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NMH ::

Kakorkoli obrneš je tole impresivna zadeva:



Test launch of new Russian anti-ballistic missile caught on.

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vostok_1 ::

There will be chutes!
It came from the lab.
Like tears in rain. Time to die. v_1 2012-21

Pac-Man ::

NMH je izjavil:

Kakorkoli obrneš je tole impresivna zadeva

Je. Leta 1972.

Sprint (missile) @ Wikipedia

Sprint accelerated at 100 g, reaching a speed of Mach 10 in 5 seconds. Such a high velocity at relatively low altitudes created skin temperatures up to 6,200 °F (3,430 °C), requiring an ablative shield to dissipate the heat.[1][2] The high temperature caused a plasma to form around the missile, requiring extremely powerful radio signals to reach it for guidance. The missile glowed bright white as it flew.

Še 50 minutni film o ameriškem ABM programu.



dvominutna verzija:

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vostok_1 ::

Glede radijske povezave sem se tudi jz spraševal. Kako komuniciraš z nečim, ki je obdan z plasmo.
Apparently it's doable.
There will be chutes!
It came from the lab.
Like tears in rain. Time to die. v_1 2012-21

vostok_1 ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:


Še 50 minutni film o ameriškem ABM programu.




Program, razsežnosti, katere si ne bi danes lahko privoščila nobena država, razen kitajske.
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It came from the lab.
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Pac-Man ::

vostok_1 je izjavil:

Glede radijske povezave sem se tudi jz spraševal. Kako komuniciraš z nečim, ki je obdan z plasmo.
Apparently it's doable.


https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio...

We wish to transmit messages to and from a hypersonic vehicle around which a plasma sheath has formed. For long distance transmission, the signal carrying these messages must be necessarily low frequency, typically 2 GHz, to which the plasma sheath is opaque. The idea is to use the plasma properties to make the plasma sheath appear transparent.
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Pac-Man ::

Priporočeno. 17 minut. Nisem še pogledal.

That Time the U.S. was Going to Build a Massive, Death Ray Equipped, Military Moon Base


Vir je legit.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/today-i-...
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Pac-Man ::

Če bo kdo na protestu, kjer se uporablja solzivec - granate se da pogasiti z vodo, ni več solzivca ;)

https://twitter.com/Jake_Hanrahan/statu...

The more you know...
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vostok_1 ::

Damn. That looks almost professional.
Mogoče ni zastonj, da je merjen IQ med east Asians največji.
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It came from the lab.
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vostok_1 ::

Ampak ja...Kitajska hoče na vsak način Hong Kong "nazaj". Gre za decisive military moral target. Vrjetno, ga bo tudi dobila. Američani so se sicer zaobljublji branit z nukicami, ampak nihče v resnici ne bo sprožil nuklearno vojno zavoljo enega otoka, tisoče kilometrov stran.
There will be chutes!
It came from the lab.
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NMH ::

vostok_1 je izjavil:

ampak nihče v resnici ne bo sprožil nuklearno vojno zavoljo enega otoka, tisoče kilometrov stran.


Tisto je Tajvan. HK je kitajski že 20 let.

vostok_1 ::

Shit, my bad. Sm mel druge reči v glavi ko sem to pisal.

Želel sem povedati, da Tajvan bo prej ali slej kitajski, ker ZDA ne bo sprožla vojne zavoljo enega otoka.
Za Primer Japonske, mogoče, ampak ne Tajvana.
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Mr.B ::

France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold

vostok_1 ::

Glede na to, da ima Kitajska že vse načrte F35ke, naj še delajo kose ane.

Zahod je totalno zgubil kompas.
Ampak to be fair, je tudi ZDA nekoć kupovala ruski titan za izdelavo SR-71.
There will be chutes!
It came from the lab.
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Pac-Man ::

https://twitter.com/russiandefpolic/sta...

Investigation determines a pot hole and uneven road caused this Pantsir gun-missile system to overturn near Vladivostok on March 11. Press piece asks how this $15 million weapon can drive off-road if it crashes on the highway.

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vostok_1 ::

Nihče ne komentira novega EU lovca?



PS. Spet sem imel prav. Droni bodo igrali poglavito vlogo. Manned letalo bo tam bolj koordinator kot pa fighter.
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fikus_ ::

Vojaško letalo s pilotom postaja predraga zadeva tudi za velike, da bi ga kar tako poslal v prvo bojno linijo blizu dogajanja. Do sedaj so to reševali z raketami dolgega dosega nekaj do 100 km, ampak so tudi drage, da bi jih kar tako uporabil proti manjšim ciljem v podporo pehoti.

Namenski dron, specializiran za določeno nalogo je lahko precej manjši (ni človeka, ni pilotske kabine), ima eno vrsto oborožitve (opravi nalogo in se vrne), je manj pogrešljiv, cenejši, predvsem pa ni pilota.

Vprašanje je, kako/koliko je EU sposobna zagotavljat ustrezno (neodvisno od USA) in varno komunikacijo med centrom vodenja in droni. In koliko je sposobna sodelovanja tako v financah kot pri človeških virih pri razvoju ter kasnejši proizvodnji.

vostok_1 ::

V modernih konfliktih, kjer se vsi streljajo na par 100km...je človek v kabini, useless and a liability.

Skratka, piloti v prvih bojnih linjah so preteklost.
There will be chutes!
It came from the lab.
Like tears in rain. Time to die. v_1 2012-21

Mr.B ::

vostok_1 je izjavil:

V modernih konfliktih, kjer se vsi streljajo na par 100km...je človek v kabini, useless and a liability.

Skratka, piloti v prvih bojnih linjah so preteklost.

Pa je kup bojnih letal s plioti nad afgansistanom in mečejo bombe.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold

vostok_1 ::

Vedno manj. Gre pač za posledico, da je potrebno trošit staro opremo.

Sicer pa metanje bomb na kamelo-ljubitelje ni prva bojna linija, so to speak.
There will be chutes!
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Mr.B ::

vostok_1 je izjavil:

Vedno manj. Gre pač za posledico, da je potrebno trošit staro opremo.

Sicer pa metanje bomb na kamelo-ljubitelje ni prva bojna linija, so to speak.

A misliü da te triljone z F35 dajejo v staro #elezo ?
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold

vostok_1 ::

F35, je, staro železo.
There will be chutes!
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bbbbbb2015 ::

Invictus je izjavil:

Smrekar1 je izjavil:


Povej to indijcem, ki Su-27/30 nikakor ne morejo pripraviti k delu.

Če je pa Made in India...


Kolikor vem, je tu več problemov. Osnovni je, da Rusi ne naredijo technology transferja, kot so to želeli Indijci. Drugič, mislim, da tudi motorji na Su 27/30/35 še niso taki, kot so obljubili Indijcem. Kot tretjič, avionika še ni taka, kot so si to predstavljai Indijci. Indijci so šli tudi v Su 57 program, pa so tudi tam odstopili, ker "stealth" bi tak, kot so si predstavljali (ne vem, kaj so Rusi obljubili).

Tako, kot rezime se bere, kot da je z Indijci kaj narobe. Je pa stvar taka, da so MIG-21 Indijci perfektirali do daske, edini "problem" je vseeno, da gre za staro robo.

Kaj pa vem. Zahtevne stranke.

Pakistanci so naredili bolj praktičen deal. Razvili so (s Kitajci) nek relativno poceni klon F-16:
CAC/PAC JF-17 Thunder @ Wikipedia

Ki ga sedaj dopolnjujejo in pilijo. Ni to raketna znanost, samo če bi se srečala JF-17 in MIG-21/29, bi bilo na tesno.

jype ::

vostok_1 je izjavil:

Spet sem imel prav.
Never happened.

vostok_1 je izjavil:

F35, je, staro železo.
Izdelujejo ga iz kompozitnih materialov in odpadnih vejic, ki jih ti nastreljaš po besedilu.

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vostok_1 ::

jype je izjavil:

Never happened.


Te bom kar citiral:

Ne sodi druge po sebi.
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It came from the lab.
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jype ::

vostok_1 je izjavil:

Te bom kar citiral:
Motiš se vsekakor lahko še naprej, a do zdaj še nikoli nisi imel prav.

Pac-Man ::

10-metrski krater v nemškem koruznem polju, ker je šla bomba iz 2. sv. vojne spontano kabum.

https://twitter.com/MatMcLachlan/status...
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the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
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BorutK-73 ::

Je mel srečo trakorist da jo ni aktiviral. Ena guma je šlo točno čez sredino kraterja.

borisk ::

traktorist je verjetno sprožil časovnik, glede na to da je kr frišna špura.

Pac-Man ::

Temeljita nit o današnji dobavi komponent za S-400 v Turčijo
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1149...
še ena o ozadju posla
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1149...

o prihodnosti ruske mornarice, tudi modelih (jedrskih) letalonosilk, ki imajo iz meni neznanega razloga še vedno skakalnice
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1148...

in še ena o FSBjevcih, ki so kradli med hišnimi preiskavami. Vse je šlo super, dokler se niso spravili na banko ex GRU-jevca.
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1147...
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the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
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Pac-Man ::

Bom tole pozabil tu.

https://twitter.com/Hush_Kit/status/115...

If this gets 300 retweets I'll share our Su-30 pilot interview this week, if it reaches 400 I'll follow it with our JF-17 pilot interview...sound fair?
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the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
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7982884e ::

ne pozabi bumpat ko clovek delivera :)

fikus_ ::

Zanimivo, nekaj "novega"!

". . . Norwegian defense officials discovered that their fancy fleet of F-35s also automatically transmit sensitive data to Lockheed Martin's servers in Fort Worth, Texas, after each flight. . . . "

Manjka še samo daljinsko vodenje letala/drona.

Mr.B ::

fikus_ je izjavil:

Zanimivo, nekaj "novega"!

". . . Norwegian defense officials discovered that their fancy fleet of F-35s also automatically transmit sensitive data to Lockheed Martin's servers in Fort Worth, Texas, after each flight. . . . "

Manjka še samo daljinsko vodenje letala/drona.

Ej FB stran za pobidnike let storm area 51 so ugasnili.

Ps, vse gre preko centrale.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold

WaterBoy ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Temeljita nit o današnji dobavi komponent za S-400 v Turčijo
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1149...
še ena o ozadju posla
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1149...

o prihodnosti ruske mornarice, tudi modelih (jedrskih) letalonosilk, ki imajo iz meni neznanega razloga še vedno skakalnice
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1148...

in še ena o FSBjevcih, ki so kradli med hišnimi preiskavami. Vse je šlo super, dokler se niso spravili na banko ex GRU-jevca.
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1147...


Torej posel o S-400 z turčijo je dober za risujo ali samo za turke?

Glede letalonosilk: mogoče nimajo razvitega parnega katapulta, da o elektromagnetnem sploh ne govorimo.

vostok_1 ::

fikus_ je izjavil:

Zanimivo, nekaj "novega"!

". . . Norwegian defense officials discovered that their fancy fleet of F-35s also automatically transmit sensitive data to Lockheed Martin's servers in Fort Worth, Texas, after each flight. . . . "

Manjka še samo daljinsko vodenje letala/drona.


Nič presenetljivega. Delno gre za vohunjenje, delno gre za analitiko.
There will be chutes!
It came from the lab.
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Invictus ::

Evo še Ruse...

"Life is hard; it's even harder when you're stupid."

http://goo.gl/2YuS2x

Pac-Man ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Bom tole pozabil tu.

https://twitter.com/Hush_Kit/status/115...

If this gets 300 retweets I'll share our Su-30 pilot interview this week, if it reaches 400 I'll follow it with our JF-17 pilot interview...sound fair?


Bump.

https://hushkit.net/2019/07/20/flying-f...
https://hushkit.net/2019/07/19/flying-f...

fikus_ je izjavil:

Zanimivo, nekaj "novega"!

". . . Norwegian defense officials discovered that their fancy fleet of F-35s also automatically transmit sensitive data to Lockheed Martin's servers in Fort Worth, Texas, after each flight. . . . "

Manjka še samo daljinsko vodenje letala/drona.


Povej kaj novega.



WaterBoy je izjavil:

Glede letalonosilk: mogoče nimajo razvitega parnega katapulta, da o elektromagnetnem sploh ne govorimo.


Ravno v tem je hec.

Imajo 2 katapulta in 2 skakalnici. Morda se bojijo, da bo katapult v1.0 buggy, skakalnica pa omogoča, da vsaj nekaj spravijo v zrak.
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Pac-Man ::

RE včerajšnja nesreča v Rusiji, po kateri je bila zaznana povečana radiacija - do 10. septembra so zaprli 30*8 km pas morja ob testnem poligonu, zelo verjetno gre za malfunkcijo jedrsko gnanega projektila.
Malo čudno, ker je v okolici precej naseljenih področij (Severodvinsk in Arhangelsk sta 30 in 65 km stran), ampak glede na satelitske posnetke so testiranja prestavili z Nove Zemlje.
Povsem možno, da je eksplodirala kemično gnana raketa - jedrski projektili delujejo po principu ramjeta in rabijo začetno hitrost.
9M730 Burevestnik @ Wikipedia

Videi & dodaten info na povezavah

https://twitter.com/ain92ru/status/1159...
Russian authorities closed an area of ~250 km² (~30×8 km) for shipping due to a deadly incident on #Nyonoksa (#Nenoksa) naval missile testing range (link: http://www.mapm.ru/PripAr )
For the reference, the wind here is southerly ↑ acc. to GFS model.
BREAKING: People injured during the deadly missile test incident in #Nyonoksa (#Nenoksa) are treated from exposure to ionizing radiation, reports Russian online media Baza.
Although I was sceptical initially, I have little doubts now that the incident is linked to Burevestnik/SSC-X-9 SKYFALL nuclear-powered ICCM program.
RuMoD claim that the incident involved a luquid-fueled rocket engine most likely is a lie to cover up the gravity of the situation


https://twitter.com/ArmsControlWonk/sta...
Nenoksa is an interesting site -- it is a Russian missile test site along the Arctic Coast. @planetlabs has an image taken on August 8 at 11:29 local time. (We still aren't sure exactly when the explosion occurred.)
Lenta reports that two sources claimed the explosion "may be" related to the testing of the Zircon.
The Russian Defense Ministry also said it was a liquid propellant engine (жидкостной реактивной двигательной) missile, which would fit the Zircon.
But a failed Zircon test shouldn't release radiation.
There are images and videos of a medical evacuation helicopter and personnel in bunny suits (hazmat suits).

Another possibility is that it was a failed test of Russia's nuclear-powered cruise missile (9M730 Burevestnik/ SSC-X-9 Skyfall).
Last year, @annemp13 and I noticed that Russia was packing up the Pankovo test site, on Novaya Zemlya, used for past tests.

After closing up the Pankovo site, Russia seems to have constructed a copy of the site at Nenoksa, with the same rail-based shelter.
(There is also a similar facility at Kapustin Yar, which may be for tests without the nuclear-power unit.)
UPDATE: There are reports that the explosion occurred aboard a ship. It’s looks like the Serebryanka. The ship’s name might ring a bell.
The Serebryanka was one of the ships we believe was involved in Russia’s effort to recover a nuclear-powered cruise missile that crashed at sea.

Our friend @nktpnd quoting @Shea_Cotton and @DuitsyWasHere on the Serebryanka's probable role in recovering a nuclear-powered cruise missile off Novaya Zemlya last summer.
On balance, this would tend to authenticate the photos and videos of first responders in hazmat suits.
@fab_hinz found the same ambulance (same license plate) in a news report about Arkhangelsk first responders.
And @DuitsyWasHere finds that the helicopter in the video is owned by a company in Arkhangelsk.


https://twitter.com/ArmsControlWonk/sta...
An August 8 image from @planetlabs showing the Serebryanka, a nuclear fuel carrier, near a missile test site in Russia, where an explosion and fire broke out earlier.
The ship's presence may be related to the testing of a nuclear-powered cruise missile.
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Pac-Man ::

Namesto dveh je zdaj že 5 mrtvih, vsi uslužbenci Rosatoma, ranjene so po Moskvi vozili v rešilcih z zalepljenimi zadnjimi vrati. Kaj so Rosatomovci počeli na testiranju raketnega motorja?

https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1159...

Video from Baza of the injured being transported to the hospital in Moscow. The ambulance drivers appear to be wearing hazmat suits, and the ambulances have plastic film covering them
https://t.me/bazabazon/1721

Rosatom has announced that 5 of its employees died in the test, and another 3 were injured with burns of varying degrees of severity.
https://ria.ru/20190810/1557365082.html


Gtranslate:
At an emergency at a military training ground in the Arkhangelsk region on Thursday, five Rosatom employees died, three more received injuries and burns of varying severity, the state corporation said.
Earlier, the Ministry of Defense reported that there were two dead.

...

By coincidence, at the time of the fire, Rosatom employees checked isotopic power sources designed for a liquid-propellant installation," the agency’s source said.
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Pac-Man ::

Jup, Burevestnik.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles...

Five scientists killed in a deadly explosion last week during a missile test on Russia’s White Sea had been working on developing a small-scale nuclear reactor, according to a top official at the institute they worked.

...

The men, who will be buried Monday, were national heroes and the “elite of the Russian Federal Nuclear Center,” institute Director Valentin Kostyukov said in the video, which was also posted on an official website in Sarov, a high-security city devoted to nuclear research less than 400 kilometers (250 miles) east of Moscow.

The blast occurred Aug. 8 during a test of a missile that used “isotope power sources” on an offshore platform in the Arkhangelsk region, close to the Arctic Circle, Russia’s state nuclear company Rosatom said over the weekend.
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Pac-Man ::

Ruski Kanye v sodelovanju z Voentorg predstavlja kolekcijo pomlad/poletje 2019.

https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1133...

Kaj reč? Cote vsaj niso strgane, bi bilo pa zanimivo vedet koliko vojaškega proračuna je šlo v to patriotsko predstavo.
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Pac-Man ::

Govorice.

https://twitter.com/ain92ru/status/1160...

A new detail of the Nyonoksa (Nenoksa) incident from Baza sources in VNIIEF: the explosion happened the moment the missile, which had fallen in the sea after engine failure, was raised up from the water
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Pac-Man ::

WaPo Op-Ed.

Why Russia can’t hide nuclear accidents like it used to

“We just don’t live in that era anymore,” says Lewis. “This time the story hit the social media sphere immediately.” As they faced growing exposure from open sources, even Russian officials felt compelled to release tidbits of information. Meanwhile, Lewis and his fellow academics were able to order up imagery of the missile test site as soon as they managed to figure out its rough location. “I’m not the government,” he says. “But I called up my friends at Planet Labs and said, ‘There was this explosion. Could you take a picture of this?’”

The academic experts who dissected the White Sea accident are part of a remarkable new movement that has yet to receive its due. Some refer to it as “open-source intelligence” or “public intelligence.” Its practitioners include groups like Bellingcat, which has used geolocation and other open-source information to uncover possible Syrian war crimes and the identities of Russian intelligence operatives, and Datayo, which aims to track and analyze nuclear weapons data.
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the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Pac-Man ::

Dobra nit s satelitskimi posnetki. Sploh je zanimiva spodnja neidentificirana ladja, blazna ostrina za civilom dostopen, svež posnetek.

https://twitter.com/ckoettl/status/1162...

And finally, on Aug. 12, satellite imagery captured a new Russian ship heading towards the offshore platform in the restricted area. Possibly related to a salvaging operation for platform and/or nuclear reactor?
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vostok_1 ::

Kje točno je point neclear powered cruise missile...

A ni lažje naredit mini drone podmornico polno s parimi normalnimi.
There will be chutes!
It came from the lab.
Like tears in rain. Time to die. v_1 2012-21

Pac-Man ::

Vojaško-industrijski kompleks se lahko debeli.

https://nucleardiner.wordpress.com/2019...

On Twitter, I’ve been a bit of a naysayer. I’m not disagreeing that Russia is testing what they believe will become their Burevestnik. I’m saying I think they’ll never have an operating system.

I think that what has happened is that someone sold a program to Putin. The visuals are cool, and the idea of a cruise missile that can just keep cruising obviously appealed to him. “Nuclear-powered” sounds good. The promoter of the program may even believe in it.

Programs have been sold this way in the United States. We are still working on the missile defense that Edward Teller bamboozled Ronald Reagan into. I recall a Labor Day weekend in which the proof test for laser isotope separation was to be completed. It wasn’t. People get overenthusiastic about their ideas or just are selling something they think would be fun to work on or to make their status higher.

But there are basic and fundamental engineering considerations that suggest that a nuclear-powered cruise missile with a very small power source, will be very difficult or impossible to build.


https://nucleardiner.wordpress.com/2019...
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Smrekar1 ::

vostok_1 je izjavil:

Kje točno je point neclear powered cruise missile...

A ni lažje naredit mini drone podmornico polno s parimi normalnimi.


Ena izmed prednosti rakete na jedrski pogon je, da jo je precej lažje narediti kot npr. mini drone podmornico z normalnimi vodenimi raketami. Raketa na jedrski pogon namreč ni nek zadnji krik tehnike. Prva testiranja gredo v leto 1946:
Aircraft Nuclear Propulsion @ Wikipedia

ZDA so imele podoben projekt v petdesetih in šestedestih in so se odločili, da je zadeva malo prehuda:
Project Pluto @ Wikipedia

Prišli so do prototipa, nato so ugotovili, da so medkontinentalne rakete enostavnejše kot so si predstavljali in rakete z neomejenim dosegom niso bile več potrebne.

Prednost take rakete je sicer v tem, da jo izstreliš, nato poljubno dolgo kroži po svetu in napade skozi šibko točko obrambe. Ker se jo da zaznati in sestreliti tudi med letom tu ni mišljeno, da bi frčala okoli pet tednov, ampak vseeno jo lahko izstreliš iz recimo Irkutska globoko v Sibiriji, leti na jug, prečka južni tečaj, sledi Andom, nato centralni Ameriki in prečka mejo nekje pri Arizoni in napade karkoli že.

Ni toliko koliko škode naredi kot to, da moraš za učinkovito obrambo pred takim sistemom nameniti toliko sredstev, da naredi ogromno škode ostalim vojaškim kapacitetam.

Pac-Man ::

Animacija vetra od lokacije testa. Piha proti vzhodu, morda bi lahko kaj zaznali vremenarji ob obali Črnega morja.

https://twitter.com/SinaZerbo/status/11...

Sicer so detektorji radiacije tudi na ozemlju Rusije, ampak dve najbližji postaji, kjer animacija pokaže precej gost oblak, sta na žalost padli iz omrežja CTBT. Se zgodi, Murphy.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/russian-nu...

Two days after the explosion of a suspected nuclear-powered cruise missile undergoing testing on Aug. 8, two monitoring stations nearest the site of the accident stopped transmitting data, Lassina Zerbo, who heads the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty Organization, told The Wall Street Journal.

The Russian monitoring stations, called Dubna and Kirov after the places where they are located, were contacted immediately about the data disruption, Mr. Zerbo wrote in an email on Sunday to the Journal, and Russian officials responded that they were experiencing "communication & network issues."
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

vostok_1 ::

Smrekar1 je izjavil:

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Kje točno je point neclear powered cruise missile...

A ni lažje naredit mini drone podmornico polno s parimi normalnimi.


Ena izmed prednosti rakete na jedrski pogon je, da jo je precej lažje narediti kot npr. mini drone podmornico z normalnimi vodenimi raketami. Raketa na jedrski pogon namreč ni nek zadnji krik tehnike. Prva testiranja gredo v leto 1946:
Aircraft Nuclear Propulsion @ Wikipedia

ZDA so imele podoben projekt v petdesetih in šestedestih in so se odločili, da je zadeva malo prehuda:
Project Pluto @ Wikipedia

Prišli so do prototipa, nato so ugotovili, da so medkontinentalne rakete enostavnejše kot so si predstavljali in rakete z neomejenim dosegom niso bile več potrebne.

Prednost take rakete je sicer v tem, da jo izstreliš, nato poljubno dolgo kroži po svetu in napade skozi šibko točko obrambe. Ker se jo da zaznati in sestreliti tudi med letom tu ni mišljeno, da bi frčala okoli pet tednov, ampak vseeno jo lahko izstreliš iz recimo Irkutska globoko v Sibiriji, leti na jug, prečka južni tečaj, sledi Andom, nato centralni Ameriki in prečka mejo nekje pri Arizoni in napade karkoli že.

Ni toliko koliko škode naredi kot to, da moraš za učinkovito obrambo pred takim sistemom nameniti toliko sredstev, da naredi ogromno škode ostalim vojaškim kapacitetam.


Ja to mi je jasno. Ampak tehnični in politični aspekt je precej neroden.
Če ta zadeva ponesreči pade na kako državo.
Ne vem, bolj zanesljivo se mi zdi imet nekje bolj statične reči, ki jih po potrebi zbudiš, kot pa nekaj, da zanesljivo leti toliko časa.
There will be chutes!
It came from the lab.
Like tears in rain. Time to die. v_1 2012-21
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