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Legalno ali nelegalno?

Legalno ali nelegalno?

Suhy ::

Ali lahko podjetje kupi 20 licenc neke programske opreme, potem pa te programe proda naprej drugim podjetjem? (na licenci bo zaradi skupnega nakupa zapisano prvo podjetje in ne končni kupci)

Meizu ::

Ne sme.

Edit: Razen če ima dogovor s proizvajalcem, da potem prodaja zadevo naprej.

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Ziga Dolhar ::

Prvenstveno vprašanje pogodbe med proizvajalcem in kupcem.
https://dolhar.si/

Suhy ::

a je kak zakon, ki govori o tem, da se ne sme?
In kaj je razlog, da se ne sme?

Ker, primer. Jaz kupim en program, recimo Corel. Potem pa ugotovim, da je bullshit, in prešaltam na Adobe.. A potemtakem ne smem prodat Corel-a? Ga lahko samo stran vržem??

aja, in ali je kak organ pri nas, ki bi lahko podaj uradno izjavo glede tega?

Ziga Dolhar ::

Še enkrat:

Prvenstveno vprašanje pogodbe med proizvajalcem in kupcem.
https://dolhar.si/

subby ::

zdi se mi da ni nobenega zakona proti temu, da ti prodajaš rabljen izdelek, kar je v tem primeru corel

Meizu ::

>>A potemtakem ne smem prodat Corel-a? Ga lahko samo stran vržem??<<

Takšne verzije lahko prodaš (če gre za pač home userja). Da bi pa ti kot podjetje kupoval multilicenco in jo potem prodajal vnaprej, pa mislim, da ne gre tako enostavno... No, vsaj slišal še nisem za kaj podobnega.

Ziga Dolhar ::

Problem je, da to ni le "izdelek", ampak tudi avtorsko delo, ki lahko vsebuje še mnoge druge produkte, ki so zaščiteni kot industrijska lastnina (npr. patenti).
https://dolhar.si/

BigWhale ::

Nakup programske opreme je cedalje bolj nakup storitve. Gre v koncni fazi za EULA, pogodbo med prodajalcem in kupcem.

Kaj vse pa lahko prodajalec taj not napise, da je stvar se vedno legalna je pa vprasanje in tudi vprasljiva je veljavnost take 'one click' pogodbe.

zcetrt ::

V nekaterih primerih je v pogodbi celo zapisano, da se program kupi za uporabo dotične osebe. Konkretno sem zadnjič bral pogodbo nekega programskega glasbila, kjer lahko uporablja program le kupec. Če imaš zadevo nameščeno na računalniku v studiju, je ne smeš dati v najem, recimo. Takisto je zapisano, da ni dovoljena prodaja "rabljene" licence.

Tako da se bo treba res pozanimati pri proizvajalcu programske opreme.
4.

Suhy ::

hm... tole je men mal čudno vse skupi.... Kaj lahko kdo najde, kje piše v License Agreement-u, da ne smem tega počet?

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For information on distributing the evaluation version of program see the section titled Evaluation License.

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You may access the licensed version of program through a network, provided that you have obtained individual licenses for the software covering all workstations that will access the software through the network. For instance, if 10 different workstations will access program on the network, each workstation must have its own program license, regardless of whether they use program at different times or concurrently. In this case you would purchase a 10-user license.

You may use the licensed version of program as a hub to copy files from one computer connected on the network to another computer connected on the network, provided that you have obtained individual licenses for the software covering all computers that will be accessed by the hub.

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Disclaimer of Warranty
THIS SOFTWARE AND THE ACCOMPANYING FILES ARE SOLD "AS IS" AND WITHOUT WARRANTIES AS TO PERFORMANCE OR MERCHANTABILITY OR ANY OTHER WARRANTIES WHETHER EXPRESSED OR IMPLIED. Because of the various hardware and software environments into which program may be put, NO WARRANTY OF FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE IS OFFERED.

Good data processing procedure dictates that any program be thoroughly tested with non-critical data before relying on it. The user must assume the entire risk of using the program. ANY LIABILITY OF THE SELLER WILL BE LIMITED EXCLUSIVELY TO PRODUCT REPLACEMENT OR REFUND OF PURCHASE PRICE WITHIN 30 DAYS OF PURCHASE.

In no event shall XYZ be liable for any incidental, consequential, or punitive damages whatsoever relating to the use of program, or your relationship with XYZ.

This Agreement is the complete statement of the Agreement between the parties on the subject matter, and merges and supersedes all other or prior understandings, purchase orders, agreements and arrangements. This Agreement shall be governed by the laws of the State of Virginia. Exclusive jurisdiction and venue for all matters relating to this Agreement shall be in courts and fora located in the State of Virginia, and you consent to such jurisdiction and venue.

All rights of any kind in program which are not expressly granted in this License are entirely and exclusively reserved to and by XYZ. You may not rent, lease, modify, translate, reverse engineer, decompile, disassemble or create derivative works based on program. You may not make access to program available to others in connection with a service bureau, application service provider, or similar business, or use program in a business to provide file backup services to others.

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Evaluation and Licensing
This is not free software. You are hereby licensed to use this software for evaluation purposes without charge for a period of 30 days. If you use this software after the 30 day evaluation period a license fee is required as described in the section Ordering Information. When payment is received you will be sent a Serial Number, no software will be shipped.

Unlicensed use of program after the 30-day evaluation period is a violation of U.S. and international copyright laws.

Distribution
Provided that you verify that you are distributing the Evaluation Version you are hereby licensed to make as many copies of the Evaluation version of this software and documentation as you wish, give exact copies of the original Evaluation version to anyone, and distribute the Evaluation version of the software and documentation in its unmodified form via electronic means. There is no charge for any of the above.

You are specifically prohibited from charging, or requesting donations for any such copies, however made; and from distributing the software and/or documentation with other products (commercial or otherwise) without prior written permission. Disk Vendors approved by the Association of Shareware Professionals are permitted to redistribute program, subject to the conditions in this license, without specific written permission.

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Suhy ::

predvidevam de se nobenemu ne da brat teh klobas, ane? :(

Matek ::

Erm, ne vem od kje si to dobil, ampak po moje je keč ravno v tistem "podjetje kupi 20 komadov". Če kupi en posameznik v trgovini za polno ceno zadevo, je najbrž manj omejitev za prodajo dalje, podjetje pa kupi 20 kosov pod nekimi dodatnimi pogoji, zaradi katerih je vse skupaj ceneje in tudi bolj omejeno.

Seveda vse to čisto na pamet, kot so ti že povedali je odvisno izključno od pogodbe, ampak bi pričakoval, da sem vsaj približno zadel.
Bolje ispasti glup nego iz aviona.

poweroff ::

Problem je v tem, da ti ne kupiš izdelka, pač pa z licenco kupiš (omejeno) pravico do uporabe. Izdelek torej ni tvoj, kupil si le pravico, da ga pod določenimi pogoji smeš uporabljati.

Osnove copyrighta fantje.
sudo poweroff


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