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CaqKa ::
tr0n kaj pomeni v exp klientu spodaj pri podatkih
also x.xxx distributed copies.
oz kaj pomeni če je ta številka pod 1 ali pa če je nad ena.. pa kako se računa.. ker vidim da tudi ko je pod 1 lahko dobiš normalno cel fajl dol...
also x.xxx distributed copies.
oz kaj pomeni če je ta številka pod 1 ali pa če je nad ena.. pa kako se računa.. ker vidim da tudi ko je pod 1 lahko dobiš normalno cel fajl dol...
pivmik ::
Točno to kar piše
3.574 kopij je v omrežju katerih deli so porazdeljeni med uporabnike.
Če bi dal vse podatke od vse trenutnih uporabnikov skupaj bi dobil 3,574 kopije (tri cela pet sedem štiri).
A ne znamo anglescine?
3.574 kopij je v omrežju katerih deli so porazdeljeni med uporabnike.
Če bi dal vse podatke od vse trenutnih uporabnikov skupaj bi dobil 3,574 kopije (tri cela pet sedem štiri).
A ne znamo anglescine?
LP, Gregor GRE^
Tr0n ::
Yup.
conected to X peers with an average of Y% - trenutno si povezan na X leecherjev, ki imajo v povprecju Y% celotne datoteke
conected to X seeds; also seeing Y distributed copies - trenutno si povezan na X seederjev; v omrezju se nahaja Y kopij datoteke, ki jih ti seederji in leecherji vidijo.
Nekaj v tem stilu :).
conected to X peers with an average of Y% - trenutno si povezan na X leecherjev, ki imajo v povprecju Y% celotne datoteke
conected to X seeds; also seeing Y distributed copies - trenutno si povezan na X seederjev; v omrezju se nahaja Y kopij datoteke, ki jih ti seederji in leecherji vidijo.
Nekaj v tem stilu :).
ginekolog ::
Hm zgleda da nektari veliki trackerji spet dol, ker mi pri mnogih torrentih to javlja.
A je še kakšna stran, podobno dobro urejena in bogata kot supernova ?
A je še kakšna stran, podobno dobro urejena in bogata kot supernova ?
Divers do it deeper.
blabla ::
moj_nick: Ko bi le lahko nekam vtipkal "super-seed bittorrent" in bi ti vrnilo pravi odgovor. A ne?
ABOUT SUPER-SEED MODE
=====================
The super-seed feature in S-5.5 and on is a new seeding algorithm designed to help
a torrent initiator with limited bandwidth "pump up" a large torrent, reducing the
amount of data it needs to upload in order to spawn new seeds in the torrent.
When a seeding client enters "super-seed mode", it will not act as a standard seed,
but masquerades as a normal client with no data. As clients connect, it will then
inform them that it received a piece -- a piece that was never sent, or if all
pieces were already sent, is very rare. This will induce the client to attempt to
download only that piece.
When the client has finished downloading the piece, the seed will not inform it of
any other pieces until it has seen the piece it had sent previously present on at
least one other client. Until then, the client will not have access to any of the
other pieces of the seed, and therefore will not waste the seed's bandwidth.
This method has resulted in much higher seeding efficiencies, by both inducing
peers into taking only the rarest data, reducing the amount of redundant data sent,
and limiting the amount of data sent to peers which do not contribute to the swarm.
Prior to this, a seed might have to upload 150% to 200% of the total size of a
torrent before other clients became seeds. However, a large torrent seeded with a
single client running in super-seed mode was able to do so after only uploading
105% of the data. This is 150-200% more efficient than when using a standard seed.
Super-seed mode is *NOT* recommended for general use. While it does assist in the
wider distribution of rare data, because it limits the selection of pieces a
client can downlad, it also limits the ability of those clients to download data
for pieces they have already partially retrieved. Therefore, super-seed mode is
only recommended for initial seeding servers.
ABOUT SUPER-SEED MODE
=====================
The super-seed feature in S-5.5 and on is a new seeding algorithm designed to help
a torrent initiator with limited bandwidth "pump up" a large torrent, reducing the
amount of data it needs to upload in order to spawn new seeds in the torrent.
When a seeding client enters "super-seed mode", it will not act as a standard seed,
but masquerades as a normal client with no data. As clients connect, it will then
inform them that it received a piece -- a piece that was never sent, or if all
pieces were already sent, is very rare. This will induce the client to attempt to
download only that piece.
When the client has finished downloading the piece, the seed will not inform it of
any other pieces until it has seen the piece it had sent previously present on at
least one other client. Until then, the client will not have access to any of the
other pieces of the seed, and therefore will not waste the seed's bandwidth.
This method has resulted in much higher seeding efficiencies, by both inducing
peers into taking only the rarest data, reducing the amount of redundant data sent,
and limiting the amount of data sent to peers which do not contribute to the swarm.
Prior to this, a seed might have to upload 150% to 200% of the total size of a
torrent before other clients became seeds. However, a large torrent seeded with a
single client running in super-seed mode was able to do so after only uploading
105% of the data. This is 150-200% more efficient than when using a standard seed.
Super-seed mode is *NOT* recommended for general use. While it does assist in the
wider distribution of rare data, because it limits the selection of pieces a
client can downlad, it also limits the ability of those clients to download data
for pieces they have already partially retrieved. Therefore, super-seed mode is
only recommended for initial seeding servers.
CaqKa ::
tron picnik: če bi bilo tak bi tista številka vedno morala biti večje od števila sederjev.. saj se od vsagea sederja pričakuje da prispeva eno celotno 100% kopijo v omrežje.
vendar stvari ni vedno tako... se je že zgodilo da recimo piše 2 sederja pa 0,5 copies... to meni ni jasno.
/edit:
glej ravnokar pri enem fajlu gledam... 13 seederjev 0 peers pa 0.275 distributed copies...
pa zakaj pri total speedu ne piše zraven še mojega speeda?
vendar stvari ni vedno tako... se je že zgodilo da recimo piše 2 sederja pa 0,5 copies... to meni ni jasno.
/edit:
glej ravnokar pri enem fajlu gledam... 13 seederjev 0 peers pa 0.275 distributed copies...
pa zakaj pri total speedu ne piše zraven še mojega speeda?
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]Fusion[ ::
Mene bi pa zanimalo ce makdo kak link od legalne BT strani z torrenti? Recimo da majo funstuff, patche, update za igre, demote itd.
"I am not an animal! I am a human being! I... am... a man!" - John Merrick
Tr0n ::
But of course :).
http://www.gametab.com/
http://aixgaming.com/
http://www.gamedr.com/
Pa se kaj bi se mogoce naslo.
IceMan: ne ti meni o pr0nu ;)
EDIT: Aja, pa ena izmed najvecjih gaming strani 3D Gamers ima sedaj zraven stalnih mirrorjev vedno tudi BitTorrent mirror, ki deluje najboljse ravno takrat, ko so vsi ostali zasedeni :).
http://www.gametab.com/
http://aixgaming.com/
http://www.gamedr.com/
Pa se kaj bi se mogoce naslo.
IceMan: ne ti meni o pr0nu ;)
EDIT: Aja, pa ena izmed najvecjih gaming strani 3D Gamers ima sedaj zraven stalnih mirrorjev vedno tudi BitTorrent mirror, ki deluje najboljse ravno takrat, ko so vsi ostali zasedeni :).
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]Fusion[ ::
Kul, thanx za linke.
Ce bo ta BT se naprej tak dobro deloval bom Mulo pocasi terminiral
LP
Ce bo ta BT se naprej tak dobro deloval bom Mulo pocasi terminiral
LP
"I am not an animal! I am a human being! I... am... a man!" - John Merrick
Tr0n ::
To ti ravno ne bi priporocal :). BitTorrent je kewl, ampak po objavi datoteke je ta aktivna maksimalno teden/dva, medtem ko lahko na muli najdes po leto/dve stare zadeve :). Vsak program ima pac svoje dobre in slabe lastnosti.
]Fusion[ ::
Je res. Ocitno bo Mula se nekaj casa aktualna. Oziroma dokler ne izumijo kaj boljsega (mogoce spojitev BT in Mule?)
"I am not an animal! I am a human being! I... am... a man!" - John Merrick
tx-z ::
a se da v tem bit torrentu nardit, da k ugasnem računalnik pa ga pol enkrat na nov pržgem, začne downloadat od tam naprej k je končal?? in če se da to okno za downloadanje skrit kam?'
tx-z
]Fusion[ ::
probaj v zagon dat torrent datoteko. Ce mas kaki custom client se verjetno da minizirat v sys. tray.
"I am not an animal! I am a human being! I... am... a man!" - John Merrick
tx-z ::
ja, če ugasneš računalnik, morš it na nov na stran pa dat od začetka, pol pa opaz da se je že downloadal in začne od tam naprej, kako daš shadow mode?
tx-z
tx-z ::
jst sm mel to kr eno verzijo, sam kazal je kok hitr dela, kok hitr pošila, kok je naredu, pa kok časa bo še delu pa gumb cancel....kako pa tega torrent++ nazaj pokažem?? al je še kakšen bolši?
tx-z
CaqKa ::
shadow mod je mod običajnega bt klienta..
torej tisto sivo okno... zraven cancel gumba ima še tudi pause gumb.. poišči ga po webu.. jaz sem si ga iz rožic dol potegnil.
torej tisto sivo okno... zraven cancel gumba ima še tudi pause gumb.. poišči ga po webu.. jaz sem si ga iz rožic dol potegnil.
CaqKa ::
glede na to da shadow mod izhaja iz orginal exp sourca bi jaz priporočal shadow mode v psycho načinu za tiste z dosti rama, ter v normalnem načinu za tiste z malo rama.
pivmik ::
Torrentz je tudi v redu stran.
Zaenkrat še sveža tako, da nima toliko robe kot suprnova ampak vsaj dela vedno in ima v glavnem kvalitetno robo.
Zaenkrat še sveža tako, da nima toliko robe kot suprnova ampak vsaj dela vedno in ima v glavnem kvalitetno robo.
LP, Gregor GRE^
e-spy ::
Bt seka vse rekorde :) vcasih gre tud nad 1000 KB/s.
Pa pejdte po slincek...
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| file: MandrakeLinux-9.2rc2 |
| size: 2,044,719,544 (2 GB) |
| dest: /home/metod/BitTorrent-3.2.1b/MandrakeLinux-9.2rc2 |
| progress: ############____________________________________________________________
| status: finishing in 1:23:59 (12.7%) |
| dl speed: 924.2 KB/s |
| ul speed: 20.0 KB/s |
| error(s):
------------------
by moderator: skrajšal sem ti ----- ker razširijo forum
Pa pejdte po slincek...
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| file: MandrakeLinux-9.2rc2 |
| size: 2,044,719,544 (2 GB) |
| dest: /home/metod/BitTorrent-3.2.1b/MandrakeLinux-9.2rc2 |
| progress: ############____________________________________________________________
| status: finishing in 1:23:59 (12.7%) |
| dl speed: 924.2 KB/s |
| ul speed: 20.0 KB/s |
| error(s):
------------------
by moderator: skrajšal sem ti ----- ker razširijo forum
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Fury ::
men se experimental stalno seseda.. oz.. kako bi rekel.. enostavno neha vse delat pa pise da se zmer tokpatok DLja ampak nic ne DLja, restart resi probleme.. samo je annoying k se SKOS seseda.. BT++ je en buggy jajc.. PTC in official mi tut fizneta isto .. vcasih ja vcasih ne.. kaksne ideje?
Highlag ::
Sem probal BT3.2.1 ter BT++ 0.5.4 in oba imata iste simptome. Nekaj časa zadeva dela, potem se pa zadeva ustavi, čeprav klient kaže, da še deluje. Je v resnici v mirovanju. Opazil sem tudi, da BTdownloadgui.exe takrat zasede 99% CPu časa. Tak da tudi Folding neha delat. Program ne struži po disku, in ne ustvarja prometa po mreži. Isto velja za oba programa. (no saj končno imata isto jedro) Pomaga edino prekinitev in ponovn zagon programa.
Začetno navdušenje se počasi sprevrača v bridko razočaranje. Ma kaj češ ene stvari so predobre, da bi bilo res.
Začetno navdušenje se počasi sprevrača v bridko razočaranje. Ma kaj češ ene stvari so predobre, da bi bilo res.
Freelancer ::
Meni je experimental vedno OK delal. Zdaj sem presaltal na shad0w's experimental, ker ma ene par dodatnih koristnih funkcij.
Edino kar me mot pri BTju je to, da ti pozre tolk RAMa... drugac je pa to res carski protokol
Edino kar me mot pri BTju je to, da ti pozre tolk RAMa... drugac je pa to res carski protokol
pivmik ::
Naboljši klient trenutno je Azureus.
Za vsak file posebej v torrentu lahko določiš priority, imaš pregled nad downloadanimi koščki kot v eMule, koščki ki so trenutno na volj v omrežju, download speed od posameznega uporabnika...
Za vsak file posebej v torrentu lahko določiš priority, imaš pregled nad downloadanimi koščki kot v eMule, koščki ki so trenutno na volj v omrežju, download speed od posameznega uporabnika...
LP, Gregor GRE^
Tr0n ::
Jaz se vedno experimental uporabljam.
Problem pri Azureusu je, da je napisan v Javi in je zato zadevica bolj sluggish :).
Problem pri Azureusu je, da je napisan v Javi in je zato zadevica bolj sluggish :).
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Fury ::
azenevemkaj mi zlo pocas DLja, ULja pa skos max
navaden in experimental mi frizneta cez nekaj casa.. ampak ne crashneta.. samo nehata DLjat pa tut ce sem prej skos 14k/s DLju kar je tik pod maxom moje linije in bi mogl bit dost.
PTC se najdalj zdrzi
BT++ pa je totaln drek ker steka ko prasica pa se sesuje se mi na 2 minute :)
navaden in experimental mi frizneta cez nekaj casa.. ampak ne crashneta.. samo nehata DLjat pa tut ce sem prej skos 14k/s DLju kar je tik pod maxom moje linije in bi mogl bit dost.
PTC se najdalj zdrzi
BT++ pa je totaln drek ker steka ko prasica pa se sesuje se mi na 2 minute :)
Fury ::
1. trackerji so online
2. firewall sem tut isklucu (softwareski)
3. se celo antiviru sem skenslu
4. sem probal samo en fajl pac 16k dat ULja
5. sem probal omejit DL da mi slucajno ne ubije linije
6. ce restartam po tem ko se ustav dela naprej spet 50k/s vsaj in to takoj
7. cez neki casa spet neha delat neglede na to kar nardim..
kazza, emule itd.. vse mi dela normalno.
internet ne dozivlja izpadov...
ideje tr0n in ostali?
2. firewall sem tut isklucu (softwareski)
3. se celo antiviru sem skenslu
4. sem probal samo en fajl pac 16k dat ULja
5. sem probal omejit DL da mi slucajno ne ubije linije
6. ce restartam po tem ko se ustav dela naprej spet 50k/s vsaj in to takoj
7. cez neki casa spet neha delat neglede na to kar nardim..
kazza, emule itd.. vse mi dela normalno.
internet ne dozivlja izpadov...
ideje tr0n in ostali?
Fury ::
ma tok trd pa nism
DLjam file s cca 20 seedi in okol 100 peersi...
lihar sem ugotovu da mi takrat cudezno zginejo vsi peersi in seedi... pomaga samo restart.. kot da bi me diskonektal od vseh seedov in peerov... krneki
DLjam file s cca 20 seedi in okol 100 peersi...
lihar sem ugotovu da mi takrat cudezno zginejo vsi peersi in seedi... pomaga samo restart.. kot da bi me diskonektal od vseh seedov in peerov... krneki
Tr0n ::
Hmm, kolko vem si prvi, ki se mu to dogaja. GL! :)
Se nekaj linkov BitTorrent klientov.
RECOMMENDED CLIENTS
TheShad0w Experimental S-5.7.6 http://home.elp.rr.com/tur/
burst! v1.0 RC5d-uau http://sourceforge.net/projects/burst/
Azureus 2.0.2.7 http://azureus.sourceforge.net/ * java client*
USE THE FOLLOWING CLIENTS AT YOUR OWN RISK
Official client v3.2.1 http://www.bitconjurer.org/BitTorrent/d...
Experimental client v3.2.1b-2 http://ei.kefro.st/projects/btclient/
BT++ v0.5.4 http://btplusplus.sourceforge.net/
Shareaza 1.9 http://www.shareaza.com/
ABC [Yet Another Bittorrent Client] 2.0.4 http://sourceforge.net/projects/pingpon...
BTManager 1.0.9 http://sourceforge.net/projects/btmanag...
Torrent Trader v1.1 http://torrenttrader.icezero.org/client... .site may be down.
Nova Torrent v0.2.0 http://blackflaw.dyndns.org/
SimpleBT 0.1.9 https://sourceforge.net/projects/simple...
BitAnarch 1.0.5a http://sourceforge.net/projects/bitanar...
Personal Torrent Collector 0.8.1 http://ptc.sourceforge.net/
m1lk 1.0a http://sourceforge.net/projects/m1lk/
Effusion 0.3.3 http://www.azrael-uk.f2s.com/az/effusio... *java client*
snark 0.5 http://www.klomp.org/snark/ *java client*
Jtorrent 0.1 http://sourceforge.net/projects/jtorrent *java client* *alpha build*
ByteTorrent http://sourceforge.net/projects/bytetor... *pre-alpha build*
Bittorrentmod http://sourceforge.net/projects/bittorr... *pre-alpha build*
JerkTorrent http://www.amishrakefight.org/gfy/
XanTorrent http://cotapers.org/BT/BitTorrent.html *delphi client beta* -unreleased-
BitTorrent Macintosh http://sarwat.net/bittorrent/
EXTRAS
TorrentSpy - BitTorrent MetaInfo Handler http://sourceforge.net/projects/torrent...
Burst Plus! 0.3b http://sourceforge.net/projects/burst-p...
Se nekaj linkov BitTorrent klientov.
RECOMMENDED CLIENTS
TheShad0w Experimental S-5.7.6 http://home.elp.rr.com/tur/
burst! v1.0 RC5d-uau http://sourceforge.net/projects/burst/
Azureus 2.0.2.7 http://azureus.sourceforge.net/ * java client*
USE THE FOLLOWING CLIENTS AT YOUR OWN RISK
Official client v3.2.1 http://www.bitconjurer.org/BitTorrent/d...
Experimental client v3.2.1b-2 http://ei.kefro.st/projects/btclient/
BT++ v0.5.4 http://btplusplus.sourceforge.net/
Shareaza 1.9 http://www.shareaza.com/
ABC [Yet Another Bittorrent Client] 2.0.4 http://sourceforge.net/projects/pingpon...
BTManager 1.0.9 http://sourceforge.net/projects/btmanag...
Torrent Trader v1.1 http://torrenttrader.icezero.org/client... .site may be down.
Nova Torrent v0.2.0 http://blackflaw.dyndns.org/
SimpleBT 0.1.9 https://sourceforge.net/projects/simple...
BitAnarch 1.0.5a http://sourceforge.net/projects/bitanar...
Personal Torrent Collector 0.8.1 http://ptc.sourceforge.net/
m1lk 1.0a http://sourceforge.net/projects/m1lk/
Effusion 0.3.3 http://www.azrael-uk.f2s.com/az/effusio... *java client*
snark 0.5 http://www.klomp.org/snark/ *java client*
Jtorrent 0.1 http://sourceforge.net/projects/jtorrent *java client* *alpha build*
ByteTorrent http://sourceforge.net/projects/bytetor... *pre-alpha build*
Bittorrentmod http://sourceforge.net/projects/bittorr... *pre-alpha build*
JerkTorrent http://www.amishrakefight.org/gfy/
XanTorrent http://cotapers.org/BT/BitTorrent.html *delphi client beta* -unreleased-
BitTorrent Macintosh http://sarwat.net/bittorrent/
EXTRAS
TorrentSpy - BitTorrent MetaInfo Handler http://sourceforge.net/projects/torrent...
Burst Plus! 0.3b http://sourceforge.net/projects/burst-p...
Highlag ::
Fury dej povej če ti klient tud porabi 100% procesorskega časa ko se zadeva ustavi.
Jaz sem razmišljal žeo tem, da bi naredil en batch file, ki bi vsake 1/2 ure ponovno zagnal klienta.
Samo dokumentacija o command-line parametrih je bolj skopa
Jaz sem razmišljal žeo tem, da bi naredil en batch file, ki bi vsake 1/2 ure ponovno zagnal klienta.
Samo dokumentacija o command-line parametrih je bolj skopa
BaRtMaN ::
Nova verzija BitTorrenta je TU.
New in 3.3:
- Files now only get allocated as they're downloaded and don't fragment the hard drive
- Large torrents no longer hose the CPU
- Better network utilization and more consistent download rates
- Poorly seeded torrents get out faster
- Several important bug fixes
EDIT: totlno slabši od experimental klienta je, poglejte okno:
Nobene kontrole nad uploadom, nobene peer liste, nič! Če želite omejiti upload, si dobite še NetLimiter. Pa še v systray se ne minimizira, ampak ostane kvadratek v taskbaru!
Kje lahko dobim 3.2.1b?
New in 3.3:
- Files now only get allocated as they're downloaded and don't fragment the hard drive
- Large torrents no longer hose the CPU
- Better network utilization and more consistent download rates
- Poorly seeded torrents get out faster
- Several important bug fixes
EDIT: totlno slabši od experimental klienta je, poglejte okno:
Nobene kontrole nad uploadom, nobene peer liste, nič! Če želite omejiti upload, si dobite še NetLimiter. Pa še v systray se ne minimizira, ampak ostane kvadratek v taskbaru!
Kje lahko dobim 3.2.1b?
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Tr0n ::
O superca. Koncno optimiziran BitTorrent official client. Ja, saj uradni klient nikoli ni imel omejevanja uploada, zato je zadeva vedno tako letela. Ko so zaceli prihajati prvi upload cap klienti pa se je vse skupaj malce upocasnilo.
Ze danes bo verjetno kar nekaj neuradnih klientov imelo v3.3 kodo, tak da nic se bat.
BaRtMaN: http://ei.kefro.st/projects/btclient/
Ze danes bo verjetno kar nekaj neuradnih klientov imelo v3.3 kodo, tak da nic se bat.
BaRtMaN: http://ei.kefro.st/projects/btclient/
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Freelancer ::
Js kr ostajam pr shad0w's experimental, ta je imel itak ze prej da sprot allocata pa se zdej mi dela ze skoz BP tko da nebom popravlu ker ni pokvarjeno ;)
tx-z ::
a lahko kdo napiše kakšne strani kot suprnova, ker jst nč ne najdm, tiste omenjene zgoraj, pa ne delajo vse al pa zanč..
tx-z
undefined ::
> Dunno, ne uporabljam suprnove. Lame page.
Tr0n, aja?
>> Ok, bi lahko prosim nehali s to Suprnovo. Kot da je edina BT stran.
Kaj to, kao varka?
Tr0n, aja?
>> Ok, bi lahko prosim nehali s to Suprnovo. Kot da je edina BT stran.
Kaj to, kao varka?
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