The Odyssey (Cristopher Nolan)

Hja ne moreš se na eni strani bunit čez zgodovinsko nenatančnost v pravljici... Na drugi strani pa dopuščat pravljična bitja. Vsaj ne brez da izpadeš skrajno neresno in naivno.

Pithlit je danes ob 12:35:34 izjavil:

Hja ne moreš se na eni strani bunit čez zgodovinsko nenatančnost v pravljici... Na drugi strani pa dopuščat pravljična bitja. Vsaj ne brez da izpadeš skrajno neresno in naivno.

Povej vsaj eno oddano vrednost pri castingu Pejga za grškega bojevnika in Lupito za Heleno.
Kaj ona dva prineseta filmu toliko več po tvoje ,kot če bi zbrali svetlolaso Heleno kot je zapisano v pesmi ali tapravga deca kateri bi lahko bil podoben grškemu bojevniku.

... in spet je tu MOTU, kjer se mišic ne sramujemo

Gregor P je danes ob 13:00:16 izjavil:

... in spet je tu MOTU, kjer se mišic ne sramujemo

Ja, pa MOTU je fajn.

Pa če se fikcija dogaja v realnem svetu, zakaj je tako čudno potem pričakovati točnost vsaj v tem delu. Saj tudi vesoljci pridejo na Zemljo, pa ta ni iz paralelnega vesolja. Večinoma vsaj.

Lahko bi pa le knjižni predlogi sledili...


Lepo vsaj da se strinjamo da Eliot in Lupita nista ok izbiri. Kvote za oskarja in še kaj.

On je izvorni avtor, njegova odločitev. Kot ste že rekli, njegovo delo ni dokumentarec. Pa še vedno so vsa obdobja grška in postavljena v realni svet in v nobenega ne spada črna Helena.

Če pa delaš film po knjižni priredbi in govoriš, da bi ji rad bil zvest...

delavec44 je danes ob 14:41:02 izjavil:

On je izvorni avtor, njegova odločitev. Kot ste že rekli, njegovo delo ni dokumentarec. Pa še vedno so vsa obdobja grška in postavljena v realni svet in v nobenega ne spada črna Helena.

Če pa delaš film po knjižni priredbi in govoriš, da bi ji rad bil zvest...

Ja sam tudi velikani pa bogovi pa čarovnice in morske deklice ne spadajo v realni svet.

Ali ipak...

kretence je danes ob 14:47:49 izjavil:

nejclp je danes ob 14:35:54 izjavil:

delavec44 je danes ob 14:04:11 izjavil:

Lahko bi pa le knjižni predlogi sledili...

Saj je bil Homer v Odiseji sam anahronističen, mešal je različna obdobja, ob dogajanju postavljenem v mikensko bronasto dobo, omenja orožje, običaje, navade, odnose, hrano, značilne za čas, v katerem je živel. Mislim, a veste, takrat je pesnil za "moderno občinstvo".

Potem naj Nolan tudi modernizira film, in vrže noter brzostrelke in motorne čolne z gps pa je Odisej doma v 1 uri namesto 10 let, filma je konc v 5 minutah, zakaj se mora revež mučit z vikingško ladjo in srednjeveškimi oklepi

izjemno duhovito. napiši pitch za kakšen Hwood studio, k tiste idiotske parodije dela, kot je tazaden Scary Movie.

oo7 je 6. jul 2026 ob 21:41:41 izjavil:

Evo še Odyssey film iz TEMUja :)

THE ODYSSEY | Official Trailer (2026) 4K

Še en film Odisej iz Temuja ?

ODYSSEUS: The Fall | Official Announcement Teaser


Odysseus: The Fall is a 135-minute, fully AI-generated feature film directed by Ash Koosha and produced by the AI film studio Fountain 0. It offers an experimental, alternate retelling of Homer's epic poem, framing the hero's journey home as the fractured memory of a drowning man in his final minutes.

^Dotična gospodična:

Other scholars criticized Wilson's translation as a deviation from the content of the original. South African scholar Richard Whitaker wrote that "The two great novelties of Wilson's Odyssey are the way she represents a group of characters that we might term 'underdogs' – notably the Cyclops, and the suitors and their allies – in a sympathetic light, while representing Odysseus as, on balance, reprehensible. The big problem, however, with Wilson's heterodox approach to the characters of the Odyssey is that she can sustain it only by distorting and misrepresenting what the Greek text says."[20] Whitaker argued that Wilson "makes no effort to overcome her obvious, and personal, but anachronistic, biases."

TLDR: nekakšna feminiska, ki sovraži moške do te mere, da hoče spremenit celo zgodovino. Hmm, na koga iz tega foruma me že to spominja...

Pizda ste dobri, da Odisejo prebirate in to od različnih prevajalcev, sem kr fouš, k ste taki intelektualci in poznavalci.

Film mora slediti izvirniku ne pa kar enemu "prevodu" kjer je pol stvari spremenjenih. Nolan je tu pač zajebal in nima kaj govoriti, da je želel biti avtentičen.

Kaj ti misliš, če obstaja 100+ prevodov na svetu, ki so bolj ali manj točni in eden čuden, verjetno je ta čuden pravilen.

Če dela Literal Adaptation, kot pravi, potem nima kaj dosti spreminjati. Če pa dela Transposition ali Loose Adaptation pa naj. Malo čudno je interpretirati belo za črno.

delavec44 je danes ob 17:14:53 izjavil:

Kaj ti misliš, če obstaja 100+ prevodov na svetu, ki so bolj ali manj točni in eden čuden, verjetno je ta čuden pravilen.

Če dela Literal Adaptation, kot pravi, potem nima kaj dosti spreminjati. Če pa dela Transposition ali Loose Adaptation pa naj. Malo čudno je interpretirati belo za črno.

Nima veze kateri je najbolj pravilen. Vzel je pač tistega ki mu je najbolj sedel.

Pa lahko je delal literal adaptation dotičnega izvoda. Jaz ne vem, nisem ne brala ne gledala. Jazona vprašaj kolk se drži predloge.

delavec44 je danes ob 17:06:02 izjavil:

Film mora slediti izvirniku ne pa kar enemu "prevodu" kjer je pol stvari spremenjenih. Nolan je tu pač zajebal in nima kaj govoriti, da je želel biti avtentičen.

Prepozni ste borci proti umetniški svobodi, jebiga. Morte se vrnt k terminator v preteklost pa najprej preprečit prevod, de rešite nolana pa homerja pe čast od laboda spočete pičketine. Od vas je odvisna prihodnost bele civilizacije

Pithlit je danes ob 14:51:16 izjavil:

delavec44 je danes ob 14:41:02 izjavil:

On je izvorni avtor, njegova odločitev. Kot ste že rekli, njegovo delo ni dokumentarec. Pa še vedno so vsa obdobja grška in postavljena v realni svet in v nobenega ne spada črna Helena.

Če pa delaš film po knjižni priredbi in govoriš, da bi ji rad bil zvest...

Ja sam tudi velikani pa bogovi pa čarovnice in morske deklice ne spadajo v realni svet.

Ali ipak...

Ne razumem kaj ti ni jasno tukaj

To da hocemo realen prikaz tistega casa in zmesamo z mitskimi pravljicnimi bitji in bogovi v nicemer ne izkljucuje eno ali drugo od teh dveh tock

Ko v filmu pridejo nezemljani na Zemljo je se vedno nas cas prikazan z trenutnim otozjem ne pa 500 let v preteklost se ti ne zdi

To da so not vesoljci nima nobene veze kako je doba v kateri se dogaja abtenticno ali ne prikazana

Mato989 je danes ob 18:35:40 izjavil:

Pithlit je danes ob 14:51:16 izjavil:

delavec44 je danes ob 14:41:02 izjavil:

On je izvorni avtor, njegova odločitev. Kot ste že rekli, njegovo delo ni dokumentarec. Pa še vedno so vsa obdobja grška in postavljena v realni svet in v nobenega ne spada črna Helena.

Če pa delaš film po knjižni priredbi in govoriš, da bi ji rad bil zvest...

Ja sam tudi velikani pa bogovi pa čarovnice in morske deklice ne spadajo v realni svet.

Ali ipak...

Ne razumem kaj ti ni jasno tukaj

Meni pa ni jasno zakaj tolk u luft skačete okoli ene prevljice katere stvaritelj vam ni ama ništa dolžan. In vas absolutno noben ne sili tega dreka it gledat.

Pač ostani doma in ignoriraj. Svet bo lepši. Boli te kurac za nekega Nolana, Lupito, Elliota in Pithlita. Pač je drek. Ne gledat. Enostavno ko pasulj iz konzerve.

Za vse, ki vas je pred premiero skrbela zgodovinska natančnost v zgodbi o enookih kiklopih, morskih pošastih in čarovnicah, ki spreminjajo moške v svinje,... kritiki pravijo, da je zasedba vrhunska in da film meji na popolnost. Mogoče je čas, da namesto barve kože in mišic začnete ocenjevati igro.

Odysseus, king of Ithaca, embarks on a perilous journey to return home after the Trojan War.

Director: Sir Christopher Nolan

Cast: Matt Damon, Anne Hathaway, Tom Holland, Robert Pattinson, Jon Bernthal, Himesh Patel, Charlize Theron, Zendaya, John Leguizamo, Lupita Nyong'o, Benny Safdie, Samantha Morton, Elliot Page, Mia Goth, Ryan Hurst, James Remar, Bill Irwin, Logan Marshall-Green, Corey Hawkins, Jovan Adepo, Jesse Garcia, Will Yun Lee, Shiloh Fernandez

Runtime: 172 minutes

Rating: 'R'

Rotten Tomatoes: 99%

Metacritic: 91 / 100

Some Reviews (UPDATING LIVE):

The Globe and Mail - Radheyan Simonpillai - 100 / 100 ("Critic's Pick")

Christopher Nolan has delivered an awe-inspiring spectacle. In The Odyssey, he moves through past and present, not searching for reveals in a 3,000-year-old text that can't be spoiled, but as a poetic and emotional catharsis, a way of navigating guilt and grief that resonates powerfully, perhaps as much as it ever did.
RogerEbert - Matt Zoller Seitz - 100 / 100

The movie doesn't give us any ChatGPT study guide summaries of what it all means. It presents Odysseus' choices, laudable and horrible, just as things that happened, with implications that both the hero and the audience must grapple with, including the question of whether we make our decisions, or our decisions make us. The grand summation could be "people are complicated." That sounds rather basic. But it feels revolutionary when it's encoded in a rare modern blockbuster that doesn't feed us lotus flowers.
Arizona Republic - Bill Goodykoontz - 100 / 100

'The Odyssey' is the best movie of 2026. Haters should just go see it | A star-studded triumph that is at once overwhelming and accessible.
The Atlantic - David Sims - 100 / 100

Odysseus is flawed, sometimes impulsively proud, and haunted by his past failures--as well as generous and loving in a way that Nolan seems to want to celebrate. The filmmaker created a movie that does exactly that, keeping the necessary mythic scale but preserving the humanity at the center.
Empire Magazine - John Nugent - 10 / 10

A worthy new translation of an ancient text, and yet another monumental piece of work from one of our boldest filmmakers. Watch it on the most colossal screen you can find.
The Playlist - Rodrigo Perez - 100 / 100

For all its monsters, gods, armies, and thunder, "The Odyssey" finds its grandest image in a man confronting the dark mirror of what he has wrought. Nolan's massive achievement understands that home is a place, a family, a memory, and a judgment. Odysseus may still recognize Ithaca when he reaches its shores. The more frightening question is whether Ithaca will recognize him.
Esquire - Anthony Breznican - 100 / 100

Christopher Nolan's stone-cold masterpiece might just change your life. The Oscar-winning Oppenheimer director has richly adapted the ancient Greek epic into a modern search for meaning.
Total Film - Jordan Farley - 100 / 100

A grounded, spiritual, uncanny rendering of Greek myth, The Odyssey is a dazzling epic and a major film-of-the-year contender. Post-Oppenheimer, Christopher Nolan continues to operate at the height of his filmmaking powers.
NY Post - Johnny Olkesinski - 10 / 10

Who better to adapt an epic poem than Nolan, a man who unearths poetry in all of his epics? Here, he did not set out to use Greek myths as the foundation for a basic action movie, as so many do. Instead he dives into the psychology and moral thorniness of Odysseus' plight.
San Fransisco Chronicle - G. Allen Johnson - 10 / 10

For all its modern filmmaking techniques, "The Odyssey" is a throwback to the mid-20th century, when Cinemascope was new and epics were event pictures. It's a magnificent achievement.
The Telegraph - Robbie Collin - 100 / 100

Nolan and his collaborators have constructed a strange, fearsome and trailblazing machine of a movie - by some distance, the best of the year so far. Its creator is known for playing tricks with time, and this may be his grandest yet: turning one of the oldest stories in literature into a vote of confidence in blockbuster cinema's future.
Time Out - Phil De Semlyen - 100 / 100

In standard 70mm, the voyage is breathtaking; in IMAX, you're tasting the salt water. Even among all the truck flips, atomic explosions and rotating corridors of his back catalogue, this film is the apogee of Nolan's 'do it in camera' ethos, and the sense that this was a shoot with no comfort zone pervades every frame.
Screen Rant - Alex Harrison - 10 / 10

Cutting out the middleman of Homer's oral narrator, Nolan has brought us very close to these characters, immersing us as much as possible in their experience. In doing so, he has managed to capture the story's full scope. Odysseus' journey conveys the weight of its arduous years. The film's conclusion, told with a steady, patient hand, feels like a payoff 20 years in the making.
Jeremy Jahns - JeremyJahnsCom - 'Awesometacular'

It's epic. It's heartfelt. It's soulful. It's tragic. It even made me laugh at times.
The Guardian - Peter Bradshaw - 5 / 5

The result is a gigantic, shimmering mirage, a mysterious three-hour vision of crazy episodes that does not yield up wisdom or contentment, but only a grim resolution to continue with the fight, to make sense of ruined lives, to re-enter the scorched battlefield of loss.
The Independent - Clarisse Loughrey - 5 / 5

Christopher Nolan's massive, fearless adaptation is his best film to date. There are touches of 'Oppenheimer', 'Memento' and even his Batman movies in this enormous condensing of the British filmmaker's fixations, brought to life by a cast of seemingly thousands - but it's the women (among them Anne Hathaway and Samantha Morton) who steal the show
USA Today - Brian Truitt - 100 / 100

Christopher Nolan's 'The Odyssey' is bold, brutal masterpiece. Matt Damon is legendary as Greek warrior Odysseus and Christopher Nolan lives up to Homer's epic status in his awesome adaptation of "The Odyssey."
Next Best Picture - Matt Neglia - 10 / 10

A colossal achievement of scale, even by Nolan's standards. This is as epic as movies get, with some of the most breathtaking set pieces you'll ever see. I grew up loving grand, sword and action dramas such as "Gladiator," "Braveheart," "The Last Samurai," and yes, even "Troy." I'm beyond thrilled to say Nolan's ambitious dissection of myth and legend looms large over them all. Whether you experience it in IMAX or a standard theater, this is the kind of filmmaking and storytelling that we rarely see anymore and deserves to be honored.
Huffington Post - Maxime Birken - 5 / 5

(Reviewed in French) As epic as it is tragic, the journey of Ulysses, embodied by Matt Damon, is a new peak in the career of one of the greatest filmmakers of his time. With all these qualities, L'Odyssée is instantly ranked among the best-made and most striking modern cinematic works. So much so that the desire to start the conversation about the place that this film can occupy in the filmography of Christopher Nolan himself intrigues us greatly. If it will take time to decide on the posterity of L'Odyssée, it is not an exaggeration to place it now among one of the best feature films of its director. From that to say that it could be his best film? We are not far from saying that.
IndieWire - David Ehrlich - 'A-'

Christopher Nolan has defied the gods with one of his best movies ever.
Watson - Simone Meier - 10 / 10

(Reviewed in German) "The Odyssey" may be one of Christopher Nolan's best films, on par with "Inception" and "Interstellar," in terms of the density of his vision and its seduction. Extremely supple one is sucked into this ancient universe, succumbs to it, becomes part of it. After that you are spit back on the street and at best you don't know where you are now and what this present is supposed to be...
Premiere - Aurélien Allin - 10 / 10

Prodigous. A masterclass in filmmaking, on a crazy scale. Each second filled by astonishing images, Christopher Nolan's new film is part of the thematic lineage of DUNKIRK and OPPENHEIMER, and the faults of what man has unleashed.
Consequence - Liz Shannon Miller - 'A-'

The director's highly anticipated follow-up to Oppenheimer is a true blank check moment, an opportunity for Nolan to explore the concept of war as not an opportunity for glory, but as a corrosive element that tears both societies and people apart.
Le Parisien - Renaud Baronian - 5 / 5

It is not easy to make the epic poem of Homer: few filmmakers dared to tackle it. We can now say: "The Odyssey" by Christopher Nolan, in theaters this week, should go down as one of his masterpieces. Respecting the spirit and unfolding of the story of Homer, masterfully filmed, remarkably interpreted, this new film will be a landmark.
AV Club - Monica Castillo - 'A-'

The movie's sense of spectacle is part of its appeal, and Nolan serves it up even better than expected. The scale of the production is breathtaking, but it's also a morality play writ large, a game of politics and succession, a warning about temptation and greed, a plea for kindness in a harsh world. The way Nolan brings everything together is a meeting of old and new Hollywood, a nod to the spectacles of yesteryear that thrilled audiences for generations combined with new techniques and tools to remind us all that there are more ways to keep pushing the medium--even with the classics.
The Wrap - William Bibbiani - 95 / 100

You can't say Hollywood doesn't make them like this anymore. Nobody ever did.
The Irish Times - Donald Clarke - 4.5 / 5

Set aside any doubts. This star-studded film is Christopher Nolan at his best. This take on Homer's classic - with a celebrity cast including Matt Damon, Tom Holland and Zendaya - should win over even the most passionate sceptics
DiscussingFilm - Andrew J Salazar - 4.5 / 5

The Odyssey taps into a visceral level of fear that Nolan hasn't really explored before. Not just fear of the unknown, but also fear of fellow man. Matt Damon's Odysseus must come to terms with his previous sins in order to face the consequences of his future. As Nolan explores his fading memories and the time lost to war, traces of Inception and Memento can be felt. Damon marvelously makes the mythic hero all his own, though.
OutNow - Chris Schelb - 10 / 10

Mere nitpicks aside, everything in Nolan's latest comes together wonderfully, with the film coming rather close to the Olympus of cinematic epics. Ultimately, it matters little how one interprets the whole business with the mythical creatures: The Odyssey is fantastic either way.
Slant Magazine - Jake Cole - 3.5 / 4

The Odyssey is both faithful and deconstructive, embodying the fluidity of the oral tradition that spawned the poem and kept it alive for millennia through shifting tastes and values.
Collider - Joe Schmidt - 9 / 10

Nolan prides himself on being a storyteller, and here he pays tribute to the medium that made him a prolific figure in pop culture. He wouldn't be here without a story to tell, so it's only fitting that he has told a story that has endured throughout the eons as only he can. The fact that he executed it at this level is certainly a feat that others will tell their own stories about.
Associated Press - Jake Coyle - 9 / 10

Nolan's "Odyssey" is nearly three hours long but never slow going. And it's the friction between past and present that propels the movie as much as Odysseus' wayward path.
IGN France - Nanix - 9 / 10

Above all, with Odyssey, Nolan reminds us of his Batman: brilliantly adapt a work known to all, rewrite it according to his convictions and his vision and make a legend a legend above all human, realistic and anchored by his words, a success. A jewel of modern cinema.
AltFilm - Tim Cogshell

Christopher Nolan's latest cinematic event is perfectly good. And yet, its one truly remarkable achievement is not the drama, the direction, the acting, the cinematography, or the visual effects - but the sound design.
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kow je danes ob 19:07:13 izjavil:

esel je danes ob 18:55:36 izjavil:

Za vse, ki vas je pred premiero skrbela zgodovinska natančnost v zgodbi o enookih kiklopih, morskih pošastih in čarovnicah, ki spreminjajo moške v svinje,... kritiki pravijo, da je zasedba vrhunska in da film meji na popolnost. Mogoče je čas, da namesto barve kože in mišic začnete ocenjevati igro.

Za kritike so itak vsi vrhunski. V resnici je res dobrih igralcev zelo malo. Gre bolj za dober casting. Bomo videli.

Da film po enem ogledu proglasis za masterpiece, je ponavadi zelo nekredibilno. Ogromno filmov se hitro postara. Ampak ja, kinematografija bo tezko slaba.

"The Odyssey' is the best movie of 2026." Ta je tudi smesna. Saj letos na kino sporedih sploh nisem videl enega resnega (hollywoodskega) filma.

Kako gre za dober casting, če so pa do včeraj vsi slotech poznavalci in režiserji s kavča trdili, da je casting popoln polom?

Meni je tale dober:

Jeffrey Lyles
Lyles' Movie Files
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Fresh score.
10/10
The Odyssey is operating on a scope and scale that few films can even orbit let alone touch.

American Beauty je masterpiece

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