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Preciscevanje CO2 .... domaca izdelava?
Alec999 ::
Mene pa zlo zanima kako je na vesoljskih postajah in podmornicah poskrbleno za kisik in kaj naredijo z C02.
Kako naredit napravo za predelavo C02 v O2? Ali pa ce se da to napravco kupt ... pa kok to stane?
Hvala vsem za kakrsno koli informacijo.
lp,
Alec999
Kako naredit napravo za predelavo C02 v O2? Ali pa ce se da to napravco kupt ... pa kok to stane?
Hvala vsem za kakrsno koli informacijo.
lp,
Alec999
OmegaBlue ::
evo se mi ne da prevajat pa ti bom dal kr cpy/paste:
The air we breathe is made up of significant quantities of four gases:
Nitrogen (78%)
Oxygen (21%)
Argon (0.94%)
Carbon dioxide (0.04%)
When we breathe in air, our bodies consume its oxygen and convert it to carbon dioxide. Exhaled air contains about 4.5-percent carbon dioxide. Our bodies do not do anything with nitrogen or argon.
A submarine (or a space ship, for that matter) is a sealed container that contains people and a limited supply of air. There are three things that must happen in order to keep air in a submarine breathable:
Oxygen has to be replenished as it is consumed. If the percentage of oxygen in the air falls too low, a person suffocates.
Carbon dioxide must be removed from the air. As the concentration of carbon dioxide rises, it becomes a toxin.
The moisture that we exhale in our breath must be removed.
Oxygen is supplied either from pressurized tanks, an oxygen generator (which can form oxygen from the electrolysis of water or by some other means) or some sort of "oxygen canister" (You may remember these canisters because of their problems on the MIR space station -- they release oxygen by a very hot chemical reaction). Oxygen is either released continuously by a computerized system that senses the percentage of oxygen in the air, or it is released in batches periodically through the day.
Carbon dioxide can be removed from the air chemically using soda lime (sodium hydroxide and calcium hydroxide). The carbon dioxide is trapped in the soda lime by a checmical reaction and removed from the air. Other similar reactions can accomplish the same goal.
The moisture can be removed by a dehumidifier or chemically. This prevents it from condensing on the walls and equipment inside the ship.
Kupu boš pa bol teško tole stvar
The air we breathe is made up of significant quantities of four gases:
Nitrogen (78%)
Oxygen (21%)
Argon (0.94%)
Carbon dioxide (0.04%)
When we breathe in air, our bodies consume its oxygen and convert it to carbon dioxide. Exhaled air contains about 4.5-percent carbon dioxide. Our bodies do not do anything with nitrogen or argon.
A submarine (or a space ship, for that matter) is a sealed container that contains people and a limited supply of air. There are three things that must happen in order to keep air in a submarine breathable:
Oxygen has to be replenished as it is consumed. If the percentage of oxygen in the air falls too low, a person suffocates.
Carbon dioxide must be removed from the air. As the concentration of carbon dioxide rises, it becomes a toxin.
The moisture that we exhale in our breath must be removed.
Oxygen is supplied either from pressurized tanks, an oxygen generator (which can form oxygen from the electrolysis of water or by some other means) or some sort of "oxygen canister" (You may remember these canisters because of their problems on the MIR space station -- they release oxygen by a very hot chemical reaction). Oxygen is either released continuously by a computerized system that senses the percentage of oxygen in the air, or it is released in batches periodically through the day.
Carbon dioxide can be removed from the air chemically using soda lime (sodium hydroxide and calcium hydroxide). The carbon dioxide is trapped in the soda lime by a checmical reaction and removed from the air. Other similar reactions can accomplish the same goal.
The moisture can be removed by a dehumidifier or chemically. This prevents it from condensing on the walls and equipment inside the ship.
Kupu boš pa bol teško tole stvar
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Yohan del Sud ::
Mislim fak ne. V Merkurju jo nimajo!
Ej ideja. Posvetila mi je žarnica. Gremo en biznis narest. Kolko bi bil folk pripravljen dat za ta špas?
Ej ideja. Posvetila mi je žarnica. Gremo en biznis narest. Kolko bi bil folk pripravljen dat za ta špas?
cyer^3d ::
Za najcenejso napravo za CO2 -> O2 je najbolje stopiti do lokalne cvetlicarne. Rastline vam bodo z veseljem delale 02, le zalivati jih je treba z vodo
some facts
some facts
leonius ::
obstaja kemikalija, nevem na pamet katera, lahko pa jo poišèem, ki veže CO2 in sprošèa kisik.
Thomas ::
Tole z rožami - ni tako zanesljiva reč. Prav lahko ponucajo več kisika, kot ga naredijo. Lahko se ogljikov dioksid začne sproščati iz prsti. Prav to se jim je zgodilo v Sphera 2.
Pa zadušil se je že kakšen vrtnar v topli gredi ali zimskem vrtu.
Pa zadušil se je že kakšen vrtnar v topli gredi ali zimskem vrtu.
cyer^3d ::
thomas, zanesljivost gor/dol glavno da pridelujejo O2. free natural device.
Glede Sphere2 pa se dobro, da se niso poklali med sabo, zmanjsan dotok kisika je vplival na pocutje in psiho, tako da se je folx zacel medsebojno kregati in sovraziti...upam da bodo kolonije na Marsu imele boljse BioSphere
Glede Sphere2 pa se dobro, da se niso poklali med sabo, zmanjsan dotok kisika je vplival na pocutje in psiho, tako da se je folx zacel medsebojno kregati in sovraziti...upam da bodo kolonije na Marsu imele boljse BioSphere
TESKAn ::
Uporabite lahko tudi apno...recimo prepleskate sobo z apnom. Potem se nanj veže CO2, sprošča pa kisik. Pa maš pocen filter.
Uf! Uf! Je rekel Vinetou in se skril za skalo,
ki jo je prav v ta namen nosil s seboj.
ki jo je prav v ta namen nosil s seboj.
Tomi ::
Čisto preprosto je to narejeno. Vzameš oksid druge skupine, če se le da z najmanjšo Mr, in potem pride do reakcije M(II)O + CO2 --> MCO3, in to je najlažja pot do čistega zraka.
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Brane2 ::
Iz solitra...
Ta je eden od treh osnovnih sestavin smodnika, oziroma je bil včasih.
Žveplo, oglje in soliter. Soliter je bil v mixu zato, da je zagotovil kisik...
ne vem, kaj je v današnjih smodnikih, vsaj tisti moderni za orožje so verjetno na bazi nitroceluloze in vprašanje kaj dajejo zraven za zagotovitev oksidanta a včasih je bil to soliter...
Ta je eden od treh osnovnih sestavin smodnika, oziroma je bil včasih.
Žveplo, oglje in soliter. Soliter je bil v mixu zato, da je zagotovil kisik...
ne vem, kaj je v današnjih smodnikih, vsaj tisti moderni za orožje so verjetno na bazi nitroceluloze in vprašanje kaj dajejo zraven za zagotovitev oksidanta a včasih je bil to soliter...
Kaboom ::
ok, jaz mam doma 15kg solitra kak naj iz njega dobim kisik ?
Če se zatakne - pritisni močneje. Če se zlomi - bil je skrajni čas za nakup novega.
Kaboom ::
zakaj pa misliš mam taki nick ?
no ja, čeprav rajši delam WUUUSH kot kaboom... sprobal bi pa tudi naret kisik :) baje da je zelo dober za možgane v svoji čisti verziji... O2 restavracije pa to, lahko potegnemo skup res pa zaslužimo s prodajo kisika
no ja, čeprav rajši delam WUUUSH kot kaboom... sprobal bi pa tudi naret kisik :) baje da je zelo dober za možgane v svoji čisti verziji... O2 restavracije pa to, lahko potegnemo skup res pa zaslužimo s prodajo kisika
Če se zatakne - pritisni močneje. Če se zlomi - bil je skrajni čas za nakup novega.
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