Iran - odštevanje

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tikitoki je 26. okt 2024 ob 16:13 izjavil:

zakaj Izrael trenutno napada mirovne sile v Libanonu??

Kaj počnejo Hezbolahovi rovi okoli teh UN baz?

tikitoki je 26. okt 2024 ob 16:21 izjavil:

Ne vem zakaj se Izraelci konstantno lazejo.

Hezbollah tunnel found 100m from UN base

Misinformation in the Israel%E2%80%93Hamas war @ Wikipedia

Zoglj se uporabna tesla verjamejo vse pravljcie, ki jih IDF siri.

https://x.com/DrEliDavid/status/1850131...
Israel reportedly destroyed all the radars of Russian S-400 and S-300 systems in Iran, leaving Iran's entire airspace blinded to future attacks
Source: @sherrwood9

prevod iz hebrejščine

https://x.com/sherrwood9/status/1850124...
A (long) reference to the attack and answers to the questions I received in the last few hours:

First, it should be understood that Iran has built an entire array of Iranian emissaries, some on the borders of the State of Israel such as Hezbollah and Hamas and some in the third circle such as the Houthis.
The purpose of the messengers was to fight a war of attrition in Israel, but to maintain peace in Iran.
This doctrine is a direct lesson learned from the Iraq-Iran war and the desire of the Iranians to prevent a war from coming directly to their land.
It was like this for decades, Iran had a "virtual" border with Israel through its emissaries, but Israel had no border with Iran.
After the destruction of Hamas and Hezbollah, not only in terms of the destruction of their military capabilities, but their de facto destruction as a functioning organization, Iran was forced to carry out offensive operations against Israel directly, and yesterday, for the first time ever, Israel carried out a large-scale attack on Iranian soil, and for the first time since the Iran-Iraq War Missiles fall on Tehran.

It is forbidden to enter into the concept, and certainly not to talk anymore in terms of deterrence, whether Iran is deterred or not, I hope that the government understands this, and looks at capabilities and not intentions.

Therefore, it is necessary to refer only to the capabilities that were destroyed, it is useful to understand what capabilities were on the agenda in terms of the Israeli attack: air defense systems, weapons manufacturing plants, weapons launch capabilities, headquarters, personnel targets/disability of senior officials, energy facilities and nuclear facilities.

Israel chose, in my opinion very wisely at this point, to go for the destruction of 2 types of targets.

The destruction of the air defense, as I wrote, was based on the five missiles of the Hass 300 and 400, super advanced defense systems, which mainly protected Tehran, they were the most advanced detection and identification capabilities that the Iranians have today, these targets were completely destroyed, and whoever thinks that this is a short-lived event until they are provided New Russian radar systems, just wrong.
The Russians, because of the Ukraine war, are very short of radars themselves, and therefore cannot export advanced radars of this type to Iran at this time.
Although not for ever, it is not a gap that the Iranians will be able to bridge in the immediate time frame.
Therefore, Iran is currently exposed/blind to everything that happens militarily in its airspace, this is a great advantage, if we need to carry out another attack in the near future.

Destroying the production capabilities, producing ground-to-ground missiles is a very complex thing, the Iranians had a number of very secret and highly protected sites for the production or in more professional language, for the mixing of the necessary materials, for the production of these missiles.
One facility that belonged to the Revolutionary Guards in the Masyaf region of Syria, built underground at a secret and remote site, was destroyed on September 9 by a Sheldag force operating on the ground in Syrian soil, which left the Revolutionary Guards with only the Iranian production sites.
Without going into details, there were several facilities, and in each facility a number of mixers, in total, the total production capabilities of the Iranian ground-to-ground missiles were based on approximately 20 such mixers, which were completely destroyed, meaning that in the immediate time frame, Iran cannot produce a new stock of ballistic missiles.

Ammunition depots, including top secret depots that the Iranians were sure Israel was not aware of that included missiles and IEDs were also precisely destroyed.

According to estimates, Iran has between 1500 and 3000 ballistic missiles.
As we saw in the last round, in terms of launch capabilities, they can simultaneously launch in the region of 200 missiles at a time.

Assuming they choose to do so, launchers are large, stationary targets that are easy to destroy from the air, preparing a launch takes time, and when there is no air defense then it will also be possible to damage the launch capabilities dramatically.

In addition, Israel has opened a window of opportunity, that if Iran decides to respond, it will allow Israel to threaten or attack the Iranian nuclear facilities.
I estimate that this is a risk that the Iranians will not want to take.

Finally, a word about the US, although Iran hates the US, and accuses it of fully supporting Israel, but it signed a nuclear deal with it in the past and the US "played on the whole field" and sent reassuring messages between Iran and Israel and vice versa.

For the first time the US is taking a very active part in the operation.
The Americans were part of planning and approving the goals (including the limitations that the Americans requested on the way "to the goal").
The Americans sent a Taaad battery, including American soldiers, to assist in the defense efforts if Israel is attacked, and this is actually a strong message to the Iranians that there is a real defense alliance between Israel and the US.

To sum up, this is a very accurate attack, in my opinion, a number of Israeli weapons capabilities were exposed here that Israel would have preferred to keep for the day of judgment, the Iranian nuclear problem is still the biggest problem in the Middle East and perhaps in the world.
I see a historic and possibly one-time window of opportunity to destroy it, I hope that maybe after the elections the leaders in Israel and the US will have the courage to carry out such an attack, there will be no better time, when Iran no longer has real emissaries on the border with Israel, there is no active air defense , and does not have an active array for missiles

koyotee je 26. okt 2024 ob 17:34 izjavil:

ni muslimanov, ni problema

Pozabil si IDF.

mtosev je 26. okt 2024 ob 19:38 izjavil:

Upam, da so Iranci tako pametni, da se ne bodo odzvali.

Na CNN pravijo, da odgovora verjetno ne bo. Normiji lahko mirno spimo!

https://x.com/Tammuz_Intel/status/18501...
Missile booster was found in Salah Alden Governorate, northern #Iraq, that was used in last night's attack on Tehran.

Spent booster of a Golden Horizon air-launched ballistic missile released from an Israeli F-15A-D Baz or F-15I Ra'am over eastern Syria or Northern Iraq.



What features prominently is the mention of two Air-launched Ballistic Missile (ALBM) systems: Golden Horizon and Rocks. Rocks is a long-range missile system made by the Israeli company Rafael and designed to hit a variety of targets both above and below ground. Golden Horizon is thought to refer to the Blue Sparrow missile system with a range of around 2,000km (1,240 miles).

Izraelska letala so rakete poišljala izven iranskega zračnega prostora...

Tako, da če začneš s tako pravljico, je škoda brat naprej.

Izraelci z lahkoto dosežejo Iran, in to zelo globoko v Iran... tole čudo od Golden Horizon-a, ki se izstreljuju iz F-15 , ima vsaj 2000km dosega.

PS: The shortest distance (air line) between Tehran and Tel-Aviv, ISR is 985.31 mi (1,585.70 km).

Legon je 26. okt 2024 ob 20:57 izjavil:

v kateri pravljici je bila ta operacija izvedena brez amerišekga supporta? Predvsem pa je bilo jasno koliko so sposobni izraelci zadet. Zdaj lahko se tolažiš, da imajo 100% natančne rakete, ki zadanejo kar si njihov PR izmisli, ampak tole je bilo daleč od česarkoli kar so napovedovali.

Pač Američani niso dovolili napada na iranske naftne in jedrske inštalacije. Težko zastopit?

Važno, da so jih, ne rabi, da jim vse takoj uničijo. Koliko joka in stoka za eno rundo. Koliko bi jokal, če bi šli 2x? Morda pa bojo... Prej ste jokali, ker jih niso takoj drugi dan napadli.
Očitno jim je slo dobro glede na količino jokarije.

Napadli so z vsaj 130 letali, vsaj 20 ciljev. Sploh ne vemo, kaj točno vse je bilo zadeto.

nazadnje so Iranci lansirali rakete iz preko 70 lokacij, tako da kakorkoli obračaš 20 raket ni naredilo drakonske škode. Best case scenarij, je da so ciljali protiletalske sisteme, kakor trdi njihov PR. Pa tudi to ne bo bistveno omejilo ofenzivne sposobnosti Irana.

A sugeriraš, da eliminirajo poveljnike Hamasa in Hezbolaha tudi z ameriško pomočjo?

kako si prišel do tako nemunega zaključka verjetno še sam ne veš.

Ne samo, da vejo za teroristična skrivališča, vejo še za to, KDAJ SE BO KAKŠEN poveljnik v določenem skrivališču nahajal (tajming).

kar je super za izvajanje atentatov, bore malo pa koristi če hočeš oneposobit ofenzivne kapacitete 100 milionske države.

https://x.com/dailyLBnews/status/185026...
Axios website, quoting a senior American official: The Israeli strike paralyzes Iran's ability to produce missiles.

iz Index.hr


prije sat vremena
Izvori: Izrael u Iranu uništio ključnu opremu za proizvodnju projektila
Izraelski napad na Iran uništio je kritičnu komponentu iranskog programa za proizvodnju balističkih projektila, objavio je Axios pozivajući se na tri anonimna izraelska izvora. Uništavanje opreme ozbiljno šteti sposobnosti Irana da obnovi svoje zalihe projektila i moglo bi odvratiti Iran od daljnjih masovnih raketnih napada na Izrael, rekli su izvori.

Izvori su rekli da je Izrael pogodio 12 "planetarnih miksera" koji se koriste za proizvodnju krutog goriva za balističke projektile dugog dometa, a koji čine najveći dio iranskog raketnog arsenala.

Visoki američki dužnosnik potvrdio je da je napad oštetio iransku sposobnost proizvodnje projektila. Izraelski izvori također tvrde da su mikseri visoko sofisticirana oprema koju Iran ne može proizvesti sam i mora je kupiti od Kine. Rekonstrukcija miksera mogla bi trajati najmanje godinu dana, rekli su izvori.

Iako Iran još uvijek ima velike zalihe balističkih projektila, izraelski izvori kažu da bi činjenica da Iran ne može proizvesti nove balističke projektile također ograničila njegovu sposobnost obnavljanja zaliha Hezbolaha i Huta.

Izraelski izvori tvrde i da su u napadu također pogođena četiri sustava protuzračne obrane S-300 koja su bila na strateškim lokacijama i štitila Teheran te nuklearna i energetska postrojenja u Iranu.

Iranska vojska je u izjavi rekla da je izraelski napad izveden iz zračnog prostora Iraka i dodala da je nekoliko radarskih sustava pretrpjelo ograničena oštećenja. Iranska vojska nije spomenula štetu na lokacijama za proizvodnju projektila ili bespilotnih letjelica i naglasila je da Iran zadržava pravo na odgovor.

Izraelski izvori potvrdili su da su napadi izvedeni iz sirijskog i iračkog zračnog prostora, neki od njih blizu iračke granice s Iranom. Izvori su rekli da su izraelske zračne snage napale tvornicu za proizvodnju bespilotnih letjelica i izvele "simboličan" napad na objekt u gradu Parchinu koji je u prošlosti korišten za istraživanje i razvoj nuklearnog oružja.

https://x.com/MartinRosenkra3/status/18...
tukaj so bile zadete vsaj 4 stavbe

Kolikor sem bral na x omrežju iz različnih virov, Izraelski napad, vsaj glede na število letal, ki so pri tem sodelovala, ni bil posebno uspešen.

Ma daj nehaj - praktično še ni satelitskih posnetkov

Tudi Iran bi sicer v prihodnje lahko protizračno še okrepil, kakšne dodatne dobave Ruskih S-300 in 400 sistemov s katerimi so Rusi očitno kar dobro založeni.

Ne, Rusi zagotovo niso dobro založeni s temi sistemi, ker jih še v Rusiji nimajo dovolj.

Lol Iran pozivajo naj se ne odzivajo na napad Izraela, ker je bila samoobramba hahaha

Tezko rečeš da je samoobramba, ce si prvi drezal v osje gnezdo.

Hezbolah je iranski kolko jaz vem.

Strel455 je 26. okt 2024 ob 13:31 izjavil:

V letih 1932-33, ko je politika iz Moskve ubila na miljone Ukrajincev (Holodomor) je Moskva tja preselila predvsem rusko prebivalstvo. In danes poslušamo, da je Donbas ruski, ker tami živi večina Rusov.

wikipedia pravi za holodomor:


While scholars are in consensus that the cause of the famine was man-made, it remains in dispute whether the Holodomor was directed at Ukrainians and whether it constitutes a genocide, the point of contention being the absence of attested documents explicitly ordering the starvation of any area in the Soviet Union.

Holodomor v Gazi 2023-2024 je dokumentiran

IgorCardanof je 26. okt 2024 ob 08:12 izjavil:

Tole je pa blamaza obeh strani. Izraela, ki ni naredil prakticno nicesar in Irana, ki je ubistvu pokazal, da nima nobene zracnw obrambe in lahko tujci prosto letijo in bombardirajo.

Iran se zelo verjetno na ta sibek napad ne bo odzval in bo raje sprejel, da sta si z Izraelom sedaj bot za prejsni napad z raketami.

Kako nimajo zracne obrambe. Kup raket so sestrelili, prav tako tudi drone. ? Na iraski zracni prostor pa zihr ne bojo izstreljevali protiletalskih.

https://x.com/IsraelWarRoom/status/1850...
Satellite images published today reveal damage to two key Iranian military sites following Israeli strikes. The targeted facilities include Parchin, a nuclear-related site and IRGC military base, and Khojir, a critical location for Iran's ballistic missile production. Images confirm Israel hit solid fuel mixing facilities crucial to missile manufacturing.

Kateri miti naj bi to bili?

IL_DIAVOLO je 26. okt 2024 ob 23:44 izjavil:

Hezbolah je iranski kolko jaz vem.

Hezbolah je iranski ravno ene toliko, kot so bili naši partizani angleški, ker so jim angleži pomagali z opremo v boju proti nacijem.

Izraelski odgovor je bil strateško naravnan in omejen:
1. zmanjšati sposobnost iranske protizracne obrambe in tako odpreti prostor za "cenejše" potencialne zračne napade v prihodnosti.
2. Zmanjšati proizvodnje kapacitete iranske raketne industrije, katera edina omogoča Iranu, da vsaj malo direktno škoduje Izraelu.
V kolikor bi Iran zopet napadel z raketami Izrael, bi verjetno sledil napad na jedrske objekte in preostale protizračne sisteme v Iranu.

Strel455 je 27. okt 2024 ob 08:11 izjavil:

https://x.com/Currentreport1/status/185...

The Chief of Staff of Iranian force:
Last night, Israel launched a missile attack from Iraqi airspace targeting Tehran, Khuzestan, and Ilam. Some radars were hit, but they were promptly restored.

Taksna izjava pove vse. Zakaj bedaki sploh karkoli komentirajo.