V vzhodni Ukrajini internetni promet že teče prek Rusije

Zimonem je 18. jul 2022 ob 11:43 izjavil:

Dobavljanje orožja dolgega dosega, bo kvečjemu kontraproduktivno. Bodo Rusi pač globje posegali bi ukraino.

Ojej, skoraj na ravni Poldija. 2 za trud.

fikus_ je 18. jul 2022 ob 13:27 izjavil:

Sem pisal za Zelenskega in njegovo ženo in če guglaš Panama papers, najdeš, za Putina pa ne, ker ima zelo verjetno "premoženje" parkirano v RU.

Za Putina ga držijo slamnati možje. Dobra minutka:



https://www.occrp.org/en/panamapapers/p...

axaxaaxaxaxaxaxa Za denar, ki sta ga dobila za sina padlega v specialni vojaški operaciji, sta kupila novo Lado. Belo, ker bi on tako hotel. In potem to objavijo na Rossiya jedan, kot primer boja proti fašizmu. axaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa

video

https://twitter.com/_A_Vit_/status/1548...

- Mother, dance!
- And what happened?
- Our Vanka in a bag was brought from Ukraine. We're going to buy a new car!
- Well, finally waited!

The moral degradation of Russians has reached its climax. This country needs to be quarantined for decades. To keep the infection from spreading.

fikus_ je 18. jul 2022 ob 14:31 izjavil:

Unchancy je 18. jul 2022 ob 13:42 izjavil:

fikus_ je 18. jul 2022 ob 13:36 izjavil:

Unchancy je 18. jul 2022 ob 13:34 izjavil:

fikus_ je 18. jul 2022 ob 13:29 izjavil:

Unchancy je 18. jul 2022 ob 13:21 izjavil:

fikus_ je 18. jul 2022 ob 12:49 izjavil:

Zelenski verjetno res ne, zato pa njegova žena ima dosti pod palcem. guglaj Panama papers.

Na drugi strani pa Putin z 200 milijardami. Spominja na štetje fičnikov Jajotu, na drugi strani pa nekaj deset milijonski nadpoštenjaki.

Verjamem, da ima Putin veliko pod palcem, zelo verjetno dvomljivega izvora, ampak to tvoje pisanje je pa "vatabutizem", brez argumentov.

Nikakor ne gre za whataboutizem, saj se pogovarjamo o Rusiji in Ukrajini in moj odgovor zagotovo ne vključuje arabskih šejkov in podobnih.
Zlonamerno natepavanje o domnevnem “bogastvu Zelenskega” zelo hitro naleti na odgovor o precej manj domnevnem enormnem bogastvu Putina. Deal with it.

Argument fant moj, ne pa saj druga stran tudi!

1. A je kakšen vir za to, da je Zelenski skorumpiran?
2. V bistvu tudi če bi bil, mene to ne moti pretirano, dokler je na drugi strani najbolj skorumpiran “vladar” (a je to že novi Putinov naziv?), ki ogroža evropsko varnost. To naj skrbi Ukrajince.

1. guglaj Panama papers. Linki so že bili na Slo.Tech
1. Kaj te (ne) moti je tvoja stvar, drugo je "vatabutizem" in ne argument. UA ima smolo, da je soseda RU. Sposobni UA politiki bi znali speljati, da je volk sit in koza cela.

fur80 je 18. jul 2022 ob 13:46 izjavil:

fikus_ je 18. jul 2022 ob 13:40 izjavil:

Čigavi črni fondi, UA se je pripravljala na ponovno zavzetje vzhoda. RU so to vedeli, prav tako so vedeli za pomoč usa (obseg verjetno ne).
Tudi Putin je računal, da bo Zelenski spakiral in pobegnil, ko se bodo v koloni pripelali do Kijeva, ampak se je uštel.

No saj to, misliš, da je Ukrajina vse uradno delala, v vojski so imeli in še imajo mnogo špijunov! Tako ko se je Zelenski odzval, to ni bil njegov denar, misliš, da si kopičiš miljarde, potem te pa v kleti skinejo Rusi? Sigurno so imeli tajne račune, kupovali v tajnosti orožje imeli spoznorje, saj če ne bi, bi bili nori in ne obratno. Putler se pa sigurno ni 24. 2. odločil za napad!

Aha, sedaj so računi Zelenskega in njegove žene iz vira "Panama papers" tajni računi za nabavo UA orožja. Zanimivo.

Kaj misliš, da to ni možno? Misliš, da Hrvati tega niso imeli, ko so jim zablokirali nabavo orožja, misliš, da Ukrajinci niso pomislili na to? Jao bože... Kdo pa bo poblaščen za ta denar, če ne predsednik, bo to Jože iz Kungote zvsemi gesli?

Hjaooo, ducat "bidnovih orgelj" in snajperskih kanonov, razfuka
drugo najmočnejšo vojsko?
https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/stat...
Naj raje gredo krompir okopavat, ne pa vojake špilat.

nit, član navalnijeve ekipe

https://twitter.com/leonidvolkov/status...

Putin's next (and final) battle.
(This thread went viral in Russian so I decided to publish an English version as well)

A long thread about what, in my opinion, is Putin's strategy right now, and the last gamble he is making to break Ukraine's resistance.

...

This approach allows them to slowly advance and avoid significant losses in the regular army (which had lost 30-50% of its personnel in the first months of the war), but now the HIMARS are dramatically changing the balance of power, leveling Russia’s artillery superiority.

That's why Putin now eagerly craves a ceasefire. Not only to draw up reserves and give the troops a breather (which Ukraine will do as well), but primarily to secure the status quo.

A truce would mean drawing a demarcation line on the map, which would determine political reality for years to come — there's nothing more permanent than the temporary. And once this truce is established, the "bad peace is better than good war" party will win in Europe.

...

Right now Ukraine enjoys considerable (albeit insufficient and not unconditional) support from the West. But if a "bad peace" prevails, the situation will change radically. Resuming hostilities when European voters have already breathed a sigh of relief that the war is over will be infinitely more difficult politically. An attempt to de-occupy Kherson or Izium will be perceived very differently by Western society. "Everything has just calmed down, and now they're shooting again," is what many European voters will be thinking.

I'm sure they understand all this well in Kyiv; but so do they in Moscow. Putin's next big gamble in the Ukrainian war is a special operation to force a cease-fire, which would formalize the annexation, providing a several-year pause to prepare for the next phase of the war.

...

Ukraine's Achilles' heel is its dependence on the West. The war has destroyed much of its economy, and there's nothing left to fight with apart from Western armament. Kyiv can't cope without European support right now - and this creates opportunities for blackmail.

Putin's message in June was simple: "Dear Scholz, Macron, Draghi, it's either you force Zelenskyy to accept peace or I starve North Africa, you get millions of new refugees in Europe, and your governments get taken over by right-wing radicals (which I’ll finance myself)"

...

The experts were wrong to think ill of the European leaders, however - Putin's hunger blackmail did not work, values and principles prevailed.

But as we know, Putin has two allies. And since General Hunger failed, Field Marshal Cold will now be sent to the front lines.

If Putin has learned one thing during his 22 years in power, that's the thing: if you cannot deal with Western politicians directly, you need to work with their electorate. They depend on public opinion too (and this is their strength, which Putin considers a weakness).

Winter is coming. This makes it possible to play the gas card with maximum efficiency in the coming months. This is what Putin will do — he will try to scare the Europeans with the prospect of freezing to death in their homes this winter.

To do this, he will use all the agents and resources he has accumulated over the years: corrupt politicians and journalists, marginal parties and "experts" who will say profoundly: "Of course we pity Ukraine, but we have to do what Putin wants so that Europe doesn't freeze..."



What can we do about it all?

1. Forewarned is forearmed. Don't be fooled. Europe may have a difficult winter ahead of it (although its dependence of households on Russian gas should not be exaggerated). But this is the necessary price of the past eight years of indifference and inaction. We must get through this winter: if we give in now and cave in to Putin's conditions, then in 6-8 years Europe will almost certainly face another winter, the nuclear one.

2. Ukraine's window of opportunity to de-occupy Kherson and other territories is rather small: the closer to winter, the more important factor will be gas blackmail (obviously, Ukraine is well aware of this, and is preparing for a counterattack at a rapid pace). Serious military achievements are needed not only in and of themselves, but also to handle the public opinion in Europe: to make the public believe in the possibility of a Ukrainian victory and be ready to grit their teeth and endure.

3. Remember that it's not by choice that Putin resorts to hunger and cold blackmail. His military gamble has failed. Putin is rapidly losing support inside Russia. He also realizes that he has only 2-3 months to secure a ceasefire on favorable terms. These will probably be the most difficult 2-3 months, but then Putin will lose. He has already lost, of course, but it is now necessary to crush him, not to let him crawl away. To withstand his final blow.

Pac-Man je 18. jul 2022 ob 16:46 izjavil:

nit, član navalnijeve ekipe

https://twitter.com/leonidvolkov/status...

Putin's next (and final) battle.
(This thread went viral in Russian so I decided to publish an English version as well)

A long thread about what, in my opinion, is Putin's strategy right now, and the last gamble he is making to break Ukraine's resistance.

...

This approach allows them to slowly advance and avoid significant losses in the regular army (which had lost 30-50% of its personnel in the first months of the war), but now the HIMARS are dramatically changing the balance of power, leveling Russia’s artillery superiority.

That's why Putin now eagerly craves a ceasefire. Not only to draw up reserves and give the troops a breather (which Ukraine will do as well), but primarily to secure the status quo.

A truce would mean drawing a demarcation line on the map, which would determine political reality for years to come — there's nothing more permanent than the temporary. And once this truce is established, the "bad peace is better than good war" party will win in Europe.

...

Right now Ukraine enjoys considerable (albeit insufficient and not unconditional) support from the West. But if a "bad peace" prevails, the situation will change radically. Resuming hostilities when European voters have already breathed a sigh of relief that the war is over will be infinitely more difficult politically. An attempt to de-occupy Kherson or Izium will be perceived very differently by Western society. "Everything has just calmed down, and now they're shooting again," is what many European voters will be thinking.

I'm sure they understand all this well in Kyiv; but so do they in Moscow. Putin's next big gamble in the Ukrainian war is a special operation to force a cease-fire, which would formalize the annexation, providing a several-year pause to prepare for the next phase of the war.

...

Ukraine's Achilles' heel is its dependence on the West. The war has destroyed much of its economy, and there's nothing left to fight with apart from Western armament. Kyiv can't cope without European support right now - and this creates opportunities for blackmail.

Putin's message in June was simple: "Dear Scholz, Macron, Draghi, it's either you force Zelenskyy to accept peace or I starve North Africa, you get millions of new refugees in Europe, and your governments get taken over by right-wing radicals (which I’ll finance myself)"

...

The experts were wrong to think ill of the European leaders, however - Putin's hunger blackmail did not work, values and principles prevailed.

But as we know, Putin has two allies. And since General Hunger failed, Field Marshal Cold will now be sent to the front lines.

If Putin has learned one thing during his 22 years in power, that's the thing: if you cannot deal with Western politicians directly, you need to work with their electorate. They depend on public opinion too (and this is their strength, which Putin considers a weakness).

Winter is coming. This makes it possible to play the gas card with maximum efficiency in the coming months. This is what Putin will do — he will try to scare the Europeans with the prospect of freezing to death in their homes this winter.

To do this, he will use all the agents and resources he has accumulated over the years: corrupt politicians and journalists, marginal parties and "experts" who will say profoundly: "Of course we pity Ukraine, but we have to do what Putin wants so that Europe doesn't freeze..."



What can we do about it all?

1. Forewarned is forearmed. Don't be fooled. Europe may have a difficult winter ahead of it (although its dependence of households on Russian gas should not be exaggerated). But this is the necessary price of the past eight years of indifference and inaction. We must get through this winter: if we give in now and cave in to Putin's conditions, then in 6-8 years Europe will almost certainly face another winter, the nuclear one.

2. Ukraine's window of opportunity to de-occupy Kherson and other territories is rather small: the closer to winter, the more important factor will be gas blackmail (obviously, Ukraine is well aware of this, and is preparing for a counterattack at a rapid pace). Serious military achievements are needed not only in and of themselves, but also to handle the public opinion in Europe: to make the public believe in the possibility of a Ukrainian victory and be ready to grit their teeth and endure.

3. Remember that it's not by choice that Putin resorts to hunger and cold blackmail. His military gamble has failed. Putin is rapidly losing support inside Russia. He also realizes that he has only 2-3 months to secure a ceasefire on favorable terms. These will probably be the most difficult 2-3 months, but then Putin will lose. He has already lost, of course, but it is now necessary to crush him, not to let him crawl away. To withstand his final blow.

Dosti blablabla, malo pametnega povedanega. Ce se zdaj putler umakne, za predah in malo pavze, bo ukrajina 1 2 3 v EU in Nato, putler bo dozivel samo se vecji poraz.

Tudi Nizozemska ne bo kar "kapitulirala". Rusi so pobili skoraj 200 njihovih drzavljanov.

Unchancy je 18. jul 2022 ob 03:21 izjavil:

Poldi112 argumenti analizirani in potolčeni:

Se bojim, da je zgolj poceni propaganda. Nobenega argumenta, zgolj izgovori tipa "saj še niso misili v NATO" pa ter kup ovinkarjenja (zavajnaje).

Razumem pa, zakaj ti je všeč. Saj že za uvod pove, da, kot večina zahodnih "medijev" tudi oni "take it for granted that Putin is a bad guy, and Zelensky is good guy".

blay44 je 18. jul 2022 ob 16:07 izjavil:

Hjaooo, ducat "bidnovih orgelj" in snajperskih kanonov, razfuka
drugo najmočnejšo vojsko?
https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/stat...
Naj raje gredo krompir okopavat, ne pa vojake špilat.

Očitno je bolj Twitter zmaga, ker kontra ofenzive še ni.

:)

fur80 je 18. jul 2022 ob 09:16 izjavil:

Poldi res me zanima, kako so nas branili Rusi in kdaj!?!?

Rusi so dejansko zlomili nacije, medtem ko smo mi in ostala evropa bolj kot ne izvajali terorizem (pa ne, da je s tem kaj narobe, pač pretežno nismo imeli moči za več).

Američani si pri tem zgolj dobro zaslužiil, ko so jim rusi nato še pol stoletja vračali dolgove, da so izvajali njihovo strategijo:

if that Russia is winning, we ought to help Germany, and in that way let them kill as many as possible

Bodoči ameriški predsednik, ki je kasneje nukaj japonce (seveda tudi v njihovo dobro).

Kako prijazno od američanov, da še 70 let po tem, ko so nemci povozili ruse, branijo nemce pred rusi, ter podobno japonce, ki so predtem brutalizirali kitajce - pred kitajci.

Le kaj bi nemci in japonci brez ZDA ...

https://twitter.com/TheStudyofWar/statu...
According to @TheStudyofWar, the new #Russian large-scale drive to form volunteer battalions will allow only 30 days of training and thus will not produce combat-ready soldiers.

škoda še tega meseca...

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Vladimir Putin's second-in-command 'survives assassination attempt by poison'
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-...

"Recently, an attempt on the life of the secretary of the Security Council of the Russian Federation, Nikolai Patrushev, was made," said Telegram channel General SVR which claims to have insider sources in the Kremlin.

Poldi112 je 18. jul 2022 ob 18:24 izjavil:

Unchancy je 18. jul 2022 ob 03:21 izjavil:

Poldi112 argumenti analizirani in potolčeni:

Se bojim, da je zgolj poceni propaganda. Nobenega argumenta, zgolj izgovori tipa "saj še niso misili v NATO" pa ter kup ovinkarjenja (zavajnaje).

Razumem pa, zakaj ti je všeč. Saj že za uvod pove, da, kot večina zahodnih "medijev" tudi oni "take it for granted that Putin is a bad guy, and Zelensky is good guy".

V primerjavi s Hitlerjem je bil takrat vsak good guy, enako zdaj v primerjavi s Putinom. Sploh ni treba iti v podrobnosti (obstoječe ali neobstoječe)

https://twitter.com/vcdgf555/status/154...
We may be looking at the remains of 10% of the Russian Su-34M modernized variant known to exist.

According to @scramble_nl there's only one RU Su-34 whose RF number ends in '90.' That is RF-95890 & it is an M - with improvements in avionics, radar, comms, EW & weapons systems.

Unchancy je 18. jul 2022 ob 19:40 izjavil:

Griffin R500 je 18. jul 2022 ob 19:24 izjavil:

Kdaj dobimo ruski internet?

Še malo in bodo kmalu na Poljski meji. Putin do Londona.
Takole denacificirajo Ukrajino, da se znebijo banditov Sorosa in Biden and Co. wanna be God pedo transeksualce z vsemi njihovimi cepljenimi in LGTBQ podporniki satanistov.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/tXCwpG4F...

Prepričan sem, da si pozabil omeniti Vatikan in feministke. Pokesaj se!

No....saj te so po večini implementirane v tistem L-ju.

Griffin R500 je 18. jul 2022 ob 20:10 izjavil:

Unchancy je 18. jul 2022 ob 19:40 izjavil:

Griffin R500 je 18. jul 2022 ob 19:24 izjavil:

Kdaj dobimo ruski internet?

Še malo in bodo kmalu na Poljski meji. Putin do Londona.
Takole denacificirajo Ukrajino, da se znebijo banditov Sorosa in Biden and Co. wanna be God pedo transeksualce z vsemi njihovimi cepljenimi in LGTBQ podporniki satanistov.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/tXCwpG4F...

Prepričan sem, da si pozabil omeniti Vatikan in feministke. Pokesaj se!

No....saj te so po večini implementirane v tistem L-ju.

Z Vatikanom je pa tako, da samo reče in požegna. Center satanistov.

Lepo, naj izklopi. Tega 'asa' odšpila enkrat, potem bo porabljen in če bo eu pametna bo poskrbela, da kaj podobnega ne bo več. Za nobenega diktatorja.

TezkoDihanje je 18. jul 2022 ob 18:41 izjavil:

D3m je 18. jul 2022 ob 18:38 izjavil:

Bedarija.

Jok brate.

TESKAn je 18. jul 2022 ob 20:47 izjavil:

Lepo, naj izklopi. Tega 'asa' odšpila enkrat, potem bo porabljen in če bo eu pametna bo poskrbela, da kaj podobnega ne bo več. Za nobenega diktatorja.

Ce bi bili pametni, ne bi rinili k izraelcem.

l0g1t3ch je 18. jul 2022 ob 21:18 izjavil:

Haha, ko se druga vojaška velesila boji 8 USA tovornjakov! :D

Neprecenljivo! :D

Morda pa letos ne bo tako hude potrebe po plinu za ogrevanje? Nekaj procentov manj, malo še pošpramo in bo padel škis na platelca.

https://siol.net/novice/slovenija/meteo...

A pol bo kontra ofenziva zdaj zdaj? xD

To v dnevno sobo, pa lahko Rusi odjebejo mogoče ajde za firme je tam malo drugače, ampak če si ni kdo sposobn 2m bukovih drv zrihtat za zimo potem pa ne vem kaj dela na tem svetu! :D

https://prity.si/izdelek/prity-mini/

D3m je 18. jul 2022 ob 22:05 izjavil:

Pol so zeleni out?

Da ne bomo dobili CO2 kupončke za peči. :)

Kot so rekli, zeleni plin šparamo za prihodnje generacije, mi bomo se še greli na drva, pač Rusi so zajebali! :D