Olje konoplje - kje kupiti v Sloveniji?

jest10 je 9. jul 2013 ob 19:33 izjavil:

ivanuscha je 9. jul 2013 ob 17:45 izjavil:

Zakaj pa ni kliničnih študij, če je polno enega folka, ki pravijo da so se pozdravili z konopljinim oljem?

Zakaj pa ni kliničnih študij zaradi množice, ki jih je "pozdravila" vera, polagalci rok, živa voda, energetske točke, posušen tigrov penis, zdrobljeni slonji okli, himalajska sol,...

jest10 je 9. jul 2013 ob 19:33 izjavil:

ivanuscha je 9. jul 2013 ob 17:45 izjavil:

Zakaj pa ni kliničnih študij, če je polno enega folka, ki pravijo da so se pozdravili z konopljinim oljem?

Zakaj pa ni kliničnih študij zaradi množice, ki jih je "pozdravila" vera, polagalci rok, živa voda, energetske točke, posušen tigrov penis, zdrobljeni slonji okli, himalajska sol,...

Massacra je 9. jul 2013 ob 23:26 izjavil:

Seveda so bile testirane. Tukaj se gre za "patentno vojno" v smislu, kdo bo prej neko molekulo kanabinoida toliko spremenil, da bo dobil patent zanjo! In ko bo dobil patent, bo s tem plačal klinične študije in nato začel z masovno proizvodnjo. V nekaj letih bo zaslužil 3-10x toliko, kot je plačal za študije in ga je stal patent.

You are a Professor of Chemistry at the Athabasca University in Idaho. As an outgrowth of a discussion at the graduate seminar last Monday afternoon you would like to verify that MDA is indeed the primary metabolite of MDMA, in man. So you go into the lab on Tuesday morning, diddle with simple chemicals for a few hours and come up with a few hundred milligrams of MDMA. You eat 120 milligrams of it at 3:00 p.m., collect your urine at 6:00 p.m., and, making a basified extract of it at 6:10 p.m., get a sample for the GCMS at 6:30 and zap it into the machine. By about 7:00 p.m., you see a big peak for MDMA and another, somewhat smaller, peak that is clearly MDA, and you have the answer to your question. Yup. MDA is certainly a major metabolite of MDMA. All this is ordinary, standard laboratory procedure.

But all of this is secret within your isolated laboratory. What would happen if you wanted to publish this observation and share this finding with the world? Were you to send a paper to Nature with this simple finding, they would reject it since any acknowledgment on their part would make them conspirators to the knowing commission of a felony. You have synthesized an illegal drug without permission. You possess an illegal drug with the intent to sell. You have given an illegal drug to a person (yourself) with the intent to achieve an illegal effect. You have analyzed an illegal drug without permission. You and your Department allies, and your complacent University principals, are all clearly co-conspirators in the commission of a felonious crime. You will be dumped from the University and will be unemployable. Believe me, the FDA is only one obstacle to this noble intent. There are many others. Let me try to indicate some of them.

To perform human studies, a research IND must be obtained from the FDA. This requires that the Human Health Committee of your University review your research proposal and approve it. The proposal must be written out completely, with all the minor details spelled out. What is the legal vulnerability of the University if there is some suit bought by one of the research subjects? What are the Good Laboratory Practices (GLP) that will guarantee quality workmanship? What are the sources of the chemical needed and the assurances that they will be adequate? How will the identity and the purity of the product be assured? What is the source of your reference sample that will confirm identity and purity?

And this is, after all, a Schedule I drug. This is for the DEA. What are the security provisions that will guarantee that it cannot fall into the hands of an unauthorized person. Safety vaults. Registration of all dilution samples. Locks on all refrigerators. Who has the Schedule I license that assumes responsibility for everything being proper? How do you get the sample from the pharmacy vault to the experimental clinic safely?

And what are the criteria for the selection of the human subjects involved? Medical insurance provisions? And more specifically, just what are the questions to be asked? Why do you want to know the ratio of MDA to MDMA? Will this help to explain the recognized toxicity of MDMA in man?

Oh, by the way, where is the money coming from, to pay for this research? Please give details as to the sources and amounts of funds that are dedicated to this study, and the reasons for their interests.

You are looking at a minimum of two years of paper-work.

Massacra je 11. avg 2013 ob 07:41 izjavil:

Saj jih ni moglo biti! Prepovedanih substanc in rastlin ni možno uporabljati v clinical trials!

jest10 je 11. avg 2013 ob 08:18 izjavil:

Massacra je 11. avg 2013 ob 07:41 izjavil:

Saj jih ni moglo biti! Prepovedanih substanc in rastlin ni možno uporabljati v clinical trials!

Zakaj lažeš
Aja ups, nisem vedel, da so sestavine, ki jih farmacija dnevno uporablja na prodaj v supermarketu in dostopne vsakemu Lojzetu.

Vse, prav vse se lahko uporablja. Razlika med jabolkom in xyz "prepovedano" substanco je le v kupčku papirjev, ki jih je treba izpolnit, ter pravil kar se tiče ravnanja, ki se jih moraš držati.

Massacra je 11. avg 2013 ob 07:41 izjavil:

Saj jih ni moglo biti! Prepovedanih substanc in rastlin ni možno uporabljati v clinical trials!

Colorado je lani marihuano legaliziral. Institut for natural product research na University of Missisipi, pa je dobil povsem legaliziran nasad marihuane!

Clinical trials torej šele sledijo!