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Pac-Man ::

Družba, konec je. Sondland bo predsednika vrgel pod bus, kamor spada.

https://twitter.com/JohnBerman/status/1...

BREAKING: @CNN has obtained Amb. Sondland's opening statement.

He points his finger directly at the President.

"At the express direction of the President of the United States... "
"I followed the directions of the President...."
"Based on the President’s direction..."


https://twitter.com/dnvolz/status/11971...

SONDLAND confirms his July 26 restaurant call w/ Trump and says: "I would have been more surprised if President Trump had not mentioned investigations, particularly given what we were hearing from Giuliani about the president's concerns."

Sondland will say today: "Mr. Giuliani’s requests were a quid pro quo for arranging a White House visit for President Zelensky. Mr. Giuliani demanded that Ukraine make a public statement announcing investigations of the 2016 election/DNC server and Burisma."

Sondland: "Secretary Perry, Ambassador Volker and I worked with Mr. Rudy Giuliani on Ukraine matters at the express direction of the President of the United States. We did not want to work with Mr. Giuliani."


Pričanje v živo:

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Pac-Man ::

Zdaj bo prebral izjavo pod prisego.

Ko/če se to zgodi, bo začetek konca.
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Pac-Man ::

Trenutno rešuje svojo rit in namaka state department, ki mu je blokiral dostop do zapiskov.

Ekola, začelo se je.

"Secretary Perry, Ambassador Volker and I worked with Mr. Rudy Giuliani on Ukraine matters at the express direction of the President of the United States. We did not want to work with Mr. Giuliani."
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the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
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jype ::

Pozabil si, da lahko Trump ustreli kogarkoli, pa se mu ne bo nič zgodilo.

Pac-Man ::

Namaka celo administracijo. State department, NSC in belo hišo.

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Po današnjem dnevu bo ta teorija postavljena na test.
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Pac-Man ::

Tole danes je bomba, ko imate čas si zavrtite posnetek njegove začetne izjave zgoraj. Sondland se je odločil, da se ne bo potopil z administracijo.

tudi:

https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/1...
This is the other reason impeachment is moving too quickly.
It's outpacing the gas side of the grift (which is what I suspect volker is hiding).
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Sp3m ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Tole danes je bomba, ko imate čas si zavrtite posnetek njegove začetne izjave zgoraj. Sondland se je odločil, da se ne bo potopil z administracijo.


Koliko republikancev bo glasovalo za impeachment oz. koliko republikancev je spremenilo mišljenje zaradi teh zaslišanj?

jype ::

Sp3m je izjavil:

Koliko republikancev bo glasovalo za impeachment
Ni pomembno, ker imajo demokrati večino.

Sp3m ::

jype je izjavil:

Sp3m je izjavil:

Koliko republikancev bo glasovalo za impeachment
Ni pomembno, ker imajo demokrati večino.


V senatu?

Kar je edino pomembno za odpoklic predsednika.

Za house vemo, da bodo glasovali za impechment od prvega dne naprej, ker so že od prvega dne črte narisane po partijski liniji!

jype ::

Sp3m je izjavil:

V senatu?
V senatu ne poteka "impeachment", ampak "trial".

Sp3m je izjavil:

Kar je edino pomembno za odpoklic predsednika.
Odpoklic ni "impeachment", odpoklic je "removal". Če ga Senat na podlagi dejstev, podanih v "articles of impeachment" spozna za nedolžnega, potem mu seveda ni treba oditi.

Impičan bo, brez skrbi. Odstranjen upajmo da ne, ker le tako lahko dosežemo, da republikanci nikoli več ne bodo na oblasti.

Sp3m ::

jype je izjavil:

Sp3m je izjavil:

V senatu?
V senatu ne poteka "impeachment", ampak "trial".

Sp3m je izjavil:

Kar je edino pomembno za odpoklic predsednika.
Odpoklic ni "impeachment", odpoklic je "removal". Če ga Senat na podlagi dejstev, podanih v "articles of impeachment" spozna za nedolžnega, potem mu seveda ni treba oditi.


Da in točno tako se bo zgodilo vse skupaj, problem, ki ga bodo imeli demokrati pa je, da sedaj so v prednosti demokrati s Schiffom na čelu, ker vodijo House, v Senatu je zadeva malce drugačna, ker ga vodijo republikanci, ki bodo poklicali med drugim tudi Hunter Bidena.

jype je izjavil:


Impičan bo, brez skrbi. Odstranjen upajmo da ne, ker le tako lahko dosežemo, da republikanci nikoli več ne bodo na oblasti.


Da bo impičan se je vedelo takoj, ko se je začel postopek, ker imajo demokrati večino in bodo dali glasove glede na partijsko pripadnost.

Da pa republikanci ne bodo več na oblasti boste pa prvo morali pokazati boljše kandidate, kot so Sleepy Joe, Pochahontas Warren ali Crazy Bernie!

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Pac-Man ::

It's Like Christmas In July, ampak novembra.


V nepovezanih novicah je malenkost nasedla še Nikki, ker je uporabljala nezavarovane metode komunikacije za deljenje informacij z oznako tajnosti. Nekoč je bilo republikancem to nekaj blazno groznega.

https://twitter.com/KimZetter/status/11...
Newly released emails suggest in 2017 Nikki Haley, as ambassador to UN, lost her password for classified communication and resorted to using Blackberry 10 smartphone to send “confidential” info. “Can’t find my password for the high side,” she told aides.

Nikki Haley Used System for Unclassified Material to Send ‘Confidential’ Information
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
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fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Loocas ::

Sondland bo moral predstavit preklete dobre in konkretne dokaze o tem kar govori, saj Ukrajinci niso vedeli nič o tem, da je vojaška pomoč pogojevana s čimerkoli ali da je zaustavljena.

Ukrajinski zunanji minister je za Reuers pred tednom jasno povedal, da ni dobil nič od Sondlanda.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-...

Pacman, ti bi moral bolj gledat une na drugi strani, ker zadeva tam je popolnoma drugačna, kar ti postaš tukaj kot na primer:
https://twitter.com/RepAndyBiggsAZ/stat...
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Loocas ::

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status...

The President just walked up to the WH press with his handwritten notes from the call with Amb. Sondland:

"I want nothing.
I want nothing.
I want no quid-pro-quo.
Tell [Ukraine] to do the right thing."

Bye bye Sondland...
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Loocas ::

Kako interesantno je, ko vidiš kako lažnivci funkcionirajo.

Za otvoritveni govor se je pripravil, ko je pa prišlo navskrižno zaslišanja, se je pa vse sesulo.

https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/...
Amb. Sondland testifies President Trump never told him directly aid was conditioned on meetings.

Potrata časa.
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Pac-Man ::

Loocas je izjavil:



En problem - Donald Trump je daleč od legitimne priče.

Veracity of statements by Donald Trump @ Wikipedia
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Loocas ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Loocas je izjavil:



En problem - Donald Trump je daleč od legitimne priče.

Veracity of statements by Donald Trump @ Wikipedia


Donald Trump je predsednik ZDA. Sondland je pa nekdo, ki so ga Demokrati posneli, kako kavsa ljubico in ga sedaj izsiljujejo.

Sondland mora predstavit KONKRETNE dokaze o tem, kar govori. Ker če Ukrajinci niso vedeli, da se jih izsiljujje za karkoli, v transkriptu pogovora med Trumpom in Sondlandom tudi piše, da Trump nič ne zahteva, potem Sondland lahko samo laže.
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Pac-Man ::

Jih je. So maili.

In SMS-i.

https://www.voanews.com/text-messages-b...

Thursday, July 25, 2019
8:36:45 AM

Volker: Good lunch - thanks. Heard from White House-assuming President Z convinces trump he will investigate / "get to the bottom of what happened" in 2016, we will nail down date for visit to Washington. Good luck! See you tomorrow- kurt



Friday, August 9, 2019
5:35:53 PM

Sondland: Morrison ready to get dates as soon as Yermak confirms.

Volker: Excellent!! How did you sway him?:)

Sondland: Not sure i did. I think potus really wants the deliverable

Volker: But does he know that?

Sondland: Yep

Clearly lots of convos going on

Volker: Ok-then that's good it's coming from two separate sources

Sondland: To avoid misundestandings, might be helpful to ask Andrey for a draft statememt ( embargoed) so that we can see exactly what they propose to cover. Even though Ze does a live presser they can still summarize in a brief statement. Thoughts?

Volker: Agree!



Friday, August 9, 2019
11:27:00 AM

Volker: Hi Mr Mayor! Had a good chat with Yermak last night. He was pleased with your phone call. Mentioned Z making a statement. Can we all get on the phone to make sure I advise Z correctly as to what he should be saying? Want to make sure we get this done right. Thanks!

Sondland: Good idea Kurt. I am on Pacific time.

Giuliani: Yes can you call now going to Fundraiser at 12:30



Saturday, August 10, 2019
4:56:15 PM

Yermak: Hi Kurt. Please let me know when you can talk. I think it's possible to make this declaration and mention all these things. Which we discussed yesterday. But it will be logic to do after we receive a confirmation of date. We inform about date of visit and about our expectations and our guarantees for future visit. Let discuss it

Volker: Ok! It's late for you-why don't we talk in my morning, your afternoon tomorrow? Say 10am/5pm?

I agree with your approach. Let's iron out statement and use that to get date and then Prez can go forward with it?

Yermak: Ok

Volker: Great. Gordon is available to join as well

Yermak: Excellent

Once we have a date, will call for a press briefing, announcing upcoming visit and outlining vision for the reboot of US­-UKRAINE relationship, including among other things Burisma and election meddling in investigations

Volker: Sounds great!


Sunday, September 1, 2019
12:08:57 PM

Taylor: Are we now saying that security assistance and WH meeting are conditioned on investigations?

Sondland: Call me


Sunday, September 8, 2019
11:20:32 AM

Sondland: Guys multiple convos with Ze, Potus. Lets talk

Taylor: Now is fine with me

Volker: Try again-could not hear

Taylor: Gordon and I just spoke. I can brief you if you and Gordon don't connect

The nightmare is they give the interview and don't get the security assistance. The Russians love it. (And I quit.)
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the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Loocas ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Jih je. So maili.


To žal niso konkretni dokazi, da je Trump karkoli ukazal Sondlandu.
Sondland je jasno povedal (imaš gor linka), da mu tega Trump ni ukazal (govori o tem, da si je tako mislil).
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Pac-Man ::

Tole je stupid, ne retarded Watergate. :D
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Loocas ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Tole je stupid, ne retarded Watergate. :D


Za tole Ukrajino zgleda na prvi, drugi in deseti pogled ravno tako, kot da si je to sam Trump izbral za "impichment process".

Čisto slučajno ravno po kolapsu ruske zgodbe pride do tega telefonskega pogovora, do kao "quid pro quo" zahteve, Trump se je zavaroval, Demokrati so skočili na tole ko žejen na steklenico vode in točno se ve kako se bo zadeva nadaljevala. Če bo prišlo dejansko do impičmenta, potem imajo Republikanci proste roke v Senatu, da kličejo za priče kogarkoli. Tudi samega Schiffa, pa Hunterja Bidena. In kako bo potem zgledalo, ko bomo gledali po TVju, kako je Hunter Biden za sedenje v nadzornem svetu dobil 83k USD na mesec (skupaj preko 3M USD), pa ni znal ne ukrajinsko, ni imel niti pojma za kaj se gre, njegov oči mu je zrihtal službo. In Biden, kot edini normalni izvoljivi demokratski kandidat je zaključil.

https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/...

Sondland: "No one in the Trump Admin told me there was a quid pro quo for aid, I just presumed it."
Wallace on FoxNews: "Sondland just destroyed the entire Trump Admin on quid pro quo!"
Seriously, WTF?

Kr neki ti novinarji polni biasa, levo desno, to je prav za bruhat.
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zmaugy ::

"Echoing President Trump's departure comments, White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham reiterated in a statement that Trump "clearly stated that he 'wanted nothing' from Ukraine and repeated 'no quid pro quo over and over again.'""

Ah, Trump zanika, potem pa že ni res. Trump se pa že nikoli ne bi zlagal...>:D
Biseri...

Loocas ::

e baš danes... :D

Ukrainian Indictment Claims $7.4 Billion Obama-Linked Laundering, Puts Biden Group Take At $16.5 Million
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/...

An indictment drawn up by Ukraine's Office of the Prosecutor General against Burisma owner Nikolai Zlochevsky claims that Hunter Biden and his partners received $16.5 million for their 'services' - according to Ukrainian MP Alexander Dubinsky of the ruling Servant of the People Party.
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Pac-Man ::

zmaugy je izjavil:

"Echoing President Trump's departure comments, White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham reiterated in a statement that Trump "clearly stated that he 'wanted nothing' from Ukraine and repeated 'no quid pro quo over and over again.'""


Stephanie je izpustila, da se je ta komunikacija zgodila 9. septembra.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-quot...

President Trump quoted a portion of the testimony of EU Ambassador Sondland as he departed the White House Wednesday: "I want nothing. I want nothing," Mr. Trump read to reporters outside the White House. "I want no quid pro quo. Tell Zelensky — President Zelensky to do the right thing."

The section referred to a September 9 conversation that Sondland depicted as "very short and abrupt."



Prijava žvižgača se je zgodila sredi avgusta, bela hiša je zanjo vedela konec meseca.

Cel diplomatski aparat + Giuliani v tvojem imenu kriminali več mesecev, nato ugotoviš, da so ti na sledi in par osornih besed po telefonu konča vse skupaj. Lepe sanje.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Loocas ::

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Cel diplomatski aparat + Giuliani v tvojem imenu kriminali več mesecev, nato ugotoviš, da so ti na sledi in par osornih besed po telefonu konča vse skupaj. Lepe sanje.


Sondland je danes čisto jasno povedal, da mu Trump tega ni ukazal, ampak je to predvideval. Kaj ti tukaj ni jasno?
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Pac-Man ::

Si kdaj slišal za delegiranje nalog?
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fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Loocas ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Si kdaj slišal za delegiranje nalog?


https://slo-tech.com/forum/t747273/p651...

He points his finger directly at the President.
"At the express direction of the President of the United States... "
"I followed the directions of the President...."
"Based on the Presidents direction..."
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zmaugy ::

Loocas je izjavil:

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Cel diplomatski aparat + Giuliani v tvojem imenu kriminali več mesecev, nato ugotoviš, da so ti na sledi in par osornih besed po telefonu konča vse skupaj. Lepe sanje.


Sondland je danes čisto jasno povedal, da mu Trump tega ni ukazal, ampak je to predvideval. Kaj ti tukaj ni jasno?


Kriminalne združbe velikokrat funkcionirajo na ta način.
Biseri...

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dice7 ::

Loocas je izjavil:

e baš danes... :D

Ukrainian Indictment Claims $7.4 Billion Obama-Linked Laundering, Puts Biden Group Take At $16.5 Million
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/...

An indictment drawn up by Ukraine's Office of the Prosecutor General against Burisma owner Nikolai Zlochevsky claims that Hunter Biden and his partners received $16.5 million for their 'services' - according to Ukrainian MP Alexander Dubinsky of the ruling Servant of the People Party.
Dober timing si je Putin izbral, da vas zamoti pred aktualnim dogajanjem

Pac-Man ::

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Trump je Sondlandu naročil, da je njegov point man za Ukrajino Giuliani. Kaj je tu čudnega?
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
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fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Loocas ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Loocas je izjavil:


Trump je Sondlandu naročil, da je njegov point man za Ukrajino Giuliani. Kaj je tu čudnega?


Če se spravljaš na predsednika najmočnejše države, pa valjda moraš imeti kakšne konktretne dokaze. Vse kar smo poslušali, je samo rekla kazala.

Schiff je na začetku procesa po TV govoril, da se bo whistleblower pokazal v kongresu. Zdaj ga pa skrivajo, ker se točno ve, da je registriran Demokrat. Ves proces je ena tragikomedija nesposobnežev na strani Demokratov.

še bolj jasno in glasno:
https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status...

Q: "If your answer is yes, then [Adam Schiff] is wrong and the headline on CNN is wrong. No one on this planet told you that President Trump was tying aid to investigations, yes or no?"

SONDLAND: "Yes."

A ti misliš, da je Giuliani iz drugega planeta?
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Pac-Man ::

Sondland je pričal, da je Trump s preiskavo pogojeval obisk v beli hiši.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

dice7 ::

Loocas je izjavil:

Če se spravljaš na predsednika najmočnejše države, pa valjda moraš imeti kakšne konktretne dokaze. Vse kar smo poslušali, je samo rekla kazala.

Schiff je na začetku procesa po TV govoril, da se bo whistleblower pokazal v kongresu. Zdaj ga pa skrivajo, ker se točno ve, da je registriran Demokrat.

Tezko, kadar ti predsednik najmocnejse drzave na svetu grozi s smrtjo

Loocas ::

najboljši twitt :)):
https://twitter.com/prayingmedic/status...

dice7 je izjavil:

Tezko, kadar ti predsednik najmocnejse drzave na svetu grozi s smrtjo


To je približno tako, kot da bi se šel tak proces Janez Janša proti Šarcu in bi za whistleblowerja "našel" Toneta Krkoviča. In bi vsi vedeli kdo to je. Riti bi se nam smejale. To je to, kar zdaj gledamo v ZDA.
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Pac-Man ::

Loocas je izjavil:

To je približno tako, kot da bi se šel tak proces Janez Janša proti Šarcu in bi za whistleblowerja "našel" Toneta Krkoviča. In bi vsi vedeli kdo to je. Riti bi se nam smejale. To je to, kar zdaj gledamo v ZDA.


Riti bi utihnile, ko bi navedbe Krkoviča potrdila Bertoncelj in Šoltes, ki sta v čimerkoli že sodelovala. Krkovič bi bil kar naenkrat nepomemben, saj je slišal iz druge roke. To je to, kar zdaj gledamo v ZDA.

Malo žalostno je, da moram za podpredsednika vlade guglat.

https://www.strankalms.si/vlada-rs/



V drugi novicah - časovnica - tvoj najljubši tvit se nanaša na 9. september:

https://twitter.com/zbyronwolf/status/1...
July 25 -- Trump asks for a favor
Aug. 12 -- Whistleblower complaint
Sep. 9 -- Trump says "I WANT NOTHING"
Also Sep. 9 -- Congress notified of whistleblower report.
Sep. 11 -- Aid released


Nekam pozno, da se v telefonsko slušalko dereš "I WANT NOTHING!!!"
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the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

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jype ::

Desničarji tako radi kažejo "glupe levičarje", sami so pa...

Loocas ::

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V drugi novicah - časovnica - tvoj najljubši tvit se nanaša na 9. september:
https://twitter.com/zbyronwolf/status/1...
July 25 -- Trump asks for a favor
Aug. 12 -- Whistleblower complaint
Sep. 9 -- Trump says "I WANT NOTHING"
Also Sep. 9 -- Congress notified of whistleblower report.
Sep. 11 -- Aid released

Nekam pozno, da se v telefonsko slušalko dereš "I WANT NOTHING!!!"


Čisto nepomembno, saj je Sondland na zaslišanju zanikal, da mu je Trump ali kdorkoli drug ukazal, da mora pogojevat karkoli.
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Sp3m ::

Še ena:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1197340859...

Aja pa zakaj take bedarije Demokrati počnejo:

NEW WISCONSIN POLL:

Trump now Leads all top Democrats

Trump 47, Biden 44
Trump 48, Sanders 45
Trump 48, Warren 43
Trump 48, Buttigieg 39

One month ago, Trump trailed all of these candidates but Buttigieg.

TRUMP IS SURGING 🔥

Fritz ::

Brez veze se kregate in pri tem zagovarjate ameriške desne in manj desne idiotizme.

Seveda so demokrati v riti, saj bi morali nagovoriti jezno in razočarano ljudstvo, katerega 1% sedaj že grdo nateguje. Tega seveda ne morejo, ker je vrh demokratov, tako kot republikancev, zlizan z 1%. In potem se obnašajo idiotsko, iracionalno ipd. ker ne morejo združiti teh dveh zgodb. Sanders in podobni imajo rešitev a ta za sabo potegne škodovanje interesom 1%. Pri republikancih pa teh težav trenutno nimajo, saj sicer nimajo rešitev a to nadomeščajo s populizmom in lažmi. Posledično so ljudje vse bolj razočarani in jezni in je samo vprašanje ali bodo na koncu svoj bes usmerili na 1% ali pa jih bodo prepričali da so sami sebi sovražniki (rasa, vera in podobne ločnice), nakar bo 1% spet služil medtem, ko se bo plebs pobijal med seboj.

Mimogrede, 'demokrati' razmišljajo, da bi kot protiutež Trumpu postavili svojega milijarderja Bloomberga. Can we go lower? Sem mislil, da po Bidnu ne gre nižje ampak očitno gre. Morda gre še bolj, če pride Hillary nazaj v igro.
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein

Master_Yoda ::

Ja MSM Sandersa nikjer skoraj niti ne omenjajo vec. Gre prevec v zelje 1%.
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain.

NewGreandeal ::

Master_Yoda je izjavil:

Ja MSM Sandersa nikjer skoraj niti ne omenjajo vec. Gre prevec v zelje 1%.


Sanders ne spada med 1%?
4 hiše in športni avto, kljub temu da ni delal niti en dan v svojem življenju ni dovolj da si 1%?

Sp3m ::

NewGreandeal je izjavil:

Master_Yoda je izjavil:

Ja MSM Sandersa nikjer skoraj niti ne omenjajo vec. Gre prevec v zelje 1%.


Sanders ne spada med 1%?
4 hiše in športni avto, kljub temu da ni delal niti en dan v svojem življenju ni dovolj da si 1%?


Ne potvarjaj zadev, spoštovani Crazy Bernie gara v senatu že leta in leta in se odreka bogastvu za našo prihodnsot.

Biden na včerajšnji demokrastki debati:



Pac-Man ::

Fritz je izjavil:

Mimogrede, 'demokrati' razmišljajo, da bi kot protiutež Trumpu postavili svojega milijarderja Bloomberga. Can we go lower? Sem mislil, da po Bidnu ne gre nižje ampak očitno gre. Morda gre še bolj, če pride Hillary nazaj v igro.


Demokrati nič ne razmišljajo, o tem razmišlja Bloomberg in četica 1%-arjev. Vmes ga je srečalo tudi malo pameti in s svojim bogastvom financira filanje volilnih imenikov & anti-trump oglase.

Bloomberg Launches $100 Million Anti-Trump Ad Campaign

Bloomberg spending $15M-$20M to register half million voters



V drugih novicah:

https://twitter.com/RadioFreeTom/status...

Okay, since the Republicans are going down this road, a quick explainer.
GOP questioners are saying that the President has the right to hold up legally-approved aid.
He does. But that's not what happened here. They're counting on their supporters being too stupid to know it.

The President can determine if a country has not met the legal conditions for providing aid. If Country X has a bad human rights record, and the aid says "on condition that Country X stop arresting dissidents," POTUS can choose to determine the conditions have not been met.
But those are *public* conditions in the aid package, usually made as a determination after interagency working groups have advised the President that Country X is or isn't in compliance with the conditions of the aid. Congress, if it disagrees, can query WH officials.

That is not this. In the Ukraine case, the executive branch officials (as Cooper is testifying now) determined that Ukraine had met the conditions attached to aid. Trump then added *secret* conditions through the Three Amigos that were purely to benefit *him*. In other words, Ukraine had met the conditions specified when Congress passed the law to grant the aid, but Trump wanted his own set of conditions that amounted to a promise by the Ukrainian president to embarrass Joe Biden on U.S. national television.

In other words, Trump ignored the conditions set by the law, ignored his own experts, ignored U.S. national security requirements, and said: "None of this moves until Zelensky does this humiliating thing that benefits no one else in the world but me, personally."

This is soliciting a bribe...worse, *extorting* a country under attack by Russia, not a normal "hold" on aid. Every member of Congress in that room knows this. They *know* it. But they are counting on their viewers over on Fox not to know it. Hideous.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

NewGreandeal ::

Sp3m je izjavil:


Ne potvarjaj zadev, spoštovani Crazy Bernie gara v senatu že leta in leta in se odreka bogastvu za našo prihodnsot.


Se opravičujem, so me zavedli fejk mediji:

Bernie Sanders Released His Tax Returns. He’s Part of the 1%.

Zaslužil je ogromno iz dona. pardon, iz prodaje knjig.

bobi_palčka ::

NewGreandeal je izjavil:

Sanders ne spada med 1%?
4 hiše in športni avto, kljub temu da ni delal niti en dan v svojem življenju ni dovolj da si 1%?


Tipičen buržuazijski socialist.

Master_Yoda ::

Ne z stirimi hisami in sportnim avtom ne spada v 1%. 1% je dosti bolj bogat. Ce nadaljujem vaso logiko se samo revezi lahko potegujejo in lobirajo za ostale reveze ?
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain.

drvo ::

Sanders je karikatura in hinavec.

Sp3m ::

Master_Yoda je izjavil:

Ne z stirimi hisami in sportnim avtom ne spada v 1%. 1% je dosti bolj bogat. Ce nadaljujem vaso logiko se samo revezi lahko potegujejo in lobirajo za ostale reveze ?


Seveda spada...

Are You in the World's Top 1 Percent?


    An income of $32,400 per year would allow someone to be among the top 1% of income earners in the world.



    To reach the top 1% worldwide in terms of wealth—not just income but all you own—you’d have to possess $770,000 in net worth.



    The bar to enter the top 1% wouldn't be this low were it not for the extreme poverty that so much of the globe endures

c3p0 ::

drvo je izjavil:

Sanders je karikatura in hinavec.


Kakšne bolj preproste osebke pa le naplahta, tudi tukaj jih je nekaj.

NewGreandeal ::

Uf, dober 3D šah igra Trump. Če bo šlo tako naprej ne bo na demokratski strani nobenega protikandidata in potem avtomatsko zmaga?

Lindsey Graham seeks transcripts of Biden calls with Ukraine leader

"Sen. Lindsey Graham wants access to phone transcripts between Vice President Joe Biden and Ukraine's leader in the month before a top prosecutor, who was alleged to have investigated the owner of the natural gas company that employed Biden's son, was fired.

President Trump and his allies have accused the elder Biden of pushing Ukraine to fire then-Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin to stop him from investigating Burisma Holdings' owner, Ukrainian oligarch Mykola Zlochevsky, in an effort to protect his son Hunter Biden."
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