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olegq je 22. okt 2020 ob 20:19 izjavil:

A tako, zdaj bom preiskal cel svet, da bi lahko nasel kaksen clanek o zrtvi gripe? M

olegq je 22. okt 2020 ob 20:19 izjavil:

edtem ko za kovid lahko najdem na glavnih slovenskih medijih clanke brez problema.

olegq je 22. okt 2020 ob 20:27 izjavil:

Nisem len. Sem iskal pa nisem najdel.

olegq je 22. okt 2020 ob 20:27 izjavil:

Najdel sem samo posamicne primere iz leta 2009 za prasicjo oziroma preimenovano v novo gripo.

olegq je 22. okt 2020 ob 20:31 izjavil:

@jureflux pravi, da so bili clanki. Ce mi lahko das link prosim.

olegq je 22. okt 2020 ob 20:34 izjavil:

Ce ni clankov, pridemo do ugotovitve,

olegq je 22. okt 2020 ob 20:34 izjavil:

Zakaj mediji strasijo z zrtvami kovid?

HappyPills je 22. okt 2020 ob 20:42 izjavil:

Itak da so članki. Problem je ker od gripe ljudje ne umirajo niti približno ne toliko kot od covida.
Evo tukaj je ko je celo eden v sezoni od gripe umrl in je bil članek
https://www.rtvslo.si/zdravje/veliko-bo...

Kot smo že večkrat rekli Covid je 10x bolj nevaren. In če boš olegg v rtvslo vpisal ključno besedo gripa si lahko to tudi potrdiš. Veselo noč ob branju člankov ti želim

Uizi je 22. okt 2020 ob 20:57 izjavil:

https://eand.co/how-the-western-world-f...

Evo ti članek, ravno zate @olegq!

Uizi je 22. okt 2020 ob 20:57 izjavil:

Right about now, we should probably be asking the question: has Western individualism reached toxic levels? If my right to go to the bar or the sports game outweighs society's rights not to get ill with a deadly virus, how can such a nation ever prosper? Aren't these values profoundly childish and backwards? And isn't the East perhaps right to point out that nations must sometimes pull together, instead of be resentful of each other, embittered, and careless, when grave challenges arise? In what world, really, is my right to sip a glass of wine more important than the public health of a society?

I can certainly understand the idea that civilisation is based, in some sense, on the idea of sitting at the bar, sipping your coffee, and watching the world go by. True enough. But that is a genuinely harmless act. What much of the West seems to be fighting for, to the rest of the world's eyes, is the baffling position of freedom as the right to harm another -- and they are quite right to point out that such societies can only self destruct.

Then there is the question of the long term. If Western societies have reached a point of toxic individualism, a level so extreme that they can't pull together to fight a lethal pandemic -- then what about the future? How are they going to come together to fight the next wave of existential challenges, from climate change to ecological collapse to mass extinction -- when the going gets rough?

What happens when food chains begin to implode, and water tables salinify, and air quality drops to unbreathable -- when abusing the planet begins to impact the life of even rich Westerners in tangible and powerful ways, as it surely will within the next five years to a decade? Won't the same resentments and attitudes of toxic individualism simply reign, all over again? "No, I won't reduce my water use, to make sure everyone has enough! No, I won't help pay for the investment in food chains that we all need!! That's not my job! No, I won't change my life at all -- that's freedom!!"

https://eand.co/how-the-western-world-f...

Evo ti članek, ravno zate @olegq!

mojter je 22. okt 2020 ob 21:05 izjavil:

Uizi je 22. okt 2020 ob 20:57 izjavil:

Right about now, we should probably be asking the question: has Western individualism reached toxic levels? If my right to go to the bar or the sports game outweighs society's rights not to get ill with a deadly virus, how can such a nation ever prosper? Aren't these values profoundly childish and backwards? And isn't the East perhaps right to point out that nations must sometimes pull together, instead of be resentful of each other, embittered, and careless, when grave challenges arise? In what world, really, is my right to sip a glass of wine more important than the public health of a society?

I can certainly understand the idea that civilisation is based, in some sense, on the idea of sitting at the bar, sipping your coffee, and watching the world go by. True enough. But that is a genuinely harmless act. What much of the West seems to be fighting for, to the rest of the world's eyes, is the baffling position of freedom as the right to harm another -- and they are quite right to point out that such societies can only self destruct.

Then there is the question of the long term. If Western societies have reached a point of toxic individualism, a level so extreme that they can't pull together to fight a lethal pandemic -- then what about the future? How are they going to come together to fight the next wave of existential challenges, from climate change to ecological collapse to mass extinction -- when the going gets rough?

What happens when food chains begin to implode, and water tables salinify, and air quality drops to unbreathable -- when abusing the planet begins to impact the life of even rich Westerners in tangible and powerful ways, as it surely will within the next five years to a decade? Won't the same resentments and attitudes of toxic individualism simply reign, all over again? "No, I won't reduce my water use, to make sure everyone has enough! No, I won't help pay for the investment in food chains that we all need!! That's not my job! No, I won't change my life at all -- that's freedom!!"

https://eand.co/how-the-western-world-f...

Evo ti članek, ravno zate @olegq!

A zahtevati da se drugi odpovejo svojem poslu, sanjam, zdravju, svobodi, da boš ti varen pred virusom pa ni sebično? Vsak sam se lahko nekam zapre in bo varen pred virusi.

sbawe64 je 22. okt 2020 ob 21:12 izjavil:

Koliko obdukcij je bilo opravljeno v Slo, da lahko z gotovostjo trdijo da so umrli od covida ?

Uizi je 22. okt 2020 ob 21:08 izjavil:

belo mleko je 22. okt 2020 ob 21:01 izjavil:

Uizi je 22. okt 2020 ob 20:57 izjavil:

https://eand.co/how-the-western-world-f...

Evo ti članek, ravno zate @olegq!

Javkanje. Eno je ne iti na pir, drugo je gostilničarjem, hotelirjem, avio industriji in ostalim uničiti življenja. Par mescev brez dela še gre, več te psihično uniči.

Javkanje. Uničili si jih boste sami, ste na dobri poti. Če pocrka 25% podjetij je še vedno bolje to, kot da kolapsira celoten sistem.

sbawe64 je 22. okt 2020 ob 21:17 izjavil:

Obdukcijo zahtevajo svojci in skrbniki. Ampak oni nimajo možganskih posškod, tako kot ti, zato ni potrebe, ker jim je jasno. @olegq

Kaj jim je jasno ?

olegq je 22. okt 2020 ob 21:35 izjavil:

Ali veste, koliko procentov prebivalstva priblizno zboli zarad gripe vsako sezono? Morda 20%? 400.000? Morda. Koliko je taksnih, ki imajo v sebi virus gripe ampak ne kazejo simptomov. Ce bi vsak dan testirali kot za covid, vtikali v nos vsakemu v razredu, kjer je en ucenec imel simptome gripe. Bi imeli ogromno pozitivnih. Ampak tega se ne dela. Tisti, ki ne kazejo simptomov gripe, se jim ne vtika testov v nos. Pri koroni pa vse zivo. Samo da se dela panika.

Drgač pa na plečih starejših smo prišli do blagostanja kot ga imamo danes. Normalno je da se poskrbi da živijo dokler sami želijo. In mnogi starejši ne želijo kr umret tko k se prikazuje da je "normalno ker si itak star" . Sam zato ker pač mlajši nočejo bit mal bolj skromni pri svojem življenju začasno.

mojter je 22. okt 2020 ob 21:45 izjavil:

Če se starejši in ostali ogroženi izolirajo po domovih jih ne bo okužil nihče. A jim je res tako težko ostat doma za lastno varnost?