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SEC ovadil Elona Muska zaradi goljufije

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frudi ::

Potrjeno, link do poravnave.
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Zheegec ::

Poravnava velja striktno samo za to tožbo, torej nadaljne lahko še sledijo. DOJ preiskava itak poteka neodvisno.
"božja zapoved pravi; <Spoštuj očeta in mater>,
ne govori pa o spoštovanju sodstva."
Janez Janša, 29.04.2014

frudi ::

Ja, to je itak samoumevno. Piše pa še eksplicitno tudi v poravnavi.

So mu pa omejili direkten dostop do twiterja, lol :))
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Zheegec ::

Haha, omejili mu bodo komuniciranje. Ubogii Elon. Sedaj bodo pa njegovi fanboyi še bolj zadolženi za to, da vzdržujejo čim višjo ceno delnice.

-Musk will step down as Tesla's Chairman and be replaced by an independent Chairman. Musk will be ineligible to be re-elected Chairman for three years;
-Tesla will appoint a total of two new independent directors to its board;
-Tesla will establish a new committee of independent directors and put in place additional controls and procedures to oversee Musk's communications;

-Musk and Tesla will each pay a separate $20 million penalty. The $40 million in penalties will be distributed to harmed investors under a court-approved process.
"božja zapoved pravi; <Spoštuj očeta in mater>,
ne govori pa o spoštovanju sodstva."
Janez Janša, 29.04.2014

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WarpedOne ::

How do you know what you don't know?

Zheegec ::

Jap. Zato je Elon hitro poravnal vse skupaj. Prejšnja ponudba od SEC je bila 2-letna prepoved biti board chairperson in $20 mio kazen za Elona. Danes je sprejel 3-letno prepoved biti board chairperson in pa še $20 miljonov kazni za Teslo, poleg $20 miljonov kazni za Elona. Elonova odločitev, da zavrne prejšnjo poravnavo je Teslo stala še dodatnih $20 miljonov.

Kakšno je tvoje mnenje o trenutnem stanju v Tesli, WO?
"božja zapoved pravi; <Spoštuj očeta in mater>,
ne govori pa o spoštovanju sodstva."
Janez Janša, 29.04.2014

WarpedOne ::


ZachF said: ?
Let's face it, the SEC became a joke when they did absolutely nothing when the largest financial fraud in US history happened 10 years ago. They're owned by the big finance firms.


This.......on steroids. A $10B bet against Tesla is placed by the largest institutions. This bet that Tesla cannot produce will fail very visibly at the end of Q3......if not on Monday with an announcement of delivery numbers. Big Money calls the SEC for a lifeline that will allow them to pass their bets into the hands of smaller Short positions IN FULL by creating a mechanism (the lawsuit announcement) that dumps the share price enough for them to do so. The Short position on Monday morning will still be similar to what it was last week...........but it will be held by 'smaller hands' (not the President's smaller hands). And then Big Money will be buying like crazy to ride the price back up and crush the people that they handed their bag of 'stuff' to. This is really no different than 10 years ago, with the exception that 10 years ago GS torched Lehman Brothers (their competition). Next week they will torch their own followers. Greed has no shame. But it is a shame that Greed collects followers. And this next week may find many of those followers feeling a sense of shame.

The SEC announcement was literally made at the very last moment for it to have successfully bailed anyone out of a bad short bet before Oct 1st. That is why I see the SEC lawsuit itself as a dangerous bet. IMO the SEC will eventually do everything it can for this NOT to go to court, because like many others here I do not think that was the intention of filing the suit. But who wouldn't fully expect that Elon will do everything in his power to actually take this to court for the pain that it caused himself, his company, his employees, and every Long investor that he stood by and tried to protect when he finally decided not to go private. Protecting the banks that act recklessly appears to have only taught them they can continue to expect protection at the highest levels. Friday's price action adds fuel to Elon's case. A reversal next week that includes any gains by Big Money that held a Short Position as late as last week will only add further support.
How do you know what you don't know?

PaX_MaN ::

:conspiracy terorism intensifies:

Zheegec ::

Let's face it, the SEC became a joke when they did absolutely nothing when the largest financial fraud in US history happened 10 years ago.


Sem že odgovoril na to par strani nazaj. SEC ne preiskuje tega. Kar ti prvi dve črki v "SEC" jasno povesta. Za preiskavo finančne krize so odgovorni Fed, DOJ in po novem CFPB.

Pa ne lepiti nekih naključnih postov iz TMC, povej nam s svojimi besedami.
"božja zapoved pravi; <Spoštuj očeta in mater>,
ne govori pa o spoštovanju sodstva."
Janez Janša, 29.04.2014

WarpedOne ::

Ne izpolnjujejte minimalnih standardov za inteligentno razpravo.

How do you know what you don't know?

Zheegec ::

OK.
"božja zapoved pravi; <Spoštuj očeta in mater>,
ne govori pa o spoštovanju sodstva."
Janez Janša, 29.04.2014

frudi ::

Poravnava med drugim določa tudi, da Musk ne sme dajati nobenih javnih izjav - direktnih, indiretktnih ali cela takih, ki samo implicirajo - kako da ni storil nič narobe ali da je bila obtožnica proti njemu neutemeljena. Me res zanima, kako dolgo se bo uspel tega držati :P
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Zheegec ::

Mislim, da to ne bo problem. Obstaja cel kup fanboy strani, ki bodo objavile karkoli jim Elon reče. Sedaj bo pa uporabil te za višanje cene delnice z objavo raznih govoric in polresnic. Lastnikom teh fanboy strani je Elon obljubil novi Tesla Roadster preko Teslinega referral marketinga, tako da imajo zelo dobro iniciativo, da ga ubogajo.

Poleg tega je Elon danes najavil, da bo kupil za $20 mio Tesla delnic. Še ena stvar, da bi povišal vrednost delnice. Res si želi, da bi šla delnica preko $360 za dlje časa, vprašanje če mu bo uspelo.
"božja zapoved pravi; <Spoštuj očeta in mater>,
ne govori pa o spoštovanju sodstva."
Janez Janša, 29.04.2014

frudi ::

Sej delnico lahko še naprej pumpa, pa najavlja AP fičerje, ki jih še mesece ali leta ne bo in podobne zadeve.

Kar mene bolj zanima je, če se bo res lahko vzdržal, da ne bo javno dajal nobenih komentarjev, kako da ni bil kriv tega, kar mu je SEC očital. Glede na to, kako je še včeraj sveto zatrjeval, da so obtožbe povsem neutemeljene in kako da mu je integriteta najpomembnejša vrednota :P. Recimo ta njegova včerajšnja izjava, če bi jo objavil zdaj, bi pomenila kršitev poravnave. Zdaj ne sme z javnimi izjavami niti implicirati, da je SEC ravnal neutemeljeno ali da on sam ni storil ničesar narobe. Me res zanima, kako se bo uspel držati tega, ko bo v prihodnje zadet ali v afektu tvital :D
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Zheegec ::

Ne bo več smel. Vse njegove objave na Twitterju in drugje bodo šle čez proces "preverjanja" :)

Ja, tudi jaz dvomim da se bo lahko dolgo zadrževal. Itak ima večje probleme.
"božja zapoved pravi; <Spoštuj očeta in mater>,
ne govori pa o spoštovanju sodstva."
Janez Janša, 29.04.2014

gendale2018 ::

frudi je izjavil:

Sej delnico lahko še naprej pumpa, pa najavlja AP fičerje, ki jih še mesece ali leta ne bo in podobne zadeve.

Kar mene bolj zanima je, če se bo res lahko vzdržal, da ne bo javno dajal nobenih komentarjev, kako da ni bil kriv tega, kar mu je SEC očital. Glede na to, kako je še včeraj sveto zatrjeval, da so obtožbe povsem neutemeljene in kako da mu je integriteta najpomembnejša vrednota :P. Recimo ta njegova včerajšnja izjava, če bi jo objavil zdaj, bi pomenila kršitev poravnave. Zdaj ne sme z javnimi izjavami niti implicirati, da je SEC ravnal neutemeljeno ali da on sam ni storil ničesar narobe. Me res zanima, kako se bo uspel držati tega, ko bo v prihodnje zadet ali v afektu tvital :D

pumpa lahko dokler ljudje nasedajo, torej še vedno

zdržal pa itak ne bo dolgo, to je tko kot če jst ne bi smel bit troll :D
ja sam mali poštar, kurac mi je oštar
čuvajte se žene, bit ćete jebene

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FlyingBee ::

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