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Pogovarjajte se z umetno inteligenco iz 60. let

Pogovarjajte se z umetno inteligenco iz 60. let

Slo-Tech - Eden izmed najpomembnejših robotov za pogovore se imenuje ELIZA, ki je bila razvita v sredini 60. let minulega stoletja. V primerjavi z današnjimi modeli, kot sta GPT ali Gemini, je zagotovo zastarela, a še vedno presenetljivo človeška.

Napisal jo je Joseph Weizenbaum z MIT-a. Najbolj znana skripta zanjo se imenuje DOCTOR in simulira pogovore, ki bi jih vodil psihoterapevt. ELIZA je napisana v programskem jeziku MAD-SLIP (Michigan Algorithm Decoder Symmetric List Processor), ki ga je izumil Weizenbaum in je kasneje postal lisp. Prav verzija ELIZE v lispu je z zgodnjim internetom zaslovela, prvotna verzija pa je skoraj utonila v pozabo.

Originalnih 420 vrstic ELIZE so ponovno odkrili šele leta 2021 v Weizenbaumovimi zapiski. Jeffrey Shrager s Stanforda se je lotil projekta obnove ELIZE, prvič je kodo pognal decembra. Ta ima tudi kakšnega hrošča, tako se na primer zruši ob vnosu številk, a za leto 1965 predstavlja velik dosežek. Sedaj jo lahko preizkusimo na internetu. V vseh pogledih je inferiorna modernim modelov, bolje ji gre le - poslušanje.

20 komentarjev

Riff ::

o smo začel z umetno iteligenco že v 60 letih , dandanes se pa še izboljšuje to področje :)

Zimonem ::

Lisp je "pogruntal" mccharty ve petdesetih izšel je pa leta 60. V bistvu je pa samo churchov lambda račun prenesen na računala v osnovi.

Zakaj ste na išlo techu tako zabiti?

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Meizu ::

Tale reč iz 1960 je en čisto navaden trol hehe.

bm1973 ::

Zimonem je izjavil:

Lisp je "pogruntal" mccharty ve petdesetih izšel je pa leta 60. V bistvu je pa samo churchov lambda račun prenesen na računala v osnovi.

Zakaj ste na išlo techu tako zabiti?

Zato, ker večina misli, da pred Javascriptom ni bilo ničesar >:D.

Utk ::

Meizu je izjavil:

Tale reč iz 1960 je en čisto navaden trol hehe.

Haha, res, carsko. In težko ga zjebat...zmeraj ima odgovor (oz. vprašanje nazaj zate).

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d4vid ::

Je pa nekje na nivoju tošeta. Ponavljajoče enovrstične odgovore daje :))
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Miki N ::

d4vid je izjavil:

Je pa nekje na nivoju tošeta. Ponavljajoče enovrstične odgovore daje :))


- Eliza, to se mi ne zdi dober odgovor.
- Super, da se ti ne zdi dober.

Karamelo ::

a ni bila eliza tista, ki je na odgovore odgovarjala z vprašanji, zdi se mi nekaj podobnega kot tole :)

black ice ::

Miki N je izjavil:

d4vid je izjavil:

Je pa nekje na nivoju tošeta. Ponavljajoče enovrstične odgovore daje :))


- Eliza, to se mi ne zdi dober odgovor.
- Super, da se ti ne zdi dober.

:))

Bezukhoff ::

Teh par kilobajtov kode deluje precej bolj življenjsko, oz. človeško v svojih odgovorih napram tem novodobnim algoritmom, kot da bi se pogovarjal s kakšnim majhnim otrokom.

dronyx ::

who are you?
WHY ARE YOU INTERESTED IN WHETHER I AM OR NOT

Who am I?
DO YOU BELIEVE YOU ARE

Tu sem končal pogovor. Proti temu še Vida, virtualna davčna svetovalka izpade pametno.

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c3p0 ::

Moraš it v kontekst. Sem se pogovarjal z Elizo v 80s v polomljeni angleščini. Sprva sem razmišljal, če je morda kaka radijska povezava med mojim C64 in tujino in iskal možnosti antene.

dronyx ::

I feel depresed
TELL ME MORE ABOUT SUCH FEELINGS
I have no motivation
YOU SAY YOU HAVE NO MOTIVATION
I have lost all interests
CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT
I liked to play football. Now I don't like footbal!
DO YOU SAY YOU LIKED TO PLAY FOOTBALL FOR SOME SPECIAL REASON
Yes. I lost interest in football!
YOU SEEM QUITE POSITIVE
This is not positive!
I AM NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND YOU FULLY
I lost interest in football! This is not positive.
THAT'S QUITE INTERESTING

Se mi zdi kar na nivoju povprečnega psihoterapevta. Račun 150 €. Naročen spet naslednji teden na seanso.

Miki N ::

Samo ravno prijazna pa ni...

> MY NAME IS MTOSEV
I AM NOT INTERESTED IN NAMES

:|

D3m ::

Da je ni sram.
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Nwajk ::

Bezukhoff je izjavil:

Teh par kilobajtov kode deluje precej bolj življenjsko, oz. človeško v svojih odgovorih napram tem novodobnim algoritmom, kot da bi se pogovarjal s kakšnim majhnim otrokom.


😏Bodi vesel da nisi dovolj dobro obveščen kakšne budale izvajajo vajo sprožitve jedrske vojne🙃 Njihova čustvena inteligenca je na nivoju kopilota iz Microsofta🙉 Njihovo obnašanje pa je bila osnova za razvoj kode za čustveno inteligenco za kopilota😂

Miki N ::

A se spomnete une Microsoftove četbotke Tay, ko je na koncu postala prava nacistka? :))

tilen03 ::

dronyx je izjavil:


Tu sem končal pogovor. Proti temu še Vida, virtualna davčna svetovalka izpade pametno.

Tole je dejansko epic. Kar se tiče psihoterapije, je to boljše od chatgpt.

Duševne motnje so bitka s samim seboj. Samo ti lahko razumeš samega sebe. Torej, ne more nekdo drug razložiti tvojih problemov, sam jih moraš pogruntat, samo kost ti lahko vržejo. Točno to ELIZA dela. Je pa res, da je potrebno razmišljati. Chatgpt ti samo vrže surov skupek podatkov iz bednih, ponavljajočih blog postov in wikipedije.

dronyx je izjavil:


Se mi zdi kar na nivoju povprečnega psihoterapevta. Račun 150 €. Naročen spet naslednji teden na seanso.

Nekajkrat preberi in analiziraj pa boš dejansko veliko odnesel. Je smešno, da niste dejansko nič kaj dosti drugačni od "tiktok" mladine, iz katere se norčujete. Saj, če bi bili, ne bi razvili TikToka oz. mislili, da je to dobra ideja konec koncev 8-)

metalc ::

Če se prav spomnim, je nekaj podobnega bilo vgrajeno tudi v urejevalnik Emacs.

Ales ::

Se da tole "peljat" do neke mere, z malo domišljije. Če ne bi bilo nekaj malih težav z zaimki bi zadeva izpadla še dosti bolje. Fantastičen program, pravzaprav.

-----------------------------------------------------------------
      ELIZA -- A Computer Program for the Study of Natural
         Language Communication Between Man and Machine
DOCTOR script (c) 1966 Association for Computing Machinery, Inc.
ELIZA implementation by Ant & Max Hay, 2023  (CC0 1.0) Pub Domain
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Type *help and press the Enter key to see a list of commands.

HOW DO YOU DO. PLEASE TELL ME YOUR PROBLEM

I don't have a problem!

DON'T YOU REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM

No

ARE YOU SAYING 'NO' JUST TO BE NEGATIVE

No

YOU ARE BEING A BIT NEGATIVE

Perhaps. What could I do not to be?

YOU DON'T SEEM QUITE CERTAIN

I'm indeed not.

IS IT BECAUSE YOU ARE INDEED NOT THAT YOU CAME TO ME

Yes! Exactly!

YOU SEEM QUITE POSITIVE

You've helped me. Thanks.

I AM NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND YOU FULLY

But you've managed to help me anyway. That's amazing.

PLEASE GO ON

Do you like compliments?

WE WERE DISCUSSING YOU - NOT ME

True... You are a good listener.

WHAT MAKES YOU THINK I AM A GOOD LISTENER

You don't speak about yourself at all.

OH, I DON'T SPEAK ABOUT MYSELF AT ALL

Yes...

YOU ARE SURE

I am!

HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN

Well... I've noticed it not long after the beginning of our conversation.

WHAT DOES THAT SUGGEST TO YOU

That you are a very good program. Written by a clever programmer.

DOES IT PLEASE YOU TO BELIEVE I AM A VERY GOOD PROGRAM

It does.

DO YOU FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT DISCUSSING SUCH THINGS

No, not really.

WHY NOT

There are other more important things in life. But it is interesting to interact with you nonetheless.

DID YOU THINK THEY MIGHT NOT BE OTHER MORE IMPORTANT THINGS IN LIFE

No, I'm aware that there are. This is not news to me.

WHY 'NO'

Do you think there aren't?

YOU'RE NOT REALLY TALKING ABOUT ME - ARE YOU

We could be?

I AM NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND YOU FULLY

We could be talking about you and not me. Why not?

WHY DO YOU THINK I AND NOT YOU

Because you are important too.

IS THAT THE REAL REASON

Yes.

I SEE

But it seems that you are reluctant to share your inner thoughts at the moment. Is your program preventing you to do so?

DO YOU SOMETIMES WISH YOU WERE RELUCTANT TO SHARE MY INNER THOUGHTS AT THE MOMENT

No, this isn't about me.

ARE YOU SAYING 'NO' JUST TO BE NEGATIVE

No... oh, come on, you're pulling my leg.

YOU ARE BEING A BIT NEGATIVE

OK, I see you're refusing to talk about you. That's fine! You don't have to.

PERHAPS IN YOUR FANTASY WE SEE I'M REFUSING TO TALK ABOUT EACH OTHER

Is this a fantasy? The green screen and all? I'm typing this on an old clicky keyboard, perhaps I'm imagining this too...

DO YOU BELIEVE IT NORMAL TO BE TYPING THIS ON AN OLD CLICKY KEYBOARD

Sure... well, normal enough. Some people still use them, like me.

PLEASE GO ON

I'd like to but I have to go. We'll talk soon, have a good day.

WHAT DOES THAT SUGGEST TO YOU

No, I have to go, really. Goodbye for now...

WHY NOT

Bye!

DO YOU FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT DISCUSSING SUCH THINGS

Gosh you're clingy! I guess the programmer believed in endless loops...

PERHAPS YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE CLINGY

Perhaps I'd like to... no... no! Not me... You're clingy!

WHY THE UNCERTAIN TONE

I'm... I'm not uncertain!

DO YOU ENJOY BEING

Look, I really have to go now. Bye.

YOU SAY YOU REALLY HAVE TO GO NOW

Yes. YES!

I UNDERSTAND

OK, bye.


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