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Rusija vs. Ukrajina aka. "Putin - še sladkih 16 let na oblasti?"
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Poldi112 ::
Kako je nerelevantno, če za zastrupitev kriviš njegovo ekipo.
Tole pač ni povezano z Nord Stream, ampak gre zgolj za interni ruski politični obračun.
Tole pač ni povezano z Nord Stream, ampak gre zgolj za interni ruski politični obračun.
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Pac-Man ::
Pri Daily Beast pravijo, da uradna zgodba o koki na ruski ambasadi v Argentini smrdi. Članek na povezavi, ampak trenutno za paywallom. Kolumne po par tednih spustijo na svetlo.
https://twitter.com/michaeldweiss/statu...
Remember when around 400 kilos of virtually uncut cocaine were found at the Russian embassy in Argentina? The official story of how this happened stinks. We obtained ALL the Russian and Argentinian investigative case files. They point to a coverup:
We've obtained access to FSB and Russian Interior Ministry case files, including wiretaps of both the Russian and Argentine suspects in this massive drug-running operation.
What Moscow and Buenos Aires allege simply doesn't add up. One Argentinian intelligence official told us the main defendant, Andrei Kovalchuk, was likely a Russian intelligence official. An FSB defector from Directorate K (the same unit tasked with investigating this case) said this is either a drug sting operation gone sideways or a narco-trafficking ring orchestrated by Russian intelligence to procure money for 'black operations.'
In collaboration with @dossier_center, we've found enormous holes and discrepancies in both the Russian and Argentinian investigations, including evidence which complicates the prosecution of two of the alleged conspirators in this case. Several people still employed by the Russian Foreign Ministry were implicated in helping Kovalchuk smuggle wares across state borders. One of them committed "suicide" in Moscow. The others haven't been investigated, reprimanded, suspended or fired from their jobs.
Our exposé is based on "hundreds of hours of telephone wiretap recordings, reams of witness and suspect interrogation transcripts, and nearly 10,000 pages of police and intelligence case files." The source who leaked the Argentinian case files did so because they believed their government wasn’t behaving professionally and they wanted independent media to conduct its own investigation. Ponder that.
https://twitter.com/michaeldweiss/statu...
Remember when around 400 kilos of virtually uncut cocaine were found at the Russian embassy in Argentina? The official story of how this happened stinks. We obtained ALL the Russian and Argentinian investigative case files. They point to a coverup:
We've obtained access to FSB and Russian Interior Ministry case files, including wiretaps of both the Russian and Argentine suspects in this massive drug-running operation.
What Moscow and Buenos Aires allege simply doesn't add up. One Argentinian intelligence official told us the main defendant, Andrei Kovalchuk, was likely a Russian intelligence official. An FSB defector from Directorate K (the same unit tasked with investigating this case) said this is either a drug sting operation gone sideways or a narco-trafficking ring orchestrated by Russian intelligence to procure money for 'black operations.'
In collaboration with @dossier_center, we've found enormous holes and discrepancies in both the Russian and Argentinian investigations, including evidence which complicates the prosecution of two of the alleged conspirators in this case. Several people still employed by the Russian Foreign Ministry were implicated in helping Kovalchuk smuggle wares across state borders. One of them committed "suicide" in Moscow. The others haven't been investigated, reprimanded, suspended or fired from their jobs.
Our exposé is based on "hundreds of hours of telephone wiretap recordings, reams of witness and suspect interrogation transcripts, and nearly 10,000 pages of police and intelligence case files." The source who leaked the Argentinian case files did so because they believed their government wasn’t behaving professionally and they wanted independent media to conduct its own investigation. Ponder that.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
Pijan povzročiš prometno nesrečo s smrtnim izidom in si kritik režima? 8 let zapora, neodgovoren prasec!!!!
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/09/...
https://www.rferl.org/a/witness-says-ru...
Pijan povzročiš prometno nesrečo s smrtnim izidom in si sin viceguvernerja? Ni panike, 30000 rub (340€) kazni boš že zmogel.
https://twitter.com/prof_preobr/status/...
https://en.newizv.ru/news/incident/21-0...
https://www.tellerreport.com/news/2020-...
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/09/...
https://www.rferl.org/a/witness-says-ru...
Pijan povzročiš prometno nesrečo s smrtnim izidom in si sin viceguvernerja? Ni panike, 30000 rub (340€) kazni boš že zmogel.
https://twitter.com/prof_preobr/status/...
https://en.newizv.ru/news/incident/21-0...
https://www.tellerreport.com/news/2020-...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
Spet off:
Coca Cola je v 40ih na željo maršala Žukova delala prozorno različico svoje pijače, da je zgledalo kot da pije proletarsko vodko namesto kapitalistične scalnice.
White Coke @ Wikipedia
Coca Cola je v 40ih na željo maršala Žukova delala prozorno različico svoje pijače, da je zgledalo kot da pije proletarsko vodko namesto kapitalistične scalnice.
White Coke @ Wikipedia
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
V Rusiji mislijo uzakonit dosmrtno imuniteto za bivše predsednike, tudi za kriminalnenje, ki bi ga počeli ko zapustijo položaj. Misli Putka v privatni sektor? :)
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/11/...
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/11/...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
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c3p0 ::
Spet off:
Coca Cola je v 40ih na željo maršala Žukova delala prozorno različico svoje pijače, da je zgledalo kot da pije proletarsko vodko namesto kapitalistične scalnice.
White Coke @ Wikipedia
Trivia by Paco, kdo bi si mislil. Prozorne različice so sicer delali tudi na zahodu, npr. Crystal Pepsi, nekako se ni prijelo. Spomnim se takih pijač tudi pri nas, v 90's.
Pac-Man ::
Crystal Pepsi mi je znana, zgodovino sem šel gledat ker sem kupil off brand prozorno colo in mi je tole padlo v uči.
Cola @ Wikipedia
Cola @ Wikipedia
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
Krasni novi svet, dostop do moskovskih kamer za prepoznavo obrazov se dobi že za 200$.
https://twitter.com/AASchapiro/status/1...
There are ads on the 'dark web' offering anyone access to Moscow's network of facial recognition cameras for as little as $200—for stalking, or snooping; no questions asked.
So, Anna Kuznetsova went undercover & bought her own data.
Then she sued.
Reuters: Face for sale - Leaks and lawsuits blight Russia facial recognition
When Anna Kuznetsova saw an ad offering access to Moscow's face recognition cameras, all she had to do was pay 16,000 roubles ($200) and send a photo of the person she wanted spying on.
The 20-year-old - who was acting as a volunteer for a digital rights group investigating leaks in Moscow's pervasive surveillance system - sent over a picture of herself and waited.
Two days later and her phone buzzed.
The seller had forwarded the paralegal a detailed list of all the addresses in the Russian capital where she had been spotted by cameras over the previous month, her lawyers said.
"It was really incredible," said Sarkis Darbinyan, a lawyer for Roskomsvoboda, the group behind the investigation. "We got a report of all her movements in Moscow."
The incident is now under police investigation.
https://twitter.com/AASchapiro/status/1...
There are ads on the 'dark web' offering anyone access to Moscow's network of facial recognition cameras for as little as $200—for stalking, or snooping; no questions asked.
So, Anna Kuznetsova went undercover & bought her own data.
Then she sued.
Reuters: Face for sale - Leaks and lawsuits blight Russia facial recognition
When Anna Kuznetsova saw an ad offering access to Moscow's face recognition cameras, all she had to do was pay 16,000 roubles ($200) and send a photo of the person she wanted spying on.
The 20-year-old - who was acting as a volunteer for a digital rights group investigating leaks in Moscow's pervasive surveillance system - sent over a picture of herself and waited.
Two days later and her phone buzzed.
The seller had forwarded the paralegal a detailed list of all the addresses in the Russian capital where she had been spotted by cameras over the previous month, her lawyers said.
"It was really incredible," said Sarkis Darbinyan, a lawyer for Roskomsvoboda, the group behind the investigation. "We got a report of all her movements in Moscow."
The incident is now under police investigation.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
vostok_1 ::
Bolano.
To bo kmalu tudi pri nas.
To bo kmalu tudi pri nas.
There will be chutes!
It came from the lab.
Like tears in rain. Time to die. v_1 2012-21
It came from the lab.
Like tears in rain. Time to die. v_1 2012-21
Pac-Man ::
Primerno za 5-10 let, dvominutni video.
https://twitter.com/BBCSteveR/status/13...
At my local Moscow supermarket, I just bought this patriotic Russian board game for little kids, featuring nuclear missile silos and declarations that “Our enemies will never beat us!”
https://twitter.com/BBCSteveR/status/13...
At my local Moscow supermarket, I just bought this patriotic Russian board game for little kids, featuring nuclear missile silos and declarations that “Our enemies will never beat us!”
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
Pri OCCRP so prišli do 17 let emailov bivšega putinovega zeta.
Love, Offshores, and Administrative Resources: How Marrying Putin’s Daughter Gave Kirill Shamalov a World of Opportunity
Love, Offshores, and Administrative Resources: How Marrying Putin’s Daughter Gave Kirill Shamalov a World of Opportunity
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
Raziskovalni novinarji so identificirali ekipo FSBjevcev, ki je leta sledila Navalnemu in ima zelo verjetno precej zraven pri zastrupitvi. Vse s pomočjo pobeglih telekomunikacijskih metapodatkov in baz o nakupih letalskih kart.
FSB Team of Chemical Weapon Experts Implicated in Alexey Navalny Novichok Poisoning
Our investigation identified three FSB operatives from this clandestine unit who traveled alongside Navalny to Novosibirsk and then followed him to the city of Tomsk where he was ultimately poisoned. These operatives, two of whom traveled under cover identities, are Alexey Alexandrov (40), Ivan Osipov (44) – both medical doctors – and Vladimir Panyaev (40). These three were supported and supervised by at least five more FSB operatives, some of whom also traveled to Omsk, where Navalny had been hospitalized. Members of the unit communicated with one another throughout the trip, with sudden peaks of communication just before the poisoning as well as during the night-time hours (Moscow time) when Navalny left his hotel and headed to the Tomsk airport.
Kako so prišli do teh podatkov? Na kratko - informacijska varnost v Rusiji precej šepa. Metodologijo predstavijo v ločenem članku
Hunting the Hunters: How We Identified Navalny's FSB Stalkers
How did we find all of this information, and how did we verify the information? We’ll detail our investigative methodologies here, with some discussion on Russian data markets, cross-referencing data to be sure of its veracity, and other topics.
Tole je zunanji članek na mediumu
Hey Russia, your data is leaking!
Turns out that there is a very active “underground” forum where Russian individuals trade databases with each other:
Databases ranging from Traffic police and Government offices to banks, phone companies, and even Cryptocurrencies!
FSB Team of Chemical Weapon Experts Implicated in Alexey Navalny Novichok Poisoning
Our investigation identified three FSB operatives from this clandestine unit who traveled alongside Navalny to Novosibirsk and then followed him to the city of Tomsk where he was ultimately poisoned. These operatives, two of whom traveled under cover identities, are Alexey Alexandrov (40), Ivan Osipov (44) – both medical doctors – and Vladimir Panyaev (40). These three were supported and supervised by at least five more FSB operatives, some of whom also traveled to Omsk, where Navalny had been hospitalized. Members of the unit communicated with one another throughout the trip, with sudden peaks of communication just before the poisoning as well as during the night-time hours (Moscow time) when Navalny left his hotel and headed to the Tomsk airport.
Dr. Alexey Alexandrov, Dr. Ivan Osipov, and Vladimir Panyaev. Source: Passport files
Kako so prišli do teh podatkov? Na kratko - informacijska varnost v Rusiji precej šepa. Metodologijo predstavijo v ločenem članku
Hunting the Hunters: How We Identified Navalny's FSB Stalkers
How did we find all of this information, and how did we verify the information? We’ll detail our investigative methodologies here, with some discussion on Russian data markets, cross-referencing data to be sure of its veracity, and other topics.
Tole je zunanji članek na mediumu
Hey Russia, your data is leaking!
Turns out that there is a very active “underground” forum where Russian individuals trade databases with each other:
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
Iz članka, potencialen trenutek zastrupitve:
As they all sat at the bar, at about 11:15 pm, Navalny ordered a Bloody Mary. The bartender surprised him by saying they didn’t have the necessary ingredients, and offered a Negroni cocktail instead. Navalny accepted the suggestion, but told us he couldn’t take more than one sip as “the cocktail tasted like the most disgusting thing I’ve had in my life”. About 15 minutes later he left the party and headed for his room.
As they all sat at the bar, at about 11:15 pm, Navalny ordered a Bloody Mary. The bartender surprised him by saying they didn’t have the necessary ingredients, and offered a Negroni cocktail instead. Navalny accepted the suggestion, but told us he couldn’t take more than one sip as “the cocktail tasted like the most disgusting thing I’ve had in my life”. About 15 minutes later he left the party and headed for his room.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
mtosev ::
To sem danes vido na cnnu. Se jim ni izšlo, ker je navalny preživel.
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Pac-Man ::
Od vsega sta mi najbolj zanimiva oba članka z metodologijo
Vmes je Navalni objavil svoj 50-minutni video z angleškimi podnapisi
CNN je prispeval svoje, tekst & video:
CNN-Bellingcat investigation identifies Russian specialists who trailed Putin's nemesis Alexey Navalny before he was poisoned
In morda povezano - na letališču kjer so izvedli zasilni pristanek z zastrupljenim so imeli istočasno lažni bombni alarm. Zato so malo dlje krožili v zraku.
The pilot diverted the plane to the nearest airport – Omsk – at about 5:15 am Moscow time, and after a short initial delay due to a fake bomb alert at the airport, the pilot was able to land the plane at 6 am Moscow time.
Hunting the Hunters: How We Identified Navalny's FSB Stalkers
Hey Russia, your data is leaking!
Vmes je Navalni objavil svoj 50-minutni video z angleškimi podnapisi
CNN je prispeval svoje, tekst & video:
CNN-Bellingcat investigation identifies Russian specialists who trailed Putin's nemesis Alexey Navalny before he was poisoned
In morda povezano - na letališču kjer so izvedli zasilni pristanek z zastrupljenim so imeli istočasno lažni bombni alarm. Zato so malo dlje krožili v zraku.
The pilot diverted the plane to the nearest airport – Omsk – at about 5:15 am Moscow time, and after a short initial delay due to a fake bomb alert at the airport, the pilot was able to land the plane at 6 am Moscow time.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
mtosev ::
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Shegevara ::
Jaz sem pa sumil, da sta bla spet ta dva "turista" na delu
P.S. Zakaj vsi ruski agenti zgledajo kot bad guy kriminalci iz home alone filmov
P.S. Zakaj vsi ruski agenti zgledajo kot bad guy kriminalci iz home alone filmov
Pac-Man ::
Ker so?
Tale je imel čez operativno vodenje cele skupine.
Oleg Tayakin, cover name Oleg “Tarasov”, born 6 December 1980
A senior member of the FSB squad, typically coordinating other officers and operating primarily out of the central office on Akademika Vargi. He served at an FSB-affiliated spetsnaz base (military unit 2006 in the southern Russian town of Yessentuki), as well as in the space-force military unit 03523. In 2004 he graduated from the Pirogov Medical Academy in Moscow. He worked as a surgeon before joining the FSB’s Criminalistics Institute.
Clarissa Ward s CNN mu je šla na nenapovedan obisk. Ni bil kaj posebno zgovoren, se pa vidi da živi precej revno. Video, 40 sekund:
https://twitter.com/leonidragozin/statu...
Zgleda je to vse, kar si Putin lahko privošči za tak denar. Kakovost se plača.
Tale je imel čez operativno vodenje cele skupine.
Oleg Tayakin, cover name Oleg “Tarasov”, born 6 December 1980
Clarissa Ward s CNN mu je šla na nenapovedan obisk. Ni bil kaj posebno zgovoren, se pa vidi da živi precej revno. Video, 40 sekund:
https://twitter.com/leonidragozin/statu...
Zgleda je to vse, kar si Putin lahko privošči za tak denar. Kakovost se plača.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Gagatronix ::
Pac-Man ::
Sumljiv vzorec.
https://twitter.com/CarlSchreck/status/...
Remember how @navalny said he took a few sips of a cocktail the night before his poisoning & had to put down because it tasted so bad? Kara-Murza told the FBI that around 12 hrs before his 2017 illness, he had a few spoonfuls of a foul-tasting soup in a Moscow restaurant.
As they all sat at the bar, at about 11:15 pm, Navalny ordered a Bloody Mary. The bartender surprised him by saying they didn’t have the necessary ingredients, and offered a Negroni cocktail instead. Navalny accepted the suggestion, but told us he couldn’t take more than one sip as “the cocktail tasted like the most disgusting thing I’ve had in my life”. About 15 minutes later he left the party and headed for his room.
https://twitter.com/CarlSchreck/status/...
Remember how @navalny said he took a few sips of a cocktail the night before his poisoning & had to put down because it tasted so bad? Kara-Murza told the FBI that around 12 hrs before his 2017 illness, he had a few spoonfuls of a foul-tasting soup in a Moscow restaurant.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Comandante ::
ZDA trese nov incident: "Na lestvici od 1 do 10 je ta dogodek 11"
V nedeljo je odjeknila vest, da so imeli hekerji, ki so domnevno povezani z rusko vlado, mesece na široko odprta vrata do računalniških sistemov več tisoč ameriških podjetij in predvsem najpomembnejših vladnih organizacij. Razkritje operacije je sicer samo vrh ledene gore, saj bo hekerski vdor najverjetneje imel daljnosežne posledice, napovedujejo strokovnjaki za informacijsko varnost.
Ocitno so Rusi vsaj v necem dobri. Tole zna biti zelo neugodno za marsikoga. Seveda Rusi vse zanikajo.
Off topic, ampak moram. Referenca na naslov:
V nedeljo je odjeknila vest, da so imeli hekerji, ki so domnevno povezani z rusko vlado, mesece na široko odprta vrata do računalniških sistemov več tisoč ameriških podjetij in predvsem najpomembnejših vladnih organizacij. Razkritje operacije je sicer samo vrh ledene gore, saj bo hekerski vdor najverjetneje imel daljnosežne posledice, napovedujejo strokovnjaki za informacijsko varnost.
Ocitno so Rusi vsaj v necem dobri. Tole zna biti zelo neugodno za marsikoga. Seveda Rusi vse zanikajo.
Off topic, ampak moram. Referenca na naslov:
mtosev ::
Navalny je imel live interview na amanpour danes, če koga zanima
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avom23 ::
Vse kaže, da se odnosi med Rusijo in ZDA vseeno otopljujejo, četudi se to verjetno ne zdi na prvi pogled. Tudi Navalny naj bi "osebno s posredovanjem Putina" odšel na zdravljenje v Berlin pred časom.
https://www.dw.com/en/putin-says-he-all...
https://www.dw.com/en/putin-says-he-all...
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Pac-Man ::
Članek je z oktobra.
In ne vem kako bi posredoval, saj se v vodstvu Rusije držijo nenapisanega pravila, da se Navalnega ne imenuje.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/...
Over the past two decades, Vladimir Putin has referred to Alexei Navalny as "a poor excuse for a politician" and "a certain political force". He has called him "the character you mentioned" and "this gentleman".
He has never in public called him Navalny.
Jutri bo imel spet redno letno maratonsko tiskovko. Bomo videli, kaj so pripravili.
In ne vem kako bi posredoval, saj se v vodstvu Rusije držijo nenapisanega pravila, da se Navalnega ne imenuje.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/...
Over the past two decades, Vladimir Putin has referred to Alexei Navalny as "a poor excuse for a politician" and "a certain political force". He has called him "the character you mentioned" and "this gentleman".
He has never in public called him Navalny.
Jutri bo imel spet redno letno maratonsko tiskovko. Bomo videli, kaj so pripravili.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
Jutri bo imel spet redno letno maratonsko tiskovko. Bomo videli, kaj so pripravili.
Več ali manj je priznal, da so mu FSB-jevci res sledili, za vse skupaj pa obtožil ameriške obveščevalce.
https://twitter.com/christogrozev/statu...
"About the patient from the Berlin clinic..I know, Peskov told me about these fabrications. We understand what this is. It's not an investigation, it's laundering of US intelligence materials."
I re-listened and the answer is mind-boggling:
Yes these were special service officers. Yes, we know US secret services follow our agents' geolocations. Thus they don't hide their presence. This means the Berlin patient has support from US intel. This means he should be tailed"
"But this doesn't mean he needs to be poisoned. If we wanted to do it we'd do it right-away... ha ha ha. But I let him go"
V tiskovko se javlja preko videopovezave. Pred dnevi so bile na twitterju solidno raziskane govorice, da se od poletja skriva v Sočiju, kjer si je dal zgradit kopijo svoje pisarne.
https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/13...
Proekt claims Putin has been hiding out in Sochi since the summer and pretending he’s in Moscow, going so far as to build an identical second office to confuse people
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
r3dkv1c4 ::
Putin je diktator. Isti kot Erdogan in S.K. Kim.
Zakaj ne spizdiš v Ameriko, tam je demokracija
Dokler bo Putin na oblasti, bo vsaj "demokracija" imela pristrižena krila, ker potem smo ga najebali.
Vsaka stvar ima svojo mejo.
You can ban me, but you can't shut me down!
You can ban me, but you can't shut me down!
Zgodovina sprememb…
- spremenil: r3dkv1c4 ()
Pac-Man ::
Resno misliš, da si ZDA zaradi Putina osebno manj drznejo? In da morajo za to uslugo mednarodni skupnosti trpet ruski davkoplačevalci?
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
12 dni aresta ker sredi mesta (Nižni Novgorod) držiš plakat s QR kodo do YT videa.
https://twitter.com/mediazzzona/status/...
https://twitter.com/mediazzzona/status/...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Gagatronix ::
Glej, ti lahko preglasno ali presmrdece prdnes pred Putinom pa te da zapret. Ni vazno, tiste obtozbe ki jih bos fasal bodo tudi drzale.
Pac-Man ::
Pri Daily Storm so šli uspešno ponavljat vajo in o tem spisali precej temeljit HOWTO.
https://dailystorm.ru/rassledovaniya/na...
Če želite Žirovo telefonsko številko in poznate njegovo polno ime, morate uporabiti storitve sivega trga. To stane 600-800 rubljev, če je oseba naročnik pri Beeline, več kot 800 rubljev pri MTS in 1600-1800 rubljev, če je operater številke MegaFon.
...
Po pridobitvi številke direktorja "Signala" Žirova so morali preiskovalci naročiti njegove prometne podatke. Podatki zadnjega meseca za številko pri Beeline stanejo 3500-4500 rubljev; podobna storitev za druge operaterje je veliko dražja.
...
Po trditvi sogovornika Daily Storm na nizke cene podatkov za številke Beeline vpliva dejstvo, da lahko skoraj vsak zaposleni (za razliko od drugih operaterjev) dostopa do njih, zato je trg s takšnimi ponudbami prenasičen.
...
Da bi pridobili popolne sezname potnikov na letih, so morali stopiti v stik s posredniki. "Seznami potnikov niso ravno tajni. Ljubosumni možje in žene pogosto poskušajo preveriti, s kom letijo zakonci, zato se s temi informacijami trguje levo in desno," je Navalni zapisal na svojem blogu. Postopek pridobivanja traja par dni, stroški takšne storitve na sivem trgu pa znašajo od 15 do 25 tisoč rubljev. Tovrstne naloge opravljajo policisti, ki delajo za posrednike. Ti (policisti - Opomba. Daily Storm) na letalsko družbo vložijo pisno zahtevo, - navaja posrednik Colombo. - Če želite dobiti seznam, morate poznati le številko leta.
...
Bellingcat piše, da sta Frolov in Spiridonov "duhova", lažni identiteti: nimata davčnih številk, zgodovine lastništva vozil, niti registriranih prebivališč. Posrednik Colombo pove, da so se za razjasnitev podatkov preiskovalci verjetno obrnili na njegove kolege, da bi informacije poiskali v ruskem sistemu potnih listov (Rospasport). To storijo policisti, stane 1000-1200 rubljev. Poleg vseh potnih listov lahko "Rospasport" posreduje tudi fotografijo želene osebe. Ta sistem je širši javnosti postal znan jeseni 2018, ko je Bellingcat objavil podatke iz te baze v člankih o Aleksandru Petrovu in Ruslanu Boširovu, ki ju britanske oblasti obtožujejo zastrupitve nekdanjega častnika GRU Sergeja Skripala.
...
Z uporabo Telegram bota Himera, ki išče po sistemu za preverjanje strank Unirate24, je dopisnik Daily Storm našel potrditev Navalnyjeve informacije, da je bil Panyaev že prej registriran na istem naslovu kot politik. Eno iskanje v botu stane 199 rubljev. Sodeč po pridobljeni dokumentaciji je Panyaev tam registriran vsaj od leta 2012. Nismo pa našli potrditve, da je delal kot zdravstveni tehnik v vojaški enoti.
...
Če želite pridobiti najnovejše informacije o letih, morate uporabiti sivo storitev iskanja po sistemu "Search-Magistral" (potovanja državljanov z vlaki in letali). Cena enega iskanja v tem sistemu je 2500-3000 rubljev, opravijo ga policisti. Za ta denar dobite izpis potovanj osebe od leta 2005 do danes. Vse relativno nedavne lete "osumljencev" so preiskovalci verjetno pridobili iz sistema Magistral.
Nato se je Bellingcat odločil, da bo preučil še prejšnja potovanja Aleksandra Aleksandrova (Frolova). (...) Te informacije lahko najdete s pomočjo sistema "Search-Magistral", vendar obstaja tudi brezplačen način: uporaba "pobegle" baze podatkov "RF - letalske karte 2014-2016" (na kratko ji rečejo "Sirena"). Brezplačno jo lahko prenesete z več hekerskih forumov, vendar morate biti registrirani - "naključni" gostje ne bodo videli povezave.
...
S pomočjo Telegram bota Himera nam je uspelo dobiti Osipov (Spiridonov) mobitel, a potrditve, da je nekoč delal kot zdravnik, kot trdi Navalni, nismo našli. Vendar je ta številka v GetContact res zabeležena kot "Ivan Doktor".
https://dailystorm.ru/rassledovaniya/na...
Če želite Žirovo telefonsko številko in poznate njegovo polno ime, morate uporabiti storitve sivega trga. To stane 600-800 rubljev, če je oseba naročnik pri Beeline, več kot 800 rubljev pri MTS in 1600-1800 rubljev, če je operater številke MegaFon.
...
Po pridobitvi številke direktorja "Signala" Žirova so morali preiskovalci naročiti njegove prometne podatke. Podatki zadnjega meseca za številko pri Beeline stanejo 3500-4500 rubljev; podobna storitev za druge operaterje je veliko dražja.
seznam klicev
koordinate und shiz
Po trditvi sogovornika Daily Storm na nizke cene podatkov za številke Beeline vpliva dejstvo, da lahko skoraj vsak zaposleni (za razliko od drugih operaterjev) dostopa do njih, zato je trg s takšnimi ponudbami prenasičen.
...
Da bi pridobili popolne sezname potnikov na letih, so morali stopiti v stik s posredniki. "Seznami potnikov niso ravno tajni. Ljubosumni možje in žene pogosto poskušajo preveriti, s kom letijo zakonci, zato se s temi informacijami trguje levo in desno," je Navalni zapisal na svojem blogu. Postopek pridobivanja traja par dni, stroški takšne storitve na sivem trgu pa znašajo od 15 do 25 tisoč rubljev. Tovrstne naloge opravljajo policisti, ki delajo za posrednike. Ti (policisti - Opomba. Daily Storm) na letalsko družbo vložijo pisno zahtevo, - navaja posrednik Colombo. - Če želite dobiti seznam, morate poznati le številko leta.
Bellingcat piše, da sta Frolov in Spiridonov "duhova", lažni identiteti: nimata davčnih številk, zgodovine lastništva vozil, niti registriranih prebivališč. Posrednik Colombo pove, da so se za razjasnitev podatkov preiskovalci verjetno obrnili na njegove kolege, da bi informacije poiskali v ruskem sistemu potnih listov (Rospasport). To storijo policisti, stane 1000-1200 rubljev. Poleg vseh potnih listov lahko "Rospasport" posreduje tudi fotografijo želene osebe. Ta sistem je širši javnosti postal znan jeseni 2018, ko je Bellingcat objavil podatke iz te baze v člankih o Aleksandru Petrovu in Ruslanu Boširovu, ki ju britanske oblasti obtožujejo zastrupitve nekdanjega častnika GRU Sergeja Skripala.
...
Z uporabo Telegram bota Himera, ki išče po sistemu za preverjanje strank Unirate24, je dopisnik Daily Storm našel potrditev Navalnyjeve informacije, da je bil Panyaev že prej registriran na istem naslovu kot politik. Eno iskanje v botu stane 199 rubljev. Sodeč po pridobljeni dokumentaciji je Panyaev tam registriran vsaj od leta 2012. Nismo pa našli potrditve, da je delal kot zdravstveni tehnik v vojaški enoti.
Če želite pridobiti najnovejše informacije o letih, morate uporabiti sivo storitev iskanja po sistemu "Search-Magistral" (potovanja državljanov z vlaki in letali). Cena enega iskanja v tem sistemu je 2500-3000 rubljev, opravijo ga policisti. Za ta denar dobite izpis potovanj osebe od leta 2005 do danes. Vse relativno nedavne lete "osumljencev" so preiskovalci verjetno pridobili iz sistema Magistral.
Nato se je Bellingcat odločil, da bo preučil še prejšnja potovanja Aleksandra Aleksandrova (Frolova). (...) Te informacije lahko najdete s pomočjo sistema "Search-Magistral", vendar obstaja tudi brezplačen način: uporaba "pobegle" baze podatkov "RF - letalske karte 2014-2016" (na kratko ji rečejo "Sirena"). Brezplačno jo lahko prenesete z več hekerskih forumov, vendar morate biti registrirani - "naključni" gostje ne bodo videli povezave.
...
S pomočjo Telegram bota Himera nam je uspelo dobiti Osipov (Spiridonov) mobitel, a potrditve, da je nekoč delal kot zdravnik, kot trdi Navalni, nismo našli. Vendar je ta številka v GetContact res zabeležena kot "Ivan Doktor".
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
avom23 ::
Članek je z oktobra.
In ne vem kako bi posredoval, saj se v vodstvu Rusije držijo nenapisanega pravila, da se Navalnega ne imenuje.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/...
Over the past two decades, Vladimir Putin has referred to Alexei Navalny as "a poor excuse for a politician" and "a certain political force". He has called him "the character you mentioned" and "this gentleman".
He has never in public called him Navalny.
Jutri bo imel spet redno letno maratonsko tiskovko. Bomo videli, kaj so pripravili.
Ali se je izvedelo kaj novega, za poznavalce, ki bolj redno spremljajo te azdeve?
Mimogred sem poslušal kakšen izsek iz tiskovke in zdi se, da je neomajen in da ne odstopa od vzpostavitve a primata na območje nekdanje Sovjetske zveze in ponavlja, da je NATO dal ustno obljubo, da se od Vzhodne Nemčije ne bo širil dalje napram Rusiji proti vzhodu.
Pac-Man ::
NATO dal ustno obljubo, da se od Vzhodne Nemčije ne bo širil dalje napram Rusiji proti vzhodu.
Milijonkrat preigrano.
Ustna obljuba.
Dana SZ in varšavskemu paktu, ki ne obstajata več.
Nadomestile so ju suverene države, ki se lahko prosto povezujejo v druga zavezništva.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
Nadaljevanje zgodbe - Navalni je poklical enega od pospravljačev, se predstavil za Patruševega pomočnika (bivši direktor FSB, zdaj predsednik varnostnega sveta), ta pa mu je mirno vse priznal.
nit:
https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status...
In a bizarre twist in the Navalny FSB assassination case, Navalny managed to trick one of the FSB officers involved into providing details of the assassination attempt by phone, all caught on camera.
The FSB officer involved in the post-operation clean up provided details of the attempt in a 45+ minute call with Navalny, including details of where the poison was placed - Navalny's underpants.
The FSB officer also provided Navalny, who he believed to be the assistant of a senior government figure, with the reason why he thought the plot failed. 
Dolg članek s prepisom pogovora v Angleščini:
"If it Hadn't Been for the Prompt Work of the Medics": FSB Officer Inadvertently Confesses Murder Plot to Navalny
Klic na videu, zaenkrat še brez prevoda, okrog 11. in 12. minute pa delajo zgovorne face, ko ga Navalni prosi za oceno sodelavcev:
nit:
https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status...
In a bizarre twist in the Navalny FSB assassination case, Navalny managed to trick one of the FSB officers involved into providing details of the assassination attempt by phone, all caught on camera.
The FSB officer involved in the post-operation clean up provided details of the attempt in a 45+ minute call with Navalny, including details of where the poison was placed - Navalny's underpants.
Dolg članek s prepisom pogovora v Angleščini:
"If it Hadn't Been for the Prompt Work of the Medics": FSB Officer Inadvertently Confesses Murder Plot to Navalny
Klic na videu, zaenkrat še brez prevoda, okrog 11. in 12. minute pa delajo zgovorne face, ko ga Navalni prosi za oceno sodelavcev:
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
Osebje iz bolnišnice Charite je v The Lancet objavilo članek o zastrupitvi z novičokom. Verjetno vemo čigavi.
Zadeva je na Sci-Hub ampak dajem posreden link, ker ne vem koliko se to smatra za travnik.
https://twitter.com/christogrozev/statu...
Zadeva je na Sci-Hub ampak dajem posreden link, ker ne vem koliko se to smatra za travnik.
https://twitter.com/christogrozev/statu...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Zgodovina sprememb…
- spremenilo: Pac-Man ()
Pac-Man ::
Dve 45-minutni predavanji kjer na primeru Skripalov razloži, kako so prišli do operativcev. Je s poletja 2019, tako da je kaka informacija že depricirana. Trenutno se spomnim tiste o Yandexu in prepoznavi obrazov.
#CIJSummer 2019. Open Source: The Skripal Poisoning Investigation - Christo Grozev
#CIJSummer 2019. Open Source: The GRU Globetrotters, Tracking Clandestine International Operations
#CIJSummer 2019. Open Source: The Skripal Poisoning Investigation - Christo Grozev
#CIJSummer 2019. Open Source: The GRU Globetrotters, Tracking Clandestine International Operations
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
avom23 ::
Kar se tiče ruske politike ter Putina, mene vse v zvezi z Rusijo zelo zanima, tako, da bom v kratkem nekaj časa namenil njej in se malo bolj resno pozanimal o tej državi. Zaenkrat na žalost nič kaj pametnega ne bi znal reči.
Takole napamet se mi zdi, da Rusija pod Putinovo taktirko stremi k temu, da bi postala ena od tistih nekaj najvplivnejših držav na svetovnem političnem odru. In Putinu zaenkrat uspeva, sam se spomnim, da sem pred petimi in več leti nazaj bral članke kopice naših "strokovnjakov", ki so brez trohice dvoma zatrjevali, da so Putinovemu režimu šteti tedni ali meseci "pa če on to sprejme ali ne" in da o tem sploh ni dvoma.
Prav tako je npr. establišment v en glas nedolgo časa nazaj zatrjeval, da Bašar al Asad odhaja, pa zaenkrat nič ne kaže, da je temu tako.
Tudi tvoji zapisi Pac-Man na to temo mislim, da mi bodo prav prišli.
Takole napamet se mi zdi, da Rusija pod Putinovo taktirko stremi k temu, da bi postala ena od tistih nekaj najvplivnejših držav na svetovnem političnem odru. In Putinu zaenkrat uspeva, sam se spomnim, da sem pred petimi in več leti nazaj bral članke kopice naših "strokovnjakov", ki so brez trohice dvoma zatrjevali, da so Putinovemu režimu šteti tedni ali meseci "pa če on to sprejme ali ne" in da o tem sploh ni dvoma.
Prav tako je npr. establišment v en glas nedolgo časa nazaj zatrjeval, da Bašar al Asad odhaja, pa zaenkrat nič ne kaže, da je temu tako.
Tudi tvoji zapisi Pac-Man na to temo mislim, da mi bodo prav prišli.
avom23 ::
Sam osebno nisem oboževalec Johna Mccaina, a se mi zdi, da si včasih za razliko od večine drugih politikov od njega lahko slišal kaj uporabnega. Ne vem, če je imel prav, a on je trdil, da Putin namerava obnoviti ruski imperij.
Pac-Man ::
Danes so vse znane poti FSB-jevcev dali v crowdsourcing.
https://twitter.com/christogrozev/statu...
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/...
Imajo že prva pinga. Dva sta bila prisotna v bližini sumljive smrti novinarja/aktivista za človekove pravice.
https://twitter.com/FactCheckers_/statu...
Timur Kushaev (Куашев, Тимур Хамбиевич) was found dead on 31.07.2014 with “possible poison marks” in Nalchik.
Osipov travelled from Mineralnye Vody on 1.08.2014
And Alexandrov from Vladikavkaz on 2.08.2014
https://www.article19.org/resources/nor...
North Caucasus journalist, Timur Kushaev was found dead today. According to DOSH magazine his body was found by officers from the ministry for Emergency Situations of Kabrdino Balkaria in a forest close to a road in the Hasanya district near Nalchik. There were no obvious signs of violence, beatings or wounds on his body.
“We think that Timur was taken away in the evening from home as he was found in clothes he only wears at home. He also left his mobile phone at home, something he would rarely do” said DOSH magazine on their Facebook page.
gtranslate:
https://www.kavkaz-uzel.eu/articles/247...
As the previously reported "Caucasian Knot" , Timur Kuashev disappeared on the evening of July 31 . The journalist's body was found on August 1 in a suburb of Nalchik , his relatives identified him . The forensic examination initially showed no signs of a violent death, and the relatives agreed to an autopsy .
...
"We can not yet say with complete certainty whether it was really a murder. The traces from the injection in the armpit were indeed found. There was a small bruise under the eye, there are no more injuries," Ustov quoted ITAR-TASS as saying.
Timur Kuashev @ Wikipedia
Ista dva, tokrat prisotna ob (nekoliko manj?) sumljivi smrti politika. Zdravstvene težave bi bile lahko tudi neuspešen poskus zastrupitve.
https://twitter.com/tv_tt/status/134463...
On October 31, 45-year-old ex-deputy of the Volgograd City Duma Andrei Osipov died of a heart attack
Osipov
October 29, 2013 Moscow-Volgograd
November 5 2013 Volgograd-Moscow
Alexandrov
November 5 2013 Volgograd-Moscow
gtranslate:
https://v1.ru/text/gorod/2013/11/01/569...
Last night in the Traktorozavodsky district of Volgograd, ex-deputy of the Volgograd City Duma Andrei Osipov died of a heart attack.
As V1.ru was informed in the press service of the City Duma, on Thursday evening, October 31, the people's choice played football with his comrades on one of the sports grounds. During the game, he felt unwell and went home to rest.
At home, he had a heart attack, as a result of which 44-year-old Andrei Osipov died.
We will remind, earlier, Mr. Osipov had health problems. At one of the Duma meetings, an ambulance came for him.
https://twitter.com/christogrozev/statu...
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/...
Imajo že prva pinga. Dva sta bila prisotna v bližini sumljive smrti novinarja/aktivista za človekove pravice.
https://twitter.com/FactCheckers_/statu...
Timur Kushaev (Куашев, Тимур Хамбиевич) was found dead on 31.07.2014 with “possible poison marks” in Nalchik.
Osipov travelled from Mineralnye Vody on 1.08.2014
And Alexandrov from Vladikavkaz on 2.08.2014
https://www.article19.org/resources/nor...
North Caucasus journalist, Timur Kushaev was found dead today. According to DOSH magazine his body was found by officers from the ministry for Emergency Situations of Kabrdino Balkaria in a forest close to a road in the Hasanya district near Nalchik. There were no obvious signs of violence, beatings or wounds on his body.
“We think that Timur was taken away in the evening from home as he was found in clothes he only wears at home. He also left his mobile phone at home, something he would rarely do” said DOSH magazine on their Facebook page.
gtranslate:
https://www.kavkaz-uzel.eu/articles/247...
As the previously reported "Caucasian Knot" , Timur Kuashev disappeared on the evening of July 31 . The journalist's body was found on August 1 in a suburb of Nalchik , his relatives identified him . The forensic examination initially showed no signs of a violent death, and the relatives agreed to an autopsy .
...
"We can not yet say with complete certainty whether it was really a murder. The traces from the injection in the armpit were indeed found. There was a small bruise under the eye, there are no more injuries," Ustov quoted ITAR-TASS as saying.
Timur Kuashev @ Wikipedia
Ista dva, tokrat prisotna ob (nekoliko manj?) sumljivi smrti politika. Zdravstvene težave bi bile lahko tudi neuspešen poskus zastrupitve.
https://twitter.com/tv_tt/status/134463...
On October 31, 45-year-old ex-deputy of the Volgograd City Duma Andrei Osipov died of a heart attack
Osipov
October 29, 2013 Moscow-Volgograd
November 5 2013 Volgograd-Moscow
Alexandrov
November 5 2013 Volgograd-Moscow
gtranslate:
https://v1.ru/text/gorod/2013/11/01/569...
Last night in the Traktorozavodsky district of Volgograd, ex-deputy of the Volgograd City Duma Andrei Osipov died of a heart attack.
As V1.ru was informed in the press service of the City Duma, on Thursday evening, October 31, the people's choice played football with his comrades on one of the sports grounds. During the game, he felt unwell and went home to rest.
At home, he had a heart attack, as a result of which 44-year-old Andrei Osipov died.
We will remind, earlier, Mr. Osipov had health problems. At one of the Duma meetings, an ambulance came for him.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Zgodovina sprememb…
- spremenilo: Pac-Man ()
Poldi112 ::
NATO dal ustno obljubo, da se od Vzhodne Nemčije ne bo širil dalje napram Rusiji proti vzhodu.
Milijonkrat preigrano.
Ustna obljuba.
Dana SZ in varšavskemu paktu, ki ne obstajata več.
Nadomestile so ju suverene države, ki se lahko prosto povezujejo v druga zavezništva.
Če živiš v pravljičnem svetu zahodne propagande morda res, v realnosti pa imaš ruse v Ukrajini točno zato, ker se je NATO razširil preveč na vzhod.
Obljuba je pa obljuba. Razen, če zagovarjaš dejstvo, da beseda zahoda ni vredna nič.
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Pac-Man ::
OK, dajmo plastično.
Predstavljaj si situacijo, kjer želi Avstrija v NATO in to zmoti Jugoslavijo. ZDA ji obljubijo, da se NATO ne bo širil naprej, to odpravi pomisleke, Avstrija je v natu.
Čez par let juga razpade, nadomestijo jo neodvisne & suverene države, več le-teh si želi v NATO.
To zmoti Srbijo, ki na plan potegne častno taborniško Jugoslaviji. Bi jih upošteval? Kaj pomaga neodvisnost & suverenost, če se ti brez vprašanja v zadeve vtika soseda?
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
gozdar1 ::
NATO dal ustno obljubo, da se od Vzhodne Nemčije ne bo širil dalje napram Rusiji proti vzhodu.
Milijonkrat preigrano.
Ustna obljuba.
Dana SZ in varšavskemu paktu, ki ne obstajata več.
Nadomestile so ju suverene države, ki se lahko prosto povezujejo v druga zavezništva.
Če živiš v pravljičnem svetu zahodne propagande morda res, v realnosti pa imaš ruse v Ukrajini točno zato, ker se je NATO razširil preveč na vzhod.
Obljuba je pa obljuba. Razen, če zagovarjaš dejstvo, da beseda zahoda ni vredna nič.
V bistvu sio rusi v ukrajini dokaz , da ruski podpis ne velja nič.
Poldi112 ::
OK, dajmo plastično.
Predstavljaj si situacijo, kjer želi Avstrija v NATO in to zmoti Jugoslavijo. ZDA ji obljubijo, da se NATO ne bo širil naprej, to odpravi pomisleke, Avstrija je v natu.
Čez par let juga razpade, nadomestijo jo neodvisne & suverene države, več le-teh si želi v NATO.
To zmoti Srbijo, ki na plan potegne častno taborniško Jugoslaviji. Bi jih upošteval? Kaj pomaga neodvisnost & suverenost, če se ti brez vprašanja v zadeve vtika soseda?
Predstavljaj si situacijo, da rusi ali kitajci na Kubi namestijo svoje jedrske rakete.
Zakaj misliš, da je za ruse situacija drugačna? Ter zakaj zagovarjaš nato? Res misliš, da potrebujemozaščito pred rusi, zdaj ko je varšavski pakt zgodovina?
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
D3m ::
Vbistvu sio rusi v ukrajini dokaz , da ruski podpis ne velja nič.
Sem že enkrat napisal, da ne znate brati podpisanih dogovorov.
Rusi niso krivi podpisa, krivi so kontra reakcije.
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gozdar1 ::
Vbistvu sio rusi v ukrajini dokaz , da ruski podpis ne velja nič.
Sem že enkrat napisal, da ne znate brati podpisanih dogovorov.
Rusi niso krivi podpisa, krivi so kontra reakcije.
Ukrajina se je na račun tega odpovedala jedrskemu orožju. Rusi se seveda sedaj izgovarjajo , da to ni del sporazuma.
POleg tega ukrajina ni v natu, eu pa upam da ne predstavlja varnostne grožnje rusiji.
D3m ::
Prva krivda in kršenje dogovora je bilo vmešavanje EU + USA v Ukrajinske volitve ostalo je sledilo potem.
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Zgodovina sprememb…
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gozdar1 ::
Pac-Man ::
Predstavljaj si situacijo, da rusi ali kitajci na Kubi namestijo svoje jedrske rakete.
Alternativa bi bila, da Kuba ali kaka druga severno/srednjeameriška država poskusi vstopit v varnostno zavezništvo s Kitajsko ali Rusijo. Lahko bi se mu reklo Karakaški pakt.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.