» »

NBA sezona 2020-2021

NBA sezona 2020-2021

Temo vidijo: vsi
««
3 / 73
»»

Horas ::

https://www.rtvslo.si/sport/kosarka/lig...

dragic-podaljsal-pogodbo-z-miamijem-minuto-po-polnoci
8700k+z390, 16gb 3200mhz, 1080ti, 650w gold, 2x250gb m.2 nvme + 2tb hdd

8500+b360, 16gb 2666mhz, rx580 8gb, 600w bronze, 250gb ssd m.2 + 2tb hdd

RoccoC ::

James black belt Jonhson za Mavse, JuJa+Delon out. Če se vrne v formo kot je bil 2 leti nazaj v Miamiju bo kar dobro tole. JuJa in Delon tako fajn da sta šla...

Facundo v Denver, bo tudi zanimivo kako bo igral. Harrel v Fakerse, pravi k pravim...

Zgodovina sprememb…

  • spremenilo: RoccoC ()

Kurzweil ::

Evo, končno konkretne novice....

!!!!! - BREAKING: Goran Dragic has re-signed with the Miami Heat on a 2-year, $37.4M deal!

!!!!! - Pistons receive: Delon Wright
Thunder receive: Trevor Ariza, Justin Jackson, Pick
Mavericks receive: James Johnson


- BREAKING: Montrezl Harrell has signed a 2 year/ $19M deal with the Los Angeles Lakers!

- BREAKING: Dwight Howard signs a 1-year deal with the Philadelphia 76ers! Howard said he'd re-signed with the Los Angeles Lakers but backed out and went to Philly!

- Wesley Matthews has signed with the Los Angeles Lakers!

- Gordon Hayward is "fully focused" on signing with his hometown team, the Indiana Pacers.

- BREAKING: JaMychal Green has signed with the Denver Nuggets on a 2-year, $15 Million deal. Jerami Grant out, Green... IN!

- BREAKING: OKC traded Steven Adams to Pelicans for a 1st round pick and multiple 2nd round picks! OKC heard 'first round pick' and was all in

- BREAKING: Pat Connaughton re-signs with Milwaukee on a 2-year deal!

----

Nekako pričakovano Dragič ostaja v MIA, s tem da je plača še precej višja, kot se je špekuliralo! Dallas se je znebil Justina Jacksona in Delona Wrighta - odlično! Da gre Montrezl Harrell v LAL nisem pričakoval in zaradi okoliščin za samo 19M$ za dve sezoni, jasno tu ni več sallary capa, je pa borba za naslov! Dwight Howard v PHI, ki se je znebil mega preplačanega Horforda in dobil super poceni Howarda, ki bo na koncu verjetno bolj uporaben in koristen. Wesley Matthews gre v LAL, kar se je že govorilo, in kar sem tu že omenil, čakam še kaj bo z Rondom in Avery Bradleyejem pri LAL. Gordon Hayworda nisem pričakoval, da bo odšel iz BOS, še posebej ne v IND, ampak glede na to, da je to njegov domač klub, še gre nekako razumeti, me pa zanima če je po možnosti v igri še več denarja, kot je bilo za sicer kratkoročno pogodbo pri BOS. Iz OKH tudi Steven Adams, kot kaže so se odločili res popolnoma razpustit moštvo oz. it 100% na mlade in na draft picke v naslednjih letih. Na kratko...

Kurzweil ::

+ pa naj bo vse na kupu, dodajam še druge trade, nekak sem probal na vrhu dat večje trade oz. za nas bolj relavantne...

- Trey Burke has agreed to a three-year, $10 million deal with the Dallas Mavericks.

- Danilo Gallinari has agreed to a three-year, $61.5 million deal with the Atlanta Hawks.

- Meyers Leonard has agreed to re-sign with the Miami Heat on a 2-year, $20 million deal.

- Derrick Jones Jr. has agreed to a two-year, $19 million deal with the Portland Trail Blazers.

- Robin Lopez has agreed to a one-year deal with the Washington Wizards.

- Jakob Poeltl has agreed to a three-year, $27 million deal with the San Antonio Spurs.

- Marcus Morris has agreed to a four-year, $64 million deal with the Los Angeles Clippers.

- Justin Holiday has agreed to a three-year, $18 million deal with the Indiana Pacers.

- John Wall has requested a trade from the Washington Wizards.

- Jerami Grant has agreed to a three-year, $60 million deal with the Detroit Pistons.

- Joe Harris has agreed to a four-year, $75 million deal with the Brooklyn Nets.

- Davis Bertans has agreed to a five-year, $80 million deal with the Washington Wizards.

- De'Aaron Fox has agreed to a 5-year, $163 million contract extension with the Sacramento Kings.

- Garrett Temple has agreed to a one-year, $5 million deal with the Chicago Bulls.

- Christian Wood's deal with the Houston Rockets is three-years, $41 million. Wood is going to be part of a sign-and-trade deal.

- Jordan Clarkson has agreed to a four-year, $52 million deal with the Utah Jazz.

- Derrick Favors has agreed to a three-year, $30 million deal with the Utah Jazz.

- Wesley Matthews has agreed to a 1-year, $3.6 million deal with the Los Angeles Lakers.

- Alec Burks has agreed to a one-year, $6 million deal with the New York Knicks.

- Rodney Hood has agreed to a 2-year, $21 million deal with the Portland Trail Blazers.

- Christian Wood has agreed to a three-year, $27 million deal with the Houston Rockets.

- Malik Beasley has agreed to a four-year, $60 million deal with the Minnesota Timberwolves.

- Josh Jackson has agreed to sign with the Detroit Pistons.

- Patrick Patterson has agreed to re-sign with the Los Angeles Clippers on a 1-year deal.

- Jahlil Okafor has agreed to a two-year deal with the Detroit Pistons.

- Mason Plumlee has agreed to a three-year, $25 million deal with the Detroit Pistons.

- The Golden State Warriors have waived Ky Bowman.

- Rockets and Magic have discussed a trade featuring Russell Westbrook and Aaron Gordon.

- The Utah Jazz have traded Ed Davis and two 2023 second-round picks to the New York Knicks.

- Enes Kanter has been traded to the Blazers in a three-way deal that sends Mario Hezonja to Memphis along with Desmond Bane. Celtics get a future pick from Memphis.

judoka ::

Vesel za Gogija, Miami mu je pokazal kako ga cenijo.

Dallas pa odlicno, rabijo se enega ki lahko krije visoke igralce. Crowder/Ibaka.

RoccoC ::

J.Johnson lahko krije visoke...problem je, ker nima šuta za 3 kot Crowder recimo.

judoka ::

37% na 3 sute ni slabo pa se v zadnjem letu pogodbe je...

Samael ::

Tako in tako se Johnsonu pogodba izteka, Dallas si tu zgolj kupuje cap space za naslednjo sezono. Zdaj so v ekipi kar trije, potencialno štirje z iztekajočo pogodbo. Timmy, Boban, Johnson in Richardson (player option).

Trey Burke (ne vem, če je že kdo omenil, mogoče sem spregledal) je podpisal za naslednja tri leta za 10 mil. Proti LAC letos je bil kar soliden.
Samael != Samuel

Zgodovina sprememb…

  • spremenilo: Samael ()

RoccoC ::

@JJ Ni slabo, ni pa tudi ravno dobro za krilo. Manj meče kot pa recimo Crowder pa ta ima okol 40%...Sam upam da ni samo filer z iztekajočo pogodbo. Meni je bil v Miamiju parkrat zelo všeč. Je pa zadnje leto tam bil menda precej neresen, je na priprave prišel recimo povsem nepripravljen, če se prav spomnim ga he takrat Spoelstra tudi za nekaj časa odstranil iz ekipe.

Samael ::

https://twitter.com/i/status/1330041195...
"James Johnson dunking all over Mavs enemy #1, Marcus Morris" :D
Samael != Samuel

RoccoC ::

RoccoC je izjavil:

@JJ Ni slabo, ni pa tudi ravno dobro za krilo. Manj meče kot pa recimo Crowder pa ta ima okol 40%...Sam upam da ni samo filer z iztekajočo pogodbo. Meni je bil v Miamiju parkrat zelo všeč. Je pa zadnje leto tam bil menda precej neresen, je na priprave prišel recimo povsem nepripravljen, če se prav spomnim ga he takrat Spoelstra tudi za nekaj časa odstranil iz ekipe.


Popravek - Crowder je letos šutiral 44.5% za 3..

judoka ::

RoccoC je izjavil:

@JJ Ni slabo, ni pa tudi ravno dobro za krilo. Manj meče kot pa recimo Crowder pa ta ima okol 40%...Sam upam da ni samo filer z iztekajočo pogodbo. Meni je bil v Miamiju parkrat zelo všeč. Je pa zadnje leto tam bil menda precej neresen, je na priprave prišel recimo povsem nepripravljen, če se prav spomnim ga he takrat Spoelstra tudi za nekaj časa odstranil iz ekipe.



Vse res. JJ je verjetno misljen bolj za konec rotacije ampak je dejansko dober igralec, Crowder bi bil z lahkoto v 1 peterki in ce ga podpisejo ga bodo za vec let. Se mi zdi da je ze igral v Dallasu.

Badwolff ::

RoccoC je izjavil:


Popravek - Crowder je letos šutiral 44.5% za 3..


Small sample size alert.
Skupno je imel 34% met za tri lani, je pa bil po trade deadlinu in v drugem krogu playoffa extra hot. Tudi teh 34% je njegova druga najboljša sezona.

Samael ::

Mimogrede, zanimiv članek Josh Richardson may not be the third star the Mavericks want, but he's the third option they need right now

Josh Richardson was traded for Jimmy Butler 55 games ago. It wasn't even a one-sided deal. Yes, it was a sign-and-trade, and yes, the Philadelphia 76ers faced the threat of losing Butler for nothing, but critics praised the Sixers for extracting a budding 25-year-old pseudo-star from the Miami Heat in exchange for a player they didn't seem to want. The 76ers didn't just trade Butler for Richardson. They seemingly won a trade featuring Butler that landed them Richardson.

Fast forward 55 games, and Richardson has been dealt yet again. This time, the return was decidedly more modest. Seth Curry is a very good player. He's not a great one. He's never made an All-Star Team. He's not Jimmy Butler, and if the Mavericks had phoned the Heat and offered Curry for Butler, they would have been laughed off of the line. The gap between the two of them begs an important question: Just what could have happened across those 55 games that took Richardson from Butler's level down to Curry's?

The answer, in reality, is not much. He scored fewer points, yes, but that was largely the result of a reduced role. By true shooting an effective field goal percentage, he was essentially just as efficient. A hamstring injury forced him to miss a few games here and there, but never more than six in a row. Most defensive metrics suggest a slight decline, but one largely explainable by those injuries and an inconsistent role on a broken roster.

That, in truth, is what happened. Richardson spent 55 games in basketball purgatory, a victim of Philadelphia's weekly identity crises. A good but not great shooter, Richardson was expected to serve as a marksman on a 76ers roster otherwise devoid of shooting. Now he's on the team that just attempted the second-most 3-pointers in basketball. Ideally cast as a secondary shot-creator, Richardson spent the season on a team that famously lacked a primary ball-handler. Now he gets to play with Luka Doncic.

That's an upgrade for him, and it's a big one for the Mavericks. Dallas has been searching for a third star to pair with Doncic and Kristaps Porzingis throughout the offseason, but what it found was something more practical: a third option. A box-checker to fill the actual voids on the Dallas roster rather than the more nebulous talent-driven ones.

Dallas had the most efficient offense in NBA history last season, but ranked 18th in defense. So desperate were the Mavericks against the Clippers in the first round that Maxi Kleber, who spent the bulk of his minutes at center last season, had to guard Kawhi Leonard. Richardson ranked fifth among all shooting guards in ESPN's defensive real plus-minus and 10th among actual rotation players in Basketball Index's D-PIPM for the 2018-19 season, and while those numbers slipped last season, they both remained above average. He provides a meaningful contrast to fellow Dallas stopper Dorian Finney-Smith. Whereas Finney-Smith does his best work against bigger forwards, Richardson should serve as Dallas' point-of-attack menace. If a healthy Porzingis can return and continue to clean things up on the back end, Dallas should at the very least have an above-average defense.

Typically, the price for such improvement would come on offense, and Curry is probably a better offensive player than even Miami's version of Richardson. The gap is pretty minimal in practice, though. While not quite a Curry-caliber shooter, Richardson made 38.6 percent of his catch-and-shoot 3-pointers in his last two seasons with the Heat, an essential skill next to Doncic. That number fell to a pedestrian 34.6 with the 76ers last season for an entirely explainable reason. Only 32.5 percent of his 3-pointers last season were wide open, according to NBA.com. In his final Heat season, it was over 40 percent. Philadelphia's poor shot-creation rears its ugly head yet again.

Dallas obviously has an elite shot-creator in Doncic. Where they struggled in the postseason was secondary creation. Curry did so efficiently, but at a low enough volume to indicate that his success was somewhat circumstantial. Richardson's history is the opposite. His efficiency numbers have been relatively pedestrian, but at a very high volume by non-All-Star standards. Even last season, playing 55 games for a coach in Brett Brown that despises pick-and-roll, Richardson ran nearly 100 more of them than Curry. He's done so largely without proper spacing, and often as a primary focus of opposing defenses. He's been his team's leading scorer. Curry hasn't been, and the fact that Richardson won't need to be in Dallas should make the rest of his game more accessible. No non-Doncic Maverick averaged four assists last season. Richardson did so in his final Heat season, and would figure to be in line to do so again considering the degree to which Rick Carlisle empowers his ball-handlers. Curry is the better shooter, but Richardson is the more complete overall offensive player.

And while Curry's shot makes him a cleaner fit alongside that coveted third-star addition, Richardson makes the pursuit slightly more plausible. Curry is cheaper in the present by around $3 million, but Richardson has a player option for the 2021-22 campaign. If all goes as planned, he will use it to enter free agency, giving Dallas extra cap space to throw at Giannis Antetokounmpo or another big fish it wouldn't have had available with Curry's $8.1 million on the books. In a pandemic that has lowered cap projections significantly, that could be the difference between having max cap space and falling short.

Of course, in a perfect world, the Mavericks would probably prefer to keep Richardson and seek out a top 2021 free agent. Doing so is more feasible than it appears. While Richardson may command a hefty new contract, his cap hold in 2021 would be only 50 percent greater than his 2020-21 salary. That's a $16.2 million hold. Not exactly cheap, but hardly bank-breaking either. Without knowing where exactly the cap lands, getting off the money owed to Dwight Powell and Delon Wright should get Dallas within range of the 2021 max if it is needed. One such deal was likely anyway. Richardson can comfortably stand in as the third major piece in Dallas for now, but he won't stand in the way of a better one possibly arriving later.

It's a nice encapsulation of Richardson's place in Dallas. He was valuable enough to be traded for Butler not because he matched Butler's star power, but because his skillset could so capably supplement and enhance that star power in others. The Mavericks may be looking for a Butler-caliber player to stand alongside Doncic and Porzingis, but in the meantime, they needed a player capable of supporting them on all fronts, a sort of all-around guard equivalent to Chris Bosh or Draymond Green.

Richardson isn't there yet, but Philadelphia traded Butler for him because his rise in Miami suggested the possibility of such a trajectory. It only took one season of the Sixers' own mismanagement to give up on that dream, and a Dallas team with superstars far better equipped to achieve it eagerly scooped him up in response. Curry will be missed, but shooting is replaceable. That's what Tyrell Terry was drafted to bring.

Guards as complete as Richardson simply don't become available for the price Dallas paid: a largely one-dimensional alternative three years his senior. He may never again reach Butler's level of value, but given his incredible fit with the Mavericks, his next 55 games are probably going to take him far closer to it than a player who only cost Dallas Curry should ever get. It will take far fewer outings to acknowledge Richardson's status as one of the steals of the offseason.
Samael != Samuel

HypoHypo ::

V oči so mi padle naslednji 3 trejdi/podpisi pogodb:

1. Danilo Gallinari has agreed to a three-year, $61.5 million deal with the Atlanta Hawks.
2. De'Aaron Fox has agreed to a 5-year, $163 million contract extension with the Sacramento Kings.
3. Davis Bertans has agreed to a five-year, $80 million deal with the Washington Wizards.

1* - Atlanta bo letos očitno šla po poti lanskega Dallasa in vse stavila na napad, drugače si ne znam razlagati podpisa Gallinarija. Meni sicer izredno všečen igralec, kljub temu pa slab v obrambi pa še injury prone. Zdi se mi, da ga je Atlanta kar močno preplačala. Sam mu več kot $15 million na sezono ne bi ponudil. Vodstvo Atlante je zadnje dve sezoni sicer kar pametno kadrovalo, ampak se mi zdi, da so pri Danilu naredili napako, ki bi jih znala kar tepsti.

2* - Fox je še eden v vrsti igralcev za katerega menim, da je močno precenjen. Statistika 21/4/7 se meni ne zdi vredno super max. pogodbe. Tip je sicer hiter kot strela, odstotek za 3 pa mu je napram predlanske sezone padel. Odstotek za dve se je poboljšal, vendar je dobil tudi bistveno bolj proste roke. Nevem no, morda se totalno motim o Foxu, ampak meni osebno je sedaj Fox s tole novo pogodbo med TOP 5 overpaid players in the league.

O njem se je kar dosti špekuliralo, da bo odšel, pa ga je očitno Sacramento na vsak način želel zadržati, da vodstvu še bolj ne pade že tako močno načeta priljubljenost. Me zanima mnenje ostalih na tem forumu.

3* - V prvih dveh sem nekako predstavil po mojem mnenju preplačani pogodbi. Pri Bertansu pa menim, da je Washington izpeljal odličen posel . 16 milijonov na leto za igralca, ki je res pravi avtomat za tri točke. Tudi če pride do kakšnih manjših poškodb, odstotek meta za tri nebi smel kar čudežno pasti. Ni igralec, ki bi se zanašal na atletske sposobnosti. Washigton v primeru odhoda Bertansa nebi pridobil dosti in to je verjetno razlog za dolgoročno pogodobo, kje drugje bi lahko zagotovo dobil bolj donosno pogodbo.

Extra comment na redditu glede Bertansove pogodbe : "It's actually backloaded, so the next 2 years will be around 14mil a year. By the time we are paying him 18 million in THEORY John Wall's contract is gone, so I think this is actually a very good deal."

nerro32 ::

Atlanta se menda na vse pretege trudi, da bi se v prihodnji sezoni uvrstili v končnico. Gallo je v bil v zadnjih dveh sezonah odličen, verjetno najpomembnejši člen pri uvrstitvi Clippersov v končnico in lani tudi odličen pri OKC, tako da me ne preseneča dobra pogodba. Prav tako jaz ne bi rekel, da je slab v obrambi. Res ni vrhunski, je pa po moji oceni nekako povprečen. Če pa že ima pomanjkljivosti v obrambi, pa jih adekvatno nadomesti s prispevkom v napadu. Ne more biti ravno gonilna sila ekipe v boju za naslov, verjetno je pa lahko 3. violina.

Strinjam pa se glede Foxa. S takšnim metom za 3 točke (v samo 3,6 poskusih na tekmo) si ni zaslužil take pogodbe. In točno to kar si omenil - Sacramento je že ne vem koliko let v razsulu in se morajo na vse pretege truditi obdržati svoje najboljše igralce. So pa letos vendarle naredili odlično potezo na draftu, ko so z 12. pickom dobili Haliburtona. Upam, da z novim vodstvom in novimi igralci sledijo boljši časi za Kingse.

Bertansa in Wizardsov sicer nisem dosti spremljal, ampak kot specialist za tri točke ima kar visoko pogodbo. Če primerjamo to recimo s Sethom Curryjem, JJ Redickom, Korverjem ipd. je ta številka kar visoka :)

V Washingtonu pa menda kar burno, Wall naj bi zahteval menjavo!

bambam20 ::

nerro32 je izjavil:


Sacramento je že ne vem koliko let v razsulu


V razsulu od leta 2006. Vmes so imeli 5 letno izjemno plodno obdobje 2000-2005, ker so imeli res odlične igralce na kupu, kar se zelo verjetno ne bo nikoli ponovilo.

Zgodovina sprememb…

  • spremenilo: bambam20 ()

Badwolff ::

Hayward k Hornetsom za 120/4. Wow... Hornetsi imajo kar všečno ekipo sedaj, še enga centra najdejo, pa imajo vse položaje dobro pokrite. Aja ne, je Detroit vse pokupil.

Bradley v Miami, kar je kar čudno. Podpisali so tudi Harklessa. Za oba bo minutaža kar problem.

Portis in DJ Augustine v Buckse. DJ je bil kar dober lani; Bobby pa je bl đoder, ampakBucksi rabijo igrače :D.

Samael ::

Crowder ravnokar podpisal s Sunsi.
Samael != Samuel

Samael ::

Samael != Samuel

el_bahattee ::

Meni se zdi predvsem zanimivo, kaj se dogaja z Westbrookom. Praktično nihče ga noče, razen morda NY Knicksov, pa še oni nimajo nekih resnih planov oziroma ekipe za playoff. Samo potrdilo se je, kar smo nekateri opazili že leta nazaj - Westbrook je precenjen igralec, ki bo težko karkoli osvojil, razen osebne statistike nabiranja trojnih dvojčkov. Obrambe ne igra, ima slab procent meta, še posebno trojk, katastrofalen shot selection in pa velik ego, ki ne prenese kritike. Nekaj časa so te njegovi trojni dvojčki navduševali številne navijače in analitike, zmeraj več pa se jih je začelo strinjati, da so to prazne številke, ki ne prinesejo uspeha ekipam.

Tudi zato me Dončičevi trojni dvojčki ne impresionirajo tako zelo kot marsikatere Slovence. Pa ne mislim zdaj primerjati Dončiča in Westbrooka, ker gre za drugačen tip igralcev. Pravim samo, da je osebno statistiko treba jemati z rezervo, še posebno zadnja leta, ko se v NBA praktično ne igra več resne obrambe.
Come to my center, you enter the winter.

Zgodovina sprememb…

Badwolff ::

v bistvu si predvsem hater.Russ je bil letos zelo dober,3rd team all nba. Ma pa letno plačo okrog 40m in toliko ni vreden skoraj nihče.

RoccoC ::

Če lahko Hayward po poškodbi dobi 30 na leto, bi se lahko tudi 40 za Westbrooka našlo. Da ne bo nesporazuma, mislim da noben od njiju niti približno tolk ne zasluži...

Samael ::

el_bahattee je izjavil:

Tudi zato me Dončičevi trojni dvojčki ne impresionirajo tako zelo kot marsikatere Slovence. Pa ne mislim zdaj primerjati Dončiča in Westbrooka, ker gre za drugačen tip igralcev. Pravim samo, da je osebno statistiko treba jemati z rezervo, še posebno zadnja leta, ko se v NBA praktično ne igra več resne obrambe.

Sicer razumem o čem govoriš, ampak številke so v bistvu edina stvar o katerih se da poročati, primerjati itd. in ki v končni fazi pri tako mlademu igralcu, ki je šele okusil NBA ligo v veliki meri tudi navdušujejo.
Ljubitelji košarke, ki gledamo tekme, vemo seveda več. Vemo kolikokrat je Luka nosil ekipo, koliko igre, metov je kreiral za druge itd. pa tudi dele, kjer ga zna biksati ... in si ustvarimo mnenje kot celoto vsega, ampak na koncu bodo vedno številke (kakršne koli pač že) tiste, ki bodo ostale v analih in s katerimi se bodo primerjali prihodnji rodovi igralcev.
Samael != Samuel

Kurzweil ::

Jae Crowder has agreed to a three-year, $30 million deal with the Phoenix Suns

el_bahattee ::

Badwolff je izjavil:

v bistvu si predvsem hater.Russ je bil letos zelo dober,3rd team all nba. Ma pa letno plačo okrog 40m in toliko ni vreden skoraj nihče.

Spet gledaš samo njegovo statistiko in koliko trojnih dvojčkov je dosegel. V tem res blesti. Pa tudi izreden atlet je. Kaj pa stil igre, shot selection, % meta? Tu je zelo slab. Pa saj je dokazal, da s tem egotom in stilom igre ne more ničesar osvojiti, pa je bil v dobrih ekipah. Kot slišim na raznih ameriških športnih showih se tudi večina analitikov strinja z mano.
Come to my center, you enter the winter.

Kurzweil ::

Fred VanVleet has agreed to a four-year, $85 million deal with the Toronto Raptors.

Jeff Green has agreed to a deal with the Brooklyn Nets.

The Charlotte Hornets will waive Nicolas Batum.

Avery Bradley has agreed to a two-year, $11.6 million deal with the Miami Heat.

DJ Augustin has agreed to a three-year, $21 million deal with the Milwaukee Bucks.

Bobby Portis has agreed to a two-year deal with the Milwaukee Bucks.

Kris Dunn has agreed to a two-year, $10 million deal with the Atlanta Hawks.

el_bahattee ::

Samael je izjavil:

el_bahattee je izjavil:

Tudi zato me Dončičevi trojni dvojčki ne impresionirajo tako zelo kot marsikatere Slovence. Pa ne mislim zdaj primerjati Dončiča in Westbrooka, ker gre za drugačen tip igralcev. Pravim samo, da je osebno statistiko treba jemati z rezervo, še posebno zadnja leta, ko se v NBA praktično ne igra več resne obrambe.

Sicer razumem o čem govoriš, ampak številke so v bistvu edina stvar o katerih se da poročati, primerjati itd. in ki v končni fazi pri tako mlademu igralcu, ki je šele okusil NBA ligo v veliki meri tudi navdušujejo.
Ljubitelji košarke, ki gledamo tekme, vemo seveda več. Vemo kolikokrat je Luka nosil ekipo, koliko igre, metov je kreiral za druge itd. pa tudi dele, kjer ga zna biksati ... in si ustvarimo mnenje kot celoto vsega, ampak na koncu bodo vedno številke (kakršne koli pač že) tiste, ki bodo ostale v analih in s katerimi se bodo primerjali prihodnji rodovi igralcev.

Deloma se strinjam, statistika je seveda pomembna, se pa ne da zajeti vsega v statistiko. Npr. to, koliko se kdo trudi, kdo gara v obrambi (tudi če nima veliko ukradenih žog ali blokad), kdo igra za ekipo in kdo zase, kdo prevzema odgovornost, ko se tekma lomi itd.

Dončič je zaenkrat na dobri poti, igra večinoma dobro, mu gre pa na roko več stvari. Prvič to, da se v NBA igra vse slabša obramba, forsira se napad. Par mesecev nazaj je Dallas npr. prejel 150 točk in to v tekmi brez podaljškov. To ni več resno.
Drugič pa to, da mu lastnik kluba in trener precej zaupata in ima takorekoč proste roke v igri. Če bi igral 15, 20 let nazaj, bi verjetno imel na voljo manj metov + srečal bi se z boljšo obrambo, posledično pa bi bila njegava statistika precej drugačna.
Come to my center, you enter the winter.

Samael ::

Saj to vemo. Vemo tudi, da bi imel Luka kakšen skok (in posledično trojni dvojček) manj, če ne bi bila strategija ekipe, da zaradi hitrejšega prenosa eksplicitno Luka skače za uncontested odbito žogo, namesto centra, ki že teče v napad, itd. ampak okoliščine so kakršne pač so za vse v tej generaciji, kjer Luka blesti med mnogimi drugimi zvezdniki.
Gotovo se spomneš, če si kaj sledil tuje forume, itd. kako se je še malce nazaj na veliko razpisovalo, da bo v končnici naletel na zid, pa kako se bo takrat šele pokazala šibkost itd. pa je na koncu v končnici do neke mere zasenčil celo Kawhija.
Ne glede na tendence moderne NBA košarke, ki preferira atraktivno igro napada nad obrambo bi rekel, glede na to, kolikokrat je ekipa, roko na srce s prvo peterko igralcev, ki bi bili večinoma marsikje zgolj bench playerji, letela na krilih njegove igre, da so njegove številke legit in občudovanja vredne.
V končni fazi bi tisto "če bi igral 15-20 let nazaj bi bilo drugače..." veljalo tudi za ostale superzvednike, ki so mu v tem kar počne neposredna konkurenca. Ljudje si morajo izbiti iz glave, da Luka ne igra proti talentu, ki je na igrišču stal pred 20imi leti, ampak proti vsemu talentu, ki na igrišču pod sedanjimi pogoji stoji danes.
Samael != Samuel

Zgodovina sprememb…

  • spremenilo: Samael ()

nerro32 ::

Hjao, zdaj mi pa je tale Hayward dvignil pisker...Boston ostal brez Haywarda in brez kompenzacije, ko sem upal vsaj na Turnerja iz Indiane, potem pa gre v nek Charlotte...No sej ga razumem, kdo ne bi šel za tak denar, sam da so mu tolk ponudili je tut presenetljivo. Celticsi pa se spet lahko obrišejo pod nosom.
Ve kdo za kakšen posodobljen seznam free agentov? Je kakšen zelo dober igralec še na voljo?
Rabili bi dobrega prvega centra. Boston se je znebil Kanterja in Poirierja, tako da imajo samo še 203cm velikana Theisa in Roberta Williamsa in legendarnega, a lesenega Tacko Falla. Seveda centra občasno igrata tudi 198cm visoka Ojeleye in Grant Williams! S takimi igralci pač zelo težko pokrivaš Giannisa, Lebrona, AD-ja in kateregakoli 10+ cm višjega in 20kg težjega centra. Med centri mi na pamet padejo Baynes, Dedmon, Ibaka, Gasol, Whiteside, Harry Giles, Noel, Tristan Thompson in Biyombo, mogoče je že tudi kateri od teh že kje podpisal.
Rabili bi pa tudi še nekega playmakerja, kakšen Jeff Teague, Galloway, Austin Rivers, Reggie Jackson, Rondo, Mudiay, Napier...

Idealen scenarij - AD ne podpiše za Lakerse in pride v Boston :))
Verjeten scenarij - podaljšajo z Wanamakerjem, podpišejo kakšnega PF oz. undersized centra, npr. kakšen Paul Millsap, nato pa Tatumu dajo max extension.

Kurzweil ::

Rajon Rondo has agreed to a two-year, $15 million deal with the Atlanta Hawks.

Kurzweil ::

Paul Millsap has agreed to a one-year, $10 million deal withh the Denver Nuggets.

Kurzweil ::

BREAKING: Carmelo Anthony has re-signed with the Portland Trail Blazers!
From out of the league to getting back-to-back contracts with the Blazers

bambam20 ::

Serge Ibaka je podpisal s Clipersi.

Horas ::

kako pa to da je rondo šel v neko atlanto namesto da bi ostal pri prvakih s katerimi bi lhko še enkrat osvojil prstan??
8700k+z390, 16gb 3200mhz, 1080ti, 650w gold, 2x250gb m.2 nvme + 2tb hdd

8500+b360, 16gb 2666mhz, rx580 8gb, 600w bronze, 250gb ssd m.2 + 2tb hdd

Kurzweil ::

Serge Ibaka has reportedly agreed to a deal with the Clippers.

Jeff Teague will reportedly sign with the Celtics.

KCP is reportedly returning to the Lakers.

Tristan Thompson is reportedly headed to Boston.

Samael ::

Wes Iwundu, a 6-6 fourth-year small forward with career averages of 4.8 points and 2.5 rebounds, clearly doesn't solve the Mavs' big-man need. Confirmed deal, but working to get the figures. Can't be for much and is not a major signing. He made $1.3M last season.

Vir.

Wes Iwundu is headed to Dallas on a 2-year deal, per sources.

Vir.

Nimam pojma, kdo je to in kaj naj bi doprinesel igri. Nadomestek MKG-ja?
A imajo v Dallasu sploh še kakšno prosto mesto? Bey naj bi bil na 2-way pogodbi, torej ne šteje.
Samael != Samuel

Zgodovina sprememb…

  • spremenilo: Samael ()

bambam20 ::

Horas je izjavil:

kako pa to da je rondo šel v neko atlanto namesto da bi ostal pri prvakih s katerimi bi lhko še enkrat osvojil prstan??


Šel je zato, ker imel player opcijo pri lakersih za 2.6 milijona. Logično, da je sprejel atlantino ponudbo za 7 milijonov po sezoni. Nor bi bil, če bi zavrnil.

nerro32 ::

Ok, Boston pripeljal Teagua in Thompsona, kar dobro glede na situacijo. Nekaj se celo šušlja, da tudi deal s Hornetsi še ni zaključen in bi lahko celo poskušali izvesti sign&trade ter bi tako dobili nekaj v zameno za Gordona.

@Samael
kar dobro si rekel, nadomestek MKG-ja, morda tudi Courtneya Leeja :)) Iwundu še ni dolgo v ligi in po moje še ni pokazal vsega kar zna, tako da se mi zdi dober podpis za minimalca. Se mi zdi, da DAL kar preveč goreče išče igralce, ki bi predstavljali upgrade za njihovo obrambo. Za prosto mesto pa ne vem, mogoče sledi še kakšen trade, mogoče bodo koga odslovili.
Trenutnih 15:
KP, Marjanovič, Powell, Kleber, Johnson, DFS, Luka, Green, Iwundu, THJ, Richardson, Terry, Brunson, Burke, Barea.

Je kdo kje zasledil v kakšnem stanju je Powell? Bo pripravljen na začetek nove sezone? Upam, da se bo lahko vrnil na staro raven po takšni poškodbi.

judoka ::

Se mi zdi da nujno rabijo se enega centra...Powell prihaja po poskodbi, KP je out vsaj za kak mesec, ostaneta Maxi in Boban.

Baynes, Gasol...eden od teh dveh bi bil perfekten.

Samael ::


Saj ne, da bi bilo kaj športnega v tem, ampak vseeno, Johnsonova reakcija pri 2:10 minutah dalje ko Covington zbije Dragiča :) Mislim, da bo to sezono znašanja M.Morris in podobnih nad Dončičem bistveno manj :)
Samael != Samuel

RoccoC ::

Tip ima črn pas v karateju, neporažen v 7 MMA in 20 kickboxing borbah.

Horas ::

bambam20 je izjavil:

Horas je izjavil:

kako pa to da je rondo šel v neko atlanto namesto da bi ostal pri prvakih s katerimi bi lhko še enkrat osvojil prstan??


Šel je zato, ker imel player opcijo pri lakersih za 2.6 milijona. Logično, da je sprejel atlantino ponudbo za 7 milijonov po sezoni. Nor bi bil, če bi zavrnil.


saj vem da je itak denar posredi. samo DEJSTVO da bi lahko vsaj še enkrat postal prvak z LAL?!? mislim... isto howard. potem bolje da grejo na kitajsko še za 3-5x več denarja igrat.
8700k+z390, 16gb 3200mhz, 1080ti, 650w gold, 2x250gb m.2 nvme + 2tb hdd

8500+b360, 16gb 2666mhz, rx580 8gb, 600w bronze, 250gb ssd m.2 + 2tb hdd

RoccoC ::

Lol, kaj ti misliš da bi Rondo dobil 20-30 milijonov na Kitajskem al kaj...

bambam20 ::

Horas je izjavil:



saj vem da je itak denar posredi. samo DEJSTVO da bi lahko vsaj še enkrat postal prvak z LAL?!? mislim... isto howard. potem bolje da grejo na kitajsko še za 3-5x več denarja igrat.



Kaj bi Rondu dodal njegovi igralski zapuščini dodaten NBA prstan? Od prstanov se ne živi. Rondo je počasi že tam, ko je vprašanje kako dolgo bo še v NBA-ju in mislim, da je logično, da je vzel veliko višjo ponudbo, ki mu prinesla nekaj milijonov USD neto, pri lakersovi ponubi pa bi videl manj kot 2 milijona.

Kurzweil ::

Samael je izjavil:


Saj ne, da bi bilo kaj športnega v tem, ampak vseeno, Johnsonova reakcija pri 2:10 minutah dalje ko Covington zbije Dragiča :) Mislim, da bo to sezono znašanja M.Morris in podobnih nad Dončičem bistveno manj :)


Sem hotel že tole tu prilimat.... pa zadnje čase ne gre na ST limat slik...

Dallas Mavericks have officially signed their Luka Doncic bodyguard 😂

James Johnson is a 2nd degree black belt, undefeated in MMA, wants to join the UFC after basketball, and his parents are both black belts 💪


Objava ns FB strani NBA Buzz

Kurzweil ::

Donovan Mitchell has agreed to a five-year, $195 million contract extension with the Utah Jazz.

Torrey Craig has agreed on a deal with the Milwaukee Bucks.

Harry Giles has agreed to a one-year deal with the Portland Trail Blazers.

Bryn Forbes has agreed to a two-year deal with the Miwaukee Bucks.

JaKarr Sampson has agreed to a one-year, veteran's minimum deal with the Indiana Pacers.

nerro32 ::

Fun Fact #1: Harry Giles je prvi igralec, za katerega je Jayson Tatum moral priznati, da je dejansko boljši od njega. To se je zgodilo že v srednji šoli in samo potrjuje Gilesov neizmeren talent. Ampak, kot že neštetokrat do sedaj, poškodba je močno vplivala na njegov nadaljnji razvoj.

Fun Fact #2: Zion Williamson is now the longest-tenured player on the Pelicans.

Zgodovina sprememb…

  • spremenil: nerro32 ()

Kurzweil ::

BREAKING: Bogdanovic has signed the $72 Million offer sheet from Atlanta

BREAKING: Kent Bazemore signs with the Warriors on a 1-year-deal!
Bazemore spent his first two seasons in Golden State.

firbec ::

Kurzweil je izjavil:

BREAKING: Bogdanovic has signed the $72 Million offer sheet from Atlanta

uf škoda, sem imel malce upanja, da pride v Dallas , se m zdi, da bi se z Dončičem krasno ujela
««
3 / 73
»»


Vredno ogleda ...

TemaSporočilaOglediZadnje sporočilo
TemaSporočilaOglediZadnje sporočilo
»

Kvalifikacije za OI in OI v Tokiu (košarka)

Oddelek: Šport
6142 (50) HypoHypo
»

Evropsko prvenstvo v košarki 2017 (strani: 1 2 3 416 17 18 19 )

Oddelek: Šport
91299153 (28366) 2dark
»

NBA (strani: 1 2 3 413 14 15 16 )

Oddelek: Šport
759124928 (22237) Samael

Več podobnih tem