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Chalky ::
Sicer tega nisem želel objaviti ker nisem bil povsem prepričal kako avtentično je vse skupaj ampak zdaj ko je Press Secretery komentirala post bom objavil:
PRESS SECRETARY: Stop what you are doing and read this... https://x.com/PressSec/status/200999786...
This account from a Venezuelan security guard loyal to Nicolás Maduro is absolutely chilling--and it explains a lot about why the tone across Latin America suddenly changed.
Security Guard: On the day of the operation, we didn't hear anything coming. We were on guard, but suddenly all our radar systems shut down without any explanation. The next thing we saw were drones, a lot of drones, flying over our positions. We didn't know how to react.
Interviewer: So what happened next? How was the main attack?
Security Guard: After those drones appeared, some helicopters arrived, but there were very few. I think barely eight helicopters. From those helicopters, soldiers came down, but a very small number. Maybe twenty men. But those men were technologically very advanced. They didn't look like anything we've fought against before.
Interviewer: And then the battle began?
Security Guard: Yes, but it was a massacre. We were hundreds, but we had no chance. They were shooting with such precision and speed... it seemed like each soldier was firing 300 rounds per minute. We couldn't do anything.
Interviewer: And your own weapons? Didn't they help?
Security Guard: No help at all. Because it wasn't just the weapons. At one point, they launched something--I don't know how to describe it... it was like a very intense sound wave. Suddenly I felt like my head was exploding from the inside. We all started bleeding from the nose. Some were vomiting blood. We fell to the ground, unable to move.
Interviewer: And your comrades? Did they manage to resist?
Security Guard: No, not at all. Those twenty men, without a single casualty, killed hundreds of us. We had no way to compete with their technology, with their weapons. I swear, I've never seen anything like it. We couldn't even stand up after that sonic weapon or whatever it was.
Interviewer: So do you think the rest of the region should think twice before confronting the Americans?
Security Guard: Without a doubt. I'm sending a warning to anyone who thinks they can fight the United States. They have no idea what they're capable of. After what I saw, I never want to be on the other side of that again. They're not to be messed with.
Interviewer: And now that Trump has said Mexico is on the list, do you think the situation will change in Latin America?
Security Guard: Definitely. Everyone is already talking about this. No one wants to go through what we went through. Now everyone thinks twice. What happened here is going to change a lot of things, not just in Venezuela but throughout the region.
Izjava Venezuelskega vojaka oziroma varnostnika ki naj bi vse skupaj doživel:
https://x.com/anttsinc/status/200964311...
https://x.com/anttsinc/status/200972766...
https://x.com/RedPandaKoala/status/2009...
PRESS SECRETARY: Stop what you are doing and read this... https://x.com/PressSec/status/200999786...
This account from a Venezuelan security guard loyal to Nicolás Maduro is absolutely chilling--and it explains a lot about why the tone across Latin America suddenly changed.
Security Guard: On the day of the operation, we didn't hear anything coming. We were on guard, but suddenly all our radar systems shut down without any explanation. The next thing we saw were drones, a lot of drones, flying over our positions. We didn't know how to react.
Interviewer: So what happened next? How was the main attack?
Security Guard: After those drones appeared, some helicopters arrived, but there were very few. I think barely eight helicopters. From those helicopters, soldiers came down, but a very small number. Maybe twenty men. But those men were technologically very advanced. They didn't look like anything we've fought against before.
Interviewer: And then the battle began?
Security Guard: Yes, but it was a massacre. We were hundreds, but we had no chance. They were shooting with such precision and speed... it seemed like each soldier was firing 300 rounds per minute. We couldn't do anything.
Interviewer: And your own weapons? Didn't they help?
Security Guard: No help at all. Because it wasn't just the weapons. At one point, they launched something--I don't know how to describe it... it was like a very intense sound wave. Suddenly I felt like my head was exploding from the inside. We all started bleeding from the nose. Some were vomiting blood. We fell to the ground, unable to move.
Interviewer: And your comrades? Did they manage to resist?
Security Guard: No, not at all. Those twenty men, without a single casualty, killed hundreds of us. We had no way to compete with their technology, with their weapons. I swear, I've never seen anything like it. We couldn't even stand up after that sonic weapon or whatever it was.
Interviewer: So do you think the rest of the region should think twice before confronting the Americans?
Security Guard: Without a doubt. I'm sending a warning to anyone who thinks they can fight the United States. They have no idea what they're capable of. After what I saw, I never want to be on the other side of that again. They're not to be messed with.
Interviewer: And now that Trump has said Mexico is on the list, do you think the situation will change in Latin America?
Security Guard: Definitely. Everyone is already talking about this. No one wants to go through what we went through. Now everyone thinks twice. What happened here is going to change a lot of things, not just in Venezuela but throughout the region.
Izjava Venezuelskega vojaka oziroma varnostnika ki naj bi vse skupaj doživel:
https://x.com/anttsinc/status/200964311...
https://x.com/anttsinc/status/200972766...
https://x.com/RedPandaKoala/status/2009...
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Poldi112 ::
Ja rusi v ua so pa krasen dokaz da tega ne moreš doseći z vojsko.
UA je malo neposrečen primer, ker so rusi so za razliko od USA kopenska sila, in ker so, za razliko od USA, v vojni z sosedo.
Drugo bi bilo da bi bila južna amerika na nivoju eu potem bi njej verjetno uspelo Venezuelo iztrgat iz ameriške gravitacije.
Ravno obratno - če bi bila J. Amerika kup hlapcev kot EU, potem bi ostalo pri protestnih notah. Ker imajo pa poltisočletno zgodovino odpora proti kolonialcem, se pa stvari za USA malenkost bolj kompleksne.
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Samael ::
Krivec za sedanje stanje je slabo vodenje gospodarstva (tudi zato, ker je veliko sposobnih priseljencev odšlo) in korupcija. Podobno velja recimo za Somalijo..
To je posledica, ne vzrok.
Evropski gospodarji so omenjene teritorije izkoriščali za surovine pa hkrati ignorirale etnične, kulturne, jezikovne, itd ... skupine, meje postavljali kot je služilo njim samim, itd ... kar je pozneje povzročilo notranje konflikte in državljanske vojne.
Ekonomija teh kolonij je bila usmerjena v izvoz surovin, ne v razvoj lokalne infrastrukture ali industrije. Kaj misliš, da je ostalo potem, ko so šli?
Po koncu kolonializma so te države večinoma podedovale šibke državne institucije brez izkušenih lokalnih voditeljev, ki bi znali graditi stabilne demokratične strukture, tako sta pa avtokracija in korupcija nadomestili kolonialni nadzor, ker so nove vlade pač ohranile centraliziran nadzor, ki je bil značilen za kolonialno upravo.
Demokracija je pač proces ne nekaj, kar postaviš čez noč. Ali v par desetih letih. Koliko časa, vekov, smo po antiki, torej prvi znani neposredni demokraciji potrebovali mi, da smo dejansko zaživeli v demokratični družbi? Dobili splošno volilno pravico, pravno državo, pluralizem, itd...? 22 do 24 stoletij? Več?
In kaj je potem v teh nekdanjih kolonijah ostalo?
Nerazvita infrastruktura, odvisnost od ene ali dveh surovinski dobrin (nafta, kava, kakav ...), mednarodni dolgovi, šahovsko polje za kdaj prikrite, drugič javne intervencije velesil, ki so se tam še naprej igračkale oz. se igračkajo, podkupujejo, odstavljajo/postavljajo voditelje, netijo nemire, itd.
Mislim, saj vem, da kolonializem, ki je postavil umetne meje, odvisnost od surovin, šibke institucije, socialne napetosti, itd ... ki so se kasneje nadaljevale skozi politične konflikte in gospodarske težave seveda ni edini krivec (tu imaš še kup drugih kot so suša, erozija tal, podnebne spremembe, bolezni...), je pa najpomembnejši, najbolj konsistenten zgodovinski dejavnik, ki je ustvaril pogoje za kasnejše probleme.
O mitu, imenovanem Rodezija, kjer so Britanci v oligarhični demokraciji za belo manjšino med dvema glavnima skupinama s favoriziranjem uporabljal taktiko deli in vladaj, ustvarili hierarhijo dostopa do zemlje, izobrazbe, oblasti ... pa kjer oblast po osamosvojitvi prevzamejo revolucionarne elite, ne demokratične institucije (ki nikoli niso bile niti razvite, razen za belo prebivalstvo z volilno pravico) pa niti ne bi izgubljal besed ...
Edina res pomembna krivda nekdanjih kolonialnih gospodarjev so umetno postavljene meje, zaradi katerih prihaja do problemov med različnimi narodi.
Aha, si se kar odločil pol? Da je to ena in edina res pomembna krivda ...?
Ampak opa, pazi no ...
Drug pomemben krivec za mnoge probleme, ki se vlečejo še do danes, je bila pa hladna vojna. Sovjetska zveza na eni strani in "zahodne" demokracije na drugi strani so podpirale različne stranke in povzročale oziroma spodbujale državljanske vojne.
Pa ti je vendarle uspelo najti še drugo iz "šahovsko polje za kdaj prikrite, drugič javne intervencije velesil, ki so se tam še naprej igračkale oz. se igračkajo, podkupujejo, odstavljajo/postavljajo voditelje, netijo nemire, itd." teksta zgoraj, ga ob selektivem citiranju malce sfrizirati, da izgleda, kot da je zrasel na tvojem zeljniku.
Ah, Okapi, Okapi..., prebrisanc en, ne daš se ti.
Bi mogoče, če še enkrat prebereš, našel še tretjega? Mogoče četrtega? Kaj pravi posvet s prjAItlom? /s
Samael != Samuel
Chalky ::
Interviewer: And your own weapons? Didn't they help?
Security Guard: No help at all. Because it wasn't just the weapons. At one point, they launched something--I don't know how to describe it... it was like a very intense sound wave. Suddenly I felt like my head was exploding from the inside. We all started bleeding from the nose. Some were vomiting blood. We fell to the ground, unable to move.
Interviewer: And your comrades? Did they manage to resist?
Security Guard: No, not at all. Those twenty men, without a single casualty, killed hundreds of us. We had no way to compete with their technology, with their weapons. I swear, I've never seen anything like it. We couldn't even stand up after that sonic weapon or whatever it was.
Ne vem zakaj me prvi odstravek spominja na dogajanje iz tistega konzulata na Kubi kjer so se ameriški diplomati neprestano pritoževali da slišijo neke zvoke in da povzročajo bolečine v glavi, Američani so vse skupaj celo poimenovali Havana Syndrome o katerem je poročal tudi 60 minutes. Ali je možno da so Američani odgovorili v enaki meri, Kubancem ki so varovali Madura?
Security Guard: No help at all. Because it wasn't just the weapons. At one point, they launched something--I don't know how to describe it... it was like a very intense sound wave. Suddenly I felt like my head was exploding from the inside. We all started bleeding from the nose. Some were vomiting blood. We fell to the ground, unable to move.
Interviewer: And your comrades? Did they manage to resist?
Security Guard: No, not at all. Those twenty men, without a single casualty, killed hundreds of us. We had no way to compete with their technology, with their weapons. I swear, I've never seen anything like it. We couldn't even stand up after that sonic weapon or whatever it was.
Ne vem zakaj me prvi odstravek spominja na dogajanje iz tistega konzulata na Kubi kjer so se ameriški diplomati neprestano pritoževali da slišijo neke zvoke in da povzročajo bolečine v glavi, Američani so vse skupaj celo poimenovali Havana Syndrome o katerem je poročal tudi 60 minutes. Ali je možno da so Američani odgovorili v enaki meri, Kubancem ki so varovali Madura?
Poldi112 ::
> Security Guard: Without a doubt. I'm sending a warning to anyone who thinks they can fight the United States.
Vojna z njimi ni isto kot odpor. Bomo videli, če bodo naftarji investirali miljarde v naftno infrastrukturo. Osebno skoraj ne verjamem, ker je ne bodo mogli zaščititi pred nezadovoljnimi lokalci. Če pa ima Chalky prav, pa načeloma ne bi smelo biti ovir?
Vojna z njimi ni isto kot odpor. Bomo videli, če bodo naftarji investirali miljarde v naftno infrastrukturo. Osebno skoraj ne verjamem, ker je ne bodo mogli zaščititi pred nezadovoljnimi lokalci. Če pa ima Chalky prav, pa načeloma ne bi smelo biti ovir?
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Chalky ::
Poldi112
Ti še vedno misliš da bo prišlo do neke hude vojne medtem ko sem ti jaz že pred to operacijo povedal kaj se bo zgodilo in da ne bo nobene vojne ker se v Venezueli nihče ne misli vojskovati ker to ni bližnji vzhod. Ti bom povedal še nadalje korake, kar se bo zgodilo in si lahko tudi ta komentar shraniš.
Najprej se bo povečalo črpanje Venezuelske nafte dokler se Venezuela ne postavi na noge in gospodarsko ponovno začne dihati. To bo trajalo vsaj leto dni. Ko se bo vse skupaj v Venezueli postavilo na dokaj normalno raven, bodo izvedli demokratične volitve kjer bo trenutna predsednica Venezuela zapustila položaj na normalen način brez izgredov in nasilja. Ampak najprej je potrebno urediti gospodarstvo in spustiti inflacijo iz trenutnih 100% na 5%.
Potem bo slika bolj jasna. Rusija, CCP ter Iran pa v Venezueli niso več dobrodošli, zato je to velika zmaga za ZDA. Novega Vietnama oziroma Afganistana tu ne boš videl, če ga slučajno še vedno čakaš. Zakaj misliš da je cel svet šokiran? Nihče ni pričakoval da se bo vse skupaj zgodilo tako hitro in precizno in s takšno lahkoto. Celoten svet je dober teden po operaciji, še vedno v šoku.
Ti še vedno misliš da bo prišlo do neke hude vojne medtem ko sem ti jaz že pred to operacijo povedal kaj se bo zgodilo in da ne bo nobene vojne ker se v Venezueli nihče ne misli vojskovati ker to ni bližnji vzhod. Ti bom povedal še nadalje korake, kar se bo zgodilo in si lahko tudi ta komentar shraniš.
Najprej se bo povečalo črpanje Venezuelske nafte dokler se Venezuela ne postavi na noge in gospodarsko ponovno začne dihati. To bo trajalo vsaj leto dni. Ko se bo vse skupaj v Venezueli postavilo na dokaj normalno raven, bodo izvedli demokratične volitve kjer bo trenutna predsednica Venezuela zapustila položaj na normalen način brez izgredov in nasilja. Ampak najprej je potrebno urediti gospodarstvo in spustiti inflacijo iz trenutnih 100% na 5%.
Potem bo slika bolj jasna. Rusija, CCP ter Iran pa v Venezueli niso več dobrodošli, zato je to velika zmaga za ZDA. Novega Vietnama oziroma Afganistana tu ne boš videl, če ga slučajno še vedno čakaš. Zakaj misliš da je cel svet šokiran? Nihče ni pričakoval da se bo vse skupaj zgodilo tako hitro in precizno in s takšno lahkoto. Celoten svet je dober teden po operaciji, še vedno v šoku.
Okapi ::
Ah, Okapi, Okapi..., prebrisanc en, ne daš se ti.
/s
Če bi ti razumel preprosta besedila, bi nam bilo vsem prihranjeno veliko nepotrebnega tipkanja.
Za hladno vojno in njene posledice v Afriki in drugod niso krive nekdanje lastnice kolonij, temveč Sovjetska zveza in ZDA.
Samael ::
Koliko "vas" pa je? Pa saj nisi baš nekaj natipkal, pa še to kar si, je bila povsem selektivna pavšalna trditev zgolj, ker ti je težko požreti slino, kadar te nekdo nekje popravi. :)
Ne bo potem še tretjega razloga? Mogoče četrtega?
Je že uredu ... kar privošči si imeti tazadnjo. :)
Ne bo potem še tretjega razloga? Mogoče četrtega?
Je že uredu ... kar privošči si imeti tazadnjo. :)
Samael != Samuel
kow ::
Samael, spet nekaj relativiziras. Krivi so Venezuelci, ker so volili za "bolivarsko republiko", ne pa ameriski ali evropski kolonializem. Imeli so druge opcije, izbrali so nespametno.
Ce revez verjame vojaskemu karmizmaticnemu nategunu, da mu ta zrihtal boljse zivljenje, si je sam kriv.
Ce revez verjame vojaskemu karmizmaticnemu nategunu, da mu ta zrihtal boljse zivljenje, si je sam kriv.
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Samael ::
Nah, ne slediš debati - ne zamerim. Z Okapijem sva se malo oddaljila od Venezuele, med drugim je šel v Afriko, jaz pa pograbil - my bad, saj se umikam :)
Samael != Samuel
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Poldi112 ::
Poldi112
Ti še vedno misliš da bo prišlo do neke hude
Ne drži. Jaz menim, da ne bo hude vojne, ker USA nima želodca za nov Vietnam. Vse, kar mora Venezuela narediti, je še malo potrpeti. Verjento se bodo zmenili, da bodo v zameno za dvig sankcij ohranili petrodolar, pa še kakšen nepomemben detajl. Če Trump izpade "tough guy" je praktično že dosegel svoje.
si lahko tudi ta komentar shraniš.
Nimam malih otrok, da bi jim bral pravljice.
Zakaj misliš da je cel svet šokiran?
Saj ni. Ja, z vojaškega stališča je bila akcija vsekakor imperesivna, samo, kot rečeno, z njo zaenkrat še niso popolnoma nič konkretnega dosegli.
Gre pa zgolj za nadaljevanje iste politike, ki jo USA igra že dobro stoletje, tako da res ne vem, zakaj bi ameriški teror kogarkoli presenetil?
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
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pangro ::
Ja rusi v ua so pa krasen dokaz da tega ne moreš doseći z vojsko.
UA je malo neposrečen primer, ker so rusi so za razliko od USA kopenska sila, in ker so, za razliko od USA, v vojni z sosedo.
Drugo bi bilo da bi bila južna amerika na nivoju eu potem bi njej verjetno uspelo Venezuelo iztrgat iz ameriške gravitacije.
Ravno obratno - če bi bila J. Amerika kup hlapcev kot EU, potem bi ostalo pri protestnih notah. Ker imajo pa poltisočletno zgodovino odpora proti kolonialcem, se pa stvari za USA malenkost bolj kompleksne.
Ravno Ua je krasen primer nesmiselnosti vojaškega posega za dosego vplivanja na neko državo. Rusi bistveno već umirajo in trošijo več denarja glede na svoj gdp kot so ga američani v svojim vojaških posegih. Ua je klasićni primer.
Glede eu in južne amerike. Če bi bila eu bi tisti ameriški helikopterji vsi dol propadal oziroma vprašanje če bi si američani sploh upal izvedet poseg za ugrabitev predsednika.
Chalky ::
NYP: US used powerful sonic weapon that brought Venezuelan soldiers to their knees during Maduro raid: witness account
https://nypost.com/2026/01/10/world-new...
Številni člani Trumpove administracije so linkali komentar tako da bo verjetno kar držalo.
https://nypost.com/2026/01/10/world-new...
Številni člani Trumpove administracije so linkali komentar tako da bo verjetno kar držalo.
sbawe64 ::
https://slo-tech.com/forum/t849535/p867...
Kakor je bilo zaslediti informacije po srečanju s predstavniki naftne industrije v Beli hiši, slednje niso pripravljene zagoniti 100 milijard za obnovo.
Bo tako kot Golobovih famoznih 1000 novih domov po poplavah avgusta.
Hitreje ko bodo postavili naftno infrastrukturo, hitreje se bo Venezuela postavila na noge. Trenutna cena nafte je precej nizka, realno lahko preko nafte zaslužijo oboji že bistveno bolj. Ko bo Venezuela sposobna črpati 5 milijonov sodov na dan bo pa to že druga zgodba. Takrat se bo govorili o stotinah milijar dolarjev na leto.
Če bo šlo vse po načrtu bo to velika zmaga za ZDA kot tudi Venezuelo.
Kakor je bilo zaslediti informacije po srečanju s predstavniki naftne industrije v Beli hiši, slednje niso pripravljene zagoniti 100 milijard za obnovo.
Bo tako kot Golobovih famoznih 1000 novih domov po poplavah avgusta.
2020 is new 1984
Corona World order
Corona World order
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Chalky ::
https://slo-tech.com/forum/t849535/p867...
Hitreje ko bodo postavili naftno infrastrukturo, hitreje se bo Venezuela postavila na noge. Trenutna cena nafte je precej nizka, realno lahko preko nafte zaslužijo oboji že bistveno bolj. Ko bo Venezuela sposobna črpati 5 milijonov sodov na dan bo pa to že druga zgodba. Takrat se bo govorili o stotinah milijar dolarjev na leto.
Če bo šlo vse po načrtu bo to velika zmaga za ZDA kot tudi Venezuelo.
Kakor je bilo zaslediti informacije po srečanju s predstavniki naftne industrije v Beli hiši, slednje niso pripravljene zagoniti 100 milijard za obnovo.
Bo tako kot Golobovih famoznih 1000 novih domov po poplavah avgusta.
Ne bo držalo, poglej si včerajšnjo konferenco in boš videl da se večina strinja in bo šla v Venezuelo:
bbbbbb2024 ::
https://slo-tech.com/forum/t849535/p867...
Hitreje ko bodo postavili naftno infrastrukturo, hitreje se bo Venezuela postavila na noge. Trenutna cena nafte je precej nizka, realno lahko preko nafte zaslužijo oboji že bistveno bolj. Ko bo Venezuela sposobna črpati 5 milijonov sodov na dan bo pa to že druga zgodba. Takrat se bo govorili o stotinah milijar dolarjev na leto.
Če bo šlo vse po načrtu bo to velika zmaga za ZDA kot tudi Venezuelo.
Kakor je bilo zaslediti informacije po srečanju s predstavniki naftne industrije v Beli hiši, slednje niso pripravljene zagoniti 100 milijard za obnovo.
Bo tako kot Golobovih famoznih 1000 novih domov po poplavah avgusta.
Saj so rekli, kaj je problem. Da za investicijo nimajo nobenih garancij, da ne pride Chavez v3.0 (Maduro je Chavez v2.0) in zopet naredi neko pyzdarijo, nacionalizira kaj ali kaj podobnega.
Morali bodo začeti s sodelovanjem na malo, povečevati črpanje, bolj flikati, kot vse na novo zgraditi in potem morda čez 4-5 let, investirati kaj več. Da bi ameriška podjetja zdaj ta trenutek dala 100 mrd $, to Trump ne ve, kaj govori.
kow ::
Chavez 3 ne more priti. Ne bo imel podpore. Imo je bolj verjetni scenarij vrsta sibkih vlad, nato pa pride na oblast kaksen desnicar/populist, ki bo obljubil "da bo naredil red".
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bbbbbb2024 ::
https://slo-tech.com/forum/t849535/p867...
Hitreje ko bodo postavili naftno infrastrukturo, hitreje se bo Venezuela postavila na noge. Trenutna cena nafte je precej nizka, realno lahko preko nafte zaslužijo oboji že bistveno bolj. Ko bo Venezuela sposobna črpati 5 milijonov sodov na dan bo pa to že druga zgodba. Takrat se bo govorili o stotinah milijar dolarjev na leto.
Če bo šlo vse po načrtu bo to velika zmaga za ZDA kot tudi Venezuelo.
Kakor je bilo zaslediti informacije po srečanju s predstavniki naftne industrije v Beli hiši, slednje niso pripravljene zagoniti 100 milijard za obnovo.
Bo tako kot Golobovih famoznih 1000 novih domov po poplavah avgusta.
Ne bo držalo, poglej si včerajšnjo konferenco in boš videl da se večina strinja in bo šla v Venezuelo:
Brati in gledati moraš vrstice in med vrsticami. Rekli so, da nekih generalnih investicij ne bo, ker je Venezuela 'uninvestable' TA TRENUTEK, da pa bodo poslali exploracijske time v Venezuelo, da bodo videli, kaj se da narediti.
To so razumni odgovori na grandiozne plane od Trumpa. V 4-5 letih je za pričakovati kakšno spremembo, do takrat bolj gradualne spremembe.
SmeskoSnezak ::
NYP: US used powerful sonic weapon that brought Venezuelan soldiers to their knees during Maduro raid: witness account
https://nypost.com/2026/01/10/world-new...
Številni člani Trumpove administracije so linkali komentar tako da bo verjetno kar držalo.
a ti ljudje v venezueli ne poznajo nobenih "sodobnih pripomockov" (Walker Razor muff-si, NRRs 23 -33, 3M modeli, ip.)? al smo samo evropejci doma z zagami tako "ozavesceni"? lp, smeeskkaa
@ Pusti soncu v srce... @
Poldi112 ::
Chavez 3 ne more priti. Ne bo imel podpore.
Zakaj ne? Čavisti so še kar na oblasti, medtem ko so Guaido, tanova nobelova nagrajenka in podobni bolj kot ne s strani zahoda napumpane lutke.
In sedaj, ko so jim američani ugrabili predsednika, se bo njihova podpora le še povečala.
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Chalky ::
JUST IN: President Trump CUTS OFF oil and money to CUBA, tells the Cuban regime, "make a deal, BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE"
Cuba lived, for many years, on large amounts of OIL and MONEY from Venezuela. In return, Cuba provided "Security Services" for the last two Venezuelan dictators, BUT NOT ANYMORE! Most of those Cubans are DEAD from last weeks U.S.A. attack, and Venezuela doesn't need protection anymore from the thugs and extortionists who held them hostage for so many years. Venezuela now has the United States of America, the most powerful military in the World (by far!), to protect them, and protect them we will. THERE WILL BE NO MORE OIL OR MONEY GOING TO CUBA - ZERO! I strongly suggest they make a deal, BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE. Thank you for your attention to this matter. President DJT
Cuba lived, for many years, on large amounts of OIL and MONEY from Venezuela. In return, Cuba provided "Security Services" for the last two Venezuelan dictators, BUT NOT ANYMORE! Most of those Cubans are DEAD from last weeks U.S.A. attack, and Venezuela doesn't need protection anymore from the thugs and extortionists who held them hostage for so many years. Venezuela now has the United States of America, the most powerful military in the World (by far!), to protect them, and protect them we will. THERE WILL BE NO MORE OIL OR MONEY GOING TO CUBA - ZERO! I strongly suggest they make a deal, BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE. Thank you for your attention to this matter. President DJT
c3p0 ::
Pa ne še Kube, no! En redkih socialističnih rajev, ki so še ostali. Kam bo Kordiš naslednjič potoval (če ne bo zadetek spet pozabil potnega lista doma, OK, to je druga zgodba), v S. Korejo??!1
Chalky ::
Trump floats the idea of Marco Rubio becoming the 'President of Cuba.'
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrum...
Verjetno se šali. Drugače pa bi Kubo lahko priključili če bi zgradili most iz Key West do Kube kar je približno 160km. Čeprav ne vem kaj bi imeli od Kube ki so jo že enkrat hoteli za Zvezno državo. Edino kar bi dosegli z priključitvijo Kube je da bi imeli potem popolno kontrolo nad Karibskim morjem ter da se jim nikoli več nebi ponovila Kubanska kriza.
Je pa Kuba lep otok in dobra turistična atrakcija z lepimi plažami:
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrum...
Verjetno se šali. Drugače pa bi Kubo lahko priključili če bi zgradili most iz Key West do Kube kar je približno 160km. Čeprav ne vem kaj bi imeli od Kube ki so jo že enkrat hoteli za Zvezno državo. Edino kar bi dosegli z priključitvijo Kube je da bi imeli potem popolno kontrolo nad Karibskim morjem ter da se jim nikoli več nebi ponovila Kubanska kriza.
Je pa Kuba lep otok in dobra turistična atrakcija z lepimi plažami:
kow ::
Chavez 3 ne more priti. Ne bo imel podpore.
Zakaj ne? Čavisti so še kar na oblasti, medtem ko so Guaido, tanova nobelova nagrajenka in podobni bolj kot ne s strani zahoda napumpane lutke.
In sedaj, ko so jim američani ugrabili predsednika, se bo njihova podpora le še povečala.
Cavisti so na oblasti (ker kontrolirajo vojsko), ampak cavizem je mrtev. Se sami vec ne verjamejo v njega.
c3p0 ::
Zanimiv video, verjetno so čelade tega tipa uporabljali DF. Vsi povezani preko enega sistema, kar vidi en (tudi dron), vidijo vsi, projicirano na pravo mesto in ustrezno obarvano.
Če ta tech kažejo raji, potem lahko le sanjamo, kakšne igračke vse še imajo. Očitno tudi nek zelo prenosen sonic weapon.
https://x.com/RedPandaKoala/status/2010...
Če ta tech kažejo raji, potem lahko le sanjamo, kakšne igračke vse še imajo. Očitno tudi nek zelo prenosen sonic weapon.
https://x.com/RedPandaKoala/status/2010...
Goran10 ::
gen Maister je izjavil:
Je bil pa režim, ne bom napisal vlada, dovolj odtujen in izoliran od ljudstva, ki je v zadnkem času kar krepko obubožalo...
Če se jih sabotira in sankcionira, potem je težko pričakovati, da bodo prosperirali.
Vseeno je pa praktično nemogoče, da bi se z nastavitvijo ameriške lutke situacija za ljudi izboljšala.
Vidim da je real politik v tebi umrl. Prebudi se samo ko gre zagovarjat rusko klanje v ukrajini.
redtech ::
@c3p0 je nekako se ujema s to zgodbo:
This account from a Venezuelan security guard loyal to Nicolás Maduro is absolutely chilling--and it explains a lot about why the tone across Latin America suddenly changed.
Security Guard: On the day of the operation, we didn't hear anything coming. We were on guard, but suddenly all our radar systems shut down without any explanation. The next thing we saw were drones, a lot of drones, flying over our positions. We didn't know how to react.
Interviewer: So what happened next? How was the main attack?
Security Guard: After those drones appeared, some helicopters arrived, but there were very few. I think barely eight helicopters. From those helicopters, soldiers came down, but a very small number. Maybe twenty men. But those men were technologically very advanced. They didn't look like anything we've fought against before.
Interviewer: And then the battle began?
Security Guard: Yes, but it was a massacre. We were hundreds, but we had no chance. They were shooting with such precision and speed... it seemed like each soldier was firing 300 rounds per minute. We couldn't do anything.
Interviewer: And your own weapons? Didn't they help?
Security Guard: No help at all. Because it wasn't just the weapons. At one point, they launched something--I don't know how to describe it... it was like a very intense sound wave. Suddenly I felt like my head was exploding from the inside. We all started bleeding from the nose. Some were vomiting blood. We fell to the ground, unable to move.
Interviewer: And your comrades? Did they manage to resist?
Security Guard: No, not at all. Those twenty men, without a single casualty, killed hundreds of us. We had no way to compete with their technology, with their weapons. I swear, I've never seen anything like it. We couldn't even stand up after that sonic weapon or whatever it was.
Interviewer: So do you think the rest of the region should think twice before confronting the Americans?
Security Guard: Without a doubt. I'm sending a warning to anyone who thinks they can fight the United States. They have no idea what they're capable of. After what I saw, I never want to be on the other side of that again. They're not to be messed with.
Interviewer: And now that Trump has said Mexico is on the list, do you think the situation will change in Latin America?
Security Guard: Definitely. Everyone is already talking about this. No one wants to go through what we went through. Now everyone thinks twice. What happened here is going to change a lot of things, not just in Venezuela but throughout the region.
This account from a Venezuelan security guard loyal to Nicolás Maduro is absolutely chilling--and it explains a lot about why the tone across Latin America suddenly changed.
Security Guard: On the day of the operation, we didn't hear anything coming. We were on guard, but suddenly all our radar systems shut down without any explanation. The next thing we saw were drones, a lot of drones, flying over our positions. We didn't know how to react.
Interviewer: So what happened next? How was the main attack?
Security Guard: After those drones appeared, some helicopters arrived, but there were very few. I think barely eight helicopters. From those helicopters, soldiers came down, but a very small number. Maybe twenty men. But those men were technologically very advanced. They didn't look like anything we've fought against before.
Interviewer: And then the battle began?
Security Guard: Yes, but it was a massacre. We were hundreds, but we had no chance. They were shooting with such precision and speed... it seemed like each soldier was firing 300 rounds per minute. We couldn't do anything.
Interviewer: And your own weapons? Didn't they help?
Security Guard: No help at all. Because it wasn't just the weapons. At one point, they launched something--I don't know how to describe it... it was like a very intense sound wave. Suddenly I felt like my head was exploding from the inside. We all started bleeding from the nose. Some were vomiting blood. We fell to the ground, unable to move.
Interviewer: And your comrades? Did they manage to resist?
Security Guard: No, not at all. Those twenty men, without a single casualty, killed hundreds of us. We had no way to compete with their technology, with their weapons. I swear, I've never seen anything like it. We couldn't even stand up after that sonic weapon or whatever it was.
Interviewer: So do you think the rest of the region should think twice before confronting the Americans?
Security Guard: Without a doubt. I'm sending a warning to anyone who thinks they can fight the United States. They have no idea what they're capable of. After what I saw, I never want to be on the other side of that again. They're not to be messed with.
Interviewer: And now that Trump has said Mexico is on the list, do you think the situation will change in Latin America?
Security Guard: Definitely. Everyone is already talking about this. No one wants to go through what we went through. Now everyone thinks twice. What happened here is going to change a lot of things, not just in Venezuela but throughout the region.
Malidelničar ::
Kubo so Američani takrat kontrolirali kot teritorij skupaj z Havaji, Filipini in Portorikom konec 19. stol, ko so izgnali Špance. Potem je iz Havajev na koncu nastala nova zvezna država, Filipini so postali samostojni, Kuba potem tudi, Portoriko je pa še vedno ozemlje v upravi ZDA, ki pa se ne more odločiti v katero smer bi šlo :)
Don't invest like a Joe. Invest like a Simon.
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Varja ::
Jaz mislim da ravno vojne Trump v južni Ameriki ne bo skuhal, sigurno pa ima on strice iz ozadja in ne odloča povsem samostojno, saj so biii tudi ostali ameriški predsedniki bolj mariionete, niso bili samostojni pri odločanju...
Goran10 ::
@c3p0 je nekako se ujema s to zgodbo:
This account from a Venezuelan security guard loyal to Nicolás Maduro is absolutely chilling--and it explains a lot about why the tone across Latin America suddenly changed.
Security Guard: On the day of the operation, we didn't hear anything coming. We were on guard, but suddenly all our radar systems shut down without any explanation. The next thing we saw were drones, a lot of drones, flying over our positions. We didn't know how to react.
Interviewer: So what happened next? How was the main attack?
Security Guard: After those drones appeared, some helicopters arrived, but there were very few. I think barely eight helicopters. From those helicopters, soldiers came down, but a very small number. Maybe twenty men. But those men were technologically very advanced. They didn't look like anything we've fought against before.
Interviewer: And then the battle began?
Security Guard: Yes, but it was a massacre. We were hundreds, but we had no chance. They were shooting with such precision and speed... it seemed like each soldier was firing 300 rounds per minute. We couldn't do anything.
Interviewer: And your own weapons? Didn't they help?
Security Guard: No help at all. Because it wasn't just the weapons. At one point, they launched something--I don't know how to describe it... it was like a very intense sound wave. Suddenly I felt like my head was exploding from the inside. We all started bleeding from the nose. Some were vomiting blood. We fell to the ground, unable to move.
Interviewer: And your comrades? Did they manage to resist?
Security Guard: No, not at all. Those twenty men, without a single casualty, killed hundreds of us. We had no way to compete with their technology, with their weapons. I swear, I've never seen anything like it. We couldn't even stand up after that sonic weapon or whatever it was.
Interviewer: So do you think the rest of the region should think twice before confronting the Americans?
Security Guard: Without a doubt. I'm sending a warning to anyone who thinks they can fight the United States. They have no idea what they're capable of. After what I saw, I never want to be on the other side of that again. They're not to be messed with.
Interviewer: And now that Trump has said Mexico is on the list, do you think the situation will change in Latin America?
Security Guard: Definitely. Everyone is already talking about this. No one wants to go through what we went through. Now everyone thinks twice. What happened here is going to change a lot of things, not just in Venezuela but throughout the region.
Da ti tole redtechić nalima potem veš da z Zda se ni dobro zajebavat
Varja ::
Zato je pa Maduro tukaj bolj pameten od kolumbijskega predsednika Petra, ki pravi da se mora latinska Amerika združiti v uporu proti zda. Maduro tega ne počne, on se je najbrž nekaj zdilal z zda, da jim prepusti oblast, kar je boljse...
https://www.democracynow.org/2026/1/7/c...
https://www.democracynow.org/2026/1/7/c...
Stane2 ::
https://x.com/TheChiefNerd/status/20101...
FLASHBACK: Special Forces Vet. Evan Hafer predicted in 2024 that if the U.S. "declares war on the cartel, these dudes are not gonna understand what the f*ck is going on. They are in for a world of ultra-violence they've never actually felt before."
FLASHBACK: Special Forces Vet. Evan Hafer predicted in 2024 that if the U.S. "declares war on the cartel, these dudes are not gonna understand what the f*ck is going on. They are in for a world of ultra-violence they've never actually felt before."
c3p0 ::
Ti tipi (očitno ne vsi) mislijo, da je vojskovanje še vedno na ravni tega, kar vidimo v UKR na terenu (YT). Neke enote in potem komunikacija preko radia, koliko se pač sliši. Potem grejo v zmenjeno smer in se čez čas spet slišijo s štabom, pa upajo, da je info dober in da vmes ne bodo povoženi.
Za primerjavo, kot da bi igral CoD z aim botom in wallhackom, verjetno huje. Kje so še vsi podatki, ki se RT prenašajo v štab in se jim potem rišejo vsi premiki v živo, dopolnjeni z droni in sateliti.
Za primerjavo, kot da bi igral CoD z aim botom in wallhackom, verjetno huje. Kje so še vsi podatki, ki se RT prenašajo v štab in se jim potem rišejo vsi premiki v živo, dopolnjeni z droni in sateliti.
Goran10 ::
Nas pa ruski papagaji nategujejo da rusi bojujejo moderno vojno. Konji, rikše, mopedi in iranski šahedi pa predstavljajo vrh tehnologije.
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Chalky ::
Zanimiv video, verjetno so čelade tega tipa uporabljali DF. Vsi povezani preko enega sistema, kar vidi en (tudi dron), vidijo vsi, projicirano na pravo mesto in ustrezno obarvano.
Če ta tech kažejo raji, potem lahko le sanjamo, kakšne igračke vse še imajo. Očitno tudi nek zelo prenosen sonic weapon.
https://x.com/RedPandaKoala/status/2010...
Misija v Venezueli je močno pretresla ves svet saj je Trump praktično čez noč postavil ZDA nazaj na mapo oziroma je zgolj opomnil da so Ameri desetletja pred ostalimi. Jaz si sploh ne upam pomisliti kaj se bo zgodilo če dejansko res povečajo vojaški proračun na $1.5T. 5% GDP-ja bi bilo še vedno 2% manj kot v času hladne vojne kar pomeni da imajo ZDA še skoraj 600 dodatni milijard prostora.
ZDA postajajo kontinentalna hipersila:
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyper...
Trump želi Severno Ameriko spremeniti v eno državo, vsaj kar se tiče Greenland in Kanade. Mehika se bo tudi priključila vendar ne kot zvezna država ampak kot skupek na področju valute, gospodarska, bank, trgovine, vojske itd. Mehika bo obdržala svojo državo in svojo kulturo, tradicijo in jezik vendar se bo povsem integrirala z ZDA na ostalih področjih. Zato želi zdaj urediti Mehiko in odstraniti kartele.
Severna Amerika kot celota bo imela leta 2050 skoraj 800 milijonov ljudi. Leta 2030 bo GDP med ZDA, Kanada ter Mehiko presegel $45 Trillion dolarjev. ZDA bodo imele v roku enega leta 10% gospodarsko rast, to je izjavil Musk 2 tedna nazaj in ima povsem prav. Povsem možno da bodo ZDA leta 2027 zgledale nekako takole:
GDP: $35 Trillion
Stock Market Value: $100 Trillion
Defense Budget: $1500 Billion
GDP growth 10%+
Poleg tega so na dobri poti da poravnajo tako državni proračun kot tudi izničijo trgovinski primanjkljaj. Zdaj so dobili na svojo stran še Venezuelo ki je polna nafte, zlata, plina in ostalih stvari. Če pade Iran, sledi domino efekt kjer pade tudi Rusija. Skratka Američani so v neverjetni poziciji. Lahko da se v tem trenutku odloča 21 stoletje.
bbbbbb2024 ::
ZDA bodo imele v roku enega leta 10% gospodarsko rast, to je izjavil Musk 2 tedna nazaj in ima povsem prav. Povsem možno da bodo ZDA leta 2027 zgledale nekako takole:
GDP: $35 Trillion
Stock Market Value: $100 Trillion
Defense Budget: $1500 Billion
GDP growth 10%+
Poleg tega so na dobri poti da poravnajo tako državni proračun kot tudi izničijo trgovinski primanjkljaj.
Ne sanjari. Najprej Trump, Musk & Co.:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f_TmHfBJ...
Kot drugo, zaenkrat je tako, da nitiMexiko, niti Kanada nista pokazala niti najmanjše volje, da se kakorkoli integrirata, v karkoli. Trump je užalil Kanadčane, ZDA so beležile hud padec turistov iz Kanade, ter prodajo ZDA ozdelkov v Kanadi.
Tako izolacijonalistične politike ZDA niso imele že od 2. sv. vojne naprej. EU in Kitajska sklepata trgovinske dogovore. Sporazum EU-MERCOSUR kaže na pravo pot. To, da je Trump nažokal carine čez noč in EU, Kanadi, ipd. Kanadčani so že rekli, kaj je odgovor - novi trgi. Enako so rekle države J. Amerike.
S Kanado je potrebno ratificirati sporazum:
https://policy.trade.ec.europa.eu/eu-tr...
Z Azijci pa ASEAN:
https://policy.trade.ec.europa.eu/eu-tr...
To je pot naprej. Kolumbija se bo vrnila v MERCOSUR, pač ko bo kamionđija Maduro v zaporu.
Biznis je odgovor, ne enostranske grožnje narodom.
Trump je zapravil bom rekel 75+ let liberalne ameriške politike. Ostali bodo sami.
Chalky ::
bbbbbb2024:: danes, 20:05:53
Neumnosti pišeš se mi niti ne da odgovarjati (se bom potrudil vseeno). Če jek do ostal sam je to Kitajska in kmalu Rusija. ZDA bodo imele v lasti celoten Bližnji Vzhod, ko pade Iran. Mehika se bo integrirala gospodarsko in trgovinsko:
Mexico's 50% tariff shock shuts Asia's North American trade bypass
https://slo-tech.com/forum/t841313/p866...
Mehika je na strani ZDA. In samo še bolj bo. Kitajska in EU ne sprejemata nobenih trgovinskih sporazumov in ne gre za nobeno sodelovanje ampak predvsem "posiljevanje" s strani CCP-ja in njihovega dumpinga kjer ima Evropa skoraj 400 milijardni trgovinski primanjkljaj s Kitajsko, to ni nobeno sodelovanje.
To da naj bi ZDA vodile neko izolacijonalistično politiko so zgolj uboge želje podpornikov Rusije in Kitajske. V resnici so ZDA precej bolj dejavne kot kadarkoli prej samo na bolj pameten način kot je bilo to do sedaj.
Počakaj naslednje leto da boš videl in razumel v kaj se spreminjajo ZDA. Možna je tudi 10% gospodarska rast. Takšna rast bo Američane popeljala v nek povsem drug nivo in jim nihče ne bo mogel konkurirati.
Neumnosti pišeš se mi niti ne da odgovarjati (se bom potrudil vseeno). Če jek do ostal sam je to Kitajska in kmalu Rusija. ZDA bodo imele v lasti celoten Bližnji Vzhod, ko pade Iran. Mehika se bo integrirala gospodarsko in trgovinsko:
Mexico's 50% tariff shock shuts Asia's North American trade bypass
https://slo-tech.com/forum/t841313/p866...
Mehika je na strani ZDA. In samo še bolj bo. Kitajska in EU ne sprejemata nobenih trgovinskih sporazumov in ne gre za nobeno sodelovanje ampak predvsem "posiljevanje" s strani CCP-ja in njihovega dumpinga kjer ima Evropa skoraj 400 milijardni trgovinski primanjkljaj s Kitajsko, to ni nobeno sodelovanje.
To da naj bi ZDA vodile neko izolacijonalistično politiko so zgolj uboge želje podpornikov Rusije in Kitajske. V resnici so ZDA precej bolj dejavne kot kadarkoli prej samo na bolj pameten način kot je bilo to do sedaj.
Počakaj naslednje leto da boš videl in razumel v kaj se spreminjajo ZDA. Možna je tudi 10% gospodarska rast. Takšna rast bo Američane popeljala v nek povsem drug nivo in jim nihče ne bo mogel konkurirati.
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Goran10 ::
Za chalkjjam predvsem stojijo tržne vrednosti ameriških podjetij. To je pač dejstvo. Ai dela svoje in to v prid američanom pa če nam je Trump všeč ali ne.
kow ::
Chalky ze sanja o 10% rasti. Mal prevec je trenutno nahypean, pa taksne izjave. Trenutna U6 brezposelnost je 8.1%. Lani je bila 7.9%.
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Chalky ::
Chalky ze sanja o 10% rasti. Mal prevec je trenutno nahypean, pa taksne izjave. Trenutna U6 brezposelnost je 8.1%. Lani je bila 7.9%.
Tule da boš bolje razumel da si te številke nisem kar izmislil in da je realna (če Trump stori to kar pravi da bo storil):
https://slo-tech.com/forum/t849756/p867...
Larry Kudlow pravi 7%
S tem da notri ni vštel waste fraud in abuse kar je najmanj 2 do 3%.
Tule še Howard Lutnik: @HowardLutnick says we could see 6% GDP growth under President Trump: "If we cut rates, you'll see 6's."
https://x.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/20096...
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