underneath the graphic depictions of inhumanity).

As a result, these images and messages tend to remain in the memory long after viewing the film. They tend to persist and won't easily go away. This is as it should be, for we have a good deal to account for in terms of our own pursuit of violence.

It's long time that we reassess ourselves and become much more revisionary in our outlook and actions. The less we buy into violence, the more it will disappear. "Bowling for Columbine" is a major leap toward helping to achieve that objective.

(sic) : prosim da malo razmišljaš. Ni vse kar se vrti po televiziji film.
Če pa ne znaš več ločit med filmom in realnostjo, ti priporočam da greš malo ven iz hiše med ljudi. ne s takimi izjavami, ker kažejo samo obup ...ahh. kaj čem sploh pisat..

Michael Moore, the left's Rush Limbaugh, is back with another glib, satirical documentary that fudges facts, makes facile points and engages in the cinematic equivalent of tabloid journalism. But unlike Moore's other problematic documentaries ("Roger and Me," "The Big One"), "Bowling for Columbine," which assails America's gun culture, is also a complete mess, without any coherent point of view.

Its starting point is the 1999 Columbine high school massacre, where two students shot to death 12 of their peers and a teacher in Littleton, Colorado--which Moore rightfully feels is emblematic of the whole gun problem. But "Bowling for Columbine" doesn't stay with that potent theme. It's also an unfunny diatribe against other obvious targets, including American imperialism, racism and welfare--threads woven awkwardly into Moore's main assault against guns and those who use and promote them.

It's scattershot filmmaking, seemingly directed by a five-year-old with attention deficit disorder. It's also often simplistic. The real tragedy of Columbine wasn't the guns but the alienation and ostracism felt by the killers--feelings that drove them to commit their heinous act in the first place. Moore knows this--and rock star Marilyn Manson states that in the movie--but the director prefers heat to light, and would rather ambush the likes of National Rifle Association president Charlton Heston than delve too deeply into the motivations of the murderers. It's also much easier to link American military adventures abroad to the violent American gun culture, even though the example Moore uses, the bombing of Kosovo, was a NATO exercise. The most embarrassing, idiotic scenes in the movie, in which Moore seriously contends that Canadians don't lock their doors or have to deal with violent crime, are equally faulty. Certainly, there's a trenchant, relevant movie to be made about the unique American relationship to firearms but, despite a few comic highlights, such as Moore's visit to a bank that gives out guns when you open an account, "Bowling For Columbine" is emphatically not that film.


Shlomo Schwartzberg, BOXOFFICE MAGAZINE

To ni dokumentarec. To je "dokumentarec s prirejenimi dejstvi".

Producenti so pač računali na hvaležno antiameriško publiko, ki ga bo gledala z veseljem.

Kakorkoli, če bo film v slovenskih kinematografih, bo 'mladina' navalila. Sovraštvo do Američanov bo še večje. Prav tako bodo Američani še bolj glupi Američani.

Enako seveda drugod po svetu...

Simko!

Hja ... tako je to.

Iracionalizem (in neznanje osnovnega računstva) na pohodu.

Žal.

Osrednje vprašanje je zakaj je v Ameriki vec umorov kot pa v kateri koli drugi državi na svetu

no comment...

... in kot simpsoni predstavljajo tipicno amerisko druzino, in kot futurama predstavlja prihodnost zda... a ne???

pujcek

speacker:

prosim da malo razmišljaš. Ni vse kar se vrti po televiziji film.
Če pa ne znaš več ločit med filmom in realnostjo, ti priporočam da greš malo ven iz hiše med ljudi. ne s takimi izjavami, ker kažejo samo obup ...ahh. kaj čem sploh pisat..

Pa kaj zdaj, če je realnost - me prav boli kurac za vse druge razen mene... Kaj sem rekel, sem rekel - meni je bil dober tale (za mene) FILM! Kot je tudi Thomas povedal pa je tale film narejen za (težke) anti amere, ki itak verajmejo o ZDA vse kar vidijo na TVju. Naj naredi en Kanadčan en dokumentarec zakaj je tam več brezposelnosti kot v ZDA, če pa je tam vse tako "popolno"...

še to...verjamem da bi te zabavala, samo da se dogaja drugje..
če pa bi se moral iti bojevat pa verjetno ne..
mogoče se pa motim...

kako naj povem... hmm Bližje je, lepše je?

točka 1
Ko pride do takih neljubih dogodkov, ni potrebno biti genij, da ugotoviš, da je nekaj narobe.

točka 2
Za koga je film posnet, je nepomembno. Sporno je lahko zgolj prikazovanje dogodkov, dejstev.

točka 3
Kaj v filmu je izmišlotina oziroma izkrivljeno prikazovanje. Ne pravim, da ni nič. Vprašam kaj je.

točka 4
Ako sem prav razumel, film govori o smrtnih žrtvah povzročenih s strelnim orožjem. Ne o brezposelnosti...(BTW v 8 letih se je pod demokrati odprlo 20 mil delovnih mest, pod bušem pa sejih je 2 mil zaprlo)

točka 5
Dokler bodo bedaki s planeta opic skandirali in mahali z orožjem, ne bo nič bolje. Ampak po mojem so taki bebci zgolj marionete orožarske ind..

LP

P.S. Če je takšno stanje za njih sprejemljivo, pa se naj iztrebijo! Meni, ravno!

LOL

ignorance is bliss