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Rusija vs. Ukrajina aka. "Putin - še sladkih 16 let na oblasti?"
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AtaŠtumf ::
TheBlueOne je izjavil:
THE U.S. PRESS FREEDOM TRACKER
Kaj to tehtas proti Rusiji.Ti pa si komediant. Kaj zivis v propagandi?
Ne tehtam tega, samo smesno mi je, ko folk zivi v iluzijah, da se to v zahodnih drzavah nikoli ne dogaja!
#SlovenijaPrva #SLOVEenianLivesMatter #SlavaGasilcem
TheBlueOne ::
Ne tehtam tega, samo smesno mi je, ko folk zivi v iluzijah, da se to v zahodnih drzavah nikoli ne dogaja!
Nihce ne zivi v iluziji, da je na zahodu vse popolno, samo na zahodu uspesno tendiramo na maksimum svobode, ki se prakticno se izide.
Ce primerjas z Rusijo ustvarjas nerealno sliko, ki nakazuje, da so zadeve podobne, v bistvu pa je na zahodu kolikor se da dobro, v Rusiji pa bo pocasi kolikor se da slabo.
Ce razumes kaksen tuj jezik tale Rus lepo razlaga kako je ...
V kaksnem videu pokomentira tudi take kot ti, torej Z zahodnjake.
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blay44 ::
Rusija today.
Pazite na svoj jezik. Psihiči imajo popolnoma proste roke.
https://t.me/bazabazon/17342
Hitro vam bo spodrsnilo.....
A si predstavljate to teto?
Prej ali slej bo vzela v roke šrotarco in poračunala.
Malidelničar ::
blay44: A je možna državljanska vojna v Rusiji?
Don't invest like a Joe. Invest like a Simon.
blay44 ::
Iskreno upam in računam na slovansko inteligenco, da je ne bo.
Problem je pa slovanska čustvenost. Padejo v jamo dreka, pa kar
gazijo noter. Srce ne dopušča izhoda.
Vsaj tko jaz dojemam, ko poslušam slovenske Starce.
Zdej, drek ki so ga naredili(res zavržna dejanja) so pa druga stvar.
Pametni popusti prvi. Potem vemo kdo ostaja!
Upajmo na najbolje.
Problem je pa slovanska čustvenost. Padejo v jamo dreka, pa kar
gazijo noter. Srce ne dopušča izhoda.
Vsaj tko jaz dojemam, ko poslušam slovenske Starce.
Zdej, drek ki so ga naredili(res zavržna dejanja) so pa druga stvar.
Pametni popusti prvi. Potem vemo kdo ostaja!
Upajmo na najbolje.
luli ::
Malidelničar je izjavil:
blay44: A je možna državljanska vojna v Rusiji?
Ne možna, po mojem je državljanska vojna v Rusiji dejstvo. Ubobožane republike vzhoda bodo zahtevale neodvisnost od Moskovije, pa tudi Kitajci se bodo ozemeljsko okrepili.
Lonsarg ::
Vojaška in agencijska moč je tam tako centralizirana da je pomoje možna zgolj "vojna" med elito. Kar v praksi pomeni zgolj menjava diktatorja na vrhu vse ostalo pa isto dalje. Nobene spremembe politike ali sprememb za ljudi.
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bbbbbb2015 ::
Rusija today.
Pazite na svoj jezik. Psihiči imajo popolnoma proste roke.
https://t.me/bazabazon/17342
Hitro vam bo spodrsnilo.....
A si predstavljate to teto?
Prej ali slej bo vzela v roke šrotarco in poračunala.
Ne bo teta nič poračunala. Teta ima sinove, nečake, vnuke. Ko se ti zravnajo, bodo vrgli senco nanjo in na tega aparatčika. Potem bo aparatčik hrana za črve.
Nivo jeze tete je zelo visok. Ne boji se aparatčika. Tako na uč bi rekel, da je teta neskončno jezna.
Vojaška in agencijska moč je tam tako centralizirana da je pomoje možna zgolj "vojna" med elito. Kar v praksi pomeni zgolj menjava diktatorja na vrhu vse ostalo pa isto dalje. Nobene spremembe politike ali sprememb za ljudi.
Pod bus bodo vrgli samo in izključno Putina. In še to verjetno ne pod bus. Poslali ga bodo na zdravljenje, saj človek je že star, nekaj mu ziher manjka. In bo odšel s scene, ne da bi bilo potrebno koga prav ubiti.
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bbbbbb2015 ::
mojsterleo je izjavil:
kaj se tle dogaja...
https://twitter.com/wartranslated/statu...
Prigozhin films himself in front of a large number of corpses, and in an unusually aggressive manner puts forward demands to Russian military leadership to provide more ammunition.
Resnica prihaja na dan. Wagnerjeve izgube v Bahmutu so enormne. Za 200m napredka izgubijo na stotine ljudi.
Tako je. Prigožin zdaj šopa narativo, češ, niste nam dali municije, zdaj pa je ogromno mrtvih. Ergo, ruska vlada je kriva. To kaže na to, da se Prigožin iz te mineštre umika.
V resnici je Prigožin nek wannabe đeneral. Pojma nima ne o strategiji, ne o taktiki, ne o operativi. Držal bi se kuhinje, pa ne bi delal toliko sranja.
Rambutan ::
Ne rabijo mene, so že sami pogruntali strategijo, kako pripraviti NATO da jim pripelje vso svojo opremo in strelivo v demilitarizacijo v Ukrajino.
Pa na revolucijo v Rusiji ni treba preveč resno računat, Putin ima 80% podporo. Če ga bo kdo nadomestil, pa bo verjetno še bolj nevarno za konflikt, Putin namreč velja za preveč popustljivega in javnost si želi bolj odločno ukrepanje v Ukrajini.
Prigožin je pa predvsem zadolžen za PR, močno dvomim da ima defacto kontrolo nad Wagnerjem. IMO je samo figura na čelu, Wagner pa iz ozadja vodi FSB oz. MOD.
Pa na revolucijo v Rusiji ni treba preveč resno računat, Putin ima 80% podporo. Če ga bo kdo nadomestil, pa bo verjetno še bolj nevarno za konflikt, Putin namreč velja za preveč popustljivega in javnost si želi bolj odločno ukrepanje v Ukrajini.
Prigožin je pa predvsem zadolžen za PR, močno dvomim da ima defacto kontrolo nad Wagnerjem. IMO je samo figura na čelu, Wagner pa iz ozadja vodi FSB oz. MOD.
TheBlueOne ::
Pa na revolucijo v Rusiji ni treba preveč resno računat, Putin ima 80% podporo.
Od kod ti to? Ce bi bil v Rusiji in bil proti vojni in te poklice nek statisticni urad kaj bi naredil? Dejansko raskiral, da te dajo na kaksen seznam ali morda ne odgovarjal? Ali bi dejansko ogrozil sebe in druzino in se ne strinjal s tem kdo vlada?
bbbbbb2015 ::
Ukrajinci so začeli pritiskati pri Zolotarivki in so zradirali neke rove od orkov. Analitiki so mnenja, da Ukrajinci želijo oblikovati klešče okrog Bakmuta. V ta namen so deployali divizjon tankov (30 tankov cca). Zdaj se bodo morali Rusi odločiti, če bodo branili vse to "osvojeno" ali pa bodo to prepustili Ukrajincem, v pričakovanju velike ofenzive. Si predstavljate? Da orke stisnejo Ukrajinci v klešče severno in južno od Bakmuta. Gagali bodo orki ko račke.
Če bodo branili, potem bodo morali vezati velike sile, zdaj je zemlja že bolj suha. Potem bodo vezali sile, ki jih bodo rabili v ofenzivi Ukrajincev. Če pa ne bodo branili, potem pa so zgubili vse, dobesedno vse, kar so osvojili, pa še teren se bo odprl Ukrajincem za močnejši protinapad.
Pričakuje se, da bodo pa sedaj Ukrajinci pritisnili na šibka mesta Rusov tudi drugje. Povsod bo enak razmislek (za Ruse). Ali braniti (ter dovoliti vpad drugje) ali ne braniti in dovoliti, da Ukrajinci odprejo klin. S tem pa tudi tvegajo, da se fronta poruši in jim pridejo Ukrajinci za hrbet.
Če bodo branili, potem bodo morali vezati velike sile, zdaj je zemlja že bolj suha. Potem bodo vezali sile, ki jih bodo rabili v ofenzivi Ukrajincev. Če pa ne bodo branili, potem pa so zgubili vse, dobesedno vse, kar so osvojili, pa še teren se bo odprl Ukrajincem za močnejši protinapad.
Pričakuje se, da bodo pa sedaj Ukrajinci pritisnili na šibka mesta Rusov tudi drugje. Povsod bo enak razmislek (za Ruse). Ali braniti (ter dovoliti vpad drugje) ali ne braniti in dovoliti, da Ukrajinci odprejo klin. S tem pa tudi tvegajo, da se fronta poruši in jim pridejo Ukrajinci za hrbet.
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fur80 ::
Ne rabijo mene, so že sami pogruntali strategijo, kako pripraviti NATO da jim pripelje vso svojo opremo in strelivo v demilitarizacijo v Ukrajino.
Pa na revolucijo v Rusiji ni treba preveč resno računat, Putin ima 80% podporo. Če ga bo kdo nadomestil, pa bo verjetno še bolj nevarno za konflikt, Putin namreč velja za preveč popustljivega in javnost si želi bolj odločno ukrepanje v Ukrajini.
Prigožin je pa predvsem zadolžen za PR, močno dvomim da ima defacto kontrolo nad Wagnerjem. IMO je samo figura na čelu, Wagner pa iz ozadja vodi FSB oz. MOD.
Mene resno zanima, kdo tebi to pravljico prodaja! Koga pa ostali 13% podpira! 83% podpore nima niti angleški kralj, pa nima ne protikandidata, ne zapira opozicije, ne ubija novinarjev, ne prepoveduje protestov,...
mackilla ::
Ne rabijo mene, so že sami pogruntali strategijo, kako pripraviti NATO da jim pripelje vso svojo opremo in strelivo v demilitarizacijo v Ukrajino.
Pa na revolucijo v Rusiji ni treba preveč resno računat, Putin ima 80% podporo. Če ga bo kdo nadomestil, pa bo verjetno še bolj nevarno za konflikt, Putin namreč velja za preveč popustljivega in javnost si želi bolj odločno ukrepanje v Ukrajini.
Prigožin je pa predvsem zadolžen za PR, močno dvomim da ima defacto kontrolo nad Wagnerjem. IMO je samo figura na čelu, Wagner pa iz ozadja vodi FSB oz. MOD.
Kdo pri zdravi pameti pa verjame statističnim podatkom,ki prihajajo iz Rusije. Kolk dejansko folk podpira vojno ti pove,da so morali mobilizirati po periferiji in novačiti kaznjence. Zdaj bodo seveda Rusi uničili komplet NATO opremo. Spet propaganda za bedake
Bolj odločno ukrepanje si želijo sibirski pijanci,upokojenci ter razni ruski rambutani. Sicer so slednji prvi pobrali šila in kopita v Gruzijo, Kazahstan... 100% mackilla ::
Kako veš,da bi odletel ven iz mesta in padel v naravo? Isto lahko bi padel tudi na vrtec. Ti bi seveda tvegal. Če bi padel na stolpnico bi pa seveda govoril kakšni bedaki so,da ga niso sestrelili
Bull shit izgovori! Saj je padel v mesto, obstajajo tviti in slike, kako zaradi tega gori ena stavba. Ne vem pa, ali je bil vrtec, ali šola, ali kaj drugega.
Se greš nekakšno čustveno izsiljevanje, samo da bi ti prikimali, da bi imel prav,....
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PS Verjetno so ga sestrelili z "ročno" AA raketo.
So ga pač sestrelili. Jebiga. Če ga ne bi in bi padel nekam na stolpnico bi pa spet nabijali zakaj ga niso sestrelili. Midva nisva bila zraven. Če bi bila bi mogoče tudi midva streljala na njega. Al pa ne. Ne rabiš kimat
gozdar1 ::
fur80 ::
Še stari Prigozhin z podnapisi. Ali mu je res odbilo, so Ukrajinci res pred tem, da jih zakoličijo, ali je to kaka finta podmukla za Ukrajince, predvsem za ljudi mislim, ki bodo sedaj pričakovali osvoboditev Bakhmuta.
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Following his overnight rant, #Wagner chief Yevgeniy Prigozhin now says his mercenaries will withdraw from #Bakhmut in 5 days.
"On 10 May 2023, we are forced to transfer positions to units of the Ministry of Defence"
English subs by @vidtranslator
(Papal Fortress = Popasna)
https://twitter.com/TWMCLtd/status/1654...
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Following his overnight rant, #Wagner chief Yevgeniy Prigozhin now says his mercenaries will withdraw from #Bakhmut in 5 days.
"On 10 May 2023, we are forced to transfer positions to units of the Ministry of Defence"
English subs by @vidtranslator
(Papal Fortress = Popasna)
https://twitter.com/TWMCLtd/status/1654...
Smrekar1 ::
To bi znal bi precejšen udarec za rusko propagando.
https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/...
Znabit, da se je rusko superorožje srečalo z vsakdanjim Zahodnim in da Kinzhal ni noben izziv za Patriota. Rezultat je znan še iz časov sv.Suličnika.
OutOfTheBox ::
Še stari Prigozhin z podnapisi. Ali mu je res odbilo, so Ukrajinci res pred tem, da jih zakoličijo, ali je to kaka finta podmukla za Ukrajince, predvsem za ljudi mislim, ki bodo sedaj pričakovali osvoboditev Bakhmuta.
1/2
Following his overnight rant, #Wagner chief Yevgeniy Prigozhin now says his mercenaries will withdraw from #Bakhmut in 5 days.
"On 10 May 2023, we are forced to transfer positions to units of the Ministry of Defence"
English subs by @vidtranslator
(Papal Fortress = Popasna)
https://twitter.com/TWMCLtd/status/1654...
Prigozhin bolje da se ne zadržuje na kakšnih višinah. Pobiramo stave koliko časa mu še preostane?
fikus_ ::
bbbbbb2015 je izjavil:
Ukrajinci so začeli pritiskati pri Zolotarivki in so zradirali neke rove od orkov. Analitiki so mnenja, da Ukrajinci želijo oblikovati klešče okrog Bakmuta. V ta namen so deployali divizjon tankov (30 tankov cca). Zdaj se bodo morali Rusi odločiti, če bodo branili vse to "osvojeno" ali pa bodo to prepustili Ukrajincem, v pričakovanju velike ofenzive. Si predstavljate? Da orke stisnejo Ukrajinci v klešče severno in južno od Bakmuta. Gagali bodo orki ko račke.
Če bodo branili, potem bodo morali vezati velike sile, zdaj je zemlja že bolj suha. Potem bodo vezali sile, ki jih bodo rabili v ofenzivi Ukrajincev. Če pa ne bodo branili, potem pa so zgubili vse, dobesedno vse, kar so osvojili, pa še teren se bo odprl Ukrajincem za močnejši protinapad.
Pričakuje se, da bodo pa sedaj Ukrajinci pritisnili na šibka mesta Rusov tudi drugje. Povsod bo enak razmislek (za Ruse). Ali braniti (ter dovoliti vpad drugje) ali ne braniti in dovoliti, da Ukrajinci odprejo klin. S tem pa tudi tvegajo, da se fronta poruši in jim pridejo Ukrajinci za hrbet.
Pred kakšnim tednom sem zasledil vir, da imajo na voljo:
-RU okrog 600-700 tisoč dobro izurjenih vojakov, UA pa 500-600 pogojno izurjenih.
-RU protizračna ~75% in letalstvo na 90% predvojnih kapacitet, UA protizračne za vzorec, pa še to okrog Kijeva, nekaj še lahka pehotna do 5 ikm dosega, letalstva tudi za vzorec
- podobno velja za težko oborožitev.
V zadnje pol leta naj bi dobili do 200 tankov in do 1000-1800 oklepnih in drugih transporterjev.
Manjka jim pa še vedno streliva.
O št. ne bom razpredal, ker je težko/nemogoče dobiti dobre info.
UA lahko uspe z ofenzivo v omejenem obsegu/območju, če bodo uspeli prikriti kopičenje vojske. Ampak to skrivanje je vprašljivo, tako da bodo RU pripravljeni.
Učite se iz preteklosti, živite v sedanjosti in razmišljajte o prihodnosti.
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mackilla ::
bbbbbb2015 je izjavil:
Ukrajinci so začeli pritiskati pri Zolotarivki in so zradirali neke rove od orkov. Analitiki so mnenja, da Ukrajinci želijo oblikovati klešče okrog Bakmuta. V ta namen so deployali divizjon tankov (30 tankov cca). Zdaj se bodo morali Rusi odločiti, če bodo branili vse to "osvojeno" ali pa bodo to prepustili Ukrajincem, v pričakovanju velike ofenzive. Si predstavljate? Da orke stisnejo Ukrajinci v klešče severno in južno od Bakmuta. Gagali bodo orki ko račke.
Če bodo branili, potem bodo morali vezati velike sile, zdaj je zemlja že bolj suha. Potem bodo vezali sile, ki jih bodo rabili v ofenzivi Ukrajincev. Če pa ne bodo branili, potem pa so zgubili vse, dobesedno vse, kar so osvojili, pa še teren se bo odprl Ukrajincem za močnejši protinapad.
Pričakuje se, da bodo pa sedaj Ukrajinci pritisnili na šibka mesta Rusov tudi drugje. Povsod bo enak razmislek (za Ruse). Ali braniti (ter dovoliti vpad drugje) ali ne braniti in dovoliti, da Ukrajinci odprejo klin. S tem pa tudi tvegajo, da se fronta poruši in jim pridejo Ukrajinci za hrbet.
Pred kakšnim tednom sem zasledil vir, da imajo na voljo:
-RU okrog 600-700 tisoč dobro izurjenih vojakov, UA pa 500-600 pogojno izurjenih.
-RU protizračna ~75% in letalstvo na 90% predvojnih kapacitet, UA protizračne za vzorec, pa še to okrog Kijeva, nekaj še lahka pehotna do 5 ikm dosega, letalstva tudi za vzorec
- podobno velja za težko oborožitev.
V zadnje pol leta naj bi dobili do 200 tankov in do 1000-1800 oklepnih in drugih transporterjev.
Manjka jim pa še vedno streliva.
O št. ne bom razpredal, ker je težko/nemogoče dobiti dobre info.
UA lahko uspe z ofenzivo v omejenem obsegu/območju, če bodo uspeli prikriti kopičenje vojske. Ampak to skrivanje je vprašljivo, tako da bodo RU pripravljeni.
Od kje pa so ti podatki? Če seveda ni skrivnost.
Malidelničar ::
Vojaška in agencijska moč je tam tako centralizirana da je pomoje možna zgolj "vojna" med elito. Kar v praksi pomeni zgolj menjava diktatorja na vrhu vse ostalo pa isto dalje. Nobene spremembe politike ali sprememb za ljudi.
Jaz sem dolgo časa mislil, da bo rezultat te vojne na koncu državljanska vojna v Rusiji sedaj pa nisem več prepričan glede tega.
Znajo Rusi spotoma pohopsati še Belorusijo (do leta 2030 imajo plan za aneksacijo).
Kot praviš vrh v Rusiji je načeloma isti. Verjetno bo vrh utišal Prighožina (čeprav se zdaj zdi močan), Kadyrova pa lahko kadarkoli likvidirajo in nastavijo enega drugega v Čečeniji.
Don't invest like a Joe. Invest like a Simon.
fur80 ::
sparklyslo je izjavil:
RU okrog 600-700 tisoč dobro izurjenih vojakov
Ja seveda, sami specialci....
Prva ekipa:
Malidelničar je izjavil:
Vojaška in agencijska moč je tam tako centralizirana da je pomoje možna zgolj "vojna" med elito. Kar v praksi pomeni zgolj menjava diktatorja na vrhu vse ostalo pa isto dalje. Nobene spremembe politike ali sprememb za ljudi.
Jaz sem dolgo časa mislil, da bo rezultat te vojne na koncu državljanska vojna v Rusiji sedaj pa nisem več prepričan glede tega.
Znajo Rusi spotoma pohopsati še Belorusijo (do leta 2030 imajo plan za aneksacijo).
Kot praviš vrh v Rusiji je načeloma isti. Verjetno bo vrh utišal Prighožina (čeprav se zdaj zdi močan), Kadyrova pa lahko kadarkoli likvidirajo in nastavijo enega drugega v Čečeniji.
Samo res, kako pa kaj Kadirov in pa Čečeni? Ni jih kaj za videti več.
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XsenO ::
Samo res, kako pa kaj Kadirov in pa Čečeni? Ni jih kaj za videti več.
So jih verjetno banali iz tiktoka in so šli domov :D
1 + 1 = 1
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fur80 ::
Kaj veliko vojske verjetno Kadirov nima ali je ni imel. 1 miljon ima Čečenija in okoli 20 000 vojakov, tako, da večina jih je verjetno že pri Alahu in devicah, ostali ranjeni. Verjentno čakajo, da novi fantje malo zrastejo. Je pa zanimivo, da jih ni več v medijih, odkar so grozili, da bodo pobili ljudi v Moskvi, ki protestirajo proti đamiji in da jim je vseeno kdo je njihov nasprotnik .
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Zmajc ::
Kadirovci so vedno bili bolj PR enota kot neka resna vojska, ki se bori. Vem da so jim uporabljali v zaledju za prepečevanje pobega vojakov z fronte. Pa kot neke kvazi "specialce".
Pa v prvih dnevih vojne so Ukrajinci blizu Kijeva baje pobili neke Karirovcem ki so jih poslali ubit Zelenskega.
Pa v prvih dnevih vojne so Ukrajinci blizu Kijeva baje pobili neke Karirovcem ki so jih poslali ubit Zelenskega.
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fur80 ::
Pac-Man ::
To bi znal bi precejšen udarec za rusko propagando.
https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
krucymucy ::
Samo res, kako pa kaj Kadirov in pa Čečeni? Ni jih kaj za videti več.
Kar nekaj Čečenov se bori na strani Ukrajine.
Za njih je to predvsem nadaljevanje boja proti rusom iz čečenske vojne.
V tem vidijo tudi priložnost zase, ko bo ruska federacija začela razpadati in sedaj je čas da pomagajo kolikor lahko.
Kadirov nima neke podpore med ljudstvom, konec koncev je le izdajalec naroda.
Kar se njegove "vojske" tiče so to bolj plačanci ni jih prav veliko ni.
Spet na začetku so videli priložnost promocije, sedaj ko nekako ne gre po načrtih, so se pa umaknili.
fernandogago ::
o0o0o0o0o0 ::
Deputy Prime Minister Hanna Malyar said that Ukrainian forces destroyed a Wagner ammunition storage near Bakhmut.
s1m0n ::
sparklyslo je izjavil:
RU okrog 600-700 tisoč dobro izurjenih vojakov
Ja seveda, sami specialci....
Edini specialci, ki so še Rusom ostali so ti, ki kopljejo grobove pa še teh jim zmanjkuje,,,
fur80 ::
O prišel bo dan, ko bodo Prigozhin in njemu podobni cvilili...
Glory to the Warriors of Ukraine!
Death to the Russian invaders!
https://twitter.com/operativno_ZSU/stat...
Glory to the Warriors of Ukraine!
Death to the Russian invaders!
https://twitter.com/operativno_ZSU/stat...
Pac-Man ::
Poleg Nemtsove hčerke so vtaknili ilegalnega špijona:
https://www.agents.media/gonzalez/
Spanish journalist of Russian origin Pablo Gonzalez, who was detained in Poland on suspicion of espionage in February 2022, was probably an agent sent by Russia’s military intelligence (GRU, which stands for the Main Intelligence Directorate) to spy on Zhanna Nemtsova, daughter of murdered Russian opposition leader Boris Nemtsov, two sources told Agentstvo.
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Pablo Gonzalez (Pavel Rubtsov), a bearer of Russian and Spanish passports, was born in the Soviet Union. In the late 1980s, his mother, the daughter of Spaniards who came to the USSR in the 1930s, returned to Spain, settling in Catalonia, and the son went to the Basque Country. Gonzalez’s father, Alexei Rubtsov, has been a manager at the RBC media outlet since 1999 (which apparently explains Gonzalez’s fear that someone from the RBC might recognize him at the conference).
nit:
https://twitter.com/christogrozev/statu...
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It's also particularly disgusting as they disguised their spy as a "journalist", tricking reputable international organizations into defending this despicable piece of shit - and endangering the lives of *actual* journalists
https://europeanjournalists.org/blog/20...
For spy-watchers, might be interesting that "Pablo Gonzales" is of the new type of illegal spies preferred by the GRU - not completely invented new identities, but slightly tweaked real identities with some legitimate foreign connection. Cheaper to create and easier to maintain.
https://www.agents.media/gonzalez/
Spanish journalist of Russian origin Pablo Gonzalez, who was detained in Poland on suspicion of espionage in February 2022, was probably an agent sent by Russia’s military intelligence (GRU, which stands for the Main Intelligence Directorate) to spy on Zhanna Nemtsova, daughter of murdered Russian opposition leader Boris Nemtsov, two sources told Agentstvo.
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Pablo Gonzalez (Pavel Rubtsov), a bearer of Russian and Spanish passports, was born in the Soviet Union. In the late 1980s, his mother, the daughter of Spaniards who came to the USSR in the 1930s, returned to Spain, settling in Catalonia, and the son went to the Basque Country. Gonzalez’s father, Alexei Rubtsov, has been a manager at the RBC media outlet since 1999 (which apparently explains Gonzalez’s fear that someone from the RBC might recognize him at the conference).
nit:
https://twitter.com/christogrozev/statu...
...
It's also particularly disgusting as they disguised their spy as a "journalist", tricking reputable international organizations into defending this despicable piece of shit - and endangering the lives of *actual* journalists
https://europeanjournalists.org/blog/20...
For spy-watchers, might be interesting that "Pablo Gonzales" is of the new type of illegal spies preferred by the GRU - not completely invented new identities, but slightly tweaked real identities with some legitimate foreign connection. Cheaper to create and easier to maintain.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Rambutan ::
CNN poroča da Rusi zmeraj bolj uspešno motijo HIMARS izstrelke zadnje čase. Res je zadnje čase bolj malo slišati o HIMARSih...
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/05/05/poli...
Russia has been thwarting US-made mobile rocket systems in Ukraine more frequently in recent months, using electronic jammers to throw off its GPS guided targeting system to cause rockets to miss their targets, multiple people briefed on the matter told CNN.
Ukrainian military officials, with the US' help, have had to come up with a variety of different workarounds as it continues to use the High Mobility Artillery Rocket System (HIMARS) which has been perhaps the most revered and feared piece of weaponry in Ukraine's fight.
The medium-range rocket systems were hailed as a game changer in the conflict and have played a key role since the moment they arrived in Ukraine last summer, including in last year's offensive that allowed Ukraine to take back significant swaths of territory from Russia.
But in recent months, the systems have been rendered increasingly less effective by the Russians' intensive blocking, five US, British and Ukrainian sources tell CNN, forcing US and Ukrainian officials to find ways to tweak the HIMARS' software to counter the evolving Russian jamming efforts.
A screengrab taken from video that has circulated on Russian social media purporting to show the moment just before the detonation of a drone and smoke rising from the direction of the Kremlin. CNN is not yet able to establish the veracity of those videos. The attack is alleged to have taken place in the early morning hours Wednesday, at an unspecified time.
What we know about the murky drone attack on the Kremlin - and the questions that remain
"It is a constant cat-and-mouse game" of finding a countermeasure to the jamming, a Pentagon official said, only to then have the Russians counteract that countermeasure. And it is not clear how sustainable that game is in the long term.
With a major Ukrainian counteroffensive expected to start very soon and Ukraine's reliance on HIMARS, solutions are even more of a priority so that Ukrainian troops can make significant headway.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/05/05/poli...
Russia has been thwarting US-made mobile rocket systems in Ukraine more frequently in recent months, using electronic jammers to throw off its GPS guided targeting system to cause rockets to miss their targets, multiple people briefed on the matter told CNN.
Ukrainian military officials, with the US' help, have had to come up with a variety of different workarounds as it continues to use the High Mobility Artillery Rocket System (HIMARS) which has been perhaps the most revered and feared piece of weaponry in Ukraine's fight.
The medium-range rocket systems were hailed as a game changer in the conflict and have played a key role since the moment they arrived in Ukraine last summer, including in last year's offensive that allowed Ukraine to take back significant swaths of territory from Russia.
But in recent months, the systems have been rendered increasingly less effective by the Russians' intensive blocking, five US, British and Ukrainian sources tell CNN, forcing US and Ukrainian officials to find ways to tweak the HIMARS' software to counter the evolving Russian jamming efforts.
A screengrab taken from video that has circulated on Russian social media purporting to show the moment just before the detonation of a drone and smoke rising from the direction of the Kremlin. CNN is not yet able to establish the veracity of those videos. The attack is alleged to have taken place in the early morning hours Wednesday, at an unspecified time.
What we know about the murky drone attack on the Kremlin - and the questions that remain
"It is a constant cat-and-mouse game" of finding a countermeasure to the jamming, a Pentagon official said, only to then have the Russians counteract that countermeasure. And it is not clear how sustainable that game is in the long term.
With a major Ukrainian counteroffensive expected to start very soon and Ukraine's reliance on HIMARS, solutions are even more of a priority so that Ukrainian troops can make significant headway.
Matejjjjj ::
Torej zdaj vemo... Če oz ko se vzpostavi dežnik nad Ukrajino, niti kinžali več ne bodo pomagali. S temi sistemi se da sestreliti tudi leteče bombe... Situacija kot v Izraelu.
Pac-Man ::
Bolgarski državljan, pred leti so mu prepovedali vstop v Rusijo:
https://twitter.com/christogrozev/statu...
Wow, it's a double whammy day. Not only was I arrested in absentia, but I was also declared a "foreign agent" today. (A literal foreigner being a foreign agent? Can I be anything but?).
Anyway, off to the casino.
https://twitter.com/christogrozev/statu...
I got my official letter designating me a Foreign Agent. Says I am designated because I am under "foreign influence" (??). Signed by the "Director for Defense of National Interest from Foreign Influence".
Looks like something out of 1984 but crazier.
https://twitter.com/christogrozev/statu...
Wow, it's a double whammy day. Not only was I arrested in absentia, but I was also declared a "foreign agent" today. (A literal foreigner being a foreign agent? Can I be anything but?).
Anyway, off to the casino.
https://twitter.com/christogrozev/statu...
I got my official letter designating me a Foreign Agent. Says I am designated because I am under "foreign influence" (??). Signed by the "Director for Defense of National Interest from Foreign Influence".
Looks like something out of 1984 but crazier.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
fur80 ::
Torej zdaj vemo... Če oz ko se vzpostavi dežnik nad Ukrajino, niti kinžali več ne bodo pomagali. S temi sistemi se da sestreliti tudi leteče bombe... Situacija kot v Izraelu.
Sem bral, samo ne najdem sedaj, da Ukrajinci in Izraelci razvijajo protizračno za Ukrajino. Po vsem tem je verjetno zadnja možnost sedaj, da Rusi kaj naredijo v Ukrajini, po tem, bodo vrata zaprta.
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fur80 ::
CNN poroča da Rusi zmeraj bolj uspešno motijo HIMARS izstrelke zadnje čase. Res je zadnje čase bolj malo slišati o HIMARSih...
Zlobni jeziki bi rekli, da čakajo za ofenzivo in tik preden bo, bo zelo pokalo. ;)
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redtech ::
Kadirovci so vedno bili bolj PR enota kot neka resna vojska, ki se bori. Vem da so jim uporabljali v zaledju za prepečevanje pobega vojakov z fronte. Pa kot neke kvazi "specialce".
Pa v prvih dnevih vojne so Ukrajinci blizu Kijeva baje pobili neke Karirovcem ki so jih poslali ubit Zelenskega.
Mhm Mariupol, Azovstal srce UA gospodarstva,
trofeja pobrana, uživajo dopust
Pac-Man ::
Polminutni video s s podnapisi
https://twitter.com/NatalkaKyiv/status/...
This is a great example of how for 8 years fake Russian videos from Donbas were made to prepare the Russian public for the full-scale invasion of Ukraine.
The woman in the video is Maria Katasonova. Take a moment to google her.
https://twitter.com/NatalkaKyiv/status/...
This is a great example of how for 8 years fake Russian videos from Donbas were made to prepare the Russian public for the full-scale invasion of Ukraine.
The woman in the video is Maria Katasonova. Take a moment to google her.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
bbbbbb2015 ::
Še stari Prigozhin z podnapisi. Ali mu je res odbilo, so Ukrajinci res pred tem, da jih zakoličijo, ali je to kaka finta podmukla za Ukrajince, predvsem za ljudi mislim, ki bodo sedaj pričakovali osvoboditev Bakhmuta.
Pa dosti ma tega. Nekaj so zaslužili sicer, samo ogromno so jih poslali kar umret. Od zapornikov, do rekrutov. Mislim, da mu Moskoviti ne dovolijo več, da nabira borce po zaporih. Skoraj vsi so umrli. Čeprav so zaporniki stigmatizirani v Rusiji, pa je že bila zgodba o mami enega v tisku, kjer se je kar znašel v Ukrajini in kar tam nekje pri Bakmutu, potem pa je v dnevu izginila sled za njim in nihče ne ve, kje (bi naj bil/umrl).
Orki so si nabrali brezveznih žrtev enormno, ker so se fiksirali na neko mesto.
Njemu je Afrika po moje prinašala več denarja, manj mrtvih. Sicer pa... Prigožin ni nek biser, saj sploh vojak in strateg ni.
Poleg tega Prigožin sluti, da bo morda treba bežati. Tako kot prej, bodo regularni vojaki najprej sebe umaknili, wagnerjevci pa po srbsko "kuda koji mili moji". Nenazadnje noče s porazom (eventuelnim!) imeti nič. To je sicer zlovešča prerokba za orke.
Mogoče pa mu niso plačali nagrade. Govor je bil, da če osvojijo Bakmut, dobijo nagrado. Ker vmes je Prigožin nekaj nakladal, da so Bakmut "tehnično osvojili" - to je bilo preden so mu cuno wagnerjevsko sred mesta sesuli v prah.
Videli bomo po 10.5., ko je rekel, da bodo spakirali.
Matejjjjj ::
Torej zdaj vemo... Če oz ko se vzpostavi dežnik nad Ukrajino, niti kinžali več ne bodo pomagali. S temi sistemi se da sestreliti tudi leteče bombe... Situacija kot v Izraelu.
Sem bral, samo ne najdem sedaj, da Ukrajinci in Izraelci razvijajo protizračno za Ukrajino. Po vsem tem je verjetno zadnja možnost sedaj, da Rusi kaj naredijo v Ukrajini, po tem, bodo vrata zaprta.
Kja šele THAAD ali SM-2
Rambutan ::
Evo, zgleda so Čečeni slišali da jih opravljate, pa so poskrbeli še za en preobrat v Prigožinovi drami,
se ponujajo za nadomestit Wagnerje
Chechen troops will replace Wagner PMC units in Bakhmut, says Ramazan Kadyrov.
Here's the full statement from Kadyrov:
I appeal to the Minister of Defense, Sergey Shoygu, the Chief of General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces, and the founder of the PMC "Wagner".
I, like everyone not indifferent to the fate of our country, hate to hear the latest statements by Yevgeny Viktorovich, and it is doubly unpleasant that the leadership of the Russian Ministry of Defense does not comment or does not meet with the leadership of the "Wagner" PMC to make any decision or clarification. After all, Prigozhin deserves respect for the invaluable contribution of the Wagnerians to the liberation of the cities of Donbass.
If there is a shortage, then it is necessary to explain and show, on the basis of which the commanders will at least adjust the further tactics of the Wagner units, without relying on artillery.
I recall the experience of Chechen units in Mariupol. When we needed five tanks from the Ministry of Defense to support the infantry, we could only be allocated one, whose crew left the vehicle in the first battle. The tankers then had to be reassured, tuned up for combat, and put back in the vehicle so that they could cover at least one position of the Azov Satanists with salvos. There were problems with other equipment as well. We have not been able to replace 30 artillery cannons since the beginning of the SMO. I personally called Moscow and talked to commanders and superiors. In a month, the problem was solved. Yes, it did not work on the first call. But our units did not record the clips either; they did not give the enemy pleasant informational victory.
... By the way, it is not right to film the bodies of killed comrades-in-arms for the sake of public outcry is wrong.Let us never do that.
For example, the area of responsibility of Apta Alaudinov, my dear brother, commander of special forces "AKHMAT" and deputy commander of the 2nd army corps of the Russian Armed Forces, includes more than a hundred kilometers of the line of contact with the enemy. Not a day goes by that he does not have problems. But not once has Apty Aronovich announced it publicly over the Internet, but only through internal communication with the leadership. I should note that, with rare exceptions, the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff were always accommodating and helpful to Chechen units. And there are always misunderstandings in ordinary civilian life, not to mention the war, where there is always a shortage of ammunition! I do hope my appeal will be heeded by Sergey Kuzugetovich and that an order will be given to the General Staff to go there and sort it out. It is the only correct way out of the situation, in a soldier's way.
Chechen units fought side by side with the Wagnerians in the most difficult areas in Popasna, Severodonetsk, Lisichansk, and other settlements in Donbass.Together, they fulfilled their sacred duty to the motherland without distinction of nationality or faith. The interests of the state and the security of the country must come first. And when the SMO is over, I would like all of us--every fighter, every commander, every Russian patriot--to be the winners. Together.
Yes, if the older brother Prigozhin and the Wagner leave, the General Staff will lose an experienced combat unit, and the younger brother Kadyrov and the Akhmat will take his place in Artemovsk. If the scenario nevertheless plays out that way, our fighters are already ready to move in and occupy the city. It's a matter of hours. But we would like to take the remaining two kilometers of the city, not at the cost of soldiers' lives but as a result of the mutual understanding, support, and determination of the commanders and fighters to carry out the order of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief of Russia, Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin.
se ponujajo za nadomestit Wagnerje
Chechen troops will replace Wagner PMC units in Bakhmut, says Ramazan Kadyrov.
Here's the full statement from Kadyrov:
I appeal to the Minister of Defense, Sergey Shoygu, the Chief of General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces, and the founder of the PMC "Wagner".
I, like everyone not indifferent to the fate of our country, hate to hear the latest statements by Yevgeny Viktorovich, and it is doubly unpleasant that the leadership of the Russian Ministry of Defense does not comment or does not meet with the leadership of the "Wagner" PMC to make any decision or clarification. After all, Prigozhin deserves respect for the invaluable contribution of the Wagnerians to the liberation of the cities of Donbass.
If there is a shortage, then it is necessary to explain and show, on the basis of which the commanders will at least adjust the further tactics of the Wagner units, without relying on artillery.
I recall the experience of Chechen units in Mariupol. When we needed five tanks from the Ministry of Defense to support the infantry, we could only be allocated one, whose crew left the vehicle in the first battle. The tankers then had to be reassured, tuned up for combat, and put back in the vehicle so that they could cover at least one position of the Azov Satanists with salvos. There were problems with other equipment as well. We have not been able to replace 30 artillery cannons since the beginning of the SMO. I personally called Moscow and talked to commanders and superiors. In a month, the problem was solved. Yes, it did not work on the first call. But our units did not record the clips either; they did not give the enemy pleasant informational victory.
... By the way, it is not right to film the bodies of killed comrades-in-arms for the sake of public outcry is wrong.Let us never do that.
For example, the area of responsibility of Apta Alaudinov, my dear brother, commander of special forces "AKHMAT" and deputy commander of the 2nd army corps of the Russian Armed Forces, includes more than a hundred kilometers of the line of contact with the enemy. Not a day goes by that he does not have problems. But not once has Apty Aronovich announced it publicly over the Internet, but only through internal communication with the leadership. I should note that, with rare exceptions, the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff were always accommodating and helpful to Chechen units. And there are always misunderstandings in ordinary civilian life, not to mention the war, where there is always a shortage of ammunition! I do hope my appeal will be heeded by Sergey Kuzugetovich and that an order will be given to the General Staff to go there and sort it out. It is the only correct way out of the situation, in a soldier's way.
Chechen units fought side by side with the Wagnerians in the most difficult areas in Popasna, Severodonetsk, Lisichansk, and other settlements in Donbass.Together, they fulfilled their sacred duty to the motherland without distinction of nationality or faith. The interests of the state and the security of the country must come first. And when the SMO is over, I would like all of us--every fighter, every commander, every Russian patriot--to be the winners. Together.
Yes, if the older brother Prigozhin and the Wagner leave, the General Staff will lose an experienced combat unit, and the younger brother Kadyrov and the Akhmat will take his place in Artemovsk. If the scenario nevertheless plays out that way, our fighters are already ready to move in and occupy the city. It's a matter of hours. But we would like to take the remaining two kilometers of the city, not at the cost of soldiers' lives but as a result of the mutual understanding, support, and determination of the commanders and fighters to carry out the order of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief of Russia, Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin.
Pac-Man ::
Torej zdaj vemo... Če oz ko se vzpostavi dežnik nad Ukrajino, niti kinžali več ne bodo pomagali. S temi sistemi se da sestreliti tudi leteče bombe... Situacija kot v Izraelu.
Problem je, da je Ukrajina velikanska in tega enostavno ne moreš v popolnosti pokrit. Večja od Francije, samo ekskluzijska cona okrog Černobila je večja od Slovenije.
Pokrili bodo glavna mesta, koncentracije sil na fronti in morda še bolj verjetne poti raket.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Lesoto ::
https://siol.net/novice/svet/ameriski-o...
18.50 Vladimir Putin naj bi si premislil glede končnega cilja invazije
Prvotni cilj Rusije in Vladimirja Putina je zdaj preprečitev ukrajinske pridružitve zvezi Nato in ne več konsolidacija nadzora v štirih okupiranih ukrajinskih regijah, je po poročanju ameriških medijev v četrtek razkrila direktorica obveščevalnih dejavnosti v administraciji predsednika ZDA Joeja Bidna Avril Haines.
Hainesova, ki je pričala pred senatnim komitejem za nadzor na oboroženimi silami ZDA, je dodala, da bi lahko Putin s tovrstnim prilagajanjem ciljev in na podlagi ozemlja Ukrajine, ki ga trenutno trdno obvladujejo ruske okupacijske sile, razglasil vsaj delno oziroma začasno zmago v Ukrajini oziroma uspeh tako imenovane posebne vojaške operacije.
Po besedah Hainesove je ruska vojska na bojišču v Ukrajini za nameček začela zavzemati izrazito obrambne položaje, v aprilu pa je osvojila manj ozemlja kot prejšnje tri mesece skupaj.
18.50 Vladimir Putin naj bi si premislil glede končnega cilja invazije
Prvotni cilj Rusije in Vladimirja Putina je zdaj preprečitev ukrajinske pridružitve zvezi Nato in ne več konsolidacija nadzora v štirih okupiranih ukrajinskih regijah, je po poročanju ameriških medijev v četrtek razkrila direktorica obveščevalnih dejavnosti v administraciji predsednika ZDA Joeja Bidna Avril Haines.
Hainesova, ki je pričala pred senatnim komitejem za nadzor na oboroženimi silami ZDA, je dodala, da bi lahko Putin s tovrstnim prilagajanjem ciljev in na podlagi ozemlja Ukrajine, ki ga trenutno trdno obvladujejo ruske okupacijske sile, razglasil vsaj delno oziroma začasno zmago v Ukrajini oziroma uspeh tako imenovane posebne vojaške operacije.
Po besedah Hainesove je ruska vojska na bojišču v Ukrajini za nameček začela zavzemati izrazito obrambne položaje, v aprilu pa je osvojila manj ozemlja kot prejšnje tri mesece skupaj.
mojsterleo ::
Noro kako hitro se stvari odvijajo. Pol dneva si odsoten, pa se vmes zgodi sto stvari 
. Sploh nimaš več časa brat in komentirat.
Kot prvo sem se nasmejal ko so Ukrajinci sesuli prvi Kinžal. Še en Ruski overhypan balon ki je počil.
Pretep Ruskih in Ukrajinskih predstavnikov v Turčiji.
Najbolj pa tale: namesto Wagnerja bodo pozicije v Bahmutu 10.5. zasedli Kadirovci (Čečeni). A lahko prosim kokice? Noro je, bolj kot se približuje UA ofenziva bolj je vse napeto kot gumica. Zdi se mi da so Rusi ful zaskrbljeni glede ofenzive, če Wagnerju niti streliva niso več hotli dobavljati to pomeni da ga hranijo za obrambo.
. Sploh nimaš več časa brat in komentirat.Kot prvo sem se nasmejal ko so Ukrajinci sesuli prvi Kinžal. Še en Ruski overhypan balon ki je počil.
Pretep Ruskih in Ukrajinskih predstavnikov v Turčiji.
Najbolj pa tale: namesto Wagnerja bodo pozicije v Bahmutu 10.5. zasedli Kadirovci (Čečeni). A lahko prosim kokice? Noro je, bolj kot se približuje UA ofenziva bolj je vse napeto kot gumica. Zdi se mi da so Rusi ful zaskrbljeni glede ofenzive, če Wagnerju niti streliva niso več hotli dobavljati to pomeni da ga hranijo za obrambo.
Rambutan ::
Ameriški piloti pesimistično o možnostih F-16 v Ukrajini:
https://www.businessinsider.com/former-...
Ukrainian officials have long pressed their Western military backers to send them modern fighter jets, arguing Kyiv needs the airpower to best the invading Russian forces. While some in the West agree, others say fighter aircraft like the ones Ukraine wants wouldn't stand a chance in the current threat environment.
There have been repeated requests for the delivery of American-made F-16s, leading to debates about how effective the fourth-generation planes would be in the skies. One former F-16 pilot told Insider he wouldn't want to fly missions over Ukraine right now, saying that the aircraft can't outmatch Russia's air-defense systems.
Fourth-generation fighters "have no business in a modern-day battlefield," John Venable, a 25-year veteran of the US Air Force, told Insider in a recent interview.
But other air-warfare experts and officials have said that providing F-16s to Ukraine would be too much of a heavy lift for Kyiv's military, arguing that in addition to the demands of establishing key maintenance and support facilities, these fighter jets would struggle to survive in the present threat environment and provide little impact on the grinding conflict.
As Insider previously reported, Gen. James Hecker, the commander of US Air Forces in Europe, said earlier this year that jets just aren't needed right now. "The Russian, as well as the Ukrainian success in integrated air and missile defense, have made much of those aircraft worthless," he added.
Fourth- and fourth-plus-generation fighter jets — like the F-16 — that lack stealth features are "completely outmatched in high-threat environments" because of advanced air-defense systems like Russia's S-400, argued Venable, a veteran and senior research fellow for defense policy at The Heritage Foundation, a Washington-based think tank.
In a commentary published on the think tank's website last month, Venable wrote that the F-16 was not suited for Ukraine's air force for several reasons, including that the S-400 could outsmart the F-16's targeting systems and that it could target the fighter jets before they're in range to fire weapons like Small Diameter Bombs.
"Giving Ukraine more MiG-29s will not help the battlefield. And even if we gave them modern F-16s — I would say more modern F-16s — it's not going to change or influence the battlefield in a year, much less in time for a spring offensive," he told Insider in an interview this week, referring to Ukraine's much-anticipated counteroffensive.
https://www.businessinsider.com/former-...
Ukrainian officials have long pressed their Western military backers to send them modern fighter jets, arguing Kyiv needs the airpower to best the invading Russian forces. While some in the West agree, others say fighter aircraft like the ones Ukraine wants wouldn't stand a chance in the current threat environment.
There have been repeated requests for the delivery of American-made F-16s, leading to debates about how effective the fourth-generation planes would be in the skies. One former F-16 pilot told Insider he wouldn't want to fly missions over Ukraine right now, saying that the aircraft can't outmatch Russia's air-defense systems.
Fourth-generation fighters "have no business in a modern-day battlefield," John Venable, a 25-year veteran of the US Air Force, told Insider in a recent interview.
But other air-warfare experts and officials have said that providing F-16s to Ukraine would be too much of a heavy lift for Kyiv's military, arguing that in addition to the demands of establishing key maintenance and support facilities, these fighter jets would struggle to survive in the present threat environment and provide little impact on the grinding conflict.
As Insider previously reported, Gen. James Hecker, the commander of US Air Forces in Europe, said earlier this year that jets just aren't needed right now. "The Russian, as well as the Ukrainian success in integrated air and missile defense, have made much of those aircraft worthless," he added.
Fourth- and fourth-plus-generation fighter jets — like the F-16 — that lack stealth features are "completely outmatched in high-threat environments" because of advanced air-defense systems like Russia's S-400, argued Venable, a veteran and senior research fellow for defense policy at The Heritage Foundation, a Washington-based think tank.
In a commentary published on the think tank's website last month, Venable wrote that the F-16 was not suited for Ukraine's air force for several reasons, including that the S-400 could outsmart the F-16's targeting systems and that it could target the fighter jets before they're in range to fire weapons like Small Diameter Bombs.
"Giving Ukraine more MiG-29s will not help the battlefield. And even if we gave them modern F-16s — I would say more modern F-16s — it's not going to change or influence the battlefield in a year, much less in time for a spring offensive," he told Insider in an interview this week, referring to Ukraine's much-anticipated counteroffensive.