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zmaugy je 12. jan 2017 ob 15:42 izjavil:

Matako je 12. jan 2017 ob 15:38 izjavil:

zmaugy je 12. jan 2017 ob 14:45 izjavil:

A veš po čem se še razlikujejo od redneckov? Po tem da so običajno pametnejši in bolj uspešni. Kar pomeni, da bojo znanje o orožju pojedli za zajtrk. Do zdaj se jim zgolj ni bilo treba ubadati s tem, zdaj so dali to na spisek.
In gre po vodi edina uporabna stvar, v kateri so (bili) rednecki boljši.

Ja, ja, pazite se jeznih SJWjev!!!

Saj je hecno vse skupaj. Pet minut. Ampak v bistvu se ve, kakšni ljudje se prerinejo v zgornji del prehranjevalne verige. In zdaj si nabavljajo orožje.

Živeti na račun drugih (davkoplačevalcev, sorodnikov) je le na videz "zgornji del prehranjevalne verige". Toliko časa dokler se tolerira - naceljni smo dobri, potrpežljivi ljudje. A tudi naše potrpljenje ni neskončno ...

Še več detajlov o škandaloznem poročilu

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/38589427

Claims about a Russian blackmail tape were made in one of a series of reports written by a former British intelligence agent, understood to be Christopher Steele.

As a member of MI6, he had been posted to the UK's embassy in Moscow and now runs a consultancy giving advice on doing business in Russia. He spoke to a number of his old contacts in the FSB, the successor to the KGB, paying some of them for information.

They told him that Mr Trump had been filmed with a group of prostitutes in the presidential suite of Moscow's Ritz-Carlton hotel. I know this because the Washington political research company that commissioned his report showed it to me during the final week of the election campaign.

The BBC decided not to use it then, for the very good reason that without seeing the tape - if it exists - we could not know if the claims were true.

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One Russian specialist told me that Vladimir Putin himself sometimes says there is kompromat on him - though perhaps he is joking. The specialist went on to tell me that FSB officers are prone to boasting about having tapes on public figures, and to be careful of any statements they might make.

A former CIA officer told me he had spoken by phone to a serving FSB officer who talked about the tapes. He concluded: "It's hokey as hell."

Mr Trump and his supporters are right to point out that these are unsubstantiated allegations.

in o FISA odločbah. To je prava zgodba.

On 15 October, the US secret intelligence court issued a warrant to investigate two Russian banks. This news was given to me by several sources and corroborated by someone I will identify only as a senior member of the US intelligence community. He would never volunteer anything - giving up classified information would be illegal - but he would confirm or deny what I had heard from other sources.

"I'm going to write a story that says…" I would say. "I don't have a problem with that," he would reply, if my information was accurate. He confirmed the sequence of events below.

Last April, the CIA director was shown intelligence that worried him. It was - allegedly - a tape recording of a conversation about money from the Kremlin going into the US presidential campaign.

It was passed to the US by an intelligence agency of one of the Baltic States. The CIA cannot act domestically against American citizens so a joint counter-intelligence taskforce was created.

Lawyers from the National Security Division in the Department of Justice then drew up an application. They took it to the secret US court that deals with intelligence, the Fisa court, named after the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. They wanted permission to intercept the electronic records from two Russian banks.

Their first application, in June, was rejected outright by the judge. They returned with a more narrowly drawn order in July and were rejected again. Finally, before a new judge, the order was granted, on 15 October, three weeks before election day.

Neither Mr Trump nor his associates are named in the Fisa order, which would only cover foreign citizens or foreign entities - in this case the Russian banks. But ultimately, the investigation is looking for transfers of money from Russia to the United States, each one, if proved, a felony offence.

A lawyer- outside the Department of Justice but familiar with the case - told me that three of Mr Trump's associates were the subject of the inquiry. "But it's clear this is about Trump," he said.

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The investigation was active going into the election. During that period, the leader of the Democrats in the Senate, Harry Reid, wrote to the director of the FBI, accusing him of holding back "explosive information" about Mr Trump.

Mr Reid sent his letter after getting an intelligence briefing, along with other senior figures in Congress. Only eight people were present: the chairs and ranking minority members of the House and Senate intelligence committees, and the leaders of the Democratic and Republican parties in Congress, the "gang of eight" as they are sometimes called. Normally, senior staff attend "gang of eight" intelligence briefings, but not this time. The Congressional leaders were not even allowed to take notes.

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It is an extraordinary situation, 10 days before Mr Trump is sworn into office, but it was foreshadowed during the campaign.

During the final presidential debate, Hillary Clinton called Donald Trump a "puppet" of Russia's leader, Vladimir Putin. "No puppet. No puppet," Mr Trump interjected, talking over Mrs Clinton. "You're the puppet. No, you're the puppet."

In a New York Times op-ed in August, the former director of the CIA, Michael Morell, wrote: "In the intelligence business, we would say that Mr Putin had recruited Mr Trump as an unwitting agent of the Russian Federation."

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Michael Hayden, former head of both the CIA and the NSA, simply called Mr Trump a "polezni durak" - a useful fool.

The background to those statements was information held - at the time - within the intelligence community. Now all Americans have heard the claims. Little more than a week before his inauguration, they will have to decide if their president-elect really was being blackmailed by Moscow.

Če se stvari konkretno ne spremenijo, bo Trump odpoklican. Postopek je preprost - navadna večina v kongresu in 2/3 v senatu. Vzrok po želji, lahko tudi zato, ker ne zna jest pice.

http://www.cc.com/video-clips/0ect4f/th...

Ne gre za sodni proces, ampak predstavniki ljudstva samo ugotovijo, da nekdo ni sposoben/primeren zadanim nalogam.

Pac-Man je 12. jan 2017 ob 15:52 izjavil:

Če se stvari konkretno ne spremenijo, bo Trump odpoklican.

Bo pa potrebnega še kaj več kot izjave enga bivšega angleškega vohuna inu neki dokumenti neznanega izvora. Usefull fool kot praviš...

xxxul je 12. jan 2017 ob 16:29 izjavil:

Bo pa potrebnega še kaj več kot izjave enga bivšega angleškega vohuna inu neki dokumenti neznanega izvora. Usefull fool kot praviš...

Okej?

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3119...

Mattis trenutno priča

Pac-Man je 12. jan 2017 ob 17:28 izjavil:

Okej?

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3119...

To je to == impeachment? Resno?

“There are 100 United States senators. ... I would say that 99 percent of us believe that the Russians did this, and we’re going to do something about it,” Graham told CNN’s Jim Sciutto on “The Situation Room” on Tuesday.

Ne. Impeachment je pljuvanje po vseh segmentih ameriške politične, obrambne in ekonomske mašinerije, nepoznavanje političnih procesov in malo morje etičnih problemov, ki bodo skoraj zagotovo rezultirali v lepem razlogu za odpoklic.

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/arti...

mtosev je 12. jan 2017 ob 18:01 izjavil:

resno vprašanje kolk je verjetno, da bo Trump odpoklican

upanje umre zadnje, napovedi odpoklica so pa realne približn tolk kot so ble napovedi za rezultat volitev.

Matako> Ja, ja, pazite se jeznih SJWjev!!!

Ti se kar smej. Enkrat, ko boš še posebej slabe volje, v rikverc preberi besedo "partizan".

ZaphodBB> Res?

Tvoja naivnost ne pozna meja:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-38593496

No, po drugi strani ti je pa svetli vzor demokratične države končno ustregel z "neregresivno" zakonodajo:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38...

U2 Won't Release New Album Because Of Donald Trump

Pa kaj te bedne figure iz šov biznisa res mislijo, da so neke moralne avtoritete, da jih morajo normalni ljudje upoštevati. Nekoč v starem Rimu so imeli glasbeniki in igralci isti družbeni status kot prostitutke. Upam, da bo Trump te nore pevce in igralce postavil nazaj na tisto družbeno mesto kamor spadajo, to je med prostitutke.

Zagor_tenay je 12. jan 2017 ob 19:21 izjavil:

U2 Won't Release New Album Because Of Donald Trump

Pa kaj te bedne figure iz šov biznisa res mislijo, da so neke moralne avtoritete, da jih morajo normalni ljudje upoštevati. Nekoč v starem Rimu so imeli glasbeniki in igralci isti družbeni status kot prostitutke. Upam, da bo Trump te nore pevce in igralce postavil nazaj na tisto družbeno mesto kamor spadajo, to je med prostitutke.

Ko zabavljači, naključni godci in liki, ki se žogajo dobijo kolikor toliko solidno plačo, kaj kmalu pozabijo, da je njihov edini razlog za obstoj, da nas zabavajo. Nobenega drugega smisla ni.

To je tudi zaradi tega, ker tok denarja ni neposreden. Glede tega si je ena profica precej bolj na jasnem, ker so transakcije direktnejše in jasnejše.

Matako je 12. jan 2017 ob 16:01 izjavil:

Spet preveč investirate. Ste niste nič naučili iz "trdega pristanka" novembra?

Ja, mogoče bo Donnie odpoklican. Fajn!

Ampak... mogoče pa tudi ne bo. Kaj pa potem? Ste pripravljeni tudi na to hipotetično možnost?

Vazelin je zaenkrat še dostopen po razumnih cenah.

Ma dej źe nehi s tem arhaičnim kolomazom al vazelinom al kaj že.
Danes so IN dosti bolj napredni mazilni preparati.
Grow up, get a life!

Vanich je 12. jan 2017 ob 22:39 izjavil:

Obamina psica ugriznila deklico v obraz.

I like that title a lot. In ne - to ni bila Michele - she is a he.
Lahko bi bila edino Clintonka - ampak ona je bolj cunt kot pa bitch, čeprav je pa res, da je oboje.

Pepca, ni še vsaka, ki ti sesuje Srbijo, tudi Cunt ali Bitch.
Manire, prosim!

Če začne Matako o lubrikantih pisat bi še kdo mislu da avto popravlja
Ko napiše vazelin je pa vsem jasno kak pa kej---

Pac-Man je 12. jan 2017 ob 18:23 izjavil:

Kar se mene tiče sta edini možnosti, da ni odpoklican

1) če ostro spremeni kurz
2) če bo res blazno popularen predsednik

Trenutno dela na tem, da bo sprt s celotnim Washingtonom, za impechment se moraš zamerit samo polovici kongresa in 2/3 senata. Pomaga, če ti lahko računajo, da jim volivci glasu ne bodo šteli v minus.

Zaenkrat Trump vztraja na začrtani smeri, jagodni izbor zadnjega dne

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump

@CNN is in a total meltdown with their FAKE NEWS because their ratings are tanking since election and their credibility will soon be gone!

Congrats to the Senate for taking the first step to #RepealObamacare- now it's onto the House!

It now turns out that the phony allegations against me were put together by my political opponents and a failed spy afraid of being sued....

Totally made up facts by sleazebag political operatives, both Democrats and Republicans - FAKE NEWS! Russia says nothing exists. Probably...//vsak ki spremlja Ukrajino in Sirijo ve, koliko gre Rusiji verjeti na besedo :)

released by "Intelligence" even knowing there is no proof, and never will be. My people will have a full report on hacking within 90 days! //"intelligence" očitno niso "his people". Kdo torej so? FSB? :)

What are Hillary Clinton's people complaining about with respect to the F.B.I. Based on the information they had she should never.....

have been allowed to run - guilty as hell. They were VERY nice to her. She lost because she campaigned in the wrong states - no enthusiasm!

Ne vem, če sem kdaj videl bolj užaljenega zmagovalca.

Je rekordno nepopularen bodoči predsednik

https://twitter.com/matthewjdowd/status...

Gallup Presidential transition approval (net):
Trump -7
Obama +71
Bush +36
Clinton +50
Trump dropped 13 pts in month among Independents

Potem je ušlo

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions...

Schindler je apoplektičen

https://twitter.com/20committee

Flynn is a traitor. Nothing to discuss.

Americans have been executed for much less

New National Security Advisor spends a lot of time on the phone with top Russians. Why? America has been betrayed. Fight while you can.

Flynn and his son have both been on the Kremlin's payroll. Verified by top-level NATO intel. They're traitors who deserve a traitor's fate.

This is the most important story in months. Proof that Trump is a wholly owned Kremlin franchise. Tell everyone.

You know who monitors phone calls. IC has had enough. Kremlin buttboi traitor can't fill the shoes of Washington, Lincoln, FDR, JFK, Reagan.

Why so many calls to the Russian Embassy, @GenFlynn? Is this because the Kremlin paid you or your neo-Nazi son?

When @IgnatiusPost speaks, Langley's 7th floor lips are moving. Zero disrespect, just a fact. They are taking traitor Trump out now.

Biggest deal about last night's Flynn story is that as career MI he surely knows calls to the RUEMBDC are intercepted. He didn't care.

PEOTUS is angry at the opposition and his own party, basically everyone.His only friend is the KGB thug in the Kremlin.Welcome to 2017.

Sam nebi šel v toliko drame. Mali je precej očitno relativno nesposoben, saj dela kot očetov osebni pomočnik, stari je pa pobral ruski $$, dokler ga je lahko.

Še malo rumenega. Madžarka obtožuje Trumpa, da jo je l. 2013 v Moskvi povabil v svojo sobo. Kar nasprotuje njegovim trditvam, da je celo svoje varnostnike, profesionalce, opozoril, naj v Rusiji ne počeno nič kočljivega. Ker ve, da so kamere povsod.

http://bbj.hu/culture/hungarian-celeb-c...

Hungarian celebrity Kata Sarka claims President-elect Donald J. Trump invited her over to his hotel room in Moscow in 2013 at a party following that year’s Miss Universe beauty pageant, Hungarian online news portal index.hu reported yesterday, citing a story from tabloid paper Blikk from the end of last year.

Sarka first talked about the alleged event last May on “Kasza Taxi”, a Hungarian show focusing on local celebrities being interviewed during a car ride.

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“He asked me who I was and what I was doing in Moscow. He was kind; he gave me his business card with his private phone number and invited me over to his room. I was surprised but, obviously, I did not take it seriously,” the celebrity claimed. (...) She also said that Trump is “not her type”.

V kolikor dama ne laže, imajo Rusi komprimat o Trumpu. Miljavžent procentov. Zagotovo se ni sposoben obranit uslug FSB escort servicea.

Samo za zabavo, komentarji z

https://twitter.com/20committee

Note that the model, Kata Sarka, told her story back in May, long before Trump kompromat was a Thing....seems credible

Wasn't Trump just telling the world he's totally aware of how Russian hotel rooms are wired so be a good boy? Was I imagining that?

So either Trump is a pathological liar (very possible) or he knowingly makes sex videos for the FSB. No 3rd option anymore.

Apparently Trump's legendary germophobia goes away when he lands in Russia. Is there an FSB spray? Could PEOTUS be a medical case-study?

I really don't care about Trump grabbin' pussy -- but if he did in Russia, which he JUST denied ever doing, or even contemplating....

Trump is a germophobe like gluten-free hippies who would take any drug from a total stranger at a party are "health conscious"

Pac-Man je imho iz strani ZDA ambasade plačan po sporočilu/besedah, zato njegovo trolanje ne preneha.
No, če dela zastonj je Useful idiot @ Wikipedia .

konspirator je 13. jan 2017 ob 17:12 izjavil:

Pac-Man je imho iz strani ZDA ambasade plačan po sporočilu/besedah, zato njegovo trolanje ne preneha.
No, če dela zastonj je Useful idiot @ Wikipedia .

smrekar1 je v nekem postu to celo zapisal da kao dela za USA (v zajebanciji tko da ne resno jemat).
Za Pac-Man pa poglej kdaj je naredu račun, v kateri temi se je najprej razpisoval, pa ti bo hitr jasno (not USA), ampak Trumpa glih tko ne marajo ;).

Tam (vseh portalih) kjer so najmočnejši linki mrbit?

@Pac-Man:
Hvala za razlago. Sedaj razumem tvoja stališča, a ne vidim poante v tem početju. Vsakomur svoje, kjane?

xxxul je 13. jan 2017 ob 18:43 izjavil:

So mnenja sploh lahko objektivna? Čisto po definiciji? IMHO samo dejstva.

In če napišem, da je nekdo apoplektičen, ga prodajam kot močno objektivnega?

V zadnjih dneh/tednih sem se močno obesil na Schindlerja ker je zelo zanimiv vir. Ex NSA analitik, doktorat iz zgodovine, spisal je par knjig,

https://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&text=J...

sodeloval v kakem dokumentarcu,



pozna sceno in je svoje vedenje pripravljen deliti s širnim svetom.

Sem prepričan, da obstaja tudi članek
Why Trump can't win election

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/d...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/kar...
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/09/27/why-the-...
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/poll-trum...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...

Hangover ja vse "trumpofane" se nadaljuje.

konspirator> Sem prepričan, da obstaja tudi članek

Ah, Trumpu se boste njegovi občudovalci zagotovo pustili nategnit, v to nihče ne dvomi.

Kar pravimo je to, da Trump ne more izpolniti svojih obljub - ampak itak njegov tipičen volilec ne zmore ohranjati pozornosti dovolj dolgo, da bi lahko od njega karkoli terjal.

mtosev je 13. jan 2017 ob 20:06 izjavil:

kolk ljudi tu misli, da bo Trump zdržal 4leta? jaz ne vem, a upam, da ne bo zdržal

Gibanje ki ga je sprožil je večno.

alzo

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/ear...

The man behind the dossier is a former British spy, Christopher Steele, who is now a corporate intelligence consultant. In 2010, Steele helped deliver information about FIFA to the FBI that eventually led to indictments of many current and former officials of the soccer governing body, as well as the ouster of longtime FIFA president Sepp Blatter.

Še 7 dni in končno se bo spokal najslabši predsednik v zgodovini Amerike

Pa ja no saj vemo, da je Vladimir Putin the big boss ampak Putin hoče mir zato je predsednik Trump če bi zmagala crooked Kilalry bi bila vojna.

At most extreme, could the new president be impeached and how?

We are currently a very long way from this point, but not so far to prevent speculation about whether Trump could be impeached. Were Trump's team to be found to have conspired with the Kremlin to distort the 2016 presidential election, that would certainly fall into the impeachable category. But, again, it is entirely unsubstantiated. To take a flight of fancy, what if it were substantiated? That would again come down to a question of politics. No US president has ever been forced out of office by impeachment (Richard Nixon resigned before the vote; Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton were acquitted by the Senate). Any such procedure would have to be prepared and approved by a majority of the House of Representatives, and then passed to the Senate for a two-thirds majority vote. As the Republicans hold the reins in both chambers, it would take an almighty severing of ties between Trump and his own party to even get close to such a place.

What would happen if Trump was impeached?
In the event that Trump was impeached, convicted by Senate and removed from office, Vice President-elect Mike Pence would take the oath of office and become president in his place.

If both Trump and Pence were impeached at the same time - which is a highly unlikely scenario - the Speaker of the House, Mr Ryan, would become president.


Samo, da ne bo Killary in, da gre podpornik Isis-a Obama v pokoj to je najbolj važno.