Zakaj so električni avtomobili prava stvar

Povčeanje masovnega zastruplanja prebivalstva ni ravno pozitivna reč.

nevone je 9. okt 2016 ob 13:20 izjavil:

Povčeanje masovnega zastruplanja prebivalstva ni ravno pozitivna reč.

Kje bo pa proizvedena elektrika, ko/če bo EV-jev primerljivo toliko ali več, kot je danes vozil na fosilna goriva?

o+ nevone

Ford je zmanjšal izpuste CO2 svojih vozil (osebnih in tovornjakov) od 2009 do 2014 za od oka 9%. Leta 2015 je prodal okoli 3 milijone vozil. 9% je 270.000. Se pravi, kot bi dal na cesto 270.000 električnih vozil.

WarpedGone je 9. okt 2016 ob 13:32 izjavil:

Ford je zmanjšal izpuste CO2 svojih vozil (osebnih in tovornjakov) od 2009 do 2014 za od oka 9%. Leta 2015 je prodal okoli 3 milijone vozil. 9% je 270.000. Se pravi, kot bi dal na cesto 270.000 električnih vozil.

Končno nekaj konkretnega.
Okej, z 5.9 milijardami posojila je uspel sproducirat 'ekvivalent' 270k EVjev.
Tesla je z 14x manj denarja na cesto postavil ~2,7x manj EVjev, oz. je dobljen denar izkoristil 5x bolje.

Maš ti info, da obstaja neka fizikalna zakonitost, ki bi to onemogočala?

Sam proizvodno linijo preuredijo.

nevone je 9. okt 2016 ob 15:03 izjavil:

Maš info od kje bodo dobili 10x več baterij kot tesla?

Ford bo kupu Teslo.

o+ nevone

Okapi je 9. okt 2016 ob 14:46 izjavil:

Maš ti info, da obstaja neka fizikalna zakonitost, ki bi to onemogočala?

Očitno res misliš, da je Musk čudodelnik in da nihče drug ni sposoben narediti gigatovarne. Ali deset gigatovarn.

Okapi je 9. okt 2016 ob 15:42 izjavil:

Brane22 je 9. okt 2016 ob 15:10 izjavil:

Pa saj tudi vzornikovi ( Nikola) overall dobički niso bili nevemkaj, pa je vstopil med legende, ki bodo živele še dolgo.

Saj menda je Musk res na dobri poti, da bo na stara leta postal čudak, kot Nikola ali recimo Howard Hughes.

WarpedGone je 9. okt 2016 ob 18:05 izjavil:

Še več FUDa... jutri lahko v zemljo trešči meteorit in pofenta 76,6% marjetic!!!111enaenaena

Če so se kej zmenil, bi pričakoval vsaj to, da so se zmenil za 'pametno' pogodbo.
Al pa te nujno nucajo za svetovalca, nesposobni kot so. Ali pač ne?

Torej, Tesla ima sklenjene direktne pogodbe z rudniki.
Kaj pa konkurenca? LG CHem? Opevani 10x večji Ford?

Model S Classic, with a V8. No push rods just a good clean quad cam, chain driven, 32V V8 featuring eco torque sleep cruise mode using just 1 active cylinder. Will have a huge flywheel for regen effect. No frunk and good old 70:30 weight distribution with entertaining RWD handling. Auto pilot will be dollar-aware and reroute via cheapest gas stations. No ludicrous mode as such, but buyers can upgrade to the 'mildly nuts supercharger' with realistic belt-whine sound effects. Autopilot consist of inflatable passenger holding a map with optional $1k deluxe compass. TACC uses a front mounted cattle prod.

I simply could not disagree with the author of this article more. Whilst I have never had the good fortune to be able to afford to fly an aircraft expensive enough to be equipped with autopilot, I, too, am a pilot and also a Model S owner with some 5 thousand miles of Autopilot experience. I did not see how much experience of it the author has. The oddest thing about the article is that the author refers to having to work harder with Autopilot on than off. This is completely potty!

Clearly the author has precisely zero understanding of just how much - albeit subconscious - brain and muscle activity is going on driving a car manually. You only have to remember how much concentration driving took when you were a learner-driver to know this is true (and if you can't remember, just look at the next driver of a car being driven by a learner and see for yourself). The fact that, with experience, it appears that this activity diminishes is as irrelevant as it is false. You only have to go on a very long drive to find out for yourself, otherwise why would you feel so tired after having basically sat on your arris for hours on end?

In fact if you consider what an aircraft autopilot does and compare it with what Tesla's Autopilot does, the similarities are very obvious. Neither device allows you to 'fall asleep' without the danger of catastrophe but both allow you to concentrate on potential dangers of flying/driving over and above simply maintaining a lane and/or a speed/safety gap.

Anyway, if CA wants to be so pinickety to ban the use of the word 'autopilot' let it go right ahead. No-one will care (except the lawyers), semi-autonomous driving aides like Autopilot will continue to advance and be used regardless and lives will continue to be saved.

WarpedGone je 10. okt 2016 ob 11:20 izjavil:

I simply could not disagree with the author of this article more. Whilst I have never had the good fortune to be able to afford to fly an aircraft expensive enough to be equipped with autopilot, I, too, am a pilot and also a Model S owner with some 5 thousand miles of Autopilot experience. I did not see how much experience of it the author has. The oddest thing about the article is that the author refers to having to work harder with Autopilot on than off. This is completely potty!

Clearly the author has precisely zero understanding of just how much - albeit subconscious - brain and muscle activity is going on driving a car manually. You only have to remember how much concentration driving took when you were a learner-driver to know this is true (and if you can't remember, just look at the next driver of a car being driven by a learner and see for yourself). The fact that, with experience, it appears that this activity diminishes is as irrelevant as it is false. You only have to go on a very long drive to find out for yourself, otherwise why would you feel so tired after having basically sat on your arris for hours on end?

In fact if you consider what an aircraft autopilot does and compare it with what Tesla's Autopilot does, the similarities are very obvious. Neither device allows you to 'fall asleep' without the danger of catastrophe but both allow you to concentrate on potential dangers of flying/driving over and above simply maintaining a lane and/or a speed/safety gap.

Anyway, if CA wants to be so pinickety to ban the use of the word 'autopilot' let it go right ahead. No-one will care (except the lawyers), semi-autonomous driving aides like Autopilot will continue to advance and be used regardless and lives will continue to be saved.

WarpedGone je 9. okt 2016 ob 11:43 izjavil:

Na kakšnem nivoju so recimo performanse 100k vrednega BMW ali Mercedesa?
Pod nivojem 60k vredne tesle.

Yes, it was heavy. Yes, it had almost no mechanical grip. And yes, the steering was as numb as my jaw after a trip to the dentist. However, considering that the Model S is a brand new car, from a car company that didn't exist 10 years ago, using technology that had (at the time of founding of the company) never been successfully mass produced on any large scale, I am suitably impressed.

WarpedGone je 10. okt 2016 ob 11:44 izjavil:

Nisi odgovoril: zakaj je taksist na koncu dneva utrujen, po 10ih minutah vožnje pa ne?

Okapi je 10. okt 2016 ob 11:47 izjavil:

Eni bodo še hudo razočarani. Ne reče se kar brezveze, da se žene in avta ne posoja.

WarpedGone je 10. okt 2016 ob 11:51 izjavil:

OK, minimalni nivo intelekta ni izkazan. Over and out.

Pointless točka.

Na kakšnem nivoju so recimo performanse 100k vrednega BMW ali Mercedesa?
Pod nivojem 60k vredne tesle.

WarpedGone je 10. okt 2016 ob 12:04 izjavil:

da si malo ude pretegnem

Čemu, če si "prav nič zmatran"?
Tvoja logična enota nuca nujen servis.

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