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Rusija vs. Ukrajina aka. "Putin - še sladkih 16 let na oblasti?"
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AtaŠtumf ::
Da, sam sem tudi upal, da se bodo nekaj zmenili, kakor tudi marsikdo drug sem bil preoptimističen, da je dovolj zdrave pameti na obeh straneh za pogajanje.
Warmongerji tukaj in na zahodu so pa navijali za vojno in jo tudi dobili, sedaj pa še vedno navijajo, da se je treba boriti do zadnjega Ukrajinca in da se pogajati z grdim, grdim Putlerjem ne da!
Posledice so pa vsak dan bolj krvave!
ps: Paco kaj tvoji viri pravijo, je res, da se je povprečna starost ukrajinskega vojaka konkretno zvišala!?
Warmongerji tukaj in na zahodu so pa navijali za vojno in jo tudi dobili, sedaj pa še vedno navijajo, da se je treba boriti do zadnjega Ukrajinca in da se pogajati z grdim, grdim Putlerjem ne da!
Posledice so pa vsak dan bolj krvave!
ps: Paco kaj tvoji viri pravijo, je res, da se je povprečna starost ukrajinskega vojaka konkretno zvišala!?
#SlovenijaPrva #SLOVEenianLivesMatter #SlavaGasilcem
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Pac-Man ::
nitka:
https://twitter.com/michaeldweiss/statu...
https://twitter.com/michaeldweiss/statu...
. @holger_r and I talked to "Karl," the Estonian military analyst, about latest developments in Ukraine. Thread:
"This time, let’s start with a broader overview of the situation. It got quite messy for Ukraine from the strategic communication perspective a few weeks ago. It was a combination of several issues..."
"1. The expectations that Ukraine had for the summer counter-offensive were by far not met.
2. The still on-going confusion in U.S. Congress regarding funding Ukraine
3. Fears relating to Trump’s possible return to White House..."
"4. Internal fighting that broke out after Zaluzhny’s Economist article and the subsequent criticism from Ukraine's president’s administration.
If you add Russia's massive attacks mainly on Avdiivka, it all became very problematic."
"So far, Russia hasn’t achieved success with the attack and in the last few weeks the overall picture has improved a lot. Ukraine's internal rhetoric is more or less in tune again. The Zelensky-Zaluzhny quarrel hasn’t advanced."
"There are clear indications from D.C. that the new Ukraine package will be approved before the end of year. It will be a compromise that will account for domestic U.S. issues, but sooner or later Congress will reach an agreement."
...
"The overall picture in the last few weeks was much more depressing than the actual situation on the frontline."
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"What is the perspective of Ukraine’s operations on the east bank of the Dnipro? From there it’s only 60-70 kilometers to Armyansk in Crimea. If Ukraine breaks through the eastern bank, it will be a huge risk for Russia."
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"Ukraine’s defense has kept steady at Avdiivka so far but there is reason for concern as Avdiivka is itself at ‘tooth’ inside Russia's defensive line. There is a risk of encirclement. It is Ukraine’s closest point to Donetsk. This is the main strategic importance of it to Kyiv."
"For Russia it is also a matter of some symbolic importance. The frontline hasn’t changed much there since 2014."
"Compared to last year when hordes of prisoners died for Bakhmut, Russia's losses come in the majority now from the rows of mobniks. There is a risk that the high casualty rate can grow into discontent in Russian society."
"You can sense some discontent in Russian war blogs but if and when it spreads to the general society, I can’t assess. There was one attempt to organize a soldiers’ mom’s protest in Moscow but that was banned with the excuse of COVID."
"Overall, I don’t see significant change of the frontline this winter. I am mildly surprised that Russia hasn’t yet started massive rocket attacks on Ukraine’s energy infrastructure. Last year it started at the end of October."
"It might mean that Russia wants to launch an even more massive attack than the roughly 100 missiles per day they used last year. They might be waiting for even colder weather to come, although it is already very chilly there."
"Ukraine doesn’t have air defense cover across the country. This means that they can be vulnerable to large-scale missile attacks in some places."
"Zelensky has now confirmed that there will be no elections next year. This is clear. It was strange pressure from a specific part of the U.S. administration to hold the elections. I can’t imagine who'd take the responsibility to open polling stations during the war. The UK didn’t hold elections during World War II. Why would we presume that Ukraine would do it now, especially when its constitution bars it and you can’t amend the constitution during a time of war?"
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"Elsewhere, the EU’s plan to supply Ukraine with a million shells by March 2024 is far behind schedule. It is realistic that they will achieve 60-65% of the plan by March."
"The European and American defense industries say that they need assurances that if they open new production lines, there will be enough orders for the next 5-10 years."
"The development in that direction is still slow. It raises the question if the West actually buys its own rhetoric the need to be prepared for a long war."
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Bauc ::
Da, sam sem tudi upal, da se bodo nekaj zmenili, kakor tudi marsikdo drug sem bil preoptimističen, da je dovolj zdrave pameti na obeh straneh za pogajanje.
Warmongerji tukaj im na zahoud so pa navijali za vojno in jo tudi dobili, sedaj pa še vedno navijajo, da se je treba boriti do zadnjega Ukrajinca!
Optimističnen ni ravno primeren izraz. Rusi so ti servirali, da nimajo namena napasti. Američani so ti pa povedli, da je ruski napad neizbežen. Ti si pač verjel Rusom,ker si ujet v mehurčku ruske propagande. Itak propagando že leta filajo v razne alt right in druge obskurne forume. Je pa razlika med tistimi, ki konzumirajo propagando in onim tipom, ki si ga prilepil, ki je zelo verjetno plačan za širjenje. Ameriški warmongerji so zalagali Stalina z orožjem, da se ni mogel pogajati z Hitlerjem. Ruski warmongerji pa Ho Chi Minha, da se ni mogel pogajati z ZDA. Prekleti amerikanci in rusi.
AtaŠtumf ::
Veš kaj se raje vprašaje, če ukrajinska protiofenziva, potem, ko je dobila tone in tone orožja, ni naredila dobesedno nič konkretnega, vsi zahodni viri optimistično govorijo o max 0.25% nazaj osvojenega ozemlja.
Kaki uspehi bodo sedaj in kako daleč bodo prišli, ko še paco čivka, da se pomoč počasi konkretno manjša in čedalje več ljudi na zahodu pravi, da se je že dovolj pomagalo Ukrajini in da bo počasi konec večjih pošiljk orožja?
Aja, saj res, pozabil sem na visoleteče obljube Nemčije, ki jih je paco omenjal.
Kaj bodo pa poslali, ko Pistorius sam v nemških medijih razlaga, da niso sposobni popolnoma oborožiti enega nemškega bataljona?
Kaki uspehi bodo sedaj in kako daleč bodo prišli, ko še paco čivka, da se pomoč počasi konkretno manjša in čedalje več ljudi na zahodu pravi, da se je že dovolj pomagalo Ukrajini in da bo počasi konec večjih pošiljk orožja?
Aja, saj res, pozabil sem na visoleteče obljube Nemčije, ki jih je paco omenjal.
Kaj bodo pa poslali, ko Pistorius sam v nemških medijih razlaga, da niso sposobni popolnoma oborožiti enega nemškega bataljona?
#SlovenijaPrva #SLOVEenianLivesMatter #SlavaGasilcem
bluefish ::
Stanje nemške vojske ni rožnato, a tega, kar ti trdiš, ni v članku. Prenehaj z zavajanjem. Zadnje opozorilo.
scythe ::
Veš kaj se raje vprašaje, če ukrajinska protiofenziva, potem, ko je dobila tone in tone orožja, ni naredila dobesedno nič konkretnega, vsi zahodni viri optimistično govorijo o max 0.25% nazaj osvojenega ozemlja.
Kaki uspehi bodo sedaj in kako daleč bodo prišli, ko še paco čivka, da se pomoč počasi konkretno manjša in čedalje več ljudi na zahodu pravi, da se je že dovolj pomagalo Ukrajini in da bo počasi konec večjih pošiljk orožja?
Aja, saj res, pozabil sem na visoleteče obljube Nemčije, ki jih je paco omenjal.
Kaj bodo pa poslali, ko Pistorius sam v nemških medijih razlaga, da niso sposobni popolnoma oborožiti enega nemškega bataljona?
Osvojila je več kot Rusija v prejšni protiofenzivi. Glede orožja je pa tako, če je dobila 50% obljubenga orožja iz zahoda, je to veliko. Žal ste nekateri ****** in verjamete vse, kar rečejo da bo Ukrajina dobila. Samo poglej si 155mm granate, koliko naj bi jih dobila in koliko je dejansko prejela, leto 2023 se pa zaključuje.
X670F | 7700X | 2x16Gb | 6000Mhz/CL30 | RTX3090FTW3 | HP X27i | Phanteks NV7|
gozdar1 ::
Ruska propaganda že več vse od kar se je "posebna operacija" izkazala za fjasko, goni zgodbo o brezpredmetnosti podpore ukrajini aka. dajmo se pogajat, seveda pod ruskimi pogoji (=kapitulacija).
Bauc ::
Veš kaj se raje vprašaje, če ukrajinska protiofenziva, potem, ko je dobila tone in tone orožja, ni naredila dobesedno nič konkretnega, vsi zahodni viri optimistično govorijo o max 0.25% nazaj osvojenega ozemlja.
Kaki uspehi bodo sedaj in kako daleč bodo prišli, ko še paco čivka, da se pomoč počasi konkretno manjša in čedalje več ljudi na zahodu pravi, da se je že dovolj pomagalo Ukrajini in da bo počasi konec večjih pošiljk orožja?
Aja, saj res, pozabil sem na visoleteče obljube Nemčije, ki jih je paco omenjal.
Kaj bodo pa poslali, ko Pistorius sam v nemških medijih razlaga, da niso sposobni popolnoma oborožiti enega nemškega bataljona?
V članku piše, da so morali pobrati orožje pri drugih enotah, da so izpopolnili enoto za hitro posredovanje. Sicer je govora o brigadi in ne bataljonu. Zato so pa dvignili proračun za oborožitev. Tudi oni so nasedli Rusom, da ne bodo sprožili nove vojne v Evropi. Vsaka šola nekaj stane. Nikoli ni prepozno. Američani so pred Ww2 imeli parkrat manjši vojaški proračun kot Nemčija. Zdaj je čas za bikovske injekcije v obrambno industrijo
Pac-Man ::
Celovečerec "20 dni v Mariupolu" je na PBS brezplačno & brez registracije, ampak moraš bit v ZDA
https://www.pbs.org/video/20-days-in-ma...
20 Days in Mariupol @ Wikipedia
https://www.pbs.org/video/20-days-in-ma...
20 Days in Mariupol @ Wikipedia
The film was included in the competition of Sundance Film Festival in the World Cinema Documentary Competition category. The world premiere of the film took place at the festival in January 2023.[21] Film won Audience Award in World Cinema Documentary category.
20 Days in Mariupol received several awards later in 2023: Cinema for Peace as the best documentary of the year,[22] Standing Up award at Cleveland International Film Festival.[23] The Ukrainian premiere took place at the Docudays UA festival and film took the main award.[24] At the New Zealand documentary film festival Doc Edge, 20 Days in Mariupol was awarded in two nominations: Best Director (Mstyslav Chernov) and Best Editing (Michelle Mizner).[25] Later, the film received The Tim Hetherington Award at Sheffield DocFest.[26]
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
Sergey Mironov @ Wikipedia, tip z wagnerjevo macolo na spodnji fotki, je posvojil približno leto staro dojenčico iz Hersona. BBC:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-6...
tudi
https://twitter.com/prof_preobr/status/...
Sem se malo poglobil v Volodina
Vyacheslav Volodin @ Wikipedia
https://twitter.com/alexkokcharov/statu...
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/put...
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-6...
tudi
https://twitter.com/prof_preobr/status/...
Putin is divorced and does not appear with his daughters.
Matvienko lived separately from him for many years before her husband’s death.
Volodin is gay.
Mironov is actually married for the fifth time.
And these people unanimously demand that we adhere to “traditional family values.”
Sem se malo poglobil v Volodina
Vyacheslav Volodin @ Wikipedia
https://twitter.com/alexkokcharov/statu...
Curiously, while Russia is increasing repression against LGBTQ+ people, there are many such people among the Kremlin's ruling elite. Chairman of the Duma, the lower chamber of parliament, which approved today's bill, Vyacheslav Volodin is rumoured to be gay.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/put...
Vyacheslav Volodin, Chairman of the State Duma, posted a Telegram poll this summer on whether his followers considered it ‘necessary to introduce a ban on propaganda of non-traditional values’. He himself stated that he firmly believed in introducing one. Yet Volodin is also a politician whose sexuality has been whispered about so much online, along with a routine accusation in the state media that this was a US smear. As a result, it became a common joke at one point in Russia to follow any mention of the man’s name with the words ‘and by the way Volodin is not gay’. It was a slogan taken up in 2015, when subversive posters were hung in Moscow stating that not only was Volodin still ‘not gay’, but also German Gref (the head of Russia’s Sberbank) was definitely ‘not gay’ either. This settled the matter once and for all and it’s surely Volodin’s emphatic and even flamboyant not-gayness that has made him such a keen advocate of this new campaign.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
Celovečerec "20 dni v Mariupolu" je na PBS brezplačno & brez registracije, ampak moraš bit v ZDA
https://www.pbs.org/video/20-days-in-ma...
Pogledal, ampak težko. Na koncu bi najraje zbrcal Nebenzijo in njegov fake news, ki mu še sam ne verjame. Cel film je težek in na trenutke meji na snuff, kar v bistvu tudi je, sploh prizori iz bolnic. Ampak je prav, da se pokaže in ne pometa pod preprogo ruske propagande. Samo kaj, ko imajo tisti, ki bi bili ogleda najbolj potrebni, spet najmanj interesa.
Dve mali izjemi v tej depra sceni sta dumbass v 1/3, ki se je odločil, da bi si bilo iz bombardirane trgovine pametno sposodit periferijo in gaming stol, ter skupina civilov proti koncu, ki so sveto prepričani, da jih bombardira ukrajinsko letalstvo. Stockholm syndrome hits hard.
IMO bodo surovi posnetki vrhunski dokazni material na prihajajočem procesu o vojnih zločinih.
Da ne pozabim, po moji oceni v celem filmu ni besede v Ukrajinščini. Vsi, od civilov, do zdravnikov, novinarjev, policistov in vojakov govorijo Rusko.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
Video s fronte, vozniku se je tako mudilo na varno, da je zbil soborca
https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/sta...
Gre za tole
https://twitter.com/naalsio26/status/17...
Prve Mad Max modifikacije
https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/sta...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
Pred dnevi sem videl izjavi dveh mlajših študiranih žensk, poslanke in direktorice nekega inštituta, da bi morali prenehat s promoviranjem študija med dekleti, ker biološka ura tiktaka...
https://twitter.com/IuliiaMendel/status...
The add in Russia: 1 photo says: Protect me today. 2 photo says: I’ll be able to defend you tomorrow.
Putin tries to ban abortions to grow the generations of soldiers. He encourages women to deliver kids with the idea of militarising them since childhood.
A Russian can leave the signature for abortion ban in the “closest” church.
Geraščenko je objavil trominutmi miks video s podnapisi
https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/sta...
"The reluctance to have a child is now completely contrary to state policy" - Russian officials of all levels call women to start having children early (at 20) and have more children.
This could be the indicator that apart from needing more cannon fodder and more labor force, Russian authorities don't want to have an educated and free-thinking population. In Russia, families with many children are usually rather poor, many on the brink of survival. These children often aren't able to get university degrees and start working low-level jobs as early as possible to contribute to the family budget.
The Kremlin has seen that smart people can be dangerous. So it wants a lot of poor people and, as an added bonus, give women fewer chances for education, career and independence.
Kot je zadevo komentiral Darth Putin - rabimo žive otroke, da jih spremenimo v mrtve vojake.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
Malenkost smrdi, ampak Rothrock ni ravno pro-ukrajinski akter
https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/statu...
https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/statu...
Fifth graders outside Moscow reportedly got a lesson in battlefield first aid, including mock amputations, in a recent patriotic education class. Teachers also blasted some Shaman music beforehand to psyche 'em up.
https://t.me/nenorma_project/586?single
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
AtaŠtumf ::
Še malce zavajanja bi nekateri tukaj rekli...
EU promises to Ukraine are only "symbolic". EU fails to deliver the ammunition it promised to Ukraine.
EU promises to Ukraine are only "symbolic". EU fails to deliver the ammunition it promised to Ukraine.
#SlovenijaPrva #SLOVEenianLivesMatter #SlavaGasilcem
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nejcek74 ::
Še malce zavajanja bi nekateri tukaj rekli...
EU promises to Ukraine are only "symbolic". EU fails to deliver the ammunition it promised to Ukraine.
torej Dotcomove lepljenke so tvoj vir informiranja?
Bauc ::
Še malce zavajanja bi nekateri tukaj rekli...
EU promises to Ukraine are only "symbolic". EU fails to deliver the ammunition it promised to Ukraine.
Seveda zavajaš ampak ti je delno oproščeno, ker si tudi sam zaveden. Milijon granat bo dobavljeno ampak verjetno ne do marca 2024.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/...
Lonsarg ::
Pa saj to je klasika da so želje in cilji večji kot potem res uspe. Ampak je čisto prav da se velike cilje zastavi, da je potem pritisk čimvečji.
Ne glede na vse probleme dobave orožja ukrajini je dejstvo da je Rusija izgubila artelijsko premoč ki jo je imela prvih 18 mesecev. Ne samo da sta se izenačili po številu izstreljenih izstrelkov, zadnje mesece je Ukrajina že celo malo prehitela Rusijo. Rusija je padla iz 20-60k na dan v začetku vojne na sedanjih 6k na dan, oziroma tu nekje so cifre.
Ne glede na vse probleme dobave orožja ukrajini je dejstvo da je Rusija izgubila artelijsko premoč ki jo je imela prvih 18 mesecev. Ne samo da sta se izenačili po številu izstreljenih izstrelkov, zadnje mesece je Ukrajina že celo malo prehitela Rusijo. Rusija je padla iz 20-60k na dan v začetku vojne na sedanjih 6k na dan, oziroma tu nekje so cifre.
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fur80 ::
Zakaj bi Zahod govoril resnico o dobavljenih granatah? Najboljše bi bilo, da bi na TV govorili, da nismo sposobni proizvesti 500 000 granat, kaj šele 1 miljon, da ne gre... v resnici bi jim jih dostavili 2 miljona. Prej ko res niso bili pripravljeni, so oglaševali 3 HIMARSE kot da so konjenica, Rusi so jih "uničili" 20 in več, še tiste Poljske in tiste, ki jih bodo naredili čez 10 let. Če šiba kdaj orožje tja iz Zahoda, verjetno sedaj ko je vse tiho.
Pac-Man ::
Še malce zavajanja bi nekateri tukaj rekli...
EU promises to Ukraine are only "symbolic". EU fails to deliver the ammunition it promised to Ukraine.
Seveda zavajaš ampak ti je delno oproščeno, ker si tudi sam zaveden. Milijon granat bo dobavljeno ampak verjetno ne do marca 2024.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/...
Glavni problem je francosko vztrajanje, da so vse granate iz tega paketa made in EU. Rheinmetall ima recimo blazno proizvodnjo v Južni Afriki, ampak to ni OK.
Rheinmetall Denel Munition – Range Dominance: Going the distance. And then some.
Je pa flip side, da bo imela posledično EU mnogo večje proizvodne kapacitete, samo malo dlje bo trajalo. Seveda Ukrajina nima ravno časa čakat, da se mi zmigamo...
in za kar sem prišel sem
https://twitter.com/raging545/status/17...
IMAGES of Ukrainian soldiers training in the Kyiv region with modular tanks on rails.
Verjetno Sovjetski učni pripomočki za posadko v kupoli.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Malidelničar ::
Pac-Man: malce off-topic, kako to da ima Rheinmetall proizvodnjo v JAR?
Don't invest like a Joe. Invest like a Simon.
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kow ::
JAR je med apartheidom zelo razvila vojasko industrijo.
Armscor (South Africa) @ Wikipedia
Denel @ Wikipedia
Rheinmetall Denel Munition (Rheinmetall holds 51% and Denel holds 49% of the shares). Zakaj so prodali delez, pa ne vem.
Verjetno je povezano z:
In 2004, Denel CEO Victor Moche informed parliament that the company was near bankruptcy after suffering a loss in the financial year 2003/4 of R358 million contributing to a mounting company debt of R1 billion. This was blamed on a lack of access to foreign markets and not being able to secure domestic arms procurement contracts
Armscor (South Africa) @ Wikipedia
Denel @ Wikipedia
Rheinmetall Denel Munition (Rheinmetall holds 51% and Denel holds 49% of the shares). Zakaj so prodali delez, pa ne vem.
Verjetno je povezano z:
In 2004, Denel CEO Victor Moche informed parliament that the company was near bankruptcy after suffering a loss in the financial year 2003/4 of R358 million contributing to a mounting company debt of R1 billion. This was blamed on a lack of access to foreign markets and not being able to secure domestic arms procurement contracts
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Lonsarg ::
Skratka malo sem googlal kake so dejanske taktike, kaj res dogaja v tej vojni, brez nekega napihovanja in subjektivnosti in fokusiranja na neke posamezne vasice, kar je popularno v mainstream medijih.
Zaenkrat kaže da so Ukrajinci z fronto v Zaporožju pridobili vsaj delni fire control nad Tokmakom in so tudi že uspeli vlak med premikanjem zadet. Torej Tokmak logistika je dolgoročno pečena (kratkoročno pa imajo še zaloge najbrž). Trenutna Ruska dolgoročna taktika naj bi bila nova železnica po jugu Zaporožja ob obali, ki bi to pridobljeno pozicijo Ukrajincev izničila (in s tem izničila celo južno ofenzivo).
Tak da v bistvu poteka bitka z časom kdo bo prej, a bo prej Ukrajina uspela atricijsko Zaporožje spravit na kolena ali bodo prej Rusi to novo logistiko ob morju uspeli vzpostavit. Tisti ki zmaga to bitko s časom bo najbrž dobil Zaporožje, zna pa pomoje ta atricijska vojna trajat leto/dve. US/EU pa z premalo/prepočasno dobavo orožja močno upočasnuje atricijsko izčrpavanje Rusov v Zaporožju in zna zato to bitko s časom dobiti Rusija.
Zaenkrat kaže da so Ukrajinci z fronto v Zaporožju pridobili vsaj delni fire control nad Tokmakom in so tudi že uspeli vlak med premikanjem zadet. Torej Tokmak logistika je dolgoročno pečena (kratkoročno pa imajo še zaloge najbrž). Trenutna Ruska dolgoročna taktika naj bi bila nova železnica po jugu Zaporožja ob obali, ki bi to pridobljeno pozicijo Ukrajincev izničila (in s tem izničila celo južno ofenzivo).
Tak da v bistvu poteka bitka z časom kdo bo prej, a bo prej Ukrajina uspela atricijsko Zaporožje spravit na kolena ali bodo prej Rusi to novo logistiko ob morju uspeli vzpostavit. Tisti ki zmaga to bitko s časom bo najbrž dobil Zaporožje, zna pa pomoje ta atricijska vojna trajat leto/dve. US/EU pa z premalo/prepočasno dobavo orožja močno upočasnuje atricijsko izčrpavanje Rusov v Zaporožju in zna zato to bitko s časom dobiti Rusija.
Zgodovina sprememb…
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Pac-Man ::
Kot napisano, med apartheidom je imela Južna Afrika velikansko vojaško industrijo, vključno z uspešnim jedrskim programom v sodelovanju z Izraelom
South Africa and weapons of mass destruction @ Wikipedia
Vela incident @ Wikipedia
Danes so spet poslali skoraj 80 dronov nad Kijev. Tale 13 mesecev star video, kjer bivši oficir in trenutni poslanec putinove stranke v treh minutah razloži, kako je njihov cilj zmrznit civiliste, pa ima samo 12500 ogledov. Drobiž v primerjavi z raznimi teorijami zarot, žalostno.
Russian lawmakers advocate freezing and starving Ukrainian civilians, turning them into refugees
South Africa and weapons of mass destruction @ Wikipedia
South Africa ended its nuclear weapons programme in 1989. All the bombs (six constructed and one under construction) were dismantled and South Africa acceded to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons when South African Ambassador to the United States Harry Schwarz acceded to the treaty in 1991.
Vela incident @ Wikipedia
The Vela incident was an unidentified double flash of light detected by an American Vela Hotel satellite on 22 September 1979 near the South African territory of Prince Edward Islands in the Indian Ocean, roughly midway between Africa and Antarctica. Today, most independent researchers believe that the flash was caused by a nuclear explosion[1][2][3]—an undeclared joint nuclear test carried out by South Africa and Israel.[4][5]
Danes so spet poslali skoraj 80 dronov nad Kijev. Tale 13 mesecev star video, kjer bivši oficir in trenutni poslanec putinove stranke v treh minutah razloži, kako je njihov cilj zmrznit civiliste, pa ima samo 12500 ogledov. Drobiž v primerjavi z raznimi teorijami zarot, žalostno.
Russian lawmakers advocate freezing and starving Ukrainian civilians, turning them into refugees
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
g. Oden ::
Kot napisano, med apartheidom je imela Južna Afrika velikansko vojaško industrijo, vključno z uspešnim jedrskim programom v sodelovanju z Izraelom
South Africa and weapons of mass destruction @ Wikipedia
South Africa ended its nuclear weapons programme in 1989. All the bombs (six constructed and one under construction) were dismantled and South Africa acceded to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons when South African Ambassador to the United States Harry Schwarz acceded to the treaty in 1991.
Vela incident @ Wikipedia
The Vela incident was an unidentified double flash of light detected by an American Vela Hotel satellite on 22 September 1979 near the South African territory of Prince Edward Islands in the Indian Ocean, roughly midway between Africa and Antarctica. Today, most independent researchers believe that the flash was caused by a nuclear explosion[1][2][3]—an undeclared joint nuclear test carried out by South Africa and Israel.[4][5]
Danes so spet poslali skoraj 80 dronov nad Kijev. Tale 13 mesecev star video, kjer bivši oficir in trenutni poslanec putinove stranke v treh minutah razloži, kako je njihov cilj zmrznit civiliste, pa ima samo 12500 ogledov. Drobiž v primerjavi z raznimi teorijami zarot, žalostno.
Russian lawmakers advocate freezing and starving Ukrainian civilians, turning them into refugees
Takšnih blaznosti še nacistična elita pred in med 2. sv ni govorila, vsaj ne javno. In to polovica slovencev podpira?
Lonsarg ::
Ja to je res veliko pove o Ruski populaciji, da je tam sprejemljivo javno govorit o napadih na civiliste.
Nacistična Nemčija in Izrael in vsi ti režimi ki se spravljajo nad civiliste vsaj na približno to poskusajo skrivati :)
Nacistična Nemčija in Izrael in vsi ti režimi ki se spravljajo nad civiliste vsaj na približno to poskusajo skrivati :)
Zgodovina sprememb…
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Fritz ::
Kdo je že razlagal, da ni nobenega dokaza za trditve kako je zahod preprečil mirovni sporazum med Rusijo in Ukrajino aprila 2022?
https://twitter.com/ornik_saso/status/1...
Saj res, Ukrajinci so samostojni in neodvisni, so se že sami odločili kako in kaj.
https://twitter.com/ornik_saso/status/1...
Saj res, Ukrajinci so samostojni in neodvisni, so se že sami odločili kako in kaj.
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
Fritz ::
Fantki, kar se tiče energetske in druge infrastrukture, so ravno Američani uvedli pojem dual use targets, ki je po njihovem popolnoma legitimen vojaški cilj, kar v vseh svojih vojnah lepo prakticirajo.
https://www.airuniversity.af.edu/Portal...
This paper has reviewed the development of three perspectives to dual-use targets. In the final
analysis, none of the perspectives shows any near-term tendency to outlaw attack on dual-use
targets nor to demand consideration of the long-term, unintended effects of attacking them. From
the legal perspective, Protocol I is a step in the right direction as it outlaws indiscriminate attacks
the effects of which cannot be contained to purely military objectives. While this could arguably
apply to dual-use targets, it is far from certain. Even if it did apply, the further requirement to
apply the rule of proportionality opens up the question of defining the unintended effects. Should
the effects be limited to the direct, immediate effects of the blast, or should they include indirect,
long-term effects? If the answer is the latter, then what is the "statute of limitations" on indirect
effects? As the law doesn't address these issues, and as the US hasn't even ratified Protocol I,
attack of dual-use targets remains a legal gray area.
Finally, the US Air Force has a vested interest in attacking dual-use targets so long as dual-use
target destruction serves the double role of destroying legitimate military capabilities and
indirectly targeting civilian morale. So long as this remains within the letter if not the spirit of the
law and the JWE, the Air Force will cling to the status quo.
Če pa hočete primer načrtnega pobijanja civilistov v vojni pa ravno v tem trenutku poteka en manjši spopadek v zasedeni Palestini, kjer so cionisti v manj kot dveh mesecih načrtno pobili 20.000 civilistov.
https://www.airuniversity.af.edu/Portal...
This paper has reviewed the development of three perspectives to dual-use targets. In the final
analysis, none of the perspectives shows any near-term tendency to outlaw attack on dual-use
targets nor to demand consideration of the long-term, unintended effects of attacking them. From
the legal perspective, Protocol I is a step in the right direction as it outlaws indiscriminate attacks
the effects of which cannot be contained to purely military objectives. While this could arguably
apply to dual-use targets, it is far from certain. Even if it did apply, the further requirement to
apply the rule of proportionality opens up the question of defining the unintended effects. Should
the effects be limited to the direct, immediate effects of the blast, or should they include indirect,
long-term effects? If the answer is the latter, then what is the "statute of limitations" on indirect
effects? As the law doesn't address these issues, and as the US hasn't even ratified Protocol I,
attack of dual-use targets remains a legal gray area.
Finally, the US Air Force has a vested interest in attacking dual-use targets so long as dual-use
target destruction serves the double role of destroying legitimate military capabilities and
indirectly targeting civilian morale. So long as this remains within the letter if not the spirit of the
law and the JWE, the Air Force will cling to the status quo.
Če pa hočete primer načrtnega pobijanja civilistov v vojni pa ravno v tem trenutku poteka en manjši spopadek v zasedeni Palestini, kjer so cionisti v manj kot dveh mesecih načrtno pobili 20.000 civilistov.
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
Pac-Man ::
repliciram na SeymourHersh@10:59 in sumim da bo šlo na dev/null
https://www.rtvslo.si/svet/vojna-v-ukra...
https://www.rtvslo.si/svet/vojna-v-ukra...
To, da nekdo po "šov TV" nekaj trdi, še ne pomeni, da se to tudi dejansko dela.
Ta "nekdo" je upokojeni ruski general in trenutni poslanec putinove stranke. Voljeni predstavnik ljudstva iz stranke na oblasti. "Šov TV" pa pogovorna oddaja na 1. kanalu ruske javne televizije.
V dobrem letu od izjave niso reagirali ne organi stranke ali ruske dume, niti Roskomnadzor, ki je očitno preveč zaposlen z zapiranjem obrobnih opozicijskih medijev in nima časa regulirati TV postaje, ki je prosto dostopna v vseh ruskih domovih.
Ali pa, počakaj malo, je to splošno sprejet konsenz v ruski družbi.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Bauc ::
Kdo je že razlagal, da ni nobenega dokaza za trditve kako je zahod preprečil mirovni sporazum med Rusijo in Ukrajino aprila 2022?
https://twitter.com/ornik_saso/status/1...
Saj res, Ukrajinci so samostojni in neodvisni, so se že sami odločili kako in kaj.
Daj vsaj preberi kaj lepiš. Itak Ukrajinci vejo, da Rusi ne spoštujejo dogovorov. To veš tudi ti ampak še kar nabijaš.
When asked why Ukraine did not agree to this, here’s what he says: “First, in order to agree to this point, it is necessary to change the Constitution. Our path to NATO is written in the Constitution. Secondly, there was no confidence in the Russians that they would do it. This could only be done if there were security guarantees. We could not sign something, step away, everyone would relax there, and then they would [invade] even more prepared – because they had, in fact, gone in unprepared for such a resistance. Therefore, we could only explore this route when there is absolute certainty that this will not happen again. There is no such certainty.
connel ::
Pusti ga, vsi pro-ruski blebetači so isti, če niso vsi ena in ista oseba, eno samo bluzenje in širjenje laži.
Fritz ::
Kdo je že razlagal, da ni nobenega dokaza za trditve kako je zahod preprečil mirovni sporazum med Rusijo in Ukrajino aprila 2022?
https://twitter.com/ornik_saso/status/1...
Saj res, Ukrajinci so samostojni in neodvisni, so se že sami odločili kako in kaj.
Daj vsaj preberi kaj lepiš. Itak Ukrajinci vejo, da Rusi ne spoštujejo dogovorov. To veš tudi ti ampak še kar nabijaš.
When asked why Ukraine did not agree to this, here’s what he says: “First, in order to agree to this point, it is necessary to change the Constitution. Our path to NATO is written in the Constitution. Secondly, there was no confidence in the Russians that they would do it. This could only be done if there were security guarantees. We could not sign something, step away, everyone would relax there, and then they would [invade] even more prepared – because they had, in fact, gone in unprepared for such a resistance. Therefore, we could only explore this route when there is absolute certainty that this will not happen again. There is no such certainty.
Cherrypicking je huda razvada. Prilepi še drug del teksta:
He’s actually not being very forthright about the “no confidence in the Russians so this could only be done if there were security guarantees” claim, because from the media reports at the time in early 2022, this aspect of the deal was getting concretized. It’s even still up on Ukraine’s official presidency website: https://president.gov.ua/en/news/na-per... The concept was that permanent members of the UN Security Council would be the guarantors of the deal, alongside Turkey, Germany, Canada, Italy, Poland and Israel. The issue seems to have been that those security guarantees were “greeted with skepticism” by “Western officials”, as highlighted in this WSJ piece from back then: https://wsj.com/articles/ukraine-propos...
So this, combined with Arakhamia’s confirmation that what really killed the deal was “Boris Johnson [coming] to Kyiv and [saying] that we would not sign anything with them at all, and let's just fight” shows that it is unequivocally the West that killed the peace deal.
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
gozdar1 ::
Članice varnostnega sveta so podpisane tudi na budimpeštanskem memorandumu (med drugim tudi francija in kitajska), pa vidimo kakšno težo to ima.
sir_mha ::
Cherrypicking je huda razvada. Prilepi še drug del teksta:
So this, combined with Arakhamia;s confirmation that what really killed the deal was “Boris Johnson [coming] to Kyiv and [saying] that we would not sign anything with them at all, and let's just fight” shows that it is unequivocally the West that killed the peace deal.
To je sedaj ena interpretacija teh pogovorov. Sem prepričan, da bomo prej ali slej slišali še druge. Že iz te je pa vidno, da seveda Johnsonovo mnenje, kaj bi on naredil, ne pomeni, da so se tako morali odločiti tudi Zelenski in ostali. Na primer, so jim tudi večkrat rekli, da naj ne izvedejo diverzije na plinovod, pa so to očitno naredili.
Bauc ::
Kdo je že razlagal, da ni nobenega dokaza za trditve kako je zahod preprečil mirovni sporazum med Rusijo in Ukrajino aprila 2022?
https://twitter.com/ornik_saso/status/1...
Saj res, Ukrajinci so samostojni in neodvisni, so se že sami odločili kako in kaj.
Daj vsaj preberi kaj lepiš. Itak Ukrajinci vejo, da Rusi ne spoštujejo dogovorov. To veš tudi ti ampak še kar nabijaš.
When asked why Ukraine did not agree to this, here’s what he says: “First, in order to agree to this point, it is necessary to change the Constitution. Our path to NATO is written in the Constitution. Secondly, there was no confidence in the Russians that they would do it. This could only be done if there were security guarantees. We could not sign something, step away, everyone would relax there, and then they would [invade] even more prepared – because they had, in fact, gone in unprepared for such a resistance. Therefore, we could only explore this route when there is absolute certainty that this will not happen again. There is no such certainty.
Cherrypicking je huda razvada. Prilepi še drug del teksta:
He’s actually not being very forthright about the “no confidence in the Russians so this could only be done if there were security guarantees” claim, because from the media reports at the time in early 2022, this aspect of the deal was getting concretized. It’s even still up on Ukraine’s official presidency website: https://president.gov.ua/en/news/na-per... The concept was that permanent members of the UN Security Council would be the guarantors of the deal, alongside Turkey, Germany, Canada, Italy, Poland and Israel. The issue seems to have been that those security guarantees were “greeted with skepticism” by “Western officials”, as highlighted in this WSJ piece from back then: https://wsj.com/articles/ukraine-propos...
So this, combined with Arakhamia’s confirmation that what really killed the deal was “Boris Johnson [coming] to Kyiv and [saying] that we would not sign anything with them at all, and let's just fight” shows that it is unequivocally the West that killed the peace deal.
To ni del intervjuja ampak mnenje proruskega gobezdača. Ukrajinci so dobili podobna varnostna zagotovila v Budimpešti in v drugih sporazumih, ki niso bili vredni nič ampak to ti že tako veš.
Zgodovina sprememb…
- spremenil: Bauc ()
Fritz ::
Lej, do sedaj ste trdili, da ni bilo nobenih pritiskov naj ne gredo v sporazum, sedaj je pa jasno povedano kako je bilo. In ne, to ni neko Johnsonovo mnenje temveč je šlo za uradno stališče, ki seveda ni bilo javno izraženo (diplomacija pa to).
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
Bauc ::
Lej, do sedaj ste trdili, da ni bilo nobenih pritiskov naj ne gredo v sporazum, sedaj je pa jasno povedano kako je bilo. In ne, to ni neko Johnsonovo mnenje temveč je šlo za uradno stališče, ki seveda ni bilo javno izraženo (diplomacija pa to).
Kakšnih pritiskov? Ukrajinci so se sami odločili, da se borijo kot so se rusi sami odločili, da napadejo. Nobena zagotovila zahoda in Rusov ne bodo pomagala popolnoma nič. Sporazum z Rusi velja dokler jim odgovarja pol ga pa vržejo v smeti. Niso se držali sporazumov z ukrajinci, gruzijci, čečeni in seveda se niso držali tudi sporazuma z Prigožinom. Tudi, če bo podpisan nov dogovor z ukrajinci se ga bodo držali samo dokler si ne bodo zlizali ran. Pa ne nabija z NATO. Finska je v Nato pa Ruse to ne moti. Ukrajina v nato bi pomenila, da Rusi ne morejo več napadati ukrajine. To je edini problem za Ruse. Da njihovi sosedi bežijo iz njihove sfere vpliva so pa krivi sami. Denar za luksuz Putina in njegovega kroga bi vlagali v Rusijo in sosede pa bi lahko obdržali vpliv brez groženj. To pa seveda zanje ni opcija.
Fritz ::
Lej, do sedaj ste trdili, da ni bilo nobenih pritiskov naj ne gredo v sporazum, sedaj je pa jasno povedano kako je bilo. In ne, to ni neko Johnsonovo mnenje temveč je šlo za uradno stališče, ki seveda ni bilo javno izraženo (diplomacija pa to).
Kakšnih pritiskov? Ukrajinci so se sami odločili, da se borijo kot so se rusi sami odločili, da napadejo. Nobena zagotovila zahoda in Rusov ne bodo pomagala popolnoma nič. Sporazum z Rusi velja dokler jim odgovarja pol ga pa vržejo v smeti. Niso se držali sporazumov z ukrajinci, gruzijci, čečeni in seveda se niso držali tudi sporazuma z Prigožinom. Tudi, če bo podpisan nov dogovor z ukrajinci se ga bodo držali samo dokler si ne bodo zlizali ran. Pa ne nabija z NATO. Finska je v Nato pa Ruse to ne moti. Ukrajina v nato bi pomenila, da Rusi ne morejo več napadati ukrajine. To je edini problem za Ruse. Da njihovi sosedi bežijo iz njihove sfere vpliva so pa krivi sami. Denar za luksuz Putina in njegovega kroga bi vlagali v Rusijo in sosede pa bi lahko obdržali vpliv brez groženj. To pa seveda zanje ni opcija.
Seveda. kar verjemi v to. Ukrajinci so tako samostojni, da si vse samostojno privoščijo. Sploh ni tako, da jim mi dajemo orožje in denar, da lahko njihova država sploh deluje.
Kar se sporazumov tiče, je glede Minska dovolj izjav zahodnih voditeljev kako kredibilni so bili, skupaj z Ukrajino. Sicer pa vidimo na primeru Palestine, da je sta okupacija in zasedba ozemlja čisto v redu. Rusi so v primerjavi z Izraelci celo izjemno zadržani.
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
Pac-Man ::
Eno nemško Patriot baterijo bodo iz Poljske preselili v Odeso
https://twitter.com/JulianRoepcke/statu...
https://twitter.com/JulianRoepcke/statu...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Bauc ::
Lej, do sedaj ste trdili, da ni bilo nobenih pritiskov naj ne gredo v sporazum, sedaj je pa jasno povedano kako je bilo. In ne, to ni neko Johnsonovo mnenje temveč je šlo za uradno stališče, ki seveda ni bilo javno izraženo (diplomacija pa to).
Kakšnih pritiskov? Ukrajinci so se sami odločili, da se borijo kot so se rusi sami odločili, da napadejo. Nobena zagotovila zahoda in Rusov ne bodo pomagala popolnoma nič. Sporazum z Rusi velja dokler jim odgovarja pol ga pa vržejo v smeti. Niso se držali sporazumov z ukrajinci, gruzijci, čečeni in seveda se niso držali tudi sporazuma z Prigožinom. Tudi, če bo podpisan nov dogovor z ukrajinci se ga bodo držali samo dokler si ne bodo zlizali ran. Pa ne nabija z NATO. Finska je v Nato pa Ruse to ne moti. Ukrajina v nato bi pomenila, da Rusi ne morejo več napadati ukrajine. To je edini problem za Ruse. Da njihovi sosedi bežijo iz njihove sfere vpliva so pa krivi sami. Denar za luksuz Putina in njegovega kroga bi vlagali v Rusijo in sosede pa bi lahko obdržali vpliv brez groženj. To pa seveda zanje ni opcija.
Seveda. kar verjemi v to. Ukrajinci so tako samostojni, da si vse samostojno privoščijo. Sploh ni tako, da jim mi dajemo orožje in denar, da lahko njihova država sploh deluje.
Kar se sporazumov tiče, je glede Minska dovolj izjav zahodnih voditeljev kako kredibilni so bili, skupaj z Ukrajino. Sicer pa vidimo na primeru Palestine, da je sta okupacija in zasedba ozemlja čisto v redu. Rusi so v primerjavi z Izraelci celo izjemno zadržani.
Si ugotovil, da so Rusi in Izraelci barabe? Rusi nimajo možnosti, da bi rušili Ukrajino kot Izrael ruši Gazo. To je edina razlika.
Ukrajina se je odločila, da se bori in jim nihče na zahodu ni zvijal rok. Ne vem zakaj te moti pomoč Ukrajini. Vietnam se je boril, ker so jim pomagali Kitajci in Rusi. Mi in rusi smo se borili proti Hitlerju, ker so nam pomagali drugi. Če imaš dokaze, da je zahod prisilili Ukrajino, da se brani jih daj na plan.
Minska se nisi držali Rusi in njihovi proxiji v donbasu. Izgovore so pa predlagali en na drugega. Rusi baje niso imeli vpliva na na svoje plačance v donbasu, ruski plačanci so se pa trdili, da je sporazum podpisala Rusija in za njih ne velja.
Pac-Man ::
Video s podnapisi
Pravi, da iz ruskih tovarn dobivajo 120mm minometne granate s 4imi polnitvami namesto 9ih. Tako imajo sedaj na zalogi 200 granat, ki jih ne morejo uporabiti
https://twitter.com/PStyle0ne1/status/1...
IMO pomanjkanje surovin, ker z razpolovitvijo polnjenja pri posamezni granati prihraniš/pokradeš bolj malo
Pravi, da iz ruskih tovarn dobivajo 120mm minometne granate s 4imi polnitvami namesto 9ih. Tako imajo sedaj na zalogi 200 granat, ki jih ne morejo uporabiti
https://twitter.com/PStyle0ne1/status/1...
IMO pomanjkanje surovin, ker z razpolovitvijo polnjenja pri posamezni granati prihraniš/pokradeš bolj malo
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Malidelničar ::
Pac-Man: Malce off-topic: Ali imajo Patriot baterije sploh kakšno šibko točko oz. Ahilovo tetivo?
Don't invest like a Joe. Invest like a Simon.
Fritz ::
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Pac-Man: Malce off-topic: Ali imajo Patriot baterije sploh kakšno šibko točko oz. Ahilovo tetivo?
Ne, kot vsa zahodna čudežna orožja (Wunderwaffen) nimajo nobenih šibkih točk, zato so Ukrajinci 20km pred Moskvo in čakajo, kdaj bo Putin podpisal predajo
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
Jarno ::
Če smo realni, me prav čudi, kako Putinovi zagovorniki in oporečniki zahodne pomoči Ukrajini z lahkoto sprejemajo številne žrtve med ruskimi vojaki.
Veselijo pa se vsake porušene vasice v Ukrajini.
BMZ je v nekem spletnem intervjuju govoril o pomenu psihopatov in kako z njimi določeni "delodajalci" dosežejo svoje namene.
Mislim, da bi nekateri iz te teme lahko razmislili o svoji karierni orientaciji.
Veselijo pa se vsake porušene vasice v Ukrajini.
BMZ je v nekem spletnem intervjuju govoril o pomenu psihopatov in kako z njimi določeni "delodajalci" dosežejo svoje namene.
Mislim, da bi nekateri iz te teme lahko razmislili o svoji karierni orientaciji.
#65W!
Bauc ::
Malidelničar je izjavil:
Pac-Man: Malce off-topic: Ali imajo Patriot baterije sploh kakšno šibko točko oz. Ahilovo tetivo?
Ne, kot vsa zahodna čudežna orožja (Wunderwaffen) nimajo nobenih šibkih točk, zato so Ukrajinci 20km pred Moskvo in čakajo, kdaj bo Putin podpisal predajo
Daj vir, da so Ukrajinci hoteli okupirati Rusijo in je neuspeh, ker niso 20 km pred Moskovo. Rusi so sicer bili manj kot 20 km pred Kijevem in so čakali, da Zelenski podpiše predajo
Sicer je Patriot dokazal, da Kinžal ni Wunderwaffe kot so ga prodajali RusiČe smo realni, me prav čudi, kako Putinovi zagovorniki in oporečniki zahodne pomoči Ukrajini z lahkoto sprejemajo številne žrtve med ruskimi vojaki.
Veselijo pa se vsake porušene vasice v Ukrajini.
BMZ je v nekem spletnem intervjuju govoril o pomenu psihopatov in kako z njimi določeni "delodajalci" dosežejo svoje namene.
Mislim, da bi nekateri iz te teme lahko razmislili o svoji karierni orientaciji.
Najbolj čudno je, da se jim smilijo Ukrajinci za Ruse jim je pa popolnoma vseeno. Zanimivi paradoks.
Zgodovina sprememb…
- spremenil: Bauc ()
Pac-Man ::
Malidelničar je izjavil:
Pac-Man: Malce off-topic: Ali imajo Patriot baterije sploh kakšno šibko točko oz. Ahilovo tetivo?
Rakete so pod kotom in posamezen lanser ne pokriva 360 stopinj. Toliko iz glave.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Bauc ::
Tovarna dronov, visi tudi US, UK zastava.
Za rajo je drugačen oder
Predvidevam, da je posnetek iz airshowa v Dubaju. Rusi so uspeli skleniti dobre posle.
https://www.newsweek.com/us-arms-makers...
Russian officials brought with them to the exhibition 250 samples of weapons and equipment, but its state aerospace and defense company Rosoboronexport did not secure a single contract during the event, The Moscow Times reported.