Microsoft - Microsoft se je odločil, da bo v Windows 8 predelal od temeljev do strehe. Po vrsti globokih konceptualnih sprememb, kot sta nov vmesnik Metro in izdaja verzije za ARM, so se namenili izvesti tudi kakšno bolj kozmetično. V Redmondu so se odločili, da se stari logotip Windows (okno v obliki zastave) po 20 letih poslavlja. Windows 8 bo imel nov, štirikotni okenski logotip, ki jim ga je pomagalo oblikovati podjetje Pentagram.
Windows 3.1, ki je izšel leta 1992, je prvikrat uporabljal barvni logotip, v katerem je okno v obliki zastave iz štirih raznobarvnih predelov. Do Windows XP je ta ostal bolj ali manj nespremenjen. V naslednjih verzijah je ogrodje ostalo enako, spremenile pa so se poteze in oblikovanje. Ker prinaša Windows 8 vrsto novosti, so želeli v Redmondu tudi nov logotip. Tako so po dvajsetih letih logotip v obliki zastave zamenjali za novega, ki je v marsičem pravzaprav podoben povsem prvemu iz Windows 1.0.
Update 02/17/12 @9:53 am: Just got a note from a very unexpected source (on the design side) that this is indeed the wrong release logo and that the proper one should be launched next week. Stay tuned.
zelo off-topic – ker je tale lepa slikica zgoraj tako primerna:
Jaz se večkrat sprašujem, kakšne energije se zbirajo v takšnih arhitekturnih čudežih? Ali to kaj vpliva na ljudi notri? Recimo da hodim sem notri v službo - nekako smo navajeni na prave kote – tu pa 8 ur gledam vse postrani. Strange.
"Namreč, da gre ta družba počasi v norost in da je vse, kar mi gledamo,
visoko organizirana bebavost, do podrobnosti izdelana idiotija."
Psiholog HUBERT POŽARNIK, v Oni, o smiselnosti moderne družbe...
Tudi meni izgleda, kot, da so se vrnili k izvirniku pri Windows 1.0. Seveda je zadeva malo pod kotom, a bistvo je isto.
Hrabri mišek (od 2015 nova serija!) -> http://tinyurl.com/na7r54l
18. november 2011 - Umrl je Mark Hall, "oče" Hrabrega miška
RTVSLO: http://tinyurl.com/74r9n7j
Developer Preview je z miško obupen, baje pa bo pri Consumer Preview to dosti izboljšano.
Sicer pa bi raje videl, da se za miško in tipkovnico ohrani star vmesnik, ker ta metro je narejen za touch, potem pa malo spremenjen, da za silo deluje z miško.
Če bi Microsoft hotel imeti touch-only aplikacije bi upscalal windows phone.
Tako je pa CEL POINT Windows 8 aplikacij, da delajo hkrati na touch in na tipkovnico/miško. In to je gledanje na prihodnost, vedno več naprav bo imelo touch, vendar bodo vedno nekatere, ki ga ne bodo imele, oziroma bo uporabnik toliko stran, da bo vseeno raje uporabil miško. In je res priročno, da ti ni treba imet različne aplikacije, da imaš vedno iste.
Just got a note from a very unexpected source (on the design side) that this is indeed the wrong release logo and that the proper one should be launched next week. Stay tuned.
Kaj boš s tem pridobil nevem... Aplikacije, ki jih zdaj uporabljaš, bodo delale tudi v windows 8. Obratno pa ne verjamem, da bo šlo. Obljubjajo pa hitrejši zagonski čas, kar je en lep bonus.
Miška prav lepo dela na metro: vertikalno pomikanje s koleščkom dela, za horizontalno so scroll bari. Preklop med aplikacijami dela z gesto, da potegneš od roba zaslona proti sredini(tudi na klasinem namizju). Premikanje elementov v metroju tudi dela.
S tipkovnico pa tudi: smerne tipke za pomikanje med ikonami , enter za izbiro, escape za nazaj, windows tipka za preklop med metro/klasičnim namizjem, če v metrotu pritisneš katerikoli znak se odpre iskanje. To sem ugotovil po 2 minutah testiranja.
To se je tut men zdel, ampak ko vidiš kako super deluje Metro GUI na telefonu si ne morš da si ga ne bi zaželel tut na PCju. V neki obliki seveda, ne za vsako ceno.
To se je tut men zdel, ampak ko vidiš kako super deluje Metro GUI na telefonu si ne morš da si ga ne bi zaželel tut na PCju. V neki obliki seveda, ne za vsako ceno.
Na telefonu deluje dobro. Na PCji pa je dobesedno drek.
Govorim vizualno, ker si ravno omenil da gre nazaj v 2D. Seveda ne sme biti cel sistem prenešen 1:1 ampak vizualno je pa ta kombinacija kvadratov in "prelomljenih" tekstov zmaga, najbližje temu na PCju je trenutno Zune software in sploh ni slab, velik boljši kot Windows media player. Za prenos na PC se bojo mogl pa potrudit, ne pa takoj zavračat ker je drugačno in s telefona prenešeno, če je od MSa ideja še ne pomen da je slaba.
Ne mešat funkcionalnosti in designa. UI design/koncept je isti na telefonu kot Windows 8, ni pa to povečava, daleč od tega. Windows 8 je narejen da ti na večjem ekranu tudi da več informacij, torej to kar dela desktop.
Edina funkcionalna razlika z desktopom je manj gumbov, ampak to se da tudi elegantno rešit z podmeniji, ne vidm problema naresti Metro photoshopa, ki je isto funkcionalen.
Nekako mam občutek, da vsi ti novi dizajni gredo stran od tega kar si jaz želim. Vse gre nekam na minimalizem kjer maš tistih 5-7 stvari na ekranu ostalo pa klikaš kot idiot. Dizajn kar si ga pa sam želim pa je pilotska kabina vse na dosego roke. Je pa res, da takega vmesnika se navadit je težko. Osebbno po videnih slikah mi metro ne ugaja in upam, da ga nebom rabil uporabljat.
When you look long into an abyss, the abyss looks into you
> Tako so po dvajsetih letih logotip v obliki zastave zamenjali za novega Meni ni všeč. Naj zamenjajo še ime OS v "Metro 1.0"
> Windows registry je fosil iz časov prastarih win 3.1 > Register je največje sranje, kar so ga uspeli narediti!
To je isto, kot da bi rekel, da so podatkovne baze zanič ...
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library... "The Transactional Registry (TxR) is built on the KTM infrastructure. TxR allows applications to perform registry operations in a transacted manner. A common scenario for using TxR is during software installation. TxF and TxR can participate in a shared transaction so that files are copied to the file system and information is stored in the registry as a single operation. If the installation fails or is canceled by the user, modifications to the file system and registry are discarded. TxR operations can participate in DTC transactions so changes to the registry can be coordinated with changes to SQL Server databases, NTFS, and any other resource manager that works with DTC."
http://lifehacker.com/5880876/de+mystif... "The registry is one of Windows' most confusing tools, but it can also be very powerful if you know what you're doing. The registry is, essentially, a hierarchical database that stores settings and preferences for nearly everything on your system, from drivers and services to your user passwords and user interface. In the old days, application preferences were stored in text files with the INI extension, and while some still are, they've been ditched for the faster, unified registry."
Čisto vse slabe lastnosti registra so v bistvu slabe lastnosti win32 programov, ker se jim dovoli vsako sranje počet na sistemu. In pol ga tut počnejo, tudi v registru.
Metro aplikacije bodo imeli veliko bolj omejen dostop in ne bodo mogle serat, pač na isti način kot Android in iOS že danes ne dovolita aplikacijam početi karkoli, ampak morajo izključno preko dogovorjenih APIjev dostopat.
Win 3.1, XP in 7 imajo zelo podoben logotip. - prave uspešnice Torej bo uspeh Win 8 takšen kot je bil pri Windows 1.0 - ga ne bo v pričakovani količini :-)
pa še to: nekoč smo hrepeneli po barvah na ekranu, zdaj pa gre vse v drugo smer, v neke odtenke sivine/modine, še logotipi se umikajo v retro look.
Ena kul knjiga na temo kromofobije :) http://www.amazon.com/Chromophobia-FOCI... "The central argument of Chromophobia is that a chromophobic impulse - a fear of corruption or contamination through color - lurks within much Western cultural and intellectual thought. This is apparent in the many and varied attempts to purge color, either by making it the property of some "foreign body" - the oriental, the feminine, the infantile, the vulgar, or the pathological - or by relegating it to the realm of the superficial, the supplementary, the inessential, or the cosmetic."
Win 3.1, XP in 7 imajo zelo podoben logotip. - prave uspešnice Torej bo uspeh Win 8 takšen kot je bil pri Windows 1.0 - ga ne bo v pričakovani količini :-)
1. It's a half-arsed implementation of a filesystem It's often said that the Registry is a "monolithic file", compared to storing configuration in lots of discrete files like, say, Unix does under /etc. This misses the point: the Registry is a filesystem. Sure it's stored in a file, but so is ext3 if you choose to store it in a loopback mount. The Registry binary format has all the aspects of a filesystem: things corresponding to directories, inodes, extended attributes etc.
The major difference is that this Registry filesystem format is half-arsed. The format is badly constructed, fragile, endian-specific, underspecified and slow. The format changes from release to release of Windows. Parts are undocumented, seemingly to the Windows developers themselves (judging by the NT debug symbols that one paper has reproduced). Parts of the format waste space, while in other parts silly "optimizations" are made to save a handful of bytes (at the cost of making access much more complex).
7. The Registry is a filesystem Back to point 1, the Registry is a half-assed, poor quality implementation of a filesystem. Importantly, it's not a database. It should be a database! It could benefit from indices to allow quick lookups, but instead we have to manually and linearly traverse it.
This leads to really strange Registry keys like:...
Notwithstanding the n times in which I tried to "convince" our resident programmers that the Windows Registry is a filesystem, and that thus a filesystem driver was the "right" way to access it, nothing was done about it.
Če je win registry po tvojem prava DB, zakaj potem iskanje z registry editorejem (po registru) traja ina traja in traja ? Zakaj ne moreš potem like SQl dobiti takoj kar te zanima ? http://www.w3schools.com/sql/sql_tryit....
zakaj MS raje ne uporabi prave SQL baze kot nekaj sedaj obksurnega, kar ni več ne tič ne miš ? Npr. tale 2MB (nameščen) palček http://locate32.net si naredi pravo DB, iskanje po TB diskovja traja manj kot sekundo.
Intelligent discussion about what is really wrong with the Registry seems to be scarce. This is a good start and there are some great comments here! I hope Microsoft is reading.
I've worked in some depth with the registry (on the roll-up-the-sleeves, mucking-it-out level) and here is my own list of problems I've noticed with it, some of them similar to stuff mentioned in the article and comments:
- The registry is "static." What I mean by that is that it typically has no provision for dynamic verification or re-registration of anything, because it depends on these babysitters called installers for its information (and makes the dangerous assumption that they are always right).
- The registry is "sedimentary." Thanks again to its reliance on installers firing off one-time additions of data that may or may not ever be re-examined, stuff "builds up over time," in layers as it were. To make matters worse, new layers can overwrite previous layers entirely. Meaning: the registry is un-journaled and un-versioned on a granular level, which, given the computing power available today and the long-established practices for doing these things in filesystems and databases, is nothing short of criminal.
- The registry stores data as "dumb de-contextualized." It lacks important metadata that it really ought to have if parties beyond the OS are going to be messing around in it, such as information about key creation and ownership, key history or version, dependencies, cross-references, validation constraints, comments, etc.
Moreover, as far as speed is concerned, I dont' think the registry is fast at all. It's a sort of database created with technologies of 20 years ago, so old and slow. Then ... how can you compare searching a 10 byte value in a 100 byte file instead of having to search through 50 MB of registry? And if it's all in memory (I doubt it), why is windows wasting 50 MB of precious memory when I only run my app which needs only a 100 byte configuration?
Čisto vse slabe lastnosti registra so v bistvu slabe lastnosti win32 programov, ker se jim dovoli vsako sranje počet na sistemu. In pol ga tut počnejo, tudi v registru.
zakaj MS raje ne uporabi prave SQL baze kot nekaj sedaj obksurnega, kar ni več ne tič ne miš ? Npr. tale 2MB (nameščen) palček http://locate32.net si naredi pravo DB, iskanje po TB diskovja traja manj kot sekundo.
Zakaj točno bi pa sploh moral/hotel iskati nekaj po registru?
