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Prošnja: nov računalnik se ugaša in zmrzuje
luckysmiley ::
Pozdravljeni,
prosim za pomoč pri odpravljanju težave.
Računalnik se naključno restarta (pojavi se Blue screen of death) ter občasno zmrzne (pomaga samo izklop).
Temperature so ok (CPU cca 50 stopinj, grafična cca 30).
To se dogaja pri minimalni obremenitvi - obremenjeval ga še nisem.
Poleg sistema sem instaliral le gonilnike, Mozillo ter Epic games (brez iger).
Vse komponente so nove, edino grafična je vzeta iz starega pc-ja, kjer je delovala brez težav.
Os. plošča: Gigabyte Aorus B450 Pro
Procesor: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 (hitrost mu "skače" 3.6Ghz do 4.2Ghz)
Ram: 2x8 GB g.skill AEGIS 3200
Disk: Cruical P2 1TB M.2NVME
Napajalnik: BeQuiet 700W
Grafična: Gigabyte GTX 750 Ti 2Gb
Sistem: Win 10
Priklopljene imam osnovne naprave (tipkovnica, miš, slušalke, kontroler) ter TP Link wifi modul.
Če kaj pomaga prilagam analizo, ki jo je opravil program WhoCrashed.
V naprej hvala za pomoč
Andrej
System Information (local)
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Computer name: DESKTOP-8FQ91O3
Windows version: Windows 10, 10.0, version 2009, build: 19042
Windows dir: C:\Windows
Hardware: B450 AORUS PRO, Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd., B450 AORUS PRO-CF
CPU: AuthenticAMD AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-Core Processor 8664, level: 23
12 logical processors, active mask: 4095
RAM: 17125625856 bytes (15,9GB)
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Crash Dump Analysis
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Crash dumps are enabled on your computer.
Crash dump directories:
C:\Windows
C:\Windows\Minidump
On Tue 17/11/2020 15:28:47 your computer crashed or a problem was reported
crash dump file: C:\Windows\Minidump\111720-4234-01.dmp
This was probably caused by the following module: amdppm.sys (amdppm+0x2ec7)
Bugcheck code: 0x101 (0x10, 0x0, 0xFFFF950190198180, 0x5)
Error: CLOCK_WATCHDOG_TIMEOUT
file path: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\amdppm.sys
product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
company: Microsoft Corporation
description: Processor Device Driver
Bug check description: This indicates that an expected clock interrupt on a secondary processor, in a multi-processor system, was not received within the allocated interval. This can be caused by non-responding hardware or by a overheated CPU (thermal issue).
The crash took place in a Microsoft module. The description of the module may give a hint about a non responding device in the system.
On Tue 17/11/2020 15:28:47 your computer crashed or a problem was reported
crash dump file: C:\Windows\MEMORY.DMP
This was probably caused by the following module: cpuz150_x64.sys (cpuz150_x64+0x1da8)
Bugcheck code: 0x101 (0x10, 0x0, 0xFFFF950190198180, 0x5)
Error: CLOCK_WATCHDOG_TIMEOUT
file path: C:\Windows\temp\cpuz150\cpuz150_x64.sys
product: CPUID service
company: CPUID
description: CPUID Driver
Bug check description: This indicates that an expected clock interrupt on a secondary processor, in a multi-processor system, was not received within the allocated interval. This can be caused by non-responding hardware or by a overheated CPU (thermal issue).
A third party driver was identified as the probable root cause of this system error. It is suggested you look for an update for the following driver: cpuz150_x64.sys (CPUID Driver, CPUID).
Google query: cpuz150_x64.sys CPUID CLOCK_WATCHDOG_TIMEOUT
On Tue 17/11/2020 13:31:07 your computer crashed or a problem was reported
crash dump file: C:\Windows\Minidump\111720-4437-01.dmp
This was probably caused by the following module: ntoskrnl.exe (nt+0x3F5210)
Bugcheck code: 0x1 (0x7FFBDF9CBE24, 0x0, 0xFFFF, 0xFFFF9884C232FB80)
Error: APC_INDEX_MISMATCH
file path: C:\Windows\system32\ntoskrnl.exe
product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
company: Microsoft Corporation
description: NT Kernel & System
Bug check description: This indicates that there has been a mismatch in the APC state index.
This appears to be a typical software driver bug and is not likely to be caused by a hardware problem.
The crash took place in the Windows kernel. Possibly this problem is caused by another driver that cannot be identified at this time.
prosim za pomoč pri odpravljanju težave.
Računalnik se naključno restarta (pojavi se Blue screen of death) ter občasno zmrzne (pomaga samo izklop).
Temperature so ok (CPU cca 50 stopinj, grafična cca 30).
To se dogaja pri minimalni obremenitvi - obremenjeval ga še nisem.
Poleg sistema sem instaliral le gonilnike, Mozillo ter Epic games (brez iger).
Vse komponente so nove, edino grafična je vzeta iz starega pc-ja, kjer je delovala brez težav.
Os. plošča: Gigabyte Aorus B450 Pro
Procesor: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 (hitrost mu "skače" 3.6Ghz do 4.2Ghz)
Ram: 2x8 GB g.skill AEGIS 3200
Disk: Cruical P2 1TB M.2NVME
Napajalnik: BeQuiet 700W
Grafična: Gigabyte GTX 750 Ti 2Gb
Sistem: Win 10
Priklopljene imam osnovne naprave (tipkovnica, miš, slušalke, kontroler) ter TP Link wifi modul.
Če kaj pomaga prilagam analizo, ki jo je opravil program WhoCrashed.
V naprej hvala za pomoč
Andrej
System Information (local)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Computer name: DESKTOP-8FQ91O3
Windows version: Windows 10, 10.0, version 2009, build: 19042
Windows dir: C:\Windows
Hardware: B450 AORUS PRO, Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd., B450 AORUS PRO-CF
CPU: AuthenticAMD AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-Core Processor 8664, level: 23
12 logical processors, active mask: 4095
RAM: 17125625856 bytes (15,9GB)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Crash Dump Analysis
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Crash dumps are enabled on your computer.
Crash dump directories:
C:\Windows
C:\Windows\Minidump
On Tue 17/11/2020 15:28:47 your computer crashed or a problem was reported
crash dump file: C:\Windows\Minidump\111720-4234-01.dmp
This was probably caused by the following module: amdppm.sys (amdppm+0x2ec7)
Bugcheck code: 0x101 (0x10, 0x0, 0xFFFF950190198180, 0x5)
Error: CLOCK_WATCHDOG_TIMEOUT
file path: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\amdppm.sys
product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
company: Microsoft Corporation
description: Processor Device Driver
Bug check description: This indicates that an expected clock interrupt on a secondary processor, in a multi-processor system, was not received within the allocated interval. This can be caused by non-responding hardware or by a overheated CPU (thermal issue).
The crash took place in a Microsoft module. The description of the module may give a hint about a non responding device in the system.
On Tue 17/11/2020 15:28:47 your computer crashed or a problem was reported
crash dump file: C:\Windows\MEMORY.DMP
This was probably caused by the following module: cpuz150_x64.sys (cpuz150_x64+0x1da8)
Bugcheck code: 0x101 (0x10, 0x0, 0xFFFF950190198180, 0x5)
Error: CLOCK_WATCHDOG_TIMEOUT
file path: C:\Windows\temp\cpuz150\cpuz150_x64.sys
product: CPUID service
company: CPUID
description: CPUID Driver
Bug check description: This indicates that an expected clock interrupt on a secondary processor, in a multi-processor system, was not received within the allocated interval. This can be caused by non-responding hardware or by a overheated CPU (thermal issue).
A third party driver was identified as the probable root cause of this system error. It is suggested you look for an update for the following driver: cpuz150_x64.sys (CPUID Driver, CPUID).
Google query: cpuz150_x64.sys CPUID CLOCK_WATCHDOG_TIMEOUT
On Tue 17/11/2020 13:31:07 your computer crashed or a problem was reported
crash dump file: C:\Windows\Minidump\111720-4437-01.dmp
This was probably caused by the following module: ntoskrnl.exe (nt+0x3F5210)
Bugcheck code: 0x1 (0x7FFBDF9CBE24, 0x0, 0xFFFF, 0xFFFF9884C232FB80)
Error: APC_INDEX_MISMATCH
file path: C:\Windows\system32\ntoskrnl.exe
product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
company: Microsoft Corporation
description: NT Kernel & System
Bug check description: This indicates that there has been a mismatch in the APC state index.
This appears to be a typical software driver bug and is not likely to be caused by a hardware problem.
The crash took place in the Windows kernel. Possibly this problem is caused by another driver that cannot be identified at this time.
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hojnikb ::
Procesor: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 (hitrost mu "skače" 3.6Ghz do 4.2Ghz)
to je normalno
najverjetneje ti rami ne delajo stabilno. daj na 2133mt in porocaj kako bo
#brezpodpisa
luckysmiley ::
Hvala za odgovor.
Sem preveril v biosu in imam že po defaultu "Extreme memory multiply" disabled in nastavljeno na 2133 Mhz.
Sem preveril v biosu in imam že po defaultu "Extreme memory multiply" disabled in nastavljeno na 2133 Mhz.
hojnikb ::
potem pa posodobi bios. Ce to ne pomaga, poskusi z eno palcko rama naenkrat.
#brezpodpisa
luckysmiley ::
Po dolgem času mali update.
Za en dan sem si uspel sposodit star napajalnik (500W) iz drugega pc-ja in računalnik je deloval ok.
Tudi ko sem zopet priklopil prvi napajalnik, blue screenov ni bilo več.
Se pa sedaj vsake toliko (npr. 1x dnevno) pri normalnem delu računalnik "delno obesi":
V taskbaru ostanejo ikonice zaprtih programov, na namizju pa kdaj ostane slika ali logo zaprtega programa.
Do shutdown menija lahko pridem, vendar ne odreagira - takrat moram računalnik izklopit z gumbom.
Bios sem posodobil, gonilniki so posodobljeni (DriverEasy).
Je še vedno lahko vzrok nestabilen Ram ?
Hvala in LP
Za en dan sem si uspel sposodit star napajalnik (500W) iz drugega pc-ja in računalnik je deloval ok.
Tudi ko sem zopet priklopil prvi napajalnik, blue screenov ni bilo več.
Se pa sedaj vsake toliko (npr. 1x dnevno) pri normalnem delu računalnik "delno obesi":
V taskbaru ostanejo ikonice zaprtih programov, na namizju pa kdaj ostane slika ali logo zaprtega programa.
Do shutdown menija lahko pridem, vendar ne odreagira - takrat moram računalnik izklopit z gumbom.
Bios sem posodobil, gonilniki so posodobljeni (DriverEasy).
Je še vedno lahko vzrok nestabilen Ram ?
Hvala in LP
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filip007 ::
Imaš zadnjo verzijo inštalacije?
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feryz ::
Bi rekel,da imaš s plato problem. Sem se zadnjič matral s podobno foro in je dejansko zalegla le menjava plate.
solatko ::
Za AMD-je si že prej težko dobil solidno matično, torej se trend nadaljuje.
Delo krepa človeka
IL_DIAVOLO ::
TheBlueOne ::
Poglej kaj je zadnje preden jedro izgubi elektriko v "event viewer"-ju. Znas dobiti kaksen namig.
Za hec lahko izkljucis varcevanje z energijo. Odkljukas, da nic ne hodi spat. Naprimer mrezne so kar pogost problem, da jih Winsi dajo spat, namesto da se zbudijo vse skupaj zablokira.
@Kvinta. Jaz imam nagledan RYZEN 5 5600. Katere plate so OK, katere niso?
Za hec lahko izkljucis varcevanje z energijo. Odkljukas, da nic ne hodi spat. Naprimer mrezne so kar pogost problem, da jih Winsi dajo spat, namesto da se zbudijo vse skupaj zablokira.
@Kvinta. Jaz imam nagledan RYZEN 5 5600. Katere plate so OK, katere niso?
luckysmiley ::
Hvala,
če ne bo šlo bom moral probat z drugo grafično.
Sem pa opazil, da mi je že 2x zmrznil, ko sem nastavljal uTorrent z desnim klikom (enkrat hitrost downloada, drugič nastavitve menijev v oknu). Obakrat mi je ostal del napisa (menija) na ekranu...
Morda kaka ideja, kaj bi lahko bilo narobe ?
Restart windows explorerja (v task managerju) ne reši problema...
Hvala :)
če ne bo šlo bom moral probat z drugo grafično.
Sem pa opazil, da mi je že 2x zmrznil, ko sem nastavljal uTorrent z desnim klikom (enkrat hitrost downloada, drugič nastavitve menijev v oknu). Obakrat mi je ostal del napisa (menija) na ekranu...
Morda kaka ideja, kaj bi lahko bilo narobe ?
Restart windows explorerja (v task managerju) ne reši problema...
Hvala :)
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shadeX ::
Assassub ::
Za vsak slučaj poskusi še z MemTest86 in poročaj. Sem pri nekem računalniku imel podoben problem, ko je naključno zmrzoval in metal BSOD, včasih pa več dni delal brez problema - na koncu se je izkazalo da je 1 ploščica problematična.
AMD Ryzen R7 3700X ~ B550 Aorus Elite ~ Corsair LPX 32GB 3600MHz CL18
Nvidia RTX 3060Ti Vision OC ~ Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB ~ Samsung 860 EVO 1TB
Seasonic Prime TX-650 Titanium ~ Phanteks P400A DRGB ~ Dell S3220DGF
Nvidia RTX 3060Ti Vision OC ~ Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB ~ Samsung 860 EVO 1TB
Seasonic Prime TX-650 Titanium ~ Phanteks P400A DRGB ~ Dell S3220DGF
solatko ::
luckysmiley - Verjetno je kak gonilnik za plato bugast. Kakšne so napetosti med obratovanjem, so stabilne ali nihajo 12, 5 in 3V?
shadeX - Zakaj pa kupuješ najcenejše plate? i7 950 na 1366 x58 mi brez problema dela že 12 let, večinoma 24/7. Kaj boš ali si kupil sedaj?
shadeX - Zakaj pa kupuješ najcenejše plate? i7 950 na 1366 x58 mi brez problema dela že 12 let, večinoma 24/7. Kaj boš ali si kupil sedaj?
Delo krepa človeka
shadeX ::
shadeX - Zakaj pa kupuješ najcenejše plate? i7 950 na 1366 x58 mi brez problema dela že 12 let, večinoma 24/7. Kaj boš ali si kupil sedaj?
Imam prenosnik tako da je nemogoče upgrejdat zadevo na zadovoljiv nivo (GPU in CPU). Dodal sem mu sicer SSD, ter nadgradil ram na 12GB. Procesor je Intel I7-4710HQ, 2.5GHz, z boostom do 3.5.
Sedaj sem kupil (še čakam komponente), Ryzen 3700X, 32GB 3200MHZ RAM, ter 1TB 2280 NVMe M.2.
Mislim da nekaj bi se moral poznat.
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solatko ::
shadeX - Zakaj si pa že takrat nisi sestavil računalnik, ne veš, da so prenosniki precej švohnej po performansah pa še toliko si ga plačal, da bi imel orng sistem za 10+ let, bi menjal samo grafike in diske.
Delo krepa človeka
shadeX ::
Sem potreboval dobro portable mašino, ker sem delal na več lokacijah, tako da namizni ni prišel v poštev. Je pa res da je 6 let dobro opravljal svoje delo.
Za casual uporabo je sicer še več kot odličen ampak za game dev je zadeva postala že izjemno počasna.
Za casual uporabo je sicer še več kot odličen ampak za game dev je zadeva postala že izjemno počasna.
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